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[quote=SmootSmack;684348]
Now AH and Rogers to St. Louis for Carriker, Atogwe, and the #33 overall....I'd consider that.[/quote]

Would St. Louis consider it?

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I dont think it is fact that Haynesworth refuses to play in a 3-4, I think he just doesnt want to play NT.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;684336]Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.[/quote]


Totally agree.....

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My attitude is if Donovan McNabb just stood at podium and declared he's a Redskin, any f*ckin thing can happen.

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maybe tampa bay would want haynesworth for their second and another pick, or for donald penn straight up

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[quote=Mattyk;684352]They just tried to trade him to the Eagles... what's stopping them from trading him to NY?[/quote]
We didn't want Eli

I don't know

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[quote=Dirtbag359;684353]Would St. Louis consider it?[/quote]

Probably not

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;684336]Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.[/quote]

No one is giving us a first and second for him.

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[quote=GMScud;684388]No one is giving us a first and second for him.[/quote]

That's why there's the clause "equivalent value, or better". People remember only his theatrics, but not 99% of the other plays he played on or that he defied orders in order to sack Sheli.

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Anybody think the raiders would give us their first for a Late round pick, Campbell and Haynesworth? If so im all for it.

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[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AlY6B0x9sidhT1A.CtPjfTM5nYcB?slug=jc-directsnap040610]Redskins very unlikely to move Haynesworth - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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[quote=REDSKINZ-RIDEORDIE;684329]Who's going to put him on his back? Rabach???


Dam that, dont let Haynesworth go ANYWHERE....If we do get rid of him, we better dam well get a GREAT return. We better not trade that dude for no dam Adam Carriker....Haynesworth better retire as a Redskin. We shouldnt even be converting to a 3-4 anyway.[/quote]

Agree, make AH fit he's a BEAST. Imagine he's our right DE in a 3-4 WOW.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;684336]Haynesworth for a 1st and 2nd round pick, the equivalent value-wise, or better.[/quote]

If we did trade him that's the only way we should let him go and both picks have to be in the same draft.

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He will be a Redskin this year .. you don't pay a 21 million dollar bonus no matter who you are (The Danny) .. that is way to high of a bonus to just piss off to the side .. that being said if he is a cancer to us then good bye Albert I just don't see it happening

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If AH was traded now, unless someone paid the skins then he would have played 1 year for 32 mil! I think the only way anyone was going to take him before the $21 mil bonus was if he was packaged w/LL, JC, etc. but nobody was going to pay that bonus for him.

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[quote=12thMan;684359]My attitude is if Donovan McNabb just stood at podium and declared he's a Redskin, any f*ckin thing can happen.[/quote]


Totally agree, it's not going to hit me until I see him coming out on opening day for us.....Even then I wont believe it until I see him throw his first pass.....

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[quote=Pocket$ $traight;684159]He will probably end up a Giant and destroy us everytime we play.[/quote]


.......................oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhelllllllll NO!

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[quote=Mattyk;684352]They just tried to trade him to the Eagles... what's stopping them from trading him to NY?[/quote]

Teams love his talent but dislike his work ethic.To answer your question AH ...is stopping AH from being traded.

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[quote=Giantone;684456]Teams love his talent but dislike his work ethic.To answer your question AH ...is stopping AH from being traded.[/quote]
well it was his bonus

now it depends

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Now this from Jason Reid:

Redskins actively seek to trade Albert Haynesworth

Despite recently cutting one of the largest checks in NFL history to pay defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth's bonus, the Redskins are actively attempting to trade him before the April 22 draft, people familiar with the situation said Tuesday.

Coach Mike Shanahan has instructed General Manager Bruce Allen to identify potential destinations for Haynesworth, to whom the Redskins paid a $21 million bonus on April 1, and the Redskins have talked with multiple teams about the eight-year veteran. The Redskins did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans - whom Haynesworth left to join the Redskins before the 2009 season for $41 million guaranteed - are among the teams that could be interested in acquiring Haynesworth. In his first season in Washington last season, Haynesworth was slowed by injuries and not in top physical condition.

During their pursuit of quarterback Donovan McNabb, the Redskins included Haynesworth in trade talks with the Philadelphia Eagles. Washington acquired McNabb for a second-round pick this season and either a third- or fourth-round pick, based on McNabb's performance during this season, in the 2011 draft.

Shanahan's desire to excise Haynesworth from the roster stems from Haynesworth's reluctance to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 scheme and his decision to train individually instead of participating in the voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park. Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.

In the first 14 months of his contract, Haynesworth has been paid $32 million. Under the terms of his contract, Haynesworth is guaranteed another $9 million.

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[quote=Giantone;684456]Teams love his talent but dislike his work ethic.To answer your question AH ...is stopping AH from being traded.[/quote]

If memory serves, the G-men were trying to sign AH at the same time that the Skins were. Don't act like your team is totally uninterested in him.

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dang!! I saw this thread and was hoping like crazy it was true. But im calling bs. I dont think a team will touch this cancer.

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[quote=Lotus;684500]If memory serves, the G-men were trying to sign AH at the same time that the Skins were. Don't act like your team is totally uninterested in him.[/quote]

No act,the Giants solved there problems last year,they just need the players they have to stay healthy.Yup the Giants went after old AH but after seeing how he was with you guys after getting the big money.....you can keep him.

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[quote=Giantone;684448].......................oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhelllllllll NO![/quote]

Don't worry, he'll help you guys sweep us again. He takes the double team and everyone else you have goes man-on-man against the likes of Mike Williams, Stephon Heyer, and Artis Hicks.

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What about the Vikings? Isn't Pat Williams planning on retiring soon?

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Aside from his work ethic and occasional shitty attitude -- what is it exactly that most people don't like about AH?

Do we really just want a clean slate? Is it that he's the last expensive, overblown, cap-eating, waste left to us by Vinny?

And, more importantly, is it possible that our run defense might just suffer without him?

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[quote=Beemnseven;684534]Aside from his work ethic and occasional shitty attitude -- what is it exactly that most people don't like about AH?

Do we really just want a clean slate? Is it that he's the last expensive, overblown, cap-eating, waste left to us by Vinny?

And, more importantly, is it possible that our run defense might just suffer without him?[/quote]


The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans - whom Haynesworth left to join the Redskins before the 2009 season for $41 million guaranteed - are among the teams that could be interested in acquiring Haynesworth. In his first season in Washington last season, Haynesworth was slowed by injuries and not in top physical condition.

Shanahan's desire to excise Haynesworth from the roster stems from Haynesworth's reluctance to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 scheme and his decision to train individually instead of participating in the voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park. Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684537]The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans - whom Haynesworth left to join the Redskins before the 2009 season for $41 million guaranteed - are among the teams that could be interested in acquiring Haynesworth. In his first season in Washington last season, Haynesworth was slowed by injuries and not in top physical condition.

Shanahan's desire to excise Haynesworth from the roster stems from Haynesworth's reluctance to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 scheme and his decision to train individually instead of participating in the voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park. Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.[/quote]

Wow. Very thorough. Thank you.

Personally, I wouldn't be shedding any tears to see him go either. Just interested in what people thought.

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[quote=Beemnseven;684539]Wow. Very thorough. Thank you.

Personally, I wouldn't be shedding any tears to see him go either. Just interested in what people thought.[/quote]

That was from Jason Reid.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;684537]The Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Jacksonville Jaguars and Tennessee Titans - whom Haynesworth left to join the Redskins before the 2009 season for $41 million guaranteed - are among the teams that could be interested in acquiring Haynesworth. In his first season in Washington last season, Haynesworth was slowed by injuries and not in top physical condition.

Shanahan's desire to excise Haynesworth from the roster stems from Haynesworth's reluctance to play nose tackle in the Redskins' new 3-4 scheme and his decision to train individually instead of participating in the voluntary offseason conditioning program at Redskins Park. Although Haynesworth only appeared in 12 games last season, he participated in the second-highest total of plays among Redskins defensive linemen.[/quote]
usually a good idea to source your copy/pastes

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Didn't they just sign the guy from Carolina to play NT? Is AH's role even defined yet? I just don't understand why he's not on board. Kris Jenkins was a 4-3 DT, came to the Jets and didn't have a problem playing NT. I just think if he was a true team guy he'd do what ever they asked him to do.

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He said that he would do just that skinsfan

I know that Shanahan wants him there but at least Al had a good excuse.. he needed more one-on-one and specialized assistance to get back into form. The guy last year said he wanted to be able to earn his contract and didn't feel like he was put into the right position to do it. He said he's not getting paid all of that money to not be more productive. Then this offseason he makes a commitment to return to form and says that he'll do what they ask of him. Mentioned DE would be a good fit since it's so similar to DT in the 4-3. Yet he's a fat, piece of shit, cancer that we need to get rid of people?

The guy saw our offseason program last year and probably wanted nothing of it. Of course that's different now but I'm sure that he already had things lined up for his training well before all of this.

If he shows up out of shape then it's an issue.

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Haynesworth to report to the April 16-18 minicamp

[URL="http://twitter.com/JReidPost/status/11720783764"]Twitter / Jason Reid: Defensive tackle Albert Ha ...[/URL]

Read something earlier that when someone called to ask him about trade to Philly potential he said "I got nothing for you man" and Speck also talked to them and said that they had no comment.

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[quote=tryfuhl;684569]Haynesworth to report to the April 16-18 minicamp

[URL="http://twitter.com/JReidPost/status/11720783764"]Twitter / Jason Reid: Defensive tackle Albert Ha ...[/URL]

Read something earlier that when someone called to ask him about trade to Philly potential he said "I got nothing for you man" and Speck also talked to them and said that they had no comment.[/quote]

If Haynesworth reportedly has such a problem with the new regime, then how come he's not lashing out the way he did towards the end of the Zorn/Blache regime? He has nothing to lose, and all that would lead to is a trade.

I still haven't seen any credible source to say that there's such a rift. While they may not be buddies, I still think this whole "issue" has just been overblown by Florio and his buddy LaCanfora.

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Ithink he will stay, and hopefully the guy steps the fuck up and plays......

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I think the Titans would like to get him back, the Skins have already paid the major bucks on his contract. This deal would be very fair:

Haynesworth to the Tennessee Titans for their 2010 #3 (77th overall) and their 2011 first round pick.

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The below article has a interesting paragraph: "[U]So what would it take to land perhaps the best defensive tackle in the league? I think a team such as the Titans could potentially get it done for a second- and fourth-round pick. That's how much Shanahan wants to get rid of Haynesworth. Pretty amazing stuff[/U]."

If they do this we would be getting ripped apart.

[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/21245/albert-haynesworth-a-goner-with-redskins]Albert Haynesworth a goner with Redskins? - NFL Nation Blog - ESPN[/url]

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People quickly forget how much they bitched when the team made Orakpo play LB in our 4-3 D. Granted that he did a good job, but I'm sure he would have done a much better job as a 4-3 DE. I see a very similar situation here with Haynesworth, and I hope Shanahan doesn't trade him just because of this. I guess this would be one of those head-scratching moves some people were talking about.

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According to The Warpath's favorite rumor mill website, PFT reports that at this point Haynesworth's contract is essentially 3 year, $16M, with $9M of that guaranteed.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/04/06/at-three-years-and-16-million-haynesworth-contract-is-now-very-tradeable/]At three years and $16 million, Haynesworth contract is now very tradeable | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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I hope they don't trade him, allow him to come to the April camp see how he looks if he's really been working out then make him fit.