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:lol: The whole team will have it before long. I hear it's spreading pretty fast.

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jerry jones won a michael jackson look-a-like contest last night.




(im sorry?)

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[quote=over the mountain;576261]the warpath has me confused.

- the cowboys are horrible and are going to stay horrible this year b/c of their first preseason game in which their 1st team O scored a td while us being shut out isnt an indication that our O problems last year wont materalize again this year?

- jamarcus russell is not an nfl qb and youve already written him off despite him having less years in the league, less starts and even more turmoil than JC who you think is an nfl qb?

- jerry jones is an ass b/c he tries to sell tickets and charge 90 bucks for pizza but dan snyder isnt an ass for doing those expensive club level seats to cater to corporate suits instead of real skins fans, adding front rows in front of row 1, charging for training camp admission, not having a decent jumbotron, etc?

- getting rid of TO wasnt a good move but getting TO in the first place wasnt a good move either?

- is this a joke thread??

go skins!![/quote]

My negative comments about the Cowboys did not arise so much from their stinky preseason performance but from a season-long prognostication. You are right that one preseason game is meaningless.

As for TO, I think the Cowboys were smart to remove the cancer. However, they did downgrade their talent at the position. IMO a smarter move for the Cowboys would have been to get a talented but noncancerous receiver not named TO to begin with. Then they would not have to excise the tumor.

As for Snyder vs Jerry, I'm not going to defend either one. Snyder replaced the raucous blue collar fan base with suits who sell tickets to Steelers fans and Jerry charges $90 - $90! - for pizzas in his new Xanadu.

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[QUOTE=Lotus;576275]My negative comments about the Cowboys did not arise so much from their stinky preseason performance but from a season-long prognostication. You are right that one preseason game is meaningless.

As for TO, I think the Cowboys were smart to remove the cancer. However, they did downgrade their talent at the position. IMO a smarter move for the Cowboys would have been to get a talented but noncancerous receiver not named TO to begin with. Then they would not have to excise the tumor.

[B]As for Snyder vs Jerry, I'm not going to defend either one. Snyder replaced the raucous blue collar fan base with suits who sell tickets to Steelers fans and Jerry charges $90 - $90! - for pizzas in his new Xanadu.[/[/B]QUOTE]

BADA-BING!!!

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[quote=over the mountain;576274]jerry jones won a michael jackson look-a-like contest last night.




(im sorry?)[/quote]

Have you ever seen Jerry moonwalk? Good stuff man. Good stuff.

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I think Tom Cable is at least changing a little bit of the culture there. Also, the Raiders should have at least a decent pass D with Asomugha there and they have a potentially very good running game that's also pretty deep.

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they might be awful, and I hope they are but they did score more points than we did in their first outing, what does that make us? super awful?

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On a side note, speaking of those party passes... I would be ALL over those if Fedex had those. I'm typically standing the entire game anyway and it would bring a GREAT sense of camaraderie with other fans AND allow fans to make it to the games much cheaper.

Now let me back on the subject...

Yes, it's preseason, and you have to take everything with a grain of salt. That being said, while there might be vanilla offenses and vanilla defenses, if you look bad executing that's something that is extremely problematic whether it's preseason or not and is going to carry over to the season.

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Its preaseason, so I didn't expect Dallas to take this game seriously. They wanted to get out healthy and score w/ their 1st team. They accomplished both (something we didn't do). On paper they're the least talented team in our Division, they're suspect in coverage and can't stop the run, but saying they're awful is a bit much considering we put up 0 against B-more.

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[quote=Lotus;576124]I agree GTripp. Dallas looked bad.

The Dallas offensive line is older and more injury prone than ours. Although TO is a nightmare to deal with, when they let him go they downgraded at WR. The secondary is a mess and the DL is nothing to write home about outside of Ratliff.

I think the Cowboys will win 6-8 games this year, fire Wade, and hire Shanahan.[/quote]


Yep that sounds about right, possible 9 wins. Not having the body-catcher on the team is a downgrade because although Roy Williams has shown flashes of him being good he is not on the same level as TO. Cory Procter must go he is terrible. DL-DE needs depth bad.

By the way the skins played I guess the Ravens must be stacked with defensive talent.

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I hate the cowgirls, but it's pre-season they are going to show you vanilla.

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[quote=Valleyranchgirl;576350]Yep that sounds about right, possible 9 wins. [I][B]Not having the body-catcher on the team is a downgrade because although Roy Williams has shown flashes of him being good.[/B][/I] Cory Procter must go he is terrible. DL-DE needs depth bad.

By the way the skins played I guess the Ravens must be stacked with defensive talent.[/quote]

:confused:

And... eh?

Anyway, I'm not super upset about our backups getting beat by their backups. Our depth apparently isn't as good. Nothing ever tells the real story of preseason. Who knows what plays were trying to be run or what player was specifically being looked at?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;576368]:confused:

And... eh?

Anyway, I'm not super upset about our backups getting beat by their backups. Our depth apparently isn't as good. Nothing ever tells the real story of preseason. Who knows what plays were trying to be run or what player was specifically being looked at?[/quote]

I edit that post.

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[quote=DFI;576327]they might be awful, and I hope they are but they did score more points than we did in their first outing, what does that make us? super awful?[/quote]

DUDE........they played Oakland, which is about 3 guys away from being a college team. Baltimore is gonna be a great team this year, and they looked like it Thursday night. It is the preseason, so all the speculation is in fun at this point. I cant wait for the real games to start.

Ps. Somehow being reminded that Detroit was 4-0 last preseason made me feel alot better about our game. :)

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[quote=GTripp0012;576112]Not to overvalue a single game performance in the preseason, but oh man these guys are bad. First team offense was completely shut down by the Raiders' secondary. Romo and Witten are still a nice passing tandem and Felix Jones was impressive, but the first team run defense was terrible (gave up long runs to McFadden and JaMarcus Russell), and their second teamers were torn up by the legendary Bruce Gradkowski-Louis Murphy passing tandem.

Wade Phillips blew a gasket a least three different times.

On the other hand, the Raiders are young and talented. If they had a quarterback somewhere on their roster, they could be a playoff contender...[/quote]
I guess I watched a different game then.....the Dallas starting offense was not bad at all actually.

They only played the 1st quarter and the starting offense only played for two possessions in that first quarter. The first possesion resulted in a punt.

The second possesion resutled in a 72 yard TD drive by the Dallas starting unit. The Cowboys moved the ball at will on that drive. They did not even have a single third down to convert, moving the chains on first and second down for the entire drive. Barber, Jones and Choice all had double digit runs on that drive. Romo was 6 for 7 with a TD.

After that TD drive, the starters were done for the evening.

However, the RAIDERS starting offensive and defensive lines played into the 3rd quarter against the Dallas second and third units.

Admittedly, depth is a serious concern on the Dallas O-line and defensive secondary. Because the starting CB's for Dallas did not even suit up for the game.

But as I reviewed the team stats at the end of week 1 of the pre season I notice that the Baltimore Ravens lead the NFL in Passing Offense and total offense.

I also noticed that 2 of 3 Dallas QB's had a higher completion percentage then JC.

But it is just preseason, a time for trying out the bottom of an 80 man roster. Most teams that end up in the Super Bowl at the end of the year have had horrible pre-season records and stats.

So for Dallas and Washington, this means nothing.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;576594]I guess I watched a different game then.....the Dallas starting offense was not bad at all actually.

They only played the 1st quarter and the starting offense only played for two possessions in that first quarter. The first possesion resulted in a punt.

The second possesion resutled in a 72 yard TD drive by the Dallas starting unit. The Cowboys moved the ball at will on that drive. They did not even have a single third down to convert, moving the chains on first and second down for the entire drive. Barber, Jones and Choice all had double digit runs on that drive. Romo was 6 for 7 with a TD.

After that TD drive, the starters were done for the evening.

However, the RAIDERS starting offensive and defensive lines played into the 3rd quarter against the Dallas second and third units.

Admittedly, depth is a serious concern on the Dallas O-line and defensive secondary. Because the starting CB's for Dallas did not even suit up for the game.

But as I reviewed the team stats at the end of week 1 of the pre season I notice that the Baltimore Ravens lead the NFL in Passing Offense and total offense.

I also noticed that 2 of 3 Dallas QB's had a higher completion percentage then JC.

But it is just preseason, a time for trying out the bottom of an 80 man roster. Most teams that end up in the Super Bowl at the end of the year have had horrible pre-season records and stats.

So for Dallas and Washington, this means nothing.[/quote]

I agree overall, but one thing I would say, is that Oakland took their top CB( their shutdown corner) out after the [B]1st[/B] Dallas drive where Dallas went 3 and out. On the second drive, that scored, every meaningful reception was against his backup. Also, Dallas had been "scolded" by their coach WP ahead of the game, and they still came out and just looked overwhelmed on the first series. I was not very impressed, but it's only preseason.

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i don't understand why Dallas got rid of their d-line depth. Were they too expensive?

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After our performance I have a hard time calling any team Awful then to start talking down their D after ours gave up over 500 yards is even harder.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;576602]i don't understand why Dallas got rid of their d-line depth. Were they too expensive?[/quote]
I would say the biggest loss was Chris Canty who went on to get a 50m contract from the G-men.

Dallas could not afford to keep Canty while they are trying to negotiate the contract extension for DeMarcus Ware.

They signed Igor Olashansky in the off-season. They see him as a "cheaper" version of Canty, and they signed him for much less than Canty was looking for.

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This has nothing to do with this thread but...did you know Michael Irvin is going to be on Dancing with the Stars? (no, I don't really care either)...so is Joanna Krupa so that could be interesting.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;576606]I would say the biggest loss was Chris Canty who went on to get a 50m contract from the G-men.

Dallas could not afford to keep Canty while they are trying to negotiate the contract extension for DeMarcus Ware.

They signed Igor Olashansky in the off-season. They see him as a "cheaper" version of Canty, and they signed him for much less than Canty was looking for.[/quote]

Cheaper version I guess. You get what you pay for. Olshansky is no Canty.

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[quote=SmootSmack;576613]This has nothing to do with this thread but...did you know Michael Irvin is going to be on Dancing with the Stars? (no, I don't really care either)...[B]so is Joanna Krupa so that could be interesting[/B].[/quote]

Complete hijack warning: I think Krupa will take it, she has past dancing experience as a Juggie Dancer for two years on the Man Show.

Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.

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Olshansky is a tough 3-4 end. Their D is underachieving at times, but Brooking at ILB should help. They have a talented team w/holes on both sides of the ball, just like us & many teams.

Our problem w/them in the 2nd game in 08 was getting enough time for JC. If we can't block Ware, Spencer & Ratliff, our only hope of beating them is on spec. teams & D scores.

I don't take too much from either team's 1st preseason game. Both teams have unproven players (Wash- thomas, kelly, heyer, rinehart, orakpo, Dall - austin, jenkins, scandrick) that need to step up for their teams to be successful. Both teams also have proven vets that will be solid & vets that may be on the downside more than they realize (wash - samuels, fletcher, dall - flozell adams, colombo).

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[quote=dmek25;576113]their fans are probably saying the same about us :([/quote]

Of course. They're supposed to as rivals...however, we have facts on our side of the argument. Dallas has so many roster holes and seems to have lost more pieces than filled them in the offseason. Also, Wade is still their coach and Romo is still grossly overrated.

Say hello to 14 years in a row without a playoff win.

They'll be battling the Eagles for the NFC East basement.

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[quote=DFI;576327]they might be awful, and I hope they are but they did score more points than we did in their first outing, what does that make us? super awful?[/quote]


No, this makes you Chicken Little.

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[quote=freddyg12;576617]Olshansky is a tough 3-4 end. Their D is underachieving at times, but Brooking at ILB should help. They have a talented team w/holes on both sides of the ball, just like us & many teams.

Our problem w/them in the 2nd game in 08 was getting enough time for JC. If we can't block Ware, Spencer & Ratliff, our only hope of beating them is on spec. teams & D scores.

I don't take too much from either team's 1st preseason game. Both teams have unproven players (Wash- thomas, kelly, heyer, rinehart, orakpo, Dall - austin, jenkins, scandrick) that need to step up for their teams to be successful. Both teams also have proven vets that will be solid & vets that may be on the downside more than they realize (wash - samuels, fletcher, dall - flozell adams, colombo).[/quote]
Their D will be solid, if WP focuses on it, if he has to do more HC and less DC tasks the D will suffer. as for their line vs ours. I think ours will be much more up to the task. I think they will see age strike fiercely (I believe all of their OLine is 30+) and they have not done much in ways of drafting either. The only way we really struggle is if Samuels goes down the day after Levi Jones signs somewhere else ;)

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[quote=sandtrapjack;576606]I would say the biggest loss was Chris Canty who went on to get a 50m contract from the G-men.

Dallas could not afford to keep Canty while they are trying to negotiate the contract extension for DeMarcus Ware.

They signed Igor Olashansky in the off-season. They see him as a "cheaper" version of Canty, and they signed him for much less than Canty was looking for.[/quote]

LOST:
Chris Canty
Ter Owens
Greg Ellis
Horsecollar Williams
Brad Johnson
Anthony Henry

GAINED:
Jon Kitna
Igor Olshansky
*Nobody else of significance*


KEPT:
Wade Phillips


Nothing but downgrades. No great #1 WR, no clear #1 RB (this is why they're a RRBC), a QB with a track record of choking, aging O-line, very questionable secondary. Their only real strengths are LBs and possibly D-line...but they're still weaker than the Skins and Giants in these departments.

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[quote=Buster;576988]LOST:
Chris Canty
Ter Owens
Greg Ellis
Horsecollar Williams
Brad Johnson
Anthony Henry

GAINED:
Jon Kitna
Igor Olshansky
*Nobody else of significance*


KEPT:
Wade Phillips


Nothing but downgrades. No great #1 WR, no clear #1 RB (this is why they're a RRBC), a QB with a track record of choking, aging O-line, very questionable secondary. Their only real strengths are LBs and possibly D-line...but they're still weaker than the Skins and Giants in these departments.[/quote]

Chris Canty - Tough to replace, but wanted too much money when signing Ware long term is a priority. If you cant have both, who would you rather keep? Ware or Canty?

Ter Owens - mouth, attitude yes, but put up 1000+ yard and double digit TD's each year he was there. We'll see how this one works out.

Greg Ellis - cry baby veteran who was very long in the tooth who's replacement was drafted 2 years ago (Spencer).

Horsecollar Williams - Liability in coverage. Sensabaugh takes his place, this is a huge upgrade in the secondary.

Brad Johnson - spaghetti arms, good riddance

Anthony Henry - injured each of the past 3 years, not getting any younger. Scandrick and Jenkins showed they are starting material and made Henry expendable.

GAINED:
Jon Kitna - Dont laugh, but he is an upgrade over Johnson. Much better arm strength. And he was QB in Detroit when Roy Williams went to the pro bowl.

Igor Olshansky - cheaper version of Canty. Not as good, but cheaper. Compare his stats and Canty's over the last 3 years. Almost identical in every category. Difference being Olshansky played in a weak division and Canty in the strongest in the league. And he (Olshansky) was drafted by Wade Phillips in San Diego. So there is some famialiarity there.

*Nobody else of significance*

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[quote=sandtrapjack;577053]Chris Canty - Tough to replace, but wanted too much money when signing Ware long term is a priority. If you cant have both, who would you rather keep? Ware or Canty?

Ter Owens - mouth, attitude yes, but put up 1000+ yard and double digit TD's each year he was there. We'll see how this one works out.

Greg Ellis - cry baby veteran who was very long in the tooth who's replacement was drafted 2 years ago (Spencer).

Horsecollar Williams - Liability in coverage. Sensabaugh takes his place, this is a huge upgrade in the secondary.

Brad Johnson - spaghetti arms, good riddance

Anthony Henry - injured each of the past 3 years, not getting any younger. Scandrick and Jenkins showed they are starting material and made Henry expendable.

GAINED:
Jon Kitna - Dont laugh, but he is an upgrade over Johnson. Much better arm strength. And he was QB in Detroit when Roy Williams went to the pro bowl.

Igor Olshansky - cheaper version of Canty. Not as good, but cheaper. Compare his stats and Canty's over the last 3 years. Almost identical in every category. Difference being Olshansky played in a weak division and Canty in the strongest in the league. And he (Olshansky) was drafted by Wade Phillips in San Diego. So there is some famialiarity there.

*Nobody else of significance*[/quote]

Don't laugh, Kitna is an upgrade over Romo the fumble-a-saurus.'

Nice to see you at least admit that your team opened up a lot of positional holes in the offseason, upgraded MAYBE one (backup QB) and did not even fill most of them.

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Kitna is a great backup QB. I doubt Romo will miss any time though. Romo just seems like a QB that will play for years w/out serious injury.

The whole division is up for grabs really. I think Philly got better. The Skins should sustain if not get better. NY is NY and they have talent. The Cowboys should be good unfortunately. They've got some great backs, Jones, Barber, and a good Qb who makes plays (i really do hate him). Their D is a Wade Phillips D which is generally pretty good.

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[quote=redsk1;577240]Kitna is a great backup QB. I doubt Romo will miss any time though. [B]Romo just seems like a QB that will play for years w/out serious injury. [/B]

The whole division is up for grabs really. I think Philly got better. The Skins should sustain if not get better. NY is NY and they have talent. The Cowboys should be good unfortunately. They've got some great backs, Jones, Barber, and a good Qb who makes plays (i really do hate him). Their D is a Wade Phillips D which is generally pretty good.[/quote]

you do remember he missed 3 games last year because of an injured pinky?

Plus his offensive line is worse(my opinion) than ours both for the starters and in depth. I would not be surprised if we take Romo out in our first game - of course as the Redskins have done in the past, they may lose the game to the backup :doh:

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[quote=sandtrapjack;577053]Chris Canty - Tough to replace, but wanted too much money when signing Ware long term is a priority. If you cant have both, who would you rather keep? Ware or Canty?

Ter Owens - mouth, attitude yes, but put up 1000+ yard and double digit TD's each year he was there. We'll see how this one works out.

Greg Ellis - cry baby veteran who was very long in the tooth who's replacement was drafted 2 years ago (Spencer).

Horsecollar Williams - Liability in coverage. Sensabaugh takes his place, this is a huge upgrade in the secondary.

Brad Johnson - spaghetti arms, good riddance

Anthony Henry - injured each of the past 3 years, not getting any younger. Scandrick and Jenkins showed they are starting material and made Henry expendable.

GAINED:
Jon Kitna - Dont laugh, but he is an upgrade over Johnson. Much better arm strength. And he was QB in Detroit when Roy Williams went to the pro bowl.

Igor Olshansky - cheaper version of Canty. Not as good, but cheaper. Compare his stats and Canty's over the last 3 years. Almost identical in every category. Difference being Olshansky played in a weak division and Canty in the strongest in the league. And he (Olshansky) was drafted by Wade Phillips in San Diego. So there is some famialiarity there.

*Nobody else of significance*[/quote]

All of these guys are replacable expect Owens. Spencer is more than ready to take over for Ellis. Olshansky is solid. But taking Owens off your offense is going to hurt. Roy Williams is simply one of the most overrated players in the NFL and I don't know what Jones was thinking giving up two #1's for him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;577270]All of these guys are replacable expect Owens. Spencer is more than ready to take over for Ellis. Olshansky is solid. But taking Owens off your offense is going to hurt. Roy Williams is simply one of the most overrated players in the NFL and I don't know what Jones was thinking giving up two #1's for him.[/quote]
Yeah, I think the jury will be out for a while on that one (Owens/Williams).

I see Dallas using a lot more 2 TE sets this year and running the ball more with Barber, Jones and Choice. And if I am right, it means less passes to WR's. So the jury may be out for a while.

BTW, FYI it was a first, third and a fourth I believe for Williams. Not nit-picking it is still steep for a guy with only one pro-bowl under his belt.

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[quote=Buster;577232]Don't laugh, Kitna is an upgrade over Romo the fumble-a-saurus.'

Nice to see you at least admit that your team opened up a lot of positional holes in the offseason, upgraded MAYBE one (backup QB) and did not even fill most of them.[/quote]
You really should not even mention "personnel depth" considering the performance of the Redskins in thier preseason opener.

Three Baltimore QB's combine for 399 yards passing. The Baltmore offense puts up "half-a-century" (500 yards) in total offense.

The Redskins offense did not fair much better. The 'Skins offense did not drive any further than the Ravens 30 the whole game. And 9 of thier 12 drives never made it past the 50 yard line.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;577243]you do remember he missed 3 games last year because of an injured pinky?

Plus his offensive line is worse(my opinion) than ours both for the starters and in depth. I would not be surprised if we take Romo out in our first game - of course as the Redskins have done in the past, they may lose the game to the backup :doh:[/quote]

True.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;577280]You really should not even mention "personnel depth" considering the performance of the Redskins in thier preseason opener.

Three Baltimore QB's combine for 399 yards passing. The Baltmore offense puts up "half-a-century" (500 yards) in total offense.

The Redskins offense did not fair much better. [B]The 'Skins offense did not drive any further than the Ravens 30 the whole game. And 9 of thier 12 drives never made it past the 50 yard line[/B].[/quote]

That is the art of offense without playing offense. Master Zorns new scoring style!

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;576985]Their D will be solid, if WP focuses on it, if he has to do more HC and less DC tasks the D will suffer. as for their line vs ours. I think ours will be much more up to the task. I think they will see age strike fiercely (I believe all of their OLine is 30+) and they have not done much in ways of drafting either. The only way we really struggle is if Samuels goes down the day after Levi Jones signs somewhere else ;)[/quote]

I've been saying the same thing in other threads, their o line is already on the old side & to my surprise they've had a lot of picks (12 this year) but haven't used a high pick for the o line.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;577053]Chris Canty - Tough to replace, but wanted too much money when signing Ware long term is a priority. If you cant have both, who would you rather keep? Ware or Canty?

Ter Owens - mouth, attitude yes, but put up 1000+ yard and double digit TD's each year he was there. We'll see how this one works out.

Greg Ellis - cry baby veteran who was very long in the tooth who's replacement was drafted 2 years ago (Spencer).

Horsecollar Williams - Liability in coverage. Sensabaugh takes his place, this is a huge upgrade in the secondary.

Brad Johnson - spaghetti arms, good riddance

Anthony Henry - injured each of the past 3 years, not getting any younger. Scandrick and Jenkins showed they are starting material and made Henry expendable.

GAINED:
Jon Kitna - Dont laugh, but he is an upgrade over Johnson. Much better arm strength. And he was QB in Detroit when Roy Williams went to the pro bowl.

Igor Olshansky - cheaper version of Canty. Not as good, but cheaper. Compare his stats and Canty's over the last 3 years. Almost identical in every category. Difference being Olshansky played in a weak division and Canty in the strongest in the league. And he (Olshansky) was drafted by Wade Phillips in San Diego. So there is some famialiarity there.

*Nobody else of significance*[/quote]

I'd say the cowpokes had a great offseason w/one exception; no signficant picks or free agents on the o line. I think the Kitna pickup was smart as was Olshansky. And especially getting TO out will help big time.

You guys all forgot about Keith Brooking.
He's a bit old but should be an upgrade over Z. Thomas. Also, Carpenter is another young OLB that at least provides solid depth. Their draft should bolster some positions & improve special teams.

The g-men & iggles are getting most of the attention, but skins v. boyz might be what decides the div. I wouldn't sleep on either one.

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Not many teams get shut out, but I think the Redskins might be just a little underrated. However, I would change QB's fast if we don't generate some kind of offense. Zorn should make sure he gives the team the best chance to win, even in a preseason game. I would rather see Chase starting at QB if we're going to put zeroes up on offense.

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[quote=JLee9718;577332]Not many teams get shut out, but I think the Redskins might be just a little underrated. However, I would change QB's fast if we don't generate some kind of offense. [B]Zorn should make sure he gives the team the best chance to win, even in a preseason game.[/B] I would rather see Chase starting at QB if we're going to put zeroes up on offense.[/quote]

why?