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NEVER has a better....get well oppurtunity been provided to the infirmed.
I believe they will KICK SOME ASS!!
[B]HTTR[/B]

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I never make predictions because I secretly don't want to jinx the team, but who the F cares at this point.

We win [B]13-6[/B] in another crapfest were we have to hold our breath at the end. The D gets a couple of sacks (3 tops) and maybe one lucky-break TO and at least one of our starters gets hurt enough that he needs to leave for the rest of the game but he's fine for next week.

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[quote=Green1;599148]I would love to see JC start the game in the No Huddle. It seems to be the only time in the games we can move the ball. Let JC call the plays, at least for a little while.[/quote]
I personally would love that, let him establish his own d*** rhythm. won't happen though. :(

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Our guys SHOULD be angry and be able to tear up ANY team we're facing after the national embarrassment.

Skins 27
Bucs 9

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[quote=Mattyk72;599143]I would love to see the team come out on Sunday and look like they give a shit. I hate talking about touchy feely crap like heart and passion, but right now it just seems like the team is lacking in that area for whatever reason. The team needs to grow a pair and come out and hit someone in the chops.[/quote]

I totally agree. Do they come out fighting or have they packed it in after 3 games? I hope its the former.

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We will beat the bucks. We can't possibly take this game for granted- the skins will come out hungry- if not, it will be a long, long season.

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I expect the Bucs to go Max-protect and completely befuddle Blache.

On Defense, the Bucs will take away the 5-15 yard routes and cheat to Samuels and Dockery's side of the ball to defend the run. Skins will sputter as a result.

BUT, the Skins will find a way to make less mistakes and back into the win 13-7.

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Watching some some games this year I think Detroit is a better team than Tampa Bay, though Tampa's offense gave Dallas all they could handle in week one (but that isn't exactly saying they are the 2007 Pats). They are giving Johnson his first start. He looked good in garbage time against the Giants and has a much quicker release than Leftwich, but Byron always lights it up in D.C. so maybe it is a good thing he is out. Two bad teams going at it on Sunday. I don't know, 13-9 flip a coin to see which team ends up on top? I might use the power of Sunday Ticket to watch something else and just catch the ShortCut. Depends if my wife insists on watching the Skins or not. It is that bad.

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What happens when a stoppable force meets a movable object...you get the Bucs vs. Skins. LOL.

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[quote=Buster;599256]Our guys SHOULD be angry and be able to tear up ANY team we're facing after the national embarrassment.

Skins 27
Bucs 9[/quote]

I made the same argument after the Rams game. :(

Who knows who will show up on Sunday?

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I think the Bucs are the absolute worst team in football. If we fail to beat the Bucs, we should consider a move to the Big Ten.

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We are gonna lose 20-3. Time to work the reverse psychology.

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Skins win! The D attacks and dictates the game, rather than allow a crappy Greenhorn QB dictate the game.

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im encouraged by the way the offense has moved the ball thru the air. i am discouraged by the lack of a sustainable ground attack. 0 rushing yards and 8 mins of poss time in the first half against the lions is a hard pill to swallow.

if the D can get off the field to allow our O more than 8 mins of poss in the first half i like the skins chances of winning.

skins 23
bucs 17

go skins!!

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Get the fans back on your side! Show no mercy! Send everybody and the kitchen sink after the second year quarterback. Make an example of the Bucs on the scoreboard. Prove to everyone and yourself that the Skins are not the worst team in NFL football. I don't want any excuses.

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I think we move the ball up and down the field inside the 20's all day long and JC has great stats but few scores until 5min left into the game. We loose 10 to 14. We then have another week like the last two and some feel good with JC play and blames the D and coaching.

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[quote=firstdown;599421]I think we move the ball up and down the field inside the 20's all day long and JC has great stats but few scores until 5min left into the game. We loose 10 to 14. We then have another week like the last two and some feel good with JC play and blames the D and coaching.[/quote]

Let's get off the QB and focus on some other issues. #1 how do you see the defense playing, and #2 will we be able to run the ball at all?

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I feel like we win this one don't know why but I just feel it. 21-17 skins.

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[quote=firstdown;599421]I think we move the ball up and down the field inside the 20's all day long and JC has great stats but few scores until 5min left into the game. We loose 10 to 14. We then have another week like the last two and some feel good with JC play and blames the D and coaching.[/quote]
Actually I ment to end by saying JK but had a call and hit enter by accident.
Skins 28
TB 10

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[quote=Mattyk72;599424]Let's get off the QB and focus on some other issues. #1 how do you see the defense playing, and #2 will we be able to run the ball at all?[/quote]

I think the D will play with a chip on their shoulder and go after TD. Last week Zorn started the game passing but I'd like to see them establish the run first then work down field.

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The team has to come out determined like the last two games were simply a fluke (whether or not they weren't).

At the end of the day, we're one win away from .500 (which is probably one less win than most thought we would have after the first quarter of the season) so it's really important for the players and coaches to focus on that and not come out dejected.

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Just heard Andre Carter on Moving the Chains:

-He seemed to think guys are just trying to do too much, guys need to relax and have fun

-No problems with the schemes, players need to go out there and execute what is called

-Business as usual this week, preparing hard for the Bucs, last week is behind them

-On losing to the Lions, they were the better team that day

-Zorn has not lost the locker room. Too early in the season, still 13 games to go, a win this week and they're 2-2. The world is not ending.

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The Redskins SHOULD win this game, but they SHOULD have won the last game, too. I'll take the Skins 13-9.

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I'd like to say I think the Skins will win this game easily given I still think we have a pretty good roster and the Bucs are horrible and are giving us a second year qb who's never started (aka they should be ripe for the picking), but then again I thought the Skins would come out inspired to prove themselves against the Lions and look what happened.

Instead I'll just say I hope losing to the Lions was the thing they needed to change their state of mind and hopefully right the ship, and hopefully we'll see the Redskins team we know they are capable of being. If not, well then it's gonna be another long week and we'll be one week/step closer to going insane.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;598860]I think Jansen sold us out ;), TB doesn't have him, 35-7 Skins[/quote]

I think you're right. Can't blame him he's with a new team he owes us nothing.

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[QUOTE=SC Skins Fan;599286]Watching some some games this year I think Detroit is a better team than Tampa Bay, though Tampa's offense gave Dallas all they could handle in week one (but that isn't exactly saying they are the 2007 Pats). They are giving Johnson his first start. He looked good in garbage time against the Giants and has a much quicker release than Leftwich, but Byron always lights it up in D.C. so maybe it is a good thing he is out. Two bad teams going at it on Sunday. I don't know, 13-9 flip a coin to see which team ends up on top? I might use the power of Sunday Ticket to watch something else and just catch the ShortCut. Depends if my wife insists on watching the Skins or not. It is that bad.[/QUOT

Why don't you just go ahead and use your DVR so if the Redskins win then you can go back later and watch. Sounds like you ready to jump the ship anyways.:twocents:

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I think Greg Blache will call a more attacking style defense and we will see Orakpo rushing the passer more. I also hope to see Chris Wilson on the field more on pass rushing downs. We need a more athletic DT next to AH. Phillip Daniels provides no rush off the edge, do to his older age and lack of mobility. Like to see Jarmon or Wilson getting after the QB in rushing situations. The Redskins will break the Red Zone slump and Alridge will get some touches this game.

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Blowout!

Redskins - 45
Tampa Bay - 10

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We won't win unless the defense actually shows up. We absolutely have to stop the run from the get-go. We haven't been able to do that yet. It makes me really nervous.

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[quote=franklinhimself;599885]We won't win unless the defense actually shows up. We absolutely have to stop the run from the get-go. We haven't been able to do that yet. It makes me really nervous.[/quote]

My feelings exactly. Derrick Ward killed us last year when he was with the Giants and did pretty good against Dallas. If our run defense gives up another 100 yd + game, there is no way we win this game and I don't care what team we play. We can't score points which leaves any team in the game.

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Terrible. We lose.

Skins 1-4....on our way to 1-6 and the break. :)

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I won't make any predictions on win or lose but I will make one...

Either we will dominate every phase of this game and win in a blowout or lose in a blowout. There won't be any close game this Sunday. We're due to suck it up and get back or track or just fold for the season.

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[quote=skins89moss;599801]I think Greg Blache will call a more attacking style defense and we will see Orakpo rushing the passer more. I also hope to see Chris Wilson on the field more on pass rushing downs. We need a more athletic DT next to AH. Phillip Daniels provides no rush off the edge, do to his older age and lack of mobility. Like to see Jarmon or Wilson getting after the QB in rushing situations. The Redskins will break the Red Zone slump and Alridge will get some touches this game.[/quote]

I liked that we've been seeing quite a bit of Jarmon out there. Have you noticed that we're getting gashed up the gut rather than on the edges? I think our ends are playing well. I get worried that since we allow AH to freelance, that he might miss someone coming up the middle.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;600020]I liked that we've been seeing quite a bit of Jarmon out there. Have you noticed that we're getting gashed up the gut rather than on the edges? I think our ends are playing well.[B] I get worried that since we allow AH to freelance, that he might miss someone coming up the middle[/B].[/quote]

I would agree with you TMC except that Tennessee seemed to do just fine w/AH playing the way he does. I know that the "D" in general are missing a lot of tackles.

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[quote=Mattyk72;599534]Just heard Andre Carter on Moving the Chains:

-He seemed to think guys are just trying to do too much, guys need to relax and have fun

[B]-No problems with the schemes, players need to go out there and execute what is called[/B]
-Business as usual this week, preparing hard for the Bucs, last week is behind them

-On losing to the Lions, they were the better team that day

-Zorn has not lost the locker room. Too early in the season, still 13 games to go, a win this week and they're 2-2. The world is not ending.[/quote]

The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.

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[quote=53Fan;600029]I would agree with you TMC except that Tennessee seemed to do just fine w/AH playing the way he does. I know that the "D" in general are missing a lot of tackles.[/quote]

Sadly I think it's our corners. I never want to see Smoot on the field again. I love the guy but he doesn't even belong on an NFL roster. In limited time this year, Tryon has actually played well in the regular season. I wouldn't even be opposed to picking up a vet DB right now.

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[quote=Beemnseven;600032]The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.[/quote]

But when someone goes max protect, you'd assume we'd have more DBs than they do WRs to throw the ball to.

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[quote=Beemnseven;600032]The pressure just isn't there, and sometimes I think Blache could care less.

Larry Weisman, online reporter for Redskins.com had a good point the other day, but it's probably obvious to most: The Lions went with Max Protect the other day, and had seven blockers in for most of the game, while we rushed just four. That just won't get the job done, and I don't care how good your corners are -- (and ours aren't very good right now) -- when you give a QB all day to throw, he's going to connect more often than not.

We should have harassed Stafford all day long.[/quote]Kind of like TMC said, the only time it makes sense to blitz into a max protect is when you are trying to take advantage of a specific match-up. I'm pretty sure Blache isn't smart enough to find one.

The proper way to defend the max protect is to go the other way and drop into 8 man coverage and force the quarterback to get impatient and throw ill-advised interceptions because he can't find anyone open. But by rushing four the whole game and giving Stafford only two to three different coverages to look at, he basically kept giving him one on one matchups and a clean pocket to throw from. The only way you can win that is if you win your one on ones (Rogers v. Bryant Johnson, and Smoot v. whoever). Rogers performed badly and Smoot just sucks.

But a 3 man rush with 6 guys in intermediate/deep coverage would have been the best way to go against the max protect, IMO. I don't understand: Blache figured this out against Flacco last year, and they used an identical scheme. Perhaps the difference was the Rogers won 90% of his matchups against Mason last year and only 30% of his matchups against Bryant Johnson. If that's the big difference, well, Blache needs to do better, but it's hardly all his fault.

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For me, I thought Bryant Johnson just had the game of his life. Rogers had very good coverage but Johnson was making some insane catches.

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GTripp -- who would be your favorite D-coordinator, past or present?