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Ade Jimoh Fan Club 09-02-2008 12:19 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
Frankly, I'm more worried about Reed Doughty. In the Panther's game, every single big play had his fingerprints all over it in terms of blown coverage and missed tackles. We need someone to step up at Safety or else that's where the offenses are going to go.

T-Vo 09-02-2008 01:52 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
He's only a rookie, I'm pretty sure they didn't draft him with thoughts of him starting this year. Nickle or Dime package maybe and definitley on Special Teams

celts32 09-02-2008 01:58 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
They obviously kept him becasue he was a 4th round pick and they are not going to give up on him over a few bad preseason games. Hopefully they can stay healthy back there and not use him until he's coached up some more.

I don't quite understand the hatred of this kid...he has not cost us any real games yet. Preseason games are practice...give him some time before you write off his entire career.

MTK 09-02-2008 02:09 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=celts32;470508]They obviously kept him becasue he was a 4th round pick and they are not going to give up on him over a few bad preseason games. Hopefully they can stay healthy back there and not use him until he's coached up some more.

[B]I don't quite understand the hatred of this kid...he has not cost us any real games yet. Preseason games are practice...give him some time before you write off his entire career[/B].[/quote]

Patience is something that nobody seems to have. Thankfully it's the coaches that call the shots and not the fans.

celts32 09-02-2008 02:56 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;470515]Patience is something that nobody seems to have. Thankfully it's the coaches that call the shots and not the fans.[/quote]

That's for sure. I have not seen hating on a player like this since Archuletta...but at least Arch was a veteran who was paid a lot of money and cost us real games. This is a 4th round pick who was not given a big contract and has never taken a meaningful snap. It's not like they gave him the starting job...all they did is keep him on the roster.

skinsnut 09-02-2008 03:18 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=celts32;470538]That's for sure. I have not seen hating on a player like this since Archuletta...but at least Arch was a veteran who was paid a lot of money and cost us real games. This is a 4th round pick who was not given a big contract and has never taken a meaningful snap. It's not like they gave him the starting job...all they did is keep him on the roster.[/quote]

Saying someone is not qualified to make an NFL roster does not make you a "hater"....especially if you are a fan of the team pulling for the guy to succeed.
It is just an objective opinion based off of a ton of film.

I would understand keeping him on the practice squad.
The reality is the team decided they needed 5 CB's and he beat out the weak competition.

If you are comparing Tryon's performance to others, few would argue that he performed better than some other cuts such as Mason and McMullen.

I think we all expected a mid round corner to not get torched so frequently.
We all understand that he is a long term project and that corners need to be tested on an island...but long term projects should initially be on the practice squad, not be called into action on game day if there is an injury.

The reality is Tryon, Chris Wilson made the team and not Mason or McMullen.
Why not use the practice squad and keep all 4?

SmootSmack 09-02-2008 03:36 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I'm starting to think maybe a new thread is needed specifically to explain why McMullen cannot be placed on the practice squad, becuase too many people aren't getting it.

TheMalcolmConnection 09-02-2008 03:41 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
Also, let's remember that Torrence needed some time to develop as well.

dmvskinzfan08 09-02-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I do think Torrence looked alot better this year.

McMullen can't be placed on the practice squad because he actually has played in games or was on a active roster for a whole season..(or something like that)..am I correct?

dmvskinzfan08 09-02-2008 04:30 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
Got it somewhat right..had to google it to be sure

[url=http://ozoneshadow.wordpress.com/2007/08/20/practice-squad-eligibility/]Practice Squad Eligibility? «[/url]

JLee9718 09-02-2008 04:36 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I would rather have kept Matteral Richardson than Tryon.

MTK 09-02-2008 04:37 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=JLee9718;470584]I would rather have kept Matteral Richardson than Tryon.[/quote]


We did, he's on the practice squad.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 09-02-2008 05:03 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=JLee9718;470584]I would rather have kept Matteral Richardson than Tryon.[/quote]

I don't know who is better. Keep in mind that the coaches saw Richardson and Tryon a LOT more than we did. I'm willing to give the coaches the benefit of the doubt on this one.

celts32 09-02-2008 10:36 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=skinsnut;470546]Saying someone is not qualified to make an NFL roster does not make you a "hater"....especially if you are a fan of the team pulling for the guy to succeed.
It is just an objective opinion based off of a ton of film.

I would understand keeping him on the practice squad.
The reality is the team decided they needed 5 CB's and he beat out the weak competition.

If you are comparing Tryon's performance to others, few would argue that he performed better than some other cuts such as Mason and McMullen.

I think we all expected a mid round corner to not get torched so frequently.
We all understand that he is a long term project and that corners need to be tested on an island...but long term projects should initially be on the practice squad, not be called into action on game day if there is an injury.

The reality is Tryon, Chris Wilson made the team and not Mason or McMullen.
Why not use the practice squad and keep all 4?[/quote]

They probably felt that Tryon would have been claimed if he was put on the practice squad. Even though he was bad in the games he was still a pretty highly ranked prospect and anyone who had him on thier draft board may have claimed him.

PennSkinsFan 09-03-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
We kept Tryon because it would have been embarrassing to cut him taking him as a long shot in the 4th round. Fact is, Tryon was awful, he looked lost,and Matteral Richardson played better than he did. This was the one roster spot that was really just a poor move.

CRedskinsRule 09-03-2008 11:39 AM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
Here is an excellent Q&A with Scott Campbell about the roster cuts and the thoughts behind them:
[url=http://theredskinsblog.com/2008/09/03/wednesday-september-3-talking-cuts-with-scott-campbell/#comment-2260]Wednesday, September 3: Talking Cuts With Scott Campbell « The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins[/url]

MTK 09-03-2008 11:41 AM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;470866]Here is an excellent Q&A with Scott Campbell about the roster cuts and the thoughts behind them:
[URL="http://theredskinsblog.com/2008/09/03/wednesday-september-3-talking-cuts-with-scott-campbell/#comment-2260"]Wednesday, September 3: Talking Cuts With Scott Campbell « The Official Blog of The Washington Redskins[/URL][/quote]

Good read thanks for posting that.

EXoffender 09-04-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
Yes, maybe we drafted him too high but, we needed to draft a CB. None of our CBs are durable and we have to build for the future. We can afford to give him some time to stick. He has speed and had good stats coming out of college.

Maybe the bickering is about who should be on the roster instead of him?

celts32 09-04-2008 04:16 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=PennSkinsFanhR;470831]We kept Tryon because it would have been embarrassing to cut him taking him as a long shot in the 4th round. Fact is, Tryon was awful, he looked lost,and Matteral Richardson played better than he did. This was the one roster spot that was really just a poor move.[/quote]

I don't buy that. You can cut a 4th round pick without embarresment. You are definitley locked into keeping rounds 1-3 the first year but 4th round picks and lower get cut all the time. They are obviously too high on him to pull the cord just yet over the bad pre season game performances.

CRedskinsRule 09-04-2008 04:27 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=JLee9718;470584]I would rather have kept Matteral Richardson than Tryon.[/quote]

Actually JLee, we kept them both. Fact is that the chances another team would take Tryon is probably a lot higher than someone taking Richardson(obviously no one else took Richardson so even a 1% chance of someone taking Tryon is higher) and then we WOULD have only had one choice. As it is now, we can develop both, and see who can compete in the future.

JoeRedskin 09-04-2008 06:14 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;471295]Actually JLee, we kept them both. Fact is that the chances another team would take Tryon is probably a lot higher than someone taking Richardson(obviously no one else took Richardson so even a 1% chance of someone taking Tryon is higher) and then we WOULD have only had one choice. As it is now, we can develop both, and see who can compete in the future.[/quote]

Brilliant, absolutely brilliant observation. You must come from a very very smart family.

T.O.Killa 09-06-2008 04:53 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I just wanted to point out that Tryon, played in the Giants game and we never saw him.

JLee9718 09-08-2008 11:08 AM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I don't know why we kept Tryon, but I do know that Richardson looked awfully good in the preseason games and he got cut from the 53 man roster.

mcarey032 09-09-2008 12:23 PM

Re: Why did we keep Tryon?
 
I am sorry, but there is no way that Tryon deserved a spot over Mason. I believe that this is a pride thing and that Zorn wants to put guys that he and Cerrato selected to have some sort of loyalty towards him as opposed to picking the guys that are best suited for this team. You can't tell me that Billy McMullen and Marcus Mason didn't play their way onto this team and that Tryon deserved a spot over them. They kept a guy who was burned like toast and they cut the guys who produced, but supposedly had minor things like he catches the ball with his body and the running back doesn't know the playbook. I am sorry, but I dont care really about how they practice, but it is how they produced and against other teams those two players did so. It is insane that they worked their butts off and Tryon got abused and looked lost out there kept his job. Rediculous.


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