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[quote=firstdown;699665]You guys sound like a women complaining about not getting what she wanted for her birthday. If he shows up and is out of shape come game day then bitch all you want but for now lets wait and see. Last season people bitched because they said he took to many plays off and was out of shape. Now that he says hea is working hard to get into shape the same people are bitching. If you reply to this post while at home maybe you should volunteer and go into work today.[/quote]
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[quote=Mattyk;699386]At this point all I care about is that he shows for MANDATORY camps.[/quote]

for the most part i feel the same way, but you and i both know that a every camp is viewed as mandatory by the coaching staff. it will be interesting to see how he looks when he gets here and see how he adjusts to the new system.

thats my :twocents: for this haynesworth thread

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[quote=firstdown;699665]You guys sound like a women complaining about not getting what she wanted for her birthday. If he shows up and is out of shape come game day then bitch all you want but for now lets wait and see. Last season people bitched because they said he took to many plays off and was out of shape. Now that he says hea is working hard to get into shape the same people are bitching. If you reply to this post while at home maybe you should volunteer and go into work today.[/quote]

The strange dichotomy of the professional football player: part independent contractor, part union employee. As an independent contractor, Haynesworth got himself a sweet deal and now, as a union employee he has apparently decided to work only to the specifications of his contract. That is his right. I don't dispute that.

On the other hand, being a good teammate takes more than a "meets minimum" effort. All he had to do was to take a few days away from his training to join his teammates in a short learning and practicing camp. It would have cost him nothing, as far as his training regimen is concerned.

Plus he may have learned something and he might even have been able to help a teammate or two learn something, as well. If he didn't want to help out the team by giving some tips to younger players, perhaps he could have made himself useful by spotting for a teammate who was doing bench reps or by picking up a towel and putting it in a laundry basket. He could have done something, anything, to help out someone else on the team if he cared anything at all about the team. But he couldn't be bothered to do anything to help a single teammate. That's why I said that he is behaving selfishly.

Your analogy about a Haynesworth critic coming in on weekends is way off base. Nevertheless, I'll try to enlighten you on that point. When I was working (I'm retired) I went into the office on many weekends, just as, I'd bet, many of the folks on this board do or have done. Not only that, but I went into the office Monday through Friday, too. And I worked more than an 8 hour day more often than not. I also took work home and did it on my own time.

And, before you think I'm being self-congrtulatory, I don't think that I did anything special. Most Americans work very hard all year long. But even all that work doesn't usually solve their money problems. In fact, many Americans are forced to work more than one job just to make ends meet. And some of those people may never be able to send their kids to college or to retire.

And, in view of that, you want me to think it's a big deal for a man who has already been paid $32,000,000 by his employer for less than two years of work, a man who is set for life due to that employer, to show enough appreciation for all that has been done for him and his family to come to work for 3 days? If you don't think that he is acting like an ingrate, then I think that you need to re-examine either your position on Haynesworth coming to mini-camp or your value system.

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[quote=Lotus;699640]AH for Phil Loadholt, Erin Henderson, and a 2nd round pick.[/quote]

I'd be ok with this...the Vikings wouldn't go for it though.

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[quote=firstdown;699665]You guys sound like a women complaining about not getting what she wanted for her birthday. If he shows up and is out of shape come game day then bitch all you want but for now lets wait and see. Last season people bitched because they said he took to many plays off and was out of shape. Now that he says hea is working hard to get into shape the same people are bitching. If you reply to this post while at home maybe you should volunteer and go into work today.[/quote]

Somehow I never feel comfortable agreeing w/ firstdown even when he's 100% right :)

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Keep in mind that they paid this guy $100M last year. He is behaving beyond selfish. That is just him. He was a real you know what with the Titans.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;699637]It's time to let this guy go, I'm so tired of hearing about Haynesworth not willing to play in a 3-4.. Please Allen/Shanny cut ties with him now before he becomes an even bigger distraction. (Maybe for Cedric Griffen) OK that's wishful thinking[/quote]
link to reputable source?

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[quote=JPPT1974;699742]Keep in mind that they paid this guy $100M last year. He is behaving beyond selfish. That is just him. He was a real you know what with the Titans.[/quote]
what?

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[quote=JPPT1974;699742][B]Keep in mind that they paid this guy $100M last year[/B]. He is behaving beyond selfish. That is just him. He was a real you know what with the Titans.[/quote]

Selfish and I would say asshole is about correct. Did he get 100m last year your definitely in AZ. with that math. At this point he has received ~30 mil for less than one years output. Which is a joke. This clown is laughing all the way to the bank. A lot of folks expected this exact outcome.

Will we ever get much return outta this guy it certainly doesn't appear that way. The jury is out and I hope for the best for the REDSKINS as he is a difference maker when on the field, but he clearly doesn't like the 34 and/or nose and a lot of other things and reading between the lines I would bet Shanny/Bruce would love to give fat al a one way ticket outta DC. And I would not count that out before mandatory OTA's or before the season begins.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;699746]Selfish and I would say asshole is about correct. Did he get 100m last year your definitely in AZ. with that math. At this point he has received ~30 mil for less than one years output. Which is a joke. This clown is laughing all the way to the bank. A lot of folks expected this exact outcome.

Will we ever get much return outta this guy it certainly doesn't appear that way. The jury is out and I hope for the best for the REDSKINS as he is a difference maker when on the field, but he clearly doesn't like the 34 and/or nose and a lot of other things and reading between the lines I would bet Shanny/Bruce would love to give fat al a one way ticket outta DC. And I would not count that out before mandatory OTA's or before the season begins.[/quote]
Yeah the way he's playing in the 3-4 you can tell that his heart isn't in it.

Wait.. what?

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Can't wait for this season to begin with or once without him. BUT once he comes into Mandatory workouts he will step in line. I don't give a shit what the so called media says. He isn't happy about the 3-4, well maybe he should come in and find out what position he will actually be playing. Just move on till this is a real story. He isn;t here. There are a bunch of guys who are though.

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I still think that if there is a disagreement between AH and MS, things would have been much better if both sides had a mutual conversation.

Haynesworth is a downfield pass rusher. Using him as a space eating NT is just as ridiculous as using Orakpo as a 4-3 OLB or using Landry as a FS. The whole using AH as a NT goes along with the issue of why are we trying to run a 3-4 defense when we don't have the personnel to do so. Everyone bitches at AH because they are still sulking b/c stupid ass Vinny gave him 100 mil contract. Yet they disregard the fact that this move to the 3-4 is risky with the personnel we have.

Had there been some type of dialogue, then the appearance of a rift between AH and the team would not have happened. And it would have put the Redskins into a better position of negotiating a Haynesworth trade to a team with a 4-3 defense. Instead, there appears to be the perception that the Redskins have a problem, and it could be the reason why teams may have been low balling the Redskins in a possible trade.

Personally, the best thing for the team to happen is for AH to show up in shape (he has to be leaner if he wants to sell the idea of being a 3-4 DE) and for Shanahan to put him as a DE in our 3-4 defense.

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it'd be silly to release him...so if that's what you are hoping just stop thinking it right now cause it's not going to happen.

Also, if we were to do anything...which we won't cause he'll be a Skin next year no doubt..is trade him for a 1st rounder...or a 2nd rounder packaged with a stud.

other than that, you don't just trade(or let go for f's sake) TOP TIER DT's in the game for nothing!

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[quote=Ruhskins;699758].

Had there been some type of dialogue, then the appearance of a rift between AH and the team would not have happened. And it would have put the Redskins into a better position of negotiating a Haynesworth trade to a team with a 4-3 defense. Instead, there appears to be the perception that the Redskins have a problem, and it could be the reason why teams may have been low balling the Redskins in a possible trade.
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Looking at it strickly as a business ,doesn't AH need to take responsability also if there is no or has'nt been any dialogue as you say?He didn't like the Coachs last year and doesn't seem to like these guys or their scheme I ask becuase I feel we have the same problem with OSI,he just needs to shut up play better and do what the coaches want.(Osi that is)

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[quote=Giantone;699761]Looking at it strickly as a business ,doesn't AH need to take responsability also if there is no or has'nt been any dialogue as you say?He didn't like the Coachs last year and doesn't seem to like these guys or their scheme I ask becuase I feel we have the same problem with OSI,he just needs to shut up play better and do what the coaches want.(Osi that is)[/quote]
Yeah I'm drinking too.

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[quote=tryfuhl;699762]Yeah I'm drinking too.[/quote]

for real...this dudes post are absurd. can't spell, and doesn't know how to space after sentences...must be a NY Giants fan thing?

GiantsOne...run a spell check! If you are going to post slop for people to read on a REDSKINS fan site...at least make it legible for us so we can bash you back.

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[quote=Ruhskins;699758]I still think that if there is a disagreement between AH and MS, [B]things would have been much better if both sides had a mutual conversation[/B].

Haynesworth is a downfield pass rusher. Using him as a space eating NT is just as ridiculous as using Orakpo as a 4-3 OLB or using Landry as a FS. The whole using AH as a NT goes along with the issue of why are we trying to run a 3-4 defense when we don't have the personnel to do so. Everyone bitches at AH because they are still sulking b/c stupid ass Vinny gave him 100 mil contract. Yet they disregard the fact that this move to the 3-4 is risky with the personnel we have.

Had there been some type of dialogue, [B]then the appearance of a rift between AH and the team would not have happened[/B]. And it would have put the Redskins into a better position of negotiating a Haynesworth trade to a team with a 4-3 defense. Instead, there appears to be the perception that the Redskins have a problem, and it could be the reason why teams may have been low balling the Redskins in a possible trade.

Personally, the best thing for the team to happen is for AH to show up in shape (he has to be leaner if he wants to sell the idea of being a 3-4 DE) and for Shanahan to put him as a DE in our 3-4 defense.[/quote]
The crazy thing is, both sides say there has been ongoing dialogue. Mike Shanahan referenced Shannon Sharpe as a player who trained on his own, and MS said he always expected him to come in ready and at Sharpe's best. He also said he hopes that AH does the same. If he said he had no complaints about AH being there he would be lying, but I have no doubt he also knows what AH can do IF he shows up in shape.
The biggest thing is that this is DC, and the media is going to portray an appearance of a rift somehow. Granted AH not showing up is disappointing to us fans, but he is not putting out all sorts of disruptive sourced statements about stuff. He is doing his work, I assume, and for all those who have said for 100Million dollars he oughta blah blah blah... just look at this like he is telecommuting. Heck people can do their jobs from all over the country nowadays, so just count him as the Skins one telecommuter. (I assume he has the playbook, and can grasp the basics at this point in his career).

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Did you guys see this very interesting note from Phillip Daniels? According to him, he's been told that AH is not necessarily penciled in at NT, he might be playing some end. In reality, it's probably been the plan all along to move him back and forth from NT to end based on matchup, situation, etc.

But really, you're going to get your chance to make plays, you won't be a NT the entire time. And you still can't get here??

[QUOTE]"From what I'm told, he can play the end spot," Daniels said. "I've called him and told him that."[/QUOTE]

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050903014.html]washingtonpost.com[/url]

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Why is anyone surprised...it was well documented that he was a piece of s***. He stomped on another player's face, was never in shape, rarely got through a season because of his god-awful conditioning and should never have been signed. He's going to be here one more season and I hope we bounce his ass ASAP

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[quote=tryfuhl;699751]Yeah the way he's playing in the 3-4 you can tell that his heart isn't in it.

Wait.. what?[/quote]

i dont think its the 3-4 he is necessarily unhappy with, i think its the fact that he is due to make 3.8 mil this year and he thought by this time, after the draft, he would have already been shipped to a new team and would be negotiating a new contract for 8-10 mil a season.

Heard on the mike wise show phillip daniels called him before the draft to tell him the end spot is reserved for him. AH's response? yeah well see after the draft. Wise also said that shanny hasnt been in contact with him since he showed up that first day and the team used a vet leader like daniels (who has a good relationship with AH) to act as a median in getting the message to him.

i understand peoples position on this that we'll cross that bridge (what to do with AH) when we get to it but there are some seriously unprecendented things going on right now. the contract was absurdly frontloaded to a player with a rep for being motivated by only money.

i find the postering of both sides interesting. the new FO im sure wouldnt have done such a deal that left no monetary incentive for AH to play after the first 13 months. AH took the money with the expectation that he would be able to force his way out of it once he collected the 32 mil.

AH is set to make 3.8 mil this year. Im surprised so many on here dont take that into consideration for the way AH has acted the second the season ended.

IMO the 3-4 and other things are the only semi-legit "concerns" AH can put forth since he cant come out and say I dont want to play for 3.8 mil for the next 3 years (since he got paid 22 mil in April)

Im just surprised so few dont take into consideration that the real source of AH's malcontent is the remaining portion of his contract. If we had given him a reasonable normal contract which paid him 10 mil a season, I think he would be more willing to toe the company line.

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[quote=Schneed10;699831]Did you guys see this very interesting note from Phillip Daniels? According to him, he's been told that AH is not necessarily penciled in at NT, he might be playing some end. In reality, it's probably been the plan all along to move him back and forth from NT to end based on matchup, situation, etc.

But really, you're going to get your chance to make plays, you won't be a NT the entire time. And you still can't get here??



[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050903014.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

Also from Daniels: "There is no room for negotiation at 4-12 . . . It says this is voluntary . . . [but] after a 4-12 season, it's mandatory."

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[quote=Schneed10;699831]Did you guys see this very interesting note from Phillip Daniels? According to him, he's been told that AH is not necessarily penciled in at NT, he might be playing some end. In reality, it's probably been the plan all along to move him back and forth from NT to end based on matchup, situation, etc.

But really, you're going to get your chance to make plays, you won't be a NT the entire time. And you still can't get here??



[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/05/09/AR2010050903014.html]washingtonpost.com[/url][/quote]

Daniels did the same thing with Springs

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/04/springs-absence-angers-daniels/]Springs' absence angers Daniels - Washington Times[/url]

And here are the reasons why I don't think this is a big deal compared to the Springs situations, from the article:

[quote]Coach Jim Zorn said he hasn't heard from Springs. The cornerback's voice mailbox was full, and he didn't respond to a text message.[/quote]

[quote]Springs skipped almost all of the 2007 offseason to register his displeasure with the Redskins over their desire to rework his contract. He also missed this offseason's workouts until the mandatory minicamp May 2-4.[/quote]

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And what happened to springs after that?

Could you imagine what AH would do if we asked him to take a pay cut? hahaha

Hey albert I know your only making 3.8 mil this year and you consider yourself an all-pro player but, buddy old pal of mine, would you mind taking a pay cut for the benefit of the team?

ya know, that local team discount that brady did for the pats a couple years ago?

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[quote=Ruhskins;699840]Daniels did the same thing with Springs

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/jun/04/springs-absence-angers-daniels/]Springs' absence angers Daniels - Washington Times[/url]

[B]And here are the reasons why I don't think this is a big deal compared to the Springs situations[/B], from the article:[/quote]

I could give you approximately 35,000,000 reasons why it is.

Just think of it! How can you not be appalled by his behavior when he is already being paid a King's Ransom and he can't be bothered to show up for three days of work once or twice a month? I just don't see how that can be defended.

And please don't come back with the letter of the law union agreement argument because I doubt that the either the NFLPA or the owners could imagine a contract as front loaded as Haynesworth's when that agreement was signed. AH doesn't exactly need to go home to work a part-time job during the offseason to make ends meet, you know.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;699893]I could give you approximately 35,000,000 reasons why it is.

Just think of it! How can you not be appalled by his behavior when he is already being paid a King's Ransom and he can't be bothered to show up for three days of work once or twice a month? [B]I just don't see how that can be defended.
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And please don't come back with the letter of the law union agreement argument because I doubt that the either the NFLPA or the owners could imagine a contract as front loaded as Haynesworth's when that agreement was signed. AH doesn't exactly need to go home to work a part-time job during the offseason to make ends meet, you know.[/quote]

There is no reason to defend it, it is VOLUNTARY. Do you know what VOLUNTARY means? You guys got your panties in bunch because of how much is getting paid, so you expect him to be holding open the door for all of the other players. Get over his contract, the Redskins wrote it and he signed it. It is in the past.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;699893][B]I could give you approximately 35,000,000 reasons why it is. [/B]

Just think of it! How can you not be appalled by his behavior when he is already being paid a King's Ransom and he can't be bothered to show up for three days of work once or twice a month? I just don't see how that can be defended.

And please don't come back with the letter of the law union agreement argument because I doubt that the either the NFLPA or the owners could imagine a contract as front loaded as Haynesworth's when that agreement was signed. AH doesn't exactly need to go home to work a part-time job during the offseason to make ends meet, you know.[/quote]

Because Mike Florio and Jason LaCanfora say it is a big deal? :doh:

[quote=Defensewins;699897]There is no reason to defend it, it is VOLUNTARY. Do you know what VOLUNTARY means? You guys got your panties in bunch because of how much is getting paid, so you expect him to be holding open the door for all of the other players. [B]Get over his contract, the Redskins wrote it and he signed it. It is in the past.[/B][/quote]

Sadly, some people won't get over this. They are like bitter girlfriends, they are going to hold that grudge forever it seems.

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^LOL!
The Paparazzi of NFL writers. Didn't LaCanfora guarantee Haynesworth would get traded? He is still upset about it.

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Bottom line, AH should be here, but it's not required so he doesn't have to. Not much MS can do, he can't violate the terms of the CBA.

In any business situation where you require a team effort from 50+ people and everyone else is going "over and above" and you decide to only work your M-F, 8x5, you're a selfish person with no loyalty to your teammates or the organization. Period, end of story.

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[QUOTE=Slingin Sammy 33;699906]Bottom line, AH should be here, but it's not required so he doesn't have to. Not much MS can do, he can't violate the terms of the CBA.

[B]In any business situation where you require a team effort from 50+ people and everyone else is going "over and above" and you decide to only work your M-F, 8x5, you're a selfish person with no loyalty to your teammates or the organization. Period, end of story[/B][B].[[/B]/QUOTE]

CORRECT! Anybody who works for a living should understand this. For those of you who are defending Haynesworth's actions, trust me, if you were at work busting your butt, doing extra for the good of the organization and another person in your organization who was making 100 times more money than you were for doing the same job couldn't be bothered to come in to work, you would deeply resent it. Admit it.

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It's still being reported locally that the Skins would like to move Haynesworth at the right price. It seems that Tennessee wanted a third rounder for AH, but the Skins didn't bite.

The best case scenario at this point, for both sides, is an injury elsewhere in the NFL that makes Albert more tradeable (is that a word?), if you will.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/08/report-albert-haynesworth-interested-in-joining-the-vikings/]Report: Albert Haynesworth interested in joining the Vikings | ProFootballTalk.com[/url]

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[quote=12thMan;699911]It's still being reported locally that the Skins would like to move Haynesworth at the right price.[B] It seems that Tennessee wanted a third rounder for AH, but the Skins didn't bite.[/B]

The best case scenario at this point, for both sides, is an injury elsewhere in the NFL that makes Albert more tradeable (is that a word?), if you will.[/quote]

You mean we have to give them a draft pick to take him? ;)

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[quote=Mattyk;699912][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/08/report-albert-haynesworth-interested-in-joining-the-vikings/]Report: Albert Haynesworth interested in joining the Vikings | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

Given the recent ruling against the Williams Wall, one would think that the draft day talk about AH to the Vikings would heat up.

I'm not demanding a Haynesworth trade - I'm on the fence about him - but the Vikes do have players like Loadholt who would fill a need for us and would look good in the b&g.

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[quote=Mattyk;699912][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/05/08/report-albert-haynesworth-interested-in-joining-the-vikings/]Report: Albert Haynesworth interested in joining the Vikings | ProFootballTalk.com[/url][/quote]

[quote][B]The question becomes[/B] whether the Vikings are still interested, whether the Redskins are willing to move him, and whether the two sides can strike a mutually acceptable deal.[/quote]

wait, isn't that 3 questions

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;699917]wait, isn't that 3 questions[/quote]

It's the new math. 1=3. Lol.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;699906]Bottom line, AH should be here, but it's not required so he doesn't have to. Not much MS can do, he can't violate the terms of the CBA.

In any business situation where you require a team effort from 50+ people and everyone else is going "over and above" and you decide to only work your M-F, 8x5, you're a selfish person with no loyalty to your teammates or the organization. Period, end of story.[/quote]

Your analogy is incorrect. I think a more accurate one would be.....'during our [B]summer vacation period [/B]while the plant is closed, our company is offering voluntary training for all employees for the purpose of self improvement. While this training is free and beneficial to your career, it is not mandatory, it is voluntary. But if you do not attend this voluntary training your boss will publicly point you out and make you public enemy #1. But this how NFL coaches behave.

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I think, and have almost forever thought (except as where posts to the contrary can be found and thus proven I had thought differently at that point), that comparisons of football to business is ultimately ridiculous, because the numbers are out of whack with what most of us would consider normal. Thus the analogy falls apart because human nature resets at the higher level. Now to use an analogy where I just said they weren't applicable. If one of a sales team's top sales makers accomplished the impressive numbers but never came to the sales rah rah meetings sure the others would be upset, and management would rattle their fist, but in the end the top money maker would be allowed to follow their plan because the company is making beaucoup bucks off of him. Likewise, AH can act ridiculous because the Skins make beaucoup bucks off of marketing, and even the publicity of AH will make for great drama in the regular season.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;699922][B]I think, and have almost forever thought (except as where posts to the contrary can be found and thus proven I had thought differently at that point),[/B] that comparisons of football to business is ultimately ridiculous, because the numbers are out of whack with what most of us would consider normal. Thus the analogy falls apart because human nature resets at the higher level. Now to use an analogy where I just said they weren't applicable. If one of a sales team's top sales makers accomplished the impressive numbers but never came to the sales rah rah meetings sure the others would be upset, and management would rattle their fist, but in the end the top money maker would be allowed to follow their plan because the company is making beaucoup bucks off of him. Likewise, AH can act ridiculous because the Skins make beaucoup bucks off of marketing, and even the publicity of AH will make for great drama in the regular season.[/quote]

I agree, except in cases where there is written proof that I don't.

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To all of you who think people like me are just getting "our panties in a bunch", what is going to motivate AH to be in prime shape and give the skins his 100% effort this season?

the 3.8 million he is set to make this year and the next few years?

I think anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall in this situation is being overly optimistic.

would i love AH to honor the remainder of his contract? a big f'in yes

do i think AH is going to play 100% for 3.8 million a year for the next 3 years? hell f'in no

sometimes you all just like to stick your head in the sand and not worry about anything until shit hits you in the face.

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[quote=over the mountain;699929]To all of you who think people like me are just getting "our panties in a bunch", what is going to motivate AH to be in prime shape and give the skins his 100% effort this season?

the 3.8 million he is set to make this year and the next few years?

I think anyone who doesnt see the writing on the wall in this situation is being overly optimistic.

would i love AH to honor the remainder of his contract? a big f'in yes

do i think AH is going to play 100% for 3.8 million a year for the next 3 years? hell f'in no

[B]sometimes you all just like to stick your head in the sand and not worry about anything until shit hits you in the face[/B].[/quote]

It would be hard for shit to hit you in the face while your head's in the sand wouldn't it Mountain?