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Drift Reality 04-28-2008 10:37 PM

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I think we should trade Santana Moss for Jared Allen and Antwan Randle El for Kevin Williams. Maybe pick-up Bob Sanders after the June 1 cuts.

Discuss!

Schneed10 04-28-2008 10:39 PM

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I'd guess we shed Mathis and either Mix or Thrash. But not around June 1, I think Zorn will take them to camp and make the decision there.

That's the thing with our own players. Zorn's just getting used to them. Hell, he's having them wear nametags at minicamp this weeked. He's going to need time to evaluate them, and since there is no pressure from a cap perspective to make moves now or on June 1, I think he'll take as many guys as he can into training camp and evaluate them as long as possible before making the cuts in August.

Stuck in TX 04-28-2008 10:40 PM

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[QUOTE=Drift Reality;445577]I think we should trade Santana Moss for Jared Allen and Antwan Randle El for Kevin Williams. Maybe pick-up Bob Sanders after the June 1 cuts.

Discuss![/QUOTE]

The only thing to discuss is that this is not Madden and that we will not be trading so drastically b/c we have a good team already. I really hope you are joking because you do not sound very intelligent.

Schneed10 04-28-2008 10:45 PM

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[quote=Stuck in TX;445579]The only thing to discuss is that this is not Madden and that we will not be trading so drastically b/c we have a good team already. I really hope you are joking because you do not sound very intelligent.[/quote]

Your post get the :doh: face.

Stuck in TX 04-28-2008 10:46 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;445583]Your post get the :doh: face.[/QUOTE]

I get those alot dont I?

Schneed10 04-28-2008 10:55 PM

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[quote=Stuck in TX;445585]I get those alot dont I?[/quote]

You just need a better sarcasm detector, that's all.

redskinsfanatic 04-29-2008 06:31 AM

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i'd rather see cartwright leave before thrash.it would'nt surprise me to see sellers get cut too.did'nt zorn just recently sign another fullback???

SkinsFanSince91 04-29-2008 01:48 PM

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;445572]Well I think there has been further misunderstanding. Sure players will be cut after the draft. And still more leading up to June 1. But any players of consequence? Anybody that could do anything more for us than add a training camp body?

I assumed that if you started a thread about it, you'd want to know if we could acquire anybody to help us. I'd say no.

When GTripp and I said nobody gets cut, we meant the figurative nobody. Nobody gets cut from teams around this time of year anymore, unless they're a nobody.[/QUOTE]

Point taken.

cochise 04-29-2008 03:30 PM

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I thought Daniels did a decent job of stuffing the run since the skins defense did improve the past year in that catagory.

Dirtbag59 04-29-2008 03:55 PM

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My friend went crazy this weekend when he found out Shawn Alexander got released. He's like "WHAT? The Falcons better sign him. I mean he's better then Michael Turner." I then mentioned a few other guys who fell from grace and now he's covinced that NFL GM's are all idiots (which is part true but still). Anyway long story short he's going to make a team with Jervon Kearse, Shawn Alexander, Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn, and Patrick Keaney (somehow he got mixed up in all this).

Stuck in TX 05-02-2008 08:38 AM

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[QUOTE=redskinsfanatic;445659]i'd rather see cartwright leave before thrash.it would'nt surprise me to see sellers get cut too.did'nt zorn just recently sign another fullback???[/QUOTE]

huh!!??!!?? Sellers will not be cut. period. He is a Pro Bowl snubbed FB who is a beast and an asset in many more ways than one. Zorn signed another fullback because if Sellers breaks one of his 200 pound legs we will have a backup. I can almost gaurantee that the other FB's will end up on the practice squad. Cartwright is our #3 RB and a great special teamer, along with Thrash. I would hate to see Thrash go and if he does get cut, I can see him retiring and working on an NFL player's comittee full time.

over the mountain 05-02-2008 03:29 PM

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[quote=artyK75;445434][B]Daniels should get cut cuz he has not ever produced a great game for us as a redskin[/B] They should pick up Dixon from Hampton im sure he will be able to get more sacks then Daniels had as a redskin. Randle EL has not done anything that special for us his punt returns are horrible he played alot better when he played for the steelers I think all he saw was the money[/quote]

while daniels is not the most gifted player around he holds his space on the D line (not getting pushed back or manhandled too much) and i consider him one of the locker room leaders from reading the WP articles over the past few years were he seems to be one of the few who speak up when some things need to be said. we dont have many vocal locker room leaders, fletcher is a quite dude (new to the team so you dont say much early) but i remember reading how he spoke up during halftime last year and everybody listened, the players after the game said thats what they needed.

if daniels tried an outside rush move like carter does everytime we would be screwed.

QUESTION: am i right or wrong for thinking that teams ran to carter's side more b/c they knew he would most likely try and go outside of the tackle opening up a running lane?

doman29@hotmail.com 05-02-2008 09:30 PM

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Do any of you see any good DE or CB or Safetys getting cut?
I wish we could have gotten Lito. Tell me would u try to move Betts to Detroit?
That is the only player on the Roster that im not at all sold on he hasFumblitis and I have no clue why Joe Gibbs stuck by him. Portis is the man and should be the man on this team until he retires

GTripp0012 05-02-2008 10:50 PM

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[quote=over the mountain;446529]QUESTION: am i right or wrong for thinking that teams ran to carter's side more b/c they knew he would most likely try and go outside of the tackle opening up a running lane?[/quote]You are right, pretty much, but you should also note that teams were largely unsuccessful when they ran at Carter last year (but not in 2006, back in the highway 99 days).

Where teams gashed us last year in the run was between the tackles. The difference was London Fletcher, not Carter (although Carter deserves a bit of credit). When teams run outside, it's nearly impossible to block Fletch with an interior player. He's too quick. Some teams got slot receivers on him, but largely, it was a futile excercise to run outside on the Redskins last year.

Where teams were incredibly successful was in heading up the gut. You can get your fullback on LF if you go right at him, and then Rocky--often the unblocked man, did not have the play recognition skills to close the gap.

Rocky should improve in that aspect this year...but Fletcher is going to start losing his quickness now, and it's not going to take very long until he's a step slow at MLB instead of a step fast. That is a good reason that it is critical that Daniels gets replaced by a player who is even better against the run than he is.

GTripp0012 05-02-2008 10:52 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;445803]My friend went crazy this weekend when he found out Shawn Alexander got released. He's like "WHAT? The Falcons better sign him. I mean he's better then Michael Turner." I then mentioned a few other guys who fell from grace and now he's covinced that NFL GM's are all idiots (which is part true but still). Anyway long story short he's going to make a team with Jervon Kearse, Shawn Alexander, Rod Coleman, Alge Crumpler, Warrick Dunn, and Patrick Keaney (somehow he got mixed up in all this).[/quote]Meh. He could win six games with that team and have the lowest payroll in the league.

Eight maybe if he gets Leftwich at quaterback. :D

I guess its better than the Raiders who are paying 170 million in salary for 8 wins.

rugged d 05-03-2008 08:08 AM

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i think thrash and broughton will get cut

Rajmahal33 05-03-2008 09:47 AM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;446609]You are right, pretty much, but you should also note that teams were largely unsuccessful when they ran at Carter last year (but not in 2006, back in the highway 99 days).

Where teams gashed us last year in the run was between the tackles. The difference was London Fletcher, not Carter (although Carter deserves a bit of credit). When teams run outside, it's nearly impossible to block Fletch with an interior player. He's too quick. Some teams got slot receivers on him, but largely, it was a futile excercise to run outside on the Redskins last year.

Where teams were incredibly successful was in heading up the gut. You can get your fullback on LF if you go right at him, and then Rocky--often the unblocked man, did not have the play recognition skills to close the gap.

Rocky should improve in that aspect this year...[B]but Fletcher is going to start losing his quickness now, and it's not going to take very long until he's a step slow at MLB instead of a step fast. [/B]That is a good reason that it is critical that Daniels gets replaced by a player who is even better against the run than he is.[/QUOTE]

<insert BLADES after this season then>

doman29@hotmail.com 05-04-2008 05:49 PM

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I think Tyler Ecker will get cut since we have the 2nd best tight end. I wouldn't be opposed to picking up Leftwich

GTripp0012 05-04-2008 05:51 PM

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Ecker has a good shot at Yoder's spot.

Cowell 05-04-2008 07:14 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;446726]Ecker has a good shot at Yoder's spot.[/QUOTE]

For the 3rd tight end.

doman29@hotmail.com 05-04-2008 09:37 PM

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They should get rid of Khary Campbell and bring back Lemar Marshall,Todd Yoder and bring in Lavar Arrington for a Camp invite and see if he can make the club

SeanTaylor21 05-04-2008 09:40 PM

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[QUOTE=doman29@hotmail.com;446763]They should get rid of Khary Campbell and bring back Lemar Marshall,Todd Yoder and bring in Lavar Arrington for a Camp invite and see if he can make the club[/QUOTE]

Your kidding right, Khary Campbell has been a standout on special teams, and wasn't too bad when he filled in momentarily for Rock McIntosh, bringing in Lavar wouldn't be such a bad idea, maybe he still has some gas in the tank, he would bring some veteran experience, also I am pretty sure that during Sean Taylor's funeral, that he connected with guys from the team like CP, and Santana.

doman29@hotmail.com 05-04-2008 09:43 PM

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Yes IM TRULY hoping they give Lavar a camp invite to see if he could still play and make the team! IM ALL FOR IT!Lemar Marshall was not a bad LB or maybe even bring back Trotter for vet minimum or a 2year deal

SeanTaylor21 05-04-2008 09:44 PM

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[QUOTE=doman29@hotmail.com;446766]Yes IM TRULY hoping they give Lavar a camp invite to see if he could still play and make the team! IM ALL FOR IT!Lemar Marshall was not a bad LB or maybe even bring back Trotter for vet minimum or a 2year deal[/QUOTE]

Bring in all those guys, all I was saying was that we shouldn't think about cutting Khary Campbell.

doman29@hotmail.com 05-05-2008 11:40 PM

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Does Anybody Know If Pierce Will Be A Free Agent Next Year? We Should Cut Betts And Have Alexander As Our 2 Rb

doman29@hotmail.com 05-05-2008 11:41 PM

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Does Anybody Have A Link To What Guys Are Still Free Agents?

doman29@hotmail.com 05-06-2008 07:47 PM

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Do any of you guys in here run a fantasy football league that cost money?

doman29@hotmail.com 05-06-2008 09:27 PM

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Trade Betts To Detroit Pick Up Shaun Alexander Or Kevin Jones.
Cut Ryan Bochetti . I Wish Goof Ball Gibbs Would Have Never Let Ryan Clark Leave. Gibbs And Spurrier Messed This Team Up They Traded For Useless Players And Draft Picks.brandon Lloyd, Archueletta Meanwhile Gibbs Cut Darnarien Mccants Who Was A Tall Rec

doman29@hotmail.com 05-06-2008 09:29 PM

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I Still Think We Should Have Stayed With Marty Schottenhimer As Coach. He Would Have Had A Better Record Then Gibbs Got Us Look What Schott Did For The Chargers!

Dirtbag59 05-07-2008 02:13 PM

Re: Who Gets Cut After June 1/Salary Cap Day?!
 
[quote=doman29@hotmail.com;446766]Yes IM TRULY hoping they give Lavar a camp invite to see if he could still play and make the team! IM ALL FOR IT!Lemar Marshall was not a bad LB or maybe even bring back Trotter for vet minimum or a 2year deal[/quote]

NO MADDEN FOR YOU!!! Come back 1 year.

SmootSmack 05-07-2008 03:20 PM

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[QUOTE=doman29@hotmail.com;447061]I Still Think We Should Have Stayed With Marty Schottenhimer As Coach. He Would Have Had A Better Record Then Gibbs Got Us Look What Schott Did For The Chargers![/QUOTE]

Well, I like Schottenheimer but...in five years he got the Chargers to the playoffs twice where they lost in their first game each time (and each time I believe was at home). On the other hand, Gibbs got the Redskins twice in four years and was 1-2 in the playoffs (with the win coming on the road)

So...it's sort of a wash in that regard

skinsfan69 05-07-2008 11:55 PM

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[quote=doman29@hotmail.com;446763]They should get rid of Khary Campbell and bring back Lemar Marshall,Todd Yoder and bring in Lavar Arrington for a Camp invite and see if he can make the club[/quote]

C'mon. Put down the crack pipe.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 05-08-2008 12:05 AM

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doman,

PlEaSe sTop CaPitAlizInG tHe fIRst leTteR oF EveRy WorD. It'S tOuGh to ReAd yoUr PoSts wHen ThEY LoOk liKe tHiS.

That Guy 05-08-2008 01:05 AM

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[quote=SkinsFanSince91;445247]Thats not true.

I dont feel like getting into it, but the NFL set a date to give a break to teams taht cut players before a certain date in June.

We took advantage of that when we let Jeremiah Trotter and his huge contract go. Look it up.[/quote]

that changed a couple years ago. 2 players per year can be counted as post june 1 cuts even if they're released right after the season ends. player were tired of hitting the market after all the money was gone.

That Guy 05-08-2008 01:07 AM

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way to spam the board and ruin the thread doman :(.


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