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and georgia tech wins over clemson. gotta say i dont like either team, im a hokie, but it would really be a disgrace if an unranked team won a bcs conference. clemson's side of the acc had no ranked teams, our side had 3. pretty lopsided this year. congrats to GT.

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[quote=Big C;634219]what an end to that texas game. real shame that they will most likely be in the natty championship game. really pathetic game from them today. today rules tebow and mccoy out of the heisman race imo, both were poor today, especially mccoy. gotta say texas doesnt deserve to be in the national title game with these last 2 showings when you have several other undefeated teams out there.[/quote]

to their credit texas is a pretty good team, and they are unbeaten too, with a lot harder schedule. i would rather see bama v texas, and tcu v cicny, cause they will be better games anyway.

boise st should not be aloud in a bcs bowl game until they change the color of their stupid ass feild, i can't stand to watch a game on that dumb ass feild

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[quote=mlmdub130;634223]to their credit texas is a pretty good team, and they are unbeaten too, with a lot harder schedule. i would rather see bama v texas, and tcu v cicny, cause they will be better games anyway.

boise st should not be aloud in a bcs bowl game until they change the color of their stupid ass feild, i can't stand to watch a game on that dumb ass feild[/quote]

texas' schedule a lot harder? this is one of the worst years for the big 12, they were a great conference last year but oklahoma sucked this year, ok state was overrated, texas tech very average, all of the big 12 north besides nebraska were average to poor. texas had a rather easy schedule to be honest. they are solely going to the national championship due to where they started the season. as ive said before, tcu would give bama the best game, cinci's defense is terrible, and boise has no shot at making the game. just saying that imo texas doesnt deserve it with their performances this season.

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while the ig 12 is at it's worst it's still a tough division imo, and i still thin texas give bama the best gane if you walk to talk about easy schedules take a look at byu they barely be clemson and only played byu and utah as other ranked teams

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You know, watching the SEC Championship game highlights right now- I really didn't like Florida coming out in all white with those new helmets. Orange helmets, blue jerseys. That's when we roll. Not like it woulda mattered today, but still. Really didn't dig the all white.

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How about CJ Spiller for Heisman? That guy is a monster. Ingram is great, but Spiller is out of this world.

Spiller was so close to going to Florida, too. He's from right outside Gainesville, FL, and after Tebow committed to Florida he was trying really hard to get Spiller to join him. Everyone thought it was between Florida and Florida St for him, and out of nowhere he chose Clemson.

I can only dream of how crazy it would have been to have Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, and CJ Spiller on the field at the same time. Holy crap that would have been fun.

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[quote=GMScud;634269]How about CJ Spiller for Heisman? That guy is a monster. Ingram is great, but Spiller is out of this world.

Spiller was so close to going to Florida, too. He's from right outside Gainesville, FL, and after Tebow committed to Florida he was trying really hard to get Spiller to join him. Everyone thought it was between Florida and Florida St for him, and out of nowhere he chose Clemson.

I can only dream of how crazy it would have been to have Tim Tebow, Percy Harvin, and CJ Spiller on the field at the same time. Holy crap that would have been fun.[/quote]
Spiller has been amazing right out of the gate < freshman > . The NCAA needs a playoff system , could be 4-5 or 6 teams and I would be happy . Had Spiller gone to UF < he should have > , you guys would have been very scary , hope Spiller does not end up in NY/Philly/NO or Minnesota . Have a great weekend guys ... go skins !

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If Nebraska had an offense, they'd have beat the crap out of Texas. I don't see why everyone is saying Spiller is a better RB than Gerhart? They're two different kinds of backs. If it's Bama and Texas, I'm going with The Tide and their fat boy Cody. I like that guy. He looks like an overweight Heyer with skill. Tim Tebow lost a lot of respect IMO by being a little cry baby. I still like him though, just a little less.

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I was kind of surprised to see Tebow respond emotionally like that. But oh well, I guess. He'll go high in the draft, still. I think he blew his chances at a Heisman with his performance though.

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Somewhat off track here, but I'm increasingly frustrated with the media chasing and creating storylines and not acknowledging what they should. For instance, it seemed to me that Tim Tebow and Florida got more attention for what they didn't do instead of Bama stomping the crap out of them. I've also noticed that following Notre Dame games, whether it be NBC or ESPN, the story was always about Charlie Weis and his seniors. Win, lose, or draw the immediate interviews were always with Weis.

I felt bad for Connecticut after they beat Notre Dame, same with Stanford and Navy, how it was all about whether Weis was staying or going.

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[quote=12thMan;634346][B]Somewhat off track here, but I'm increasingly frustrated with the media chasing and creating storylines and not acknowledging what they should.[/B] For instance, it seemed to me that Tim Tebow and Florida got more attention for what they didn't do instead of Bama stomping the crap out of them. I've also noticed that following Notre Dame games, whether it be NBC or ESPN, the story was always about Charlie Weis and his seniors. Win, lose, or draw the immediate interviews were always with Weis.

I felt bad for Connecticut after they beat Notre Dame, same with Stanford and Navy, how it was all about whether Weis was staying or going.[/quote]

Nothing new there. Is the average joe sports fan more likely to change the channel if the network is talking about Stanford winning a ball game or the head coach of Notre Dame losing his job? They always sensationalize the stories about the big names. Do people want to see what a teary-eyed Tebow has to say about a big loss or listen to Greg McElroy?

Right or wrong, they are more focused on what keeps the viewers, and many times that's not the meat of the story.

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Unless we're talking about Stanford winning a national championship, Notre Dame will almost always be the bigger story

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Do you know what is really starting to bother me? Teams like Boise State, TCU, Cincinnati being ranked in the top ten without playing a single non conference top 25 team are. Now I am not saying that they are not worthy of a top 25 ranking, but they should have to play and beat a non conference top 10 team before they can be placed in the top 10.

This year we will be subject to at least one shitty BCS bowl game because nobody is scheduling these clowns. Florida is going to kill Cincinnati and there is no 2 ways about it. Boise State against TCU might be a halfway decent game because both of them are second rate (3rd in my opinion, but I am giving the people who vote some credit) top 25 teams. It’s a shame that we can’t put all three against each other in some sort of Round-Robin, over ranked team, Bowl extravaganza.

I cannot believe that some writers actually feel bad for these teams an write about how they aren’t getting their fair shot at the “National Title”. It’s because they are not really as good as their records look on paper; and I am glad that there are some people or at least a computer that see it the same way that I do. I realize that there are some people in Texas, Idaho, and Ohio that believe that I am an asshole and I am wrong. Well, they are half right because I am an asshole but I am not wrong. The way that I see it is that there are 2 ways to fix this problem. Either more respectable teams schedule these guys (isn’t going to happen) or college football goes to a playoff format. The playoff format is way overdue and would go a long way to shutting idiots like me up. Until then we will be subject to this [URL="http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=300012132"]Florida Gators vs. Cincinnati Bearcats Preview, January 1 2010 - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/URL] when we know that this was Florida’s punishment for losing last week and Cincinnati is just happy to be here.

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[quote=Angry;635937]Do you know what is really starting to bother me? Teams like Boise State, TCU, Cincinnati being ranked in the top ten without playing a single non conference top 25 team are. Now I am not saying that they are not worthy of a top 25 ranking, but they should have to play and beat a non conference top 10 team before they can be placed in the top 10.

This year we will be subject to at least one shitty BCS bowl game because nobody is scheduling these clowns. Florida is going to kill Cincinnati and there is no 2 ways about it. Boise State against TCU might be a halfway decent game because both of them are second rate (3rd in my opinion, but I am giving the people who vote some credit) top 25 teams. It’s a shame that we can’t put all three against each other in some sort of Round-Robin, over ranked team, Bowl extravaganza.

I cannot believe that some writers actually feel bad for these teams an write about how they aren’t getting their fair shot at the “National Title”. It’s because they are not really as good as their records look on paper; and I am glad that there are some people or at least a computer that see it the same way that I do. I realize that there are some people in Texas, Idaho, and Ohio that believe that I am an asshole and I am wrong. Well, they are half right because I am an asshole but I am not wrong. The way that I see it is that there are 2 ways to fix this problem. Either more respectable teams schedule these guys (isn’t going to happen) or college football goes to a playoff format. The playoff format is way overdue and would go a long way to shutting idiots like me up. Until then we will be subject to this [URL="http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=300012132"]Florida Gators vs. Cincinnati Bearcats Preview, January 1 2010 - NCAA College Football - ESPN[/URL] when we know that this was Florida’s punishment for losing last week and Cincinnati is just happy to be here.[/quote]

1.)Boise State beat Oregon who won the Pac-10
2.)TCU beat BYU( who beat Oklahoma ) and Utah
3.)Who did Ohio State beat?
3.) Which team's would you have take there spots in the BCS?

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[quote=WaldSkins;636248]1.)Boise State beat Oregon who won the Pac-10
2.)TCU beat BYU( who beat Oklahoma ) and Utah
3.)Who did Ohio State beat?
3.) Which team's would you have take there spots in the BCS?[/quote]

As long as there are no playoffs and sports writers run the show this is what you can expect. The games are great but the bowls are rigged.

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[quote=Angry;635937]Do you know what is really starting to bother me? Teams like Boise State, TCU, Cincinnati being ranked in the top ten without playing a single non conference top 25 team are. Now I am not saying that they are not worthy of a top 25 ranking, but they should have to play and beat a non conference top 10 team before they can be placed in the top 10.

[/quote]

the big 12 was bad this year, and out of conference texas played UTEP, Wyoming, and UL Monroe...thats pretty terrible. Florida always play chumps out of conference to include charleston southern, troy, and FIU this year...

to defend cincy, they did play oregon state away which is much harder than texas or florida did this year. they and alabama are the only 2 top teams that tried out of conference, besides boise scheduling oregon the first game of the year...

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;636254]As long as there are no playoffs and sports writers run the show this is what you can expect. The games are great but the bowls are rigged.[/quote]

I think that teams should be scheduling tougher opponents. There's no way a team like Penn State should get BCS consideration playing Akron, Temple, Syracuse, Illinois, and Eastern Illinois. PSU played ONE ranked team the entire season. College football is and always will be about making money.

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[quote=WaldSkins;636263]I think that teams should be scheduling tougher opponents. There's no way a team like Penn State should get BCS consideration playing Akron, Temple, Syracuse, Illinois, and Eastern Illinois. PSU played ONE ranked team the entire season. College football is and always will be about making money.[/quote]

the only problem is teams are scared to play teams like boise tcu and others because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing them

as far as penn state goes the whole big 10 is probably the most overhyped conference in the ncaa

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[quote=mlmdub130;636269]the only problem is teams are scared to play teams like boise tcu and others because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing them

as far as penn state goes the whole big 10 is probably the most overhyped conference in the ncaa[/quote]

Id say the Big East, Big Ten, and ACC are all over hyped

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[quote=mlmdub130;636269]the only problem is teams are scared to play teams like boise tcu and others because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose by playing them

as far as penn state goes the whole big 10 is probably the most overhyped conference in the ncaa[/quote]

Id say the Big East, Big Ten, and ACC are all over hyped

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[quote=WaldSkins;636275]Id say the Big East, Big Ten, and ACC are all over hyped[/quote]

the big ten definitely is, the SEC is depth wise. very top heavy. i disagree about the ACC or big east, neither are really hyped at all, in fact people put them down more than anything.

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[quote=Big C;636279]the big ten definitely is, the SEC is depth wise. very top heavy. i disagree about the ACC or big east, neither are really hyped at all, in fact people put them down more than anything.[/quote]

Id say they are over-hyped because of there automatic BCS bids.

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[quote=WaldSkins;636294]Id say they are over-hyped because of there automatic BCS bids.[/quote]

so do you think the sec is the only conference to get an automatic bowl bid?

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[quote=WaldSkins;636248]1.)Boise State beat Oregon who won the Pac-10
2.)TCU beat BYU( who beat Oklahoma ) and Utah
3.)Who did Ohio State beat?
3.) Which team's would you have take there spots in the BCS?[/quote]

People look too much into the records. There are 1, 2, and 3 loss teams out there that can take it to all 3 of those programs if given the opportunity. The point is that there needs to be a playoff. If one of those teams can make it through a single elimination playoff and win it all they would have my respect, but as of right now they don't have it.

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[quote=WaldSkins;636263]I think that teams should be scheduling tougher opponents. There's no way a team like Penn State should get BCS consideration playing Akron, Temple, Syracuse, Illinois, and Eastern Illinois. PSU played ONE ranked team the entire season. [B]College football is and always will be about making money[/B].[/quote]

What isn't?

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;636611]What isn't?[/quote]
gov't health care...

ok i'll go back in the corner now.

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[quote=Angry;636574]People look too much into the records. There are 1, 2, and 3 loss teams out there that can take it to all 3 of those programs if given the opportunity. The point is that there needs to be a playoff. If one of those teams can make it through a single elimination playoff and win it all they would have my respect, but as of right now they don't have it.[/quote]

playoffs sound great and i used to think that they need to change it, but when you sit back and think about it thats what makes college football so much fun to watch and you always have everyone talking.

next year is the last year under the current aggrement and we could see some change, but with the rise in popularity of college football i don't expect to see a huge change

this debate will go on forever if it goes to playoffs, then certain people will want the bowls back, i don't mind the bowl system, but wouldn't be opposed to a playoff, either way i love watching college football

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if the bowl structure is maintained id atleast like to see them up the win number to 8 for bowl elegibility. a 6-6 team should not be able to play in a bowl, im sorry. it makes it not that much of an accomplishment to make a bowl if you can be average or even below average.

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[quote=Big C;636279]the big ten definitely is, the SEC is depth wise. very top heavy. i disagree about the ACC or big east, neither are really hyped at all, in fact people put them down more than anything.[/quote]

I agree with you. The ACC isn't overhyped at all. In fact I know 3 teams off of the top of my head from that confrence who can beat Boise State, Cincy, and TCU. The sad thing is that none of them are anywhere close to the National Championship game even though they have [B]each[/B] played at least 3 or 4 top 25 teams and 1 or 2 of those games was to a top 10 opponent. I am talking about Georgia Tech, Miami, and Virginia Tech. All three of which are not only in the ACC, but are all in the Coastal division and had to beat up on each other as well. While I agree that they are not quite deserving of the National Championship game, I believe that they are more worthy than Boise State, Cincy, and TCU.

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[url=http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bowls/2010-01-01-rose-ohio-state-oregon_N.htm]Pryor's performance launches Ohio State past Oregon in Rose Bowl - USATODAY.com[/url] . Some nice bowl games , Bowden wins last game at FSU , Paterno and the PSU Lions kill the LSU Tigers and OSU Buckeye's drown the O. Ducks . Auburn and NW had a game also 38-35 OT . And VT spanked the Vols .......

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The Big 10 over-hyped? All I ever hear on TV is people talking about how the conference is no good and will never be able to compete with warm weather schools again. It's looking pretty good today though.

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Pretty emotional game for me watching Florida in Tim's last game. Man, I'm gonna miss him. I got so spoiled the last 3+ years. The first team in D1 history to win 13 games in consecutive years. The SEC is NFL, Jr. Cincy is easily a top 5 team, and Florida beat the living shit out of them in every aspect of the game. The Gator's athleticism is so far above Cincy's it's almost embarassing.

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Unbelievable performance by Tebow tonight. Meanwhile Tony Pike has 3 TD passes...yet is averaging less than 4 yards a completion

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"I plan on being the head coach of the Florida Gators." - Urban Meyer, when presented the Sugar Bowl trophy. Oh yeah......

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Wow! I am so glad that undefeated Ciny played a hell of a game against Florida last night, I mean wow! I was on the edge of my seat from start to finish! I mean, what a nailbiter!

Translation:

Holy Shit, why in the hell does a team like Ciny get matched up against a team like Florida; just because they're record reflects an undefeated season? The Gamecocks could go undefeated in the Big East right now. I couldn't stand to watch the game past the second quarter. It was like watching the Giants versus the Redskins. I mean WTF is up with the BCS? They should just take the "C" out and call it BS!

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[quote=Angry;648659]Wow! I am so glad that undefeated Ciny played a hell of a game against Florida last night, I mean wow! I was on the edge of my seat from start to finish! I mean, what a nailbiter!

Translation:

Holy Shit, why in the hell does a team like Ciny get matched up against a team like Florida; just because they're record reflects an undefeated season? The Gamecocks could go undefeated in the Big East right now. I couldn't stand to watch the game past the second quarter. It was like watching the Giants versus the Redskins. I mean WTF is up with the BCS? They should just take the "C" out and call it BS![/quote]
Nice post Angry . The BCS = BC/CASH . They should have a BCS - Playoff , the week before New Years , those games played in DC , NY , NJ , PA , Ohio , Wisc. Iowa , Nebraska ... ect. Then the winners play in the Bowl games . The NCAA is a joke when it comes to DIV 1 Football .

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Man what a bummer about Colt McCoy. His one and only shot at a title and he goes out on the first series with a shoulder injury. I thought Bama was gonna roll Texas with McCoy in there. This could end up ugly.

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The pass blocking of Bama tonight is reminiscent of the Redskins.

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gilbert is terrible. real shame we have to watch this game without mccoy on what looked to be a pretty standard tackle.

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wow. mack brown is an idiot. what was he trying to accomplish there at the end of the half? get into half time and lick your wounds. now down big. shovel pass with 18 seconds in your own territory? moron.