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emmmitt smith or troy aikman never did anything like this.michael irvin is'nt anything but a thug,plain and simple.he still can't get away from his criminal self.why do you think espn let him go?he should be sitting his punk ass in a jail cell right beside nate newton.
every cowboy fan i know would think exactly like me when it comes to this.and if a member of the redskins ever did something like this,i'd be saying the same thing about him.but i have yet to hear about a redskin slitting a teammates throat,and getting management to cover it up.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;478440]The idea that an extramarital affair is not really different from slitting someone's throat over a place in line is retarded. So, do you think (a) that people who have affairs should be sentenced to years in prison, or (b) that people who slit throats should get no jail time? Because, if the two acts aren't really distinguishable, you should believe either a or b.

I know you think you are the purveyor of truth and the rest of us are blind, dumb, homers, but your perception of the Redskins and Redskins fans is downright comical. You and those blind homers are two sides of the same coin.[/quote]

irish probably didn't cite the best examples. Even those would be suspect at best though.

The story of Ricky Sanders's hit and run, Rafel Cherry's murder of his wife (post Redskins years), Emmitt Smith's story instantly reminded me of Darrell Green of course. With Wilburn, Peters, and Timmy Smith (again post Redskins years) we've of course had our share of cocaine possessors/distributors.

I suspect there are worse things that the Redskins have done (that even I don't know, no Charles Haley's as best as I know), and other teams as well. But it seems as though what the Cowboys did back in the day is at another level. And this shouldn't be brushed aside, especially because they claim to be "America's Team"

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[quote=SmootSmack;478461]irish probably didn't cite the best examples. Even those would be suspect at best though.

The story of Ricky Sanders's hit and run, Rafel Cherry's murder of his wife (post Redskins years), Emmitt Smith's story instantly reminded me of Darrell Green of course. With Wilburn, Peters, and Timmy Smith (again post Redskins years) we've of course had our share of cocaine possessors/distributors.

I suspect there are worse things that the Redskins have done (that even I don't know, no Charles Haley's as best as I know), and other teams as well. But it seems as though what the Cowboys did back in the day is at another level. And this shouldn't be brushed aside, especially because they claim to be "America's Team"[/quote]

has espn commented on this story? seems like this is not getting the media attn something like this usually gets,this seems like a bobshell to me and its getting treated as just another day in the life

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Definitely online. On television, I suspect so. I haven't been watching the past couple of days so I can't say for sure.

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The book is called "Boys Will Be Boys" by Jeff Pearlman, and it tells the inside story of the Dallas Cowboys championship teams of the early '90's. Kissing Suzy Kolber lists some of the highlights:

* Michael Irvin once wanted his haircut by the team barber. When Everett McIver wouldn't get out of the chair, Irvin did what any reasonable teammate would do, yelled “Seniority! Seniority! Seniority! Punk, get the fuck out of my chair!” and stabbed McIver in the neck with scissors.
* Irvin bankrolled a 'Boys charity basketball team called the Hoopsters as an excuse to get guys away from their wives and onto a private jet where they'd bang women of Irvin's choosing.
* Haley (who I once heard Fred Smerlas describe as the most despicable person and filthiest racist he's ever met) once bugged Scott Case in a meeting by saying “Scott, turn around, I gotta show you something… Scott, dammit, turn around! You need to see this!” and when Case turned around, Haley had slung his massive penis across his desk.
* Haley cut a hole in the roof of Tim Haris' BMW and peed in it.
* At another meeting, Haley came out of the bathroom, dropped his pants, wiped his ass and threw the crappy toilet paper at his LB coach.
* The Cowboys held position meetings in strip joints and they gave specific instructions to American Airlines that they only be assigned hot stewardi.

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[quote=SmootSmack;478465]Definitely online. On television, I suspect so. I haven't been watching the past couple of days so I can't say for sure.[/quote]

do you have a link to any espn stories? and do you agree or disagree with me about this story not getting that much media attn?

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[quote=irish;478430]No really different.

I get a kick out of guys saying how terrible this is when they would give anything to to be on a championship team, knowing you are great, running with the guys, and having a great time no matter what mayhem you cause. Jealousy is an interesting thing.[/quote]
Maybe you. Not me.

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[quote=htownskinfan;478467]do you have a link to any espn stories? and do you agree or disagree with me about this story not getting that much media attn?[/quote]

I would agree. I mean honestly I've been so busy the last couple of days I have no idea what the media is talking about. But if you haven't heard much about it or can find links easily then that should say that it's probably not getting that much attention.

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I just got done reading this book. It's great for anyone needing more reasons to hate anything with a star on its helmet. (As if anyone did...) Emmit Smith was as much of a douchebag as I always thought he was.

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;486283]I just got done reading this book. It's great for anyone needing more reasons to hate anything with a star on its helmet. (As if anyone did...) Emmit Smith was as much of a douchebag as I always thought he was.[/quote]

Any highlights re: Smith?

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;486283]I just got done reading this book. It's great for anyone needing more reasons to hate anything with a star on its helmet. (As if anyone did...) Emmit Smith was as much of a douchebag as I always thought he was.[/quote]

Must be the weird beard :)

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how much is that book selling for?if it's around 20 bucks i may buy it.

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[quote=53Fan;478164]I'm surprised the cowgirls could even have a huddle. From what I understand, convicted felons are'nt suppose to associate with other convicted felons.[/quote] This can't be true. I've seen Kenny Wright and Dexter Manley chillin' with each other.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;478253]Starring Michael Irvin as Edward Scissorhands. I can't believe he didn't do time for the stabbing.[/quote] Fortunately, he had the same judge that M. Westbrook had after putting his fist through S. Davis's head. (while helplessly on the ground)

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486425]Fortunately, he had the same judge that M. Westbrook had after putting his fist through S. Davis's head. (while helplessly on the ground)[/quote]

Yeah...not quite the same thing

and Kenny Wright wasn't a Redskin when he ran into his problems

props to you though for being one of the only Cowboys fans to visit this site after last weekend

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[quote=Daseal;478293]I wouldn't be too rough. There were Redskins that couldn't even read. Every team has dark moments in their closet. That's just how it is. The Cowboys have certainly had their fair share. But I bet people around here would be crying and whining if there were something showing this same type of material about the Redskins. All in all I find the concept pretty interesting. I always wonder what happens behind closed doors with NFL teams.[/quote] Great post. If you let some people tell it, their favorite teams are "squeaky clean". Check the stats and see who has had some brushes with the law within the last 10 or so years.

(funny how this stat never makes it on teams boards.)

I know no Cowboys have had any brushes, so let's see what the other statistics show. I'm afraid some people might not like what they will find. But, I'm pretty sure no other team has had arrest since this time............

(sarcastically LOL!)

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[quote=djnemo65;478312]I don't think it's that simple Daseal. The culture that Gibbs instilled - in the 80's and to perhaps a larger extent in his second term - was one of responsibility and character. To be sure, people slipped, but there was a conscientious effort from the top down to build a team of solid citizens. The Cowboys, on the other hand, have only ever cared about winning, character be damned. From there drug-addled teams in the 70's, to the aformentioned Johnson era teams, to today where that criminal madman Pacman runs around their stadium.

Me? I'd rather win a superbowl with crooks than suck with choir boys, but I certainly respect what Gibbs did. I definitely think there's a world of difference between the culture of the Skins and the culture down in Dallas.[/quote] Let's see...........................

Tony Peters------------Drugs

Dexter Manley----------Drugs

Barry Wilburn-----------Drugs, Armed Robbery

Michael Westbrook------Assault and Battery (should've been locked up for impersonating a WR.)

George Rogers----------Drugs

Timmy Smith------------Drugs

Yeah, I see the big difference between the Skins and Cowboys culture.

Too bad more NFL teams couldn't have Gibbs guys like this.

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[quote=SmootSmack;486428]Yeah...not quite the same thing

and Kenny Wright wasn't a Redskin when he ran into his problems

props to you though for being one of the only Cowboys fans to visit this site after last weekend[/quote] Well I didn't think the Cowboys would go undefeated. I'm not ashamed to come here after a loss, because the Skins came to play last week and Dallas didn't. That happens in the NFL, Congradulations.

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wtf does not being able to read have anything to do with the culture of the club? That has to do with house someone is raised in terms of education. No one knew he couldnt read when we picked him up.

At least the Skins make an effort to look for character when getting players. When you have an asshole owner(JJ) you get dicks as players(Smith, Irvin, Owens, Tank, Pacman, I could go on all day) more so.

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486447]Let's see...........................

Tony Peters------------Drugs

Dexter Manley----------Drugs, Couldn't read

Barry Wilburn-----------Drugs, Armed Robbery

Michael Westbrook------Assault and Battery (should've been locked up for impersonating a WR.)

George Rogers----------Drugs

Too bad more NFL teams couldn't have Gibbs guys like this.[/quote]

Barry Wilburn's armed robbery charge (which was dropped) came long after his time with the Redskins

Michael Westbrook wasn't a Gibbs guy

Rogers' issues were before he was a Redskin (admittedly that's not much better than the Cowboys going after Tank or Pac Man)

But really, it seems like you're defending the Cowboys' history in the 90s. Any issues any other teams have should not and does not lessen the off-field transgressions of the Cowboys.

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[quote=SmootSmack;486452]Barry Wilburn's armed robbery charge (which was dropped) came long after his time with the Redskins

Michael Westbrook wasn't a Gibbs guy

Rogers' issues were before he was a Redskin (admittedly that's not much better than the Cowboys going after Tank or Pac Man)

But really, it seems like you're defending the Cowboys' history in the 90s. Any issues any other teams have should not and does not lessen the off-field transgressions of the Cowboys.[/quote] No I'm not defending them at all, I'm just proving that pretty much every team has their problem spots.

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[quote=hooskins;486451]wtf does not being able to read have anything to do with the culture of the club? That has to do with house someone is raised in terms of education. No one knew he couldnt read when we picked him up.

At least the Skins make an effort to look for character when getting players. When you have an asshole owner(JJ) you get dicks as players(Smith, Irvin, Owens, Tank, Pacman, I could go on all day) more so.[/quote] You are absolutely right about Manley's reading problem, that's why I changed it.

The only "Smith" I know is Emmitt. How is he a d*ck? Yeah, Irvin had his fair share of f-ups, but both are HOFers. I'll take that any day.

Maybe JJ should be more like Danny boy and overpay for guys like Stubblefield, Archuleta (highest paid safety in NFL history), B. Lloyd, B. Smith, a washed up D. Sanders, T.J. Duckett, M. Westbrook, M. Carrier, S. Richards.

But hey......................these are character guys, right!

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[quote=hooskins;486451]wtf does not being able to read have anything to do with the culture of the club? That has to do with house someone is raised in terms of education. No one knew he couldnt read when we picked him up.

At least the Skins make an effort to look for character when getting players. When you have an asshole owner(JJ) you get dicks as players(Smith, Irvin, Owens, Tank, Pacman, I could go on all day) more so.[/quote] Oh yeah, please tell me which one of these players or the other players "you could go on all day" with has disgraced the Cowboys? How many of these players have been in trouble as a Cowboy, within the last 10 to 12 years? None.

Can you say that about your team?

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486457]You are absolutely right about Manley's reading problem, that's why I changed it.[/quote]

You're so noble

[quote]The only "Smith" I know is Emmitt. How is he a d*ck? Yeah, Irvin had his fair share of f-ups, but both are HOFers. I'll take that any day.[/quote]

Did you read the book...or even the first post in this thread? I'll take HOF'er Art Monk over Michael Irvin...any day

[quote]Maybe JJ should be more like Danny boy and overpay for guys like Stubblefield, Archuleta (highest paid safety in NFL history), B. Lloyd, B. Smith, a washed up D. Sanders, T.J. Duckett, M. Westbrook, M. Carrier, S. Richards.[/quote]

Every time you post, you make errors. Stubblefield and Richard were pre-Snyder

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486458]Oh yeah, please tell me which one of these players or the other players "you could go on all day" with has disgraced the Cowboys? How many of these players have been in trouble as a Cowboy, within the last 10 to 12 years? None.

Can you say that about your team?[/quote]

But you went after Tank and Pac Man knowing full well they have one foot out the door in this league.

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The bottom line is no one wrote a book about the Redskins partying/acting like criminal a-holes when we won our Super Bowls. I wonder why.

Apparently JJ and his 4 man babysitting squad that follows PacMan around is having a tough time keeping him in line. He's a ticking time bomb, just like TO who seemed to be whining yet again today.

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[quote=SmootSmack;486460]You're so noble



Did you read the book...or even the first post in this thread? I'll take HOF'er Art Monk over Michael Irvin...any day



Every time you post, you make errors. Stubblefield and Richard were pre-Snyder[/quote] Well I'm not perfect, mistakes happen.

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[quote=GMScud;486464]The bottom line is no one wrote a book about the Redskins partying/acting like criminal a-holes when we won our Super Bowls. I wonder why.

Apparently JJ and his 4 man babysitting squad that follows PacMan around is having a tough time keeping him in line. He's a ticking time bomb, just like TO who seemed to be whining yet again today.[/quote]

By the way, did you notice how Santana reacted after getting no catches today? Exactly

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[quote=GMScud;486464]The bottom line is no one wrote a book about the Redskins partying/acting like criminal a-holes when we won our Super Bowls. I wonder why.

Apparently JJ and his 4 man babysitting squad that follows PacMan around is having a tough time keeping him in line. He's a ticking time bomb, just like TO who seemed to be whining yet again today.[/quote] There is a SB winner Leonard Little that has actually killed a woman. Guess what? He is still playing for the Rams. If he played for the Cowboys, it would have been blown up 1000 times greater.

Every team in every sport has or had idiots whether the media talks about them or not.

It is no secret that the Cowboys problems or successes are magnified larger than everybody else's. "I wonder why". It's funny when someone mentions the SB victorys from that time, it's all of a sudden "ancient history", but a lot of these things discussed are about players from that time. "I wonder why?"

That's old news right? Just like those SB wins, correct?

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[quote=SmootSmack;486466]By the way, did you notice how Santana reacted after getting no catches today? Exactly[/quote] He was frustrated just like any receiver might be. Do I notice that different guys handle things different ways? Yes.

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486467]There is a SB winner Leonard Little that has actually killed a woman. Guess what? He is still playing for the Rams. If he played for the Cowboys, it would have been blown up 1000 times greater.

Every team in every sport has or had idiots whether the media talks about them or not.

It is no secret that the Cowboys problems or successes are magnified larger than everybody else's. "I wonder why". It's funny when someone mentions the SB victorys from that time, it's all of a sudden "ancient history", but a lot of these things discussed are about players from that time. "I wonder why?"

That's old news right? Just like those SB wins, correct?[/quote]

So you're saying the Redskins off field transgressions are just as bad as Dallas', but yours just appear worse because of media bias? Please. Your heyday was full of a-hole criminals, and since then JJ has desperately tried every approach (including re-filling the locker room with a-hole criminals), and still can't win a playoff game.

You wanna discuss players from your heyday, fine. You wanna discuss players from your current team, fine. I'm not hiding behind any notion of the past.

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486468]He was frustrated just like any receiver might be. Do I notice that different guys handle things different ways? Yes.[/quote]

Yeah, guys handle things different ways. When Santana has ZERO catches and his team still wins, he's thrilled. When TO has a bad day and his team wins, he bitches and looks miserable on the sideline. When he has a bad day and his teams loses, he calls out teammates and coaches. Then he has another subpar day and still bitches about "dealing with a lot of issues this week." He's a friggin punk.

Santana has better numbers this year and handles himself like a professional. TO can't define or spell professional. You're on a Redskins fan board. You're fighting an uphill battle you won't win.

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[quote=GMScud;486469]So you're saying the Redskins off field transgressions are just as bad as Dallas', but yours just appear worse because of media bias? Please. Your heyday was full of a-hole criminals, and since then JJ has desperately tried every approach (including re-filling the locker room with a-hole criminals), and still can't win a playoff game.

You wanna discuss players from your heyday, fine. You wanna discuss players from your current team, fine. I'm not hiding behind any notion of the past.[/quote]Okay, Irvin had his run-ins and Nate Newton certainly wasn't a choir boy, but who are these other a-hole criminals that the Cowboys were full of?

And of recent years how many arrests has happened between the Cowboys and Redskins?

It's funny how the Bengals clearly have the worst off the field team, but according to some, you would never know it despite the Cowboys not having ANY arrests for years. But..............whatever helps you sleep at night.

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486473]Okay, Irvin had his run-ins and Nate Newton certainly wasn't a choir boy, but who are these other a-hole criminals that the Cowboys were full of?

And of recent years how many arrests has happened between the Cowboys and Redskins?

It's funny how the Bengals clearly have the worst off the field team, but according to some, you would never know it despite the Cowboys not having ANY arrests for years. But..............whatever helps you sleep at night.[/quote]

Well, in reference to your Super Bowl teams, there's a whole book for you to read talking about what kind of no-class team of jerks you were.

Sure, lately neither the Cowboys or the Skins have recent arrests. But you guys are right there with the Bengals as far as bringing in known dickheads. TO, PacMan, Tank... You don't see the Skins taking these kind of gambles on known scumbags. And how has it worked for you? Still haven't won a playoff game in 12+ years...

And yeah, I'm sleeping well at night right now.

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[quote=GMScud;486471]Yeah, guys handle things different ways. When Santana has ZERO catches and his team still wins, he's thrilled. When TO has a bad day and his team wins, he bitches and looks miserable on the sideline. When he has a bad day and his teams loses, he calls out teammates and coaches. Then he has another subpar day and still bitches about "dealing with a lot of issues this week." He's a friggin punk.

Santana has better numbers this year and handles himself like a professional. TO can't define or spell professional. You're on a Redskins fan board. You're fighting an uphill battle you won't win.[/quote] I'll be the first to admit, that Santana is probably a overall better teamate than T.O.. Whether he was dealing with issues or not, I don't know, but he still is a great receiver and I don't think he has a clause in his contract saying he can't be a punk. Whether he is a punk or not that's not my concern, as long as he produces.

One thing I can say, T.O. doesn't give up on an intercepted pass. I like punks that will have zero catches and still run down a player that has intercepted the ball and runs all the way down field to help block. Can't say I've seen Santana do these things.

Yes, Santana is better statistically...............so far, but it is a long season, so we'll see. I beg to differ the last couple of seasons though. Wasn't even close.

By the way I know what team's board this is and I'm not trying to fight a battle. Just giving an opinion just like you guys, that's all.

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[quote=GMScud;486474]Well, in reference to your Super Bowl teams, there's a whole book for you to read talking about what kind of no-class team of jerks you were.

Sure, lately neither the Cowboys or the Skins have recent arrests. But you guys are right there with the Bengals as far as bringing in known dickheads. TO, PacMan, Tank... You don't see the Skins taking these kind of gambles on known scumbags. And how has it worked for you? Still haven't won a playoff game in 12+ years...

And yeah, I'm sleeping well at night right now.[/quote] Yeah, they have to get over that playoff hump. With that said, none of these players were the reasons behind those playoff loses.

-Romo, botched snap. (against Seahawks)

- Crayton, dropped passes. (against Giants)

So actually, it's working out just fine. Thanks for asking.

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[quote=Bluezz DC;486476]Yeah, they have to get over that playoff hump. With that said, none of these players were the reasons behind those playoff loses.

-Romo, botched snap. (against Seahawks)

- Crayton, dropped passes. (against Giants)

So actually, it's working out just fine. Thanks for asking.[/quote]

Well if "just fine" is ZERO playoffs wins in over a decade and a Cowboys fan on a Redskins site offering excuses liked botched snaps and dropped passes (things poorly coached teams do), then yeah, I hope it continues to work out just "just fine" for you.

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[quote=GMScud;486477]Well if "just fine" is ZERO playoffs wins in over a decade and a Cowboys fan on a Redskins site offering excuses liked botched snaps and dropped passes (things poorly coached teams do), then yeah, I hope it continues to work out just "just fine" for you.[/quote] Yeah it's been tough. No playoff success, no SB wins.................

Is it as tough for you too? I mean...........they both haven't done anything special. Damn, that's right.........you guys won a playoff game or two right. Too bad they don't hand out "playoff trophys", then you guys would have more recent championships to brag about.

How is a botched snap, of two crucial dropped passes an excuse or the coaches fault? That's what happened. I didn't see Parcells lose the handle on the snap or I didn't see Phillips drop open TD catches. If it was up to coaching, Gibbs is better than both of these guys. Why didn't this "HOFer" win a SB during his second time around? He is a great coach, right?

It is what it is. Plus, they lost to a very strong Giants team that went on to win the whole thing.

It's not like they got put out of the playoffs by some team like...............
the Seahawks or anything.

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who was the cowboy player that died of an overdose?he was a rb or offensive lineman i think?all teams have their problems,but all teams do not have owners that cover that shit up like jerry jones certainly did with irvin.if the dallas da had any guts at all,and comissioner goodell too,he'd look into why jerry jones intentionally covered up a major felony.i try to be fair,but the cowboys and players got by with so much back then,it's hard to see how that was fair.dexter deserved to go to jail,but so did michael irvin for at least 10 years.they were arguring over a haircut,i'd hate to think what irvin would have done of they were arguring over something really important like a shave and shampoo over the haircut would'nt you?

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[QUOTE] the Seahawks or anything. [/QUOTE]

who was that that romo fumbled the snap against???