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[quote=Schneed10;664019]LOL at this thread.

If you dig this thread up a year from now and read it really closely, guaranteed you'll laugh your ass off![/quote]

[B]Especially if firstdown has been missing from the board for a while. [/B]

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I do have people, but not because of this place. Believe me I wish I had that problem.

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[quote=Schneed10;664019]LOL at this thread.

If you dig this thread up a year from now and read it really closely, guaranteed you'll laugh your ass off![/quote]

Perhaps . . . perhaps not.

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[quote=Mattyk;664117]I do have people, but not because of this place. Believe me I wish I had that problem.[/quote]

I am people. Too bad you'd have to pay for my fuel and lodging, or I'd give you a Redskins discount.

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I sell professional tax software for a living. Thankfully Mo Money Taxes is not a customer (but with 250 locations I will give him a call thanks for the lead.) Their website is down now which is a little scary, but to be honest most preparers are including CPAs. If I can answer your tax question you should not be paid to prepare someone else's return and I can answer most of them.

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Didn't Wesley Snipes use Mo Money Taxes services?

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[quote=Player_HTTR;664194]I sell professional tax software for a living. Thankfully Mo Money Taxes is not a customer (but with 250 locations I will give him a call thanks for the lead.) Their website is down now which is a little scary, but to be honest most preparers are including CPAs. If I can answer your tax question you should not be paid to prepare someone else's return and I can answer most of them.[/quote]

I'll be more than happy to collect a finder's fee.

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[quote=tryfuhl;664202]I'll be more than happy to collect a finder's fee.[/quote]

I'd be more than happy to give you one. I stuck these guys in the Lead Database, pissed on my territory, and emailed the clips in the office(not alot going on this time of year as far as New Sales). Evidently, we have had some contact with them in the past and have tried to stay away from them.

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[quote=Player_HTTR;664205]I'd be more than happy to give you one. I stuck these guys in the Lead Database, pissed on my territory, and emailed the clips in the office(not alot going on this time of year as far as New Sales). Evidently, we have had some contact with them in the past and have tried to stay away from them.[/quote]

Can't say that I'm overly surprised.

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Me neither. But I get paid on New Business not good business.

Just kidding these guys don't look like the would be worth the headache.

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[quote=saden1;664199]Didn't Wesley Snipes use Mo Money Taxes services?[/quote]

There you go talking smack about my boy Blade! That was his money!

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[quote=Trample the Elderly;664225]There you go talking smack about my boy Blade! That was his money![/quote]

Only whatever is left over after Uncle Sam gets what belongs to him. You should take a cue from Mr. Snipes and size up Uncle Sam.

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[url=http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_22/b4180032368610.htm]IRS Seeks a Road Map to Aggressive Deductions - BusinessWeek[/url]

IRS Commissioner Doug Shulman says tax auditors waste more than 25 percent of their time combing through thousands of pages of corporate returns to spot errors and challenge deductions. Now he's sparked an uproar by asking companies to do a lot of that work for him.
Shulman wants those with $10 million or more in assets to provide the IRS with a road map of what to look for in their returns. A rule proposed on Apr. 19 would require companies to list all tax-saving transactions that might be challenged—along with the maximum they would owe if the IRS won on every issue. Comments from the public are due by June 1, after which the IRS could adopt the rule as final. The new form, Shulman told corporate tax executives in Washington last month, would be "a game-changer with respect to our relationships with and responsibility to our large corporate taxpayers."

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I didn't want to start a thread on this, so I guess this is the best place.

If the FTC and Obama Admin have their way, we'll be looking at an extra 5% tax on all the cool new TVs and gadgets to pay for the failing newspaper industry. Nothing like gov't control in journalism, I guess it's payback for all the favorable press and support from the NY Times, LA Times, and Huffing....oops..Washington Post.

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/02/journalism-reinvention-smacks-government-control-critics-say/?test=latestnews"]FOXNews.com - Journalism 'Reinvention' Smacks of Government Control, Critics Say[/URL]

"- a 5 percent tax on consumer electronics, which would generate roughly $4 billion annually, to pay for increased public funding."

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;704911]I didn't want to start a thread on this, so I guess this is the best place.

If the FTC and Obama Admin have their way, we'll be looking at an extra 5% tax on all the cool new TVs and gadgets to pay for the failing newspaper industry. Nothing like gov't control in journalism, I guess it's payback for all the favorable press and support from the NY Times, LA Times, and Huffing....oops..Washington Post.

[URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/02/journalism-reinvention-smacks-government-control-critics-say/?test=latestnews"]FOXNews.com - Journalism 'Reinvention' Smacks of Government Control, Critics Say[/URL]

"- a 5 percent tax on consumer electronics, which would generate roughly $4 billion annually, to pay for increased public funding."[/quote]
..... Maybe I won't be buying that Blackberry after all .

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[quote=budw38;704985]..... Maybe I won't be buying that Blackberry after all .[/quote]Just buy it now. If the Rs don't get control of at least one house of Congress in Nov. expect it to become reality.

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I remember taking income tax in college. God that was a horrible class. I could never figure out how to deduct for hobbies or businesses. In fact that class is part of the reason I changed my major.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;704998]I remember taking income tax in college. God that was a horrible class. I could never figure out how to deduct for hobbies or businesses. In fact that class is part of the reason I changed my major.[/quote]

Read my first post, the whole business vs hobby rules made a lasting impact in my perception of our government.

I was also originally a accounting major but i was going to graduate right around the cut off to qualify to sit for the CPA with just a undergraduate degree (now you have to have 150 credit hours). One of the worst mistakes ive ever made, i really loved accounting back in the day and wish i just went ahead with it. I would have missed the cutoff by 2 classes, but i ended up graduating with a whole lot more then just the 120 i thought i was gonna have. Hindsight usually sucks.....

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Absolutely, I hate Taxes. I hate everything about Taxes. You know what they say.....

Only 2 things come from Taxes, Steers and Queers.

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[quote=SBXVII;705092]Absolutely, I hate Taxes. I hate everything about Taxes. You know what they say.....

Only 2 things come from Taxes, Steers and Queers.[/quote]

I thought that was from Texas, off of full metal jacket.

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[quote=joethiesmanfan;705106]I thought that was from Texas, off of full metal jacket.[/quote]

Partial credit. right state, wrong movie (An Officer and a Gentleman).

EDIT: Damn! It was from Full Metal Jacket also. Full credit is awarded and now I'm a jackass.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Obviously most people here are gonna be against an internet tax, but whats your reasoning for being anti-internet tax?[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][URL="http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/27/should-government-tax-email/"][COLOR=#990000][URL]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/27/should-government-tax-email/[/URL][/COLOR][/URL][/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]As the article notes, your property is taxed, your income is taxed, your investments are taxed; so should your emails/bit use be taxed?[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]f you are anti-internet tax, are you also anti-property or income or investment taxes as well? If not, why?[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Im thinking we will see an internet tax of some sort within 15 years. A transparent tax would be too difficult to put into action and too cumbersome to collect on. My guess is that we will see a VAT/excise style of tax thats tiered and is enforced at the internet service provider level. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]If history prevails, initially only the top users of the internet will be subject to the tax, although one can only assume it will be applied to smaller users as time goes on.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I suspect once the government has a financial interest in the internet, it will also become easier for them to justify the use of regulation to protect those interest. Kind of like federal highway laws and regulations applied to reimbursements from taxes, except in this case they could be called federal “information highway” regulations.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Finally i suspect, certain users (large corporations) will in time get tax credits that are linked to internet costs/taxes (think GE or big oil with the tax credits they are entitled to now). [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I think the saying goes, if its moving tax it, if its still moving regulate it, once it stops moving subsidize it. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Your thoughts?[/FONT][/COLOR]

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If you shop on line your all ready taking advantage of the tax laws.

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Found this article today, and it's pretty interesting. How TurboTax has been lobbying hard to keep from the automated type of tax filing many other countries see.

Personally, I'd love to see something like England where you get basically a tax code, everything comes directly out of the check. If you get overcharged, you can get it back, if you get undercharged, the gov't sucks it up.

[url=http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/03/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-fought-free-simple-tax-filing/]How the maker of TurboTax fought free, simple tax filing | Ars Technica[/url]

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[quote=firstdown;1000559]If you shop on line your all ready taking advantage of the tax laws.[/quote]

Not in CA.

:soapbox:

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[quote=firstdown;1000559]If you shop on line your all ready taking advantage of the tax laws.[/quote]

The sales tax thing isnt gonna last much longer. In VA sales tax on purchases from Amazon will start in i think October. We will probably see a state sales tax for almost everything on the internet within the next 5 or so years.

An indirect federal bit or email or data tax will come after the sales tax thing gets sorted out. My guess is in about 15 years.

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[quote=Daseal;1000564]Found this article today, and it's pretty interesting. How TurboTax has been lobbying hard to keep from the automated type of tax filing many other countries see.

Personally, I'd love to see something like England where you get basically a tax code, everything comes directly out of the check. If you get overcharged, you can get it back, if you get undercharged, the gov't sucks it up.

[URL="http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/03/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-fought-free-simple-tax-filing/"]How the maker of TurboTax fought free, simple tax filing | Ars Technica[/URL][/quote]


From the article:

[quote]It's already a reality in [URL="http://www.oecd.org/tax/taxadministration/36280368.pdf"][COLOR=#0066cc]Denmark, Sweden, and Spain[/COLOR][/URL]. The government-prepared return would estimate your taxes using information your employer and bank already send it. Advocates say tens of millions of taxpayers could use such a system each year, saving them a collective $2 billion and 225 million hours in prep costs and time, according to one estimate.[/quote]

Oddly, Denmark, Sweeden and Spain happen to have the 2nd, 3rd and 6th highest marginal tax rate in the world, respecitively. The UK comes in at the 8th highest. If it wasnt for socialist French president Francois Hollande and his 75% tax rate, you might even be able to move each country up a nouch. Perhaps making it easy for someone to take your money allows you to be complacent with them taking even more of it?

It would be nice if the tax code was so simple you didnt need Quicken, an accountant, or the Goverment to do it for you. Im sure Quicken was against Herman Cain's idea too.

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[quote=mlmpetert;1000579]The sales tax thing isnt gonna last much longer. In VA sales tax on purchases from Amazon will start in i think October. We will probably see a state sales tax for almost everything on the internet within the next 5 or so years.

An indirect federal bit or email or data tax will come after the sales tax thing gets sorted out. My guess is in about 15 years.[/quote]


That's when internet sales are going to plummet.

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[quote=mlmpetert;1000632]From the article:



Oddly, Denmark, Sweeden and Spain happen to have the 2nd, 3rd and 6th highest marginal tax rate in the world, respecitively. The UK comes in at the 8th highest. If it wasnt for socialist French president Francois Hollande and his 75% tax rate, you might even be able to move each country up a nouch. Perhaps making it easy for someone to take your money allows you to be complacent with them taking even more of it?

It would be nice if the tax code was so simple you didnt need Quicken, an accountant, or the Goverment to do it for you. Im sure Quicken was against Herman Cain's idea too.[/quote]

Your post and my post have nothing to do with each other. The fact is this is an easy to implement and convenient feature that most people could use to file their taxes. It is heavily opposed by folks in the tax business (obviously) the problem is that our politicians are more empathetic to what these huge businesses want than what is best for our nation.

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[quote=Daseal;1000564]Found this article today, and it's pretty interesting. How TurboTax has been lobbying hard to keep from the automated type of tax filing many other countries see.

Personally, I'd love to see something like England where you get basically a tax code, everything comes directly out of the check. If you get overcharged, you can get it back, if you get undercharged, the gov't sucks it up.

[URL="http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/03/how-the-maker-of-turbotax-fought-free-simple-tax-filing/"]How the maker of TurboTax fought free, simple tax filing | Ars Technica[/URL][/quote]

That's the worse thing we could have. I personally think everyone should have to pay their own taxes either quartley or monthly. Then people would start to actually feel the pain and realize how much they pay in taxes each month. Ask 90% of the people and they cannot tell you what they pay in taxes because the goverment forces the employers to do their dirty work. Out of site out of mind. I have to pay federal and state taxes monthly and can tell you what I pay in SS, Federal witholding, and Medicare. Might be why I'm against any tax increases because I see first hand what I pay and my guess why the goverment forces employers to collect their taxes.