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[quote=SolidSnake84;636993]That being said, i wonder if the skins will use a draft pick on a RB, or will they just go the way of trying to fill holes through free agency...[/quote]
If so please let it be CJ Spiller he's a beast.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;636983]Cartwright just hasn't had the chance in the time he's been here....If he got the chance more often i guarantee he'd up his game.[/quote]

Most teams platoon their backfield and get plenty of production from their backs, regardless of how many carries they give them. RBs need to produce whether they get 1 or 30 carries. That's the reality these days. The rhythm argument is bogus. It's the same excuse Campbell used when he was struggling earlier in the year.

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In other Oakland news...Haynesworth won't play. It's buy one basket get one free nacho night at Verizon Center

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[quote=SmootSmack;637664]In other Oakland news...Haynesworth won't play. It's buy one basket get one free nacho night at Verizon Center[/quote]

that sob, what about hall? he's gotta be ready to go by now right

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[quote=mlmdub130;637674]that sob, what about hall? he's gotta be ready to go by now right[/quote]

haven't heard anything

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[quote=SmootSmack;637403]I thought I heard that Rock told Zorn and Danny Smith that if he's not starting he would rather just play special teams.

Anyway, Rock fails to realize that the Redskins took advantage of Campbell's hot hand and the weaknesses in the Saints secondary. Meanwhile Rock had three carries for like 1 yard in the first half if I remember right. Ganther had two for 10 yards.[/quote]

New Orleans Saints vs Washington Redskins
12/6/2009 at FedExField
First Half Summary
Q.Ganther 3 21 7.0 13 0
R.Cartwright 5 20 4.0 16 0

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[quote=30gut;637698]New Orleans Saints vs Washington Redskins
12/6/2009 at FedExField
First Half Summary
Q.Ganther 3 21 7.0 13 0
R.Cartwright 5 20 4.0 16 0[/quote]

pretty identicle, but ganther has the edge on pass blocking, the more i hear about this it seems like it is somthing rock might be blowing out of proportion. from everything i've heard it's that ganther will get "the first carry" nothing along the lines of ganther will play and rock won't.

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I like Rock a whole lot, but sadly i feel like he's too old for them to give him the chance to be feature back now. I mean Portis may never play for us again, and you'd think Rock gets his chance with Betts being gone, but you never know.

What it's gonna come down to is who has the better game between Rock and Quinton.

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[quote=Eknox;637490]If so please let it be CJ Spiller he's a beast.[/quote]

I'm not for us drafting a RB in the 1st or 2nd rounds but I'd LOVE to see Spiller in a Redskins uni.

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[quote=Paintrain;637839]I'm not for us drafting a RB in the 1st or 2nd rounds but I'd LOVE to see Spiller in a Redskins uni.[/quote]

have you seen noel devine? i think he'll be equal to spilller but available in the 4th/5th round

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I've picked up Ganther for fantasy football. Looking to start the guy at the flex position. Saw his six yards per carry average and thought it was a good idea ... until I started reading this thread that is.

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I was thinking this morning...perhaps the reason for Ganther getting the start has MORE to do with Devin Thomas becoming our top WR now and going foward than it does the performances of Rock and Quinton.

Obviously, we're not going to risk our top WR on kickoff duties, so Rock was placed back on KOs which increased his workload, so by default, Ganther became the starting RB.

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[quote=Buster;638125]I was thinking this morning...perhaps the reason for Ganther getting the start has MORE to do with Devin Thomas becoming our top WR now and going foward than it does the performances of Rock and Quinton.

Obviously, we're not going to risk our top WR on kickoff duties, so Rock was placed back on KOs which increased his workload, so by default, Ganther became the starting RB.[/quote]

Rock's not even starting at KR from what I understand

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[quote=Paintrain;637839]I'm not for us drafting a RB in the 1st or 2nd rounds but I'd LOVE to see Spiller in a Redskins uni.[/quote]

Agreed. Unfortunately I think we will take a QB, but I would love to see the Redskins trade down and pick up additional picks and go offensive line. What about UT running back Montario Hardesty? he may fall to second or third round?

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[quote=SmootSmack;638133]Rock's not even starting at KR from what I understand[/quote]
[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=125"]Rock Cartwright[/URL]

According to these sources, he is.


[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/dec/10/new-start-for-redskins-ganther/]New start for Redskins' Ganther - Washington Times[/url]

[quote]Cartwright asked special teams coach Danny Smith to return him to full-time special teams duty now that he's a backup on offense again.[/quote]

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Yeah that's what he wants, but I don't think that's what's going to happen. If I can find any link I'll post it

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Could be a wait-and-see for us...we never know who's returning anyways...always a lot of rumors and possibilities, but ARE still gets shots along with DT, Moss, Hall, Rock...


Our bigger concern is...do we have anyone that can play fullback? Will be have to use Rock and Ganther on the field together? Yoder at FB? We've lost Sellers and his unused backup.

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[quote=Buster;638177]Could be a wait-and-see for us...we never know who's returning anyways...always a lot of rumors and possibilities, but ARE still gets shots along with DT, Moss, Hall, Rock...


Our bigger concern is...do we have anyone that can play fullback? Will be have to use Rock and Ganther on the field together? Yoder at FB? We've lost Sellers and his unused backup.[/quote]

I think Yoder will be the fullback for now.

Anyway, here you go

*WR Devin Thomas, not RB Rock Cartwright, will field the first kickoff against Oakland on Sunday, Zorn said. Cartwright had hoped to return to being the No. 1 kickoff returner after losing his starting running back spot. Cartwright still could return a kickoff or two.

[url=http://www.fredericksburg.com/blogs/view?blogger_id=40&p=1260478215]Fredericksburg.com - Blogs: Rich Campbell - Thursday quick hits[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;638179]I think Yoder will be the fullback for now.

Anyway, here you go

*WR Devin Thomas, not RB Rock Cartwright, [B]will field the first kickoff against Oakland on Sunday[/B], Zorn said. Cartwright had hoped to return to being the No. 1 kickoff returner after losing his starting running back spot. Cartwright still could return a kickoff or two.

[url=http://www.fredericksburg.com/blogs/view?blogger_id=40&p=1260478215]Fredericksburg.com - Blogs: Rich Campbell - Thursday quick hits[/url][/quote]

zorn seem to always says take the first snap, not start. i think rock and ganther will split carries and i doubt rock will be back on any kickoffs, atleast thats what i hope

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[I]*MLB London Fletcher was named the Redskins' representative to the USA Football/NFLPA All-Fundamentals team for his expertise in angle tackling[/I]

^nice

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Rock seems like he's starting to run out the clock: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/11/AR2009121102643.html?wprss=rss_sports/redskins]washingtonpost.com[/url]
"Me, personally, I've been here for eight years, and I really enjoy it here," Cartwright said. "But at the same time,[B] I think my time might be up here. So all I can do is go out and try to build a good résumé. That's by putting good stuff on film. That's all I'm going to try to do, and we'll see what happens.[/B]"

I'm not trying to pick on the man, but if certain other players said that, they would be ripped to pieces around here.

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[quote=Paintrain;638196]Rock seems like he's starting to run out the clock: [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/11/AR2009121102643.html?wprss=rss_sports/redskins]washingtonpost.com[/url]
"Me, personally, I've been here for eight years, and I really enjoy it here," Cartwright said. "But at the same time,[B] I think my time might be up here. So all I can do is go out and try to build a good résumé. That's by putting good stuff on film. That's all I'm going to try to do, and we'll see what happens.[/B]"

I'm not trying to pick on the man, but if certain other players said that, they would be ripped to pieces around here.[/quote]

Seems like Rock always feels slighted about something. Yet he still goes out and gives 100%.

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according to wiki rock played fullback in college, any chance thats right

[I]Cartwright played college football at Kansas State University at the fullback position[/I]

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Cartwright]Rock Cartwright - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[quote=53Fan;638209]Seems like Rock always feels slighted about something. Yet he still goes out and gives 100%.[/quote]

Yeah, I agree.. I can't quarrel with the effort he gives on the field, I'm a little tired of his whining though.

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[quote=Paintrain;638228]Yeah, I agree.. I can't quarrel with the effort he gives on the field, I'm a little tired of his whining though.[/quote]

If you were in Rock's shoes you would be pissed too.
Rock gets the hard carries against the teams that have good run defenses.
When we face the one of the worst run defenses in the league Ganther gets the nod.
I hope both backs plays well.
[I][B]If [/B][/I]Rock gets his share of carries he's going to produce.

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[quote=30gut;638233]If you were in Rock's shoes you would be pissed too.
Rock gets the hard carries against the teams that have good run defenses.
When we face the one of the worst run defenses in the league Ganther gets the nod.
I hope both backs plays well.
[I][B]If [/B][/I]Rock gets his share of carries he's going to produce.[/quote]

IF his game was as good as his talk then some coach (Spurrier, Gibbs, Zorn) would have given him the chance to show it. He is what he is, know your limitations and excel within them.

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the one game where he got his chance, a couple of seasons ago. the skins vs. the rams in St. Louis. he had a helluva game. and that was the end of it. back to the bench

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Someone should post this id really like to know....Who was the best offseason Or mid-season pickup for the skins this year???????

OT Levi Brown??? The Offense and JC would probably say yes...

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[quote=Paintrain;638196]Rock seems like he's starting to run out the clock: [URL="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/11/AR2009121102643.html?wprss=rss_sports/redskins"]washingtonpost.com[/URL]
"Me, personally, I've been here for eight years, and I really enjoy it here," Cartwright said. "But at the same time,[B] I think my time might be up here. So all I can do is go out and try to build a good résumé. That's by putting good stuff on film. That's all I'm going to try to do, and we'll see what happens.[/B]"

I'm not trying to pick on the man, but if certain other players said that, they would be ripped to pieces around here.[/quote]
a little more from that article:



"I got one year left on my deal," he said. "I'm supposed to make a decent amount of money [$1.5 million in 2010]. Will they want to pay it? Probably not. They didn't want to pay my roster bonus early on in the year for $200,000. They wanted to get rid of me because of that. There's a lot of stuff that you have to take into consideration. Ultimately, I can't control it, so I'm not going to worry about it.



"Nobody knows what the future holds, but all you can continue to do is just go out and do what you can do to let people know that you want to be here. Ultimately, it's not up to you. . . . Hopefully, everybody's here after the season, but if not, you just got to continue to move forward and go somewhere else where you might be appreciated a little bit more."

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;638244]Someone should post this id really like to know....Who was the best offseason Or mid-season pickup for the skins this year???????

OT Levi Brown??? The Offense and JC would probably say yes...[/quote]
Levi Jones*

his game against the Eagles was horrible though

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[quote=ChickenMonkey;638244]Someone should post this id really like to know....Who was the best offseason Or mid-season pickup for the skins this year???????

OT Levi Brown??? The Offense and JC would probably say yes...[/quote]

Do draft picks count? Because then I'd have to say Brian Orakpo. Although, you can't deny Hunter's skills even with a bad groin all year

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12/04 @ STL W 24-9 9 118 13.1 52 0 long
i guess that was longer ago then i thought. stats from 2005 Rams game