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BigHairedAristocrat 02-26-2009 02:24 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;530292]Suisham and Golston as well, not sure on the specifics[/quote]

thanks for the news about Golston. I imagine he'd get the 2nd round tender. Rumor had it teams were interested in him and he'd be a steal for a 6th rounder. If someone wants him, maybe they'll meet us halfway. If we get Haynesworth and keept Monty and Griff, we dont really need him and i'd be happy with a 4th rounder.

53Fan 02-26-2009 02:47 PM

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Video plus scroll down for bargain FA's. Should we look at Kevin Burnett?
[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80ef3356&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true&icampaign=DW-free-agency-thursday]These potential free agents could come at a bargain price[/url]

Ruhskins 02-26-2009 02:50 PM

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I didn't know Indy and the Pats had such little room under the cap.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/02/26/tampa-bay-working-with-most-salary-cap-space/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Tampa Bay working with most salary cap space «[/url]

SBXVII 02-26-2009 02:57 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;530198]Haynesworth could easily go to Tampa Bay and get tons of money. What do you think is his interest to come to DC?[/quote]

Beating the hell out of a Dallas Cowboy center at the line of scrimage and sacking their QB. Just for payback for his getting into trouble for stepping on their linemans head. LOL.

53Fan 02-26-2009 03:29 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;530320]Beating the hell out of a Dallas Cowboy center at the line of scrimage and sacking their QB. Just for payback for his getting into trouble for stepping on their linemans head. LOL.[/quote]

That's what I'm talking about! :woot:

SBXVII 02-26-2009 06:08 PM

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I know I asked this in another thread but can we actually accomplish what the original poster has suggested? or even close to it with getting Haynesworth?

44ever 02-26-2009 06:17 PM

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Did anyone else know the Eagles are 47M under cap? I just read it and couldnt believe it.

vallin21 02-26-2009 06:19 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;530425]I know I asked this in another thread but can we actually accomplish what the original poster has suggested? or even close to it with getting Haynesworth?[/quote]
I think signing AH makes it extremley difficult to sign any other FA's, Hall etc. With that said I wouldn't be surprised if we cut Springs to free up more room (aprox 6 mil) that would give us around 18-20 mil to play with. I personally would not sign AH, and go after Canty and re sign Hall but I doubt that going to happen when I wake up on Fri.

vallin21 02-26-2009 06:21 PM

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[quote=44ever;530428]Did anyone else know the Eagles are 47M under cap? I just read it and couldnt believe it.[/quote]

Wow I didn't know that, but then again I'm not surprised. Where did you find out?

SmootSmack 02-26-2009 06:21 PM

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Eagles have like $18 million in cap credits

Ruhskins 02-26-2009 06:23 PM

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[quote=44ever;530428]Did anyone else know the Eagles are 47M under cap? I just read it and couldnt believe it.[/quote]

I'm not surprised, the Eagles don't spend any money in the offseason and then we have to hear McNabb sulk.

44ever 02-26-2009 06:32 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;530438]I'm not surprised, the Eagles don't spend any money in the offseason and then we have to hear McNabb sulk.[/quote]

Cant blame McNabb for wanting good recievers.

44ever 02-26-2009 06:33 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;530436]Eagles have like $18 million in cap credits[/quote]

How does that work (cap credits)?

SmootSmack 02-26-2009 06:48 PM

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[quote=44ever;530444]How does that work (cap credits)?[/quote]

[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2008/12/monday-money-matters-16/]The National Football Post | Monday Money Matters[/url]

[quote]Another way leftover Cap room is soaked up is through earned incentives. Without getting too technical, NFL teams go through a “netting process” at the end of the season where unearned LTBE (Likely To Be Earned) incentives are netted out against earned NLTBE (Not Likely To Be Earned) incentives, creating a debit or credit toward the 2009 Salary Cap. Some teams are more incentive-oriented than others. At the Packers, I did not negotiate many incentive-laden deals unless they were for players coming off injuries, as experience showed that incentive-laden deals tend to lead players toward selfish rather than team-based goals.



Finally, the most common way of using up leftover Cap room at the end of the season is through a somewhat silly but allowable mechanism of phony incentives. By including a new incentive in a renegotiated contract at the end of the season, the incentive is by rule considered LTBE, thereby immediately counting against the Cap. Thus, when the incentive is not earned, and it never is, the money is then credited toward the next year’s cap, resulting in the double benefit of using up current Cap room and crediting new Cap room toward the next year.



As to how the above works, consider the following: A team will approach its third-string quarterback with one game left in the season and negotiate a clause that gives the player $5M for throwing 6 touchdown passes during the season. The $5M comes off the existing Cap, and when unearned, credits against the coming Cap.



I did this a couple of times with Craig Nall, bless his heart — although I had a couple heart palpitations one year when we wrapped up a playoff berth moments before our last game against the Bears, making it entirely meaningless. Brett Favre only played a series or two, then Doug Pederson played the rest of the half. Then, to my surprise, Craig was to play the entire second half. After he threw a touchdown, I laughed. If he had thrown another, I would have started to worry a bit. If he had thrown a third, I may have come down to the sideline and pulled him out of the game myself!
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Dirtbag59 02-26-2009 07:42 PM

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So as it stands right now how much cap room are we looking at for this offseason?

GMScud 02-26-2009 07:46 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag359;530482]So as it stands right now how much cap room are we looking at for this offseason?[/quote]

I believe Schneed10 said earlier he has us at around $11.8M under currently. If we drop Springs it will save us and additional $6M.

44ever 02-26-2009 07:54 PM

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Thanks for taking the time to post that Smoot (cap credits)

ChickenMonkey 02-26-2009 08:00 PM

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A follow up on Hayensworth, what I suspected all along!!!!!!!!!!!

The Nashville Tennessean believes Albert Haynesworth may only be using the Redskins to drive up the free agent's price tag.

The Washington Post was skeptical at first too. The 'Skins don't currently have the cap space to offer a monster contract, so they would have to do some serious tinkering to pull it off.
Source: Nashville Tennessean

44ever 02-26-2009 08:17 PM

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;530495]A follow up on Hayensworth, what I suspected all along!!!!!!!!!!!

The Nashville Tennessean believes Albert Haynesworth may only be using the Redskins to drive up the free agent's price tag.

The Washington Post was skeptical at first too. The 'Skins don't currently have the cap space to offer a monster contract, so they would have to do some serious tinkering to pull it off.
Source: Nashville Tennessean[/quote]

Well if it means dumping JT, Springs and giving up Hall and any chance at Canty. Let him go. Someone posted earlier if Haynesworth was looking to play on a winning team he would stay with the Titans. He wants a huge payday and I dont trust him anyway. We cant afford a BIG mistake this year. We're to close to becoming a great team with the right moves.

SBXVII 02-26-2009 09:00 PM

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;530495]A follow up on Hayensworth, what I suspected all along!!!!!!!!!!!

[B]The Nashville Tennessean believes Albert Haynesworth may only be using the Redskins to drive up the free agent's price tag.[/B]

The Washington Post was skeptical at first too. The 'Skins don't currently have the cap space to offer a monster contract, so they would have to do some serious tinkering to pull it off.
Source: Nashville Tennessean[/quote]

Uh, what would you expect the Tenn. media to say or think. Haynesworth has been given an offer and he snubbed it. The team came back with another offer after they learned of the Skins dinner and he has said he will see what FA has for him. The fans and media are probably getting all miffed cause he snubbed them twice so now they are going to blame the Skins for driving up the market on Haynesworth. Certainly the Skins don't care to talk money and possibly take him out from under them even though everyone knows we despiratly need to upgrade our DT possition.

Yea, we are a tool. Every year we hear how the Skins are looking at so and so. Except the difference this year is we actually did have a dinner meeting with the agent and Snyder is truly interested in a DT to upgrade our defensive line.

I guess if AH truly wanted to stay with a winning team and he would have probably taken the second deal that was worth more. ......or maybe AH is looking to get out of dodge for the NFC beast.

That Guy 02-26-2009 09:27 PM

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the first post has bad numbers imho. i don't think your getting brown or canty in here at 4mill for 2009. probably too low on hall too. and we have rookies and RFA tenders.

we might need to resign kendall or a cheap LB or whatnot too, and leave a little money for possible in season signings...

one thing i haven't mentioned is cutting trash though. always an option, though it doesn't save you much at all.


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