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[quote=vallin21;705261]I'd say Moss is still the fastest WR, followed by Banks (assuming he makes the team), Galloway (still think he has some speed left) T. Austin, Thomas, and Kelly. That should rank in the top 15, assuming we keep 6 WRs (doubt it). I'd bet to think we have the fastest WR's overall in the NFC East team, but speed alone almost never wins games.[/quote]

I don't think speed alone wins games, I just wasn't sure where our receivers rank speed wise. I am hoping we see more ability to create separation, from [U]any[/U] of our receivers. I don't really care who steps up, but it would be nice to see a competent passing game for once.

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Oh and just because the writer says he's an "outsider" doesn't mean he's oblivious to whats going on. All it might mean is he has not been down to the park to see for himself. He's most likely getting his information form someone else who is down at the park watching everyday whats going on. At this point we don't even know if it's possibly a coach of some type feeding him inside info.

But... lets take the "I'm an outsider" statement and call him an idiot for writing a story and not having any clue about what he's talking about.

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[quote=SBXVII;705273]I am. I'm not throwing them out with the bath water just yet. I'm just tired of the "Oh don't worry they will be our #1 and #2", "You'll see they are gunna step up any day now", "this is their 3rd yr and that means they are gunna bust out" mentality. All I'm hoping for is that the coaching staff has made contingiency plans for if Thomas and Kelly don't step up, and Galloway and Wade are not my ideas of contingiency plans. I truly hope everyone is at some point telling me "I told you so."[/quote]

I'm not sure anyone has made any iron clad predictions about these guys busting out. The general view seems to be that it's a little early to be worrying too much.

Personally I'm tired of folks tossing players to the curb prematurely. If some people had their way players would never get the chance to blossom. And we would have a team full of guys that shine in the preseason playing against 4th and 5th string players.

This is going to be a very telling year for both guys. Make or break.

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[quote=Mattyk;705268]It's got nothing to do with excuses, these are WRs entering their 3rd seasons. It typically takes 2-3 seasons for WRs to fully blossom. How about we try to have a little patience considering we're not even into August yet?[/quote]

I agree with you here, but the real question is how patient will Shanny be? Everything Shanny has done so far points to a "win now" expectation. We are not in a rebuilding process, so I really believe if he doesnt see the results preseason, he is not going to hesitate to play vets or bring someone else in. I stated on another thread I really would not be surprised to see one of the two not make the team. Receiver position on this team IMO has been a weakness for awhile, hopefully we see a breakout from one of the two this year, HTTR.

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Isn't it a little too early for threads like this???? As much as I'm ready to turn the page on Kelly and Thomas it's June. Let's see how they do in training camp and pre season when the pads are on. But let's be honest. 40 catches in two years for Thomas and Kelly has even less. That is simply pathetic. IMO neither of these guys are NFL material and that's why they signed Gage and 50 year old Galloway. The offense is still going to struggle cause we don't have the talent on the outside.

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It will be interesting to see what happens to Patrick Crayton. I don't see hom making the Dallas roster.

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I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;705291]I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.[/quote]

You summed it up very well...I'd agree with all of it.

I'm also not worried about DT, I really think he'll break out this year despite (and maybe due to) not needing to be the key to the offense. Kelly should also do well in some games, but he's the inconsistent one we should be talking about. Galloway will be a possession, key catch kind of guy...much like James Thrash was...not a major factor but makes plays when we need him to.

2011: DT will be the #1 and MK will be on the hot seat to step up, basically Devin's position this year.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;705291]I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.[/quote]

I'm not overly concerned about the WR spot either. I think we'll get enough out of them to get the job done. McNabb worked with a lot less for most of his time in Philly and managed to put up big numbers. And we've got a pair of superb TE's to throw to as well.

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[quote=Buster;705294]You summed it up very well...I'd agree with all of it.

I'm also not worried about DT, I really think he'll break out this year despite (and maybe due to) not needing to be the key to the offense. Kelly should also do well in some games, but he's the inconsistent one we should be talking about. Galloway will be a possession, key catch kind of guy...much like James Thrash was...not a major factor but makes plays when we need him to.

2011: DT will be the #1 and MK will be on the hot seat to step up, basically Devin's position this year.[/quote]

so one thing i havent heard is what roles we are trying to put our receivers in? who's getting most of the #1 and #2 reps?

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[quote=Mattyk;705298]I'm not overly concerned about the WR spot either. I think we'll get enough out of them to get the job done. McNabb worked with a lot less for most of his time in Philly and managed to put up big numbers. And we've got a pair of superb TE's to throw to as well.[/quote]

Finally, we've got a quarterback worth picking up in fantasy football. I usually try to get atleast one redskin. Usually, its been Cooley, but i'm not sure if i'd consider him this year. With the emergence of Davis, I dont know if Cooley will be starting-TE material for FF.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;705304]Finally, we've got a quarterback worth picking up in fantasy football. I usually try to get atleast one redskin. Usually, its been Cooley, but i'm not sure if i'd consider him this year. With the emergence of Davis, I dont know if Cooley will be starting-TE material for FF.[/quote]

Yeah too early to tell how many snaps Davis might take away from Cooley. Still, hard to see CC not getting at least 60 catches IMO. I tend to think they'll be used together rather than one taking away time from the other.

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While the jury is definitely out, one thing I remember is that when Sherman Lewis took over play calling he seemed to be gradually bringing the 3 2nd rounders in to play. With Cooley out, FD had to step up, and did. In the next few games I remember DT starting to get some serious playing time, and then MK had his play in the finale. I hope those trends continue and we see a much more potent offense this year. Obviously, I can't wait till september!

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[quote=Mattyk;705305]Yeah too early to tell how many snaps Davis might take away from Cooley. Still, hard to see CC not getting at least 60 catches IMO. I tend to think they'll be used together rather than one taking away time from the other.[/quote]

i agree they'll probably be on the field alot together (reports are cooley has been lining up wide a lot), but having two good pass-catching TEs on a team hurts the players FF value the same way having two stud RBs on a team does. Its funny how with alot of positions, there are players i would pick on my FF team that i wouldnt necessarily want when assembling a real roster and vica versa.

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[quote=Mattyk;705277]I'm not sure anyone has made any iron clad predictions about these guys busting out. The general view seems to be that it's a little early to be worrying too much.

Personally I'm tired of folks tossing players to the curb prematurely. If some people had their way players would never get the chance to blossom. And we would have a team full of guys that shine in the preseason playing against 4th and 5th string players.

This is going to be a very telling year for both guys. Make or break.[/quote]

Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. Perhaps it wasn't you but I brought up Mason his second yr and everyone said no get rid of him. I said lets develope him for the future. I mention all the good news about these OTA's with Banks and Armstrong and people say stop worrying both will be gone by seasons start. I find it interesting how some players are ok to be developed and others are camp fodder. Just because we drafted them doesn't mean they are not camp fodder.

But like I said I'm on your side I too want to see what the new scheme will bring for them, but I would pick up a better insurance policy then Galloway and Wade.

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[quote=skinsfan69;705286]It will be interesting to see what happens to Patrick Crayton. I don't see hom making the Dallas roster.[/quote]

Nothing is going to happen to him unless he's traded for a player or someone throws draft picks at Dallas to get him. I wouldn't give Dallas anything and I seriously doubt they just cut him. The team has said they were not trading him then recently came out and said they wouldn't throw him away cause he's too valuable to them. Which to me means they will want compensation.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;705291]I'm honestly not as worried about our receivers as everyone else seems to be. I've seen Devin Thomas wide open so many times only to have Campbell not even look for him because he was locked onto another receiver the entire time. In the past, our offense has been hampered by a poor offensive line not giving Campbell much time and then Campbell not using the time he had effectively, thereby nullifying potential big plays on a regular basis.

In 2010, we have an improved offensive line, a hall of fame quarterback, a hall of fame coach, and one of the brightest young offensive coordinators in the league. Remember, neither Devin Thomas nor Malcom Kelly has ever played a game with a starting caliber quarterback and proven playcaller. If Kelly and Thomas are even #2 and #3 caliber receivers, our offense will be decent in 2010. Remeber, Shanahan's offense is pretty run-heavy anyways, and we've got two elite pass-catching TEs on the roster. The pressure on our WRs isnt going to be superdemanding. They only need to play a part. We arent relying on them to win games for us.[/quote]

Well they will also be required to partake in down field blocking for those runs or 10 yrd passes.

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[quote=SBXVII;705332]Hmm, you bring up an interesting point. Perhaps it wasn't you but I brought up Mason his second yr and everyone said no get rid of him. I said lets develope him for the future. I mention all the good news about these OTA's with Banks and Armstrong and people say stop worrying both will be gone by seasons start. I find it interesting how some players are ok to be developed and others are camp fodder. [B]Just because we drafted them doesn't mean they are not camp fodder.[/B]

But like I said I'm on your side I too want to see what the new scheme will bring for them, but I would pick up a better insurance policy then Galloway and Wade.[/quote]

Agreed but the simple fact is most of those preseason fan favorites don't make the team, and they don't make it for a reason.

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[quote=Mattyk;705335]Agreed but the simple fact is most of those preseason fan favorites don't make the team, and they don't make it for a reason.[/quote]

and I'll be honest the only reason we have kept these two WR's is cause we have so much invested in them. Meaning 2nd round picks and money spent on them. Otherwise I'd venture to say they would have been cut by now.

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[quote=SBXVII;705338]and I'll be honest the only reason we have kept these two WR's is cause we have so much invested in them. Meaning 2nd round picks and money spent on them. Otherwise I'd venture to say they would have been cut by now.[/quote]

Salaries aren't an issue, neither of them are making big money. They could be cut quite easily.

If we're having this same discussion next year at this time it would be reasonable to think they could be gone. After 2 years though it's still premature.

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[quote=SBXVII;705333]Nothing is going to happen to him unless he's traded for a player or someone throws draft picks at Dallas to get him. I wouldn't give Dallas anything and I seriously doubt they just cut him. The team has said they were not trading him then recently came out and said they wouldn't throw him away cause he's too valuable to them. Which to me means they will want compensation.[/quote]

Perhaps you're right but they're very crowed at the wr position.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;705247]So how do our receivers rank in terms of pure speed? Is Moss the fastest? It never seemed to me like any one on our team had breakaway speed, so I just wondered where all our receivers stack up, both on the team, and against other receivers in the league.[/quote]

My guess from the current fastest in order

Brandon Banks-the kid is a smurf but can flat out fly-[B][COLOR="Red"][U]4.37 [/U][/COLOR][/B]official/fast time [I][COLOR="Red"]4.30[/COLOR][/I][url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=81839&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR]Brandon Banks*|*Kansas State,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]
Devin Thomas-[B][COLOR="Red"]4.40 [/COLOR][/B]official /fast time [U][COLOR="Red"]4.32 [/COLOR][/U]just for reference DeSean Jackson ran a 4.35 official
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=67905&draftyear=2008&genpos=WR]*Devin Thomas*|*Michigan State,*WR*:*2008 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]
Santana Moss-[B][COLOR="Red"]4.31 [/COLOR][/B]official (2001)
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombinescores.php]NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange[/url]
Joey Galloway-anywhere from [I][COLOR="Red"]4.20-4.38 [/COLOR][/I]can't find official time but in his prime the dude had wheels
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombinescores.php]NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange[/url]
Terrence Austin-[B][COLOR="Red"]4.52 [/COLOR][/B]official/[I][COLOR="Red"]4.42 [/COLOR][/I]fast time
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=64496&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR]Terrence Austin*|*UCLA,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]
Shay Hodge-[B][COLOR="Red"]4.62[/COLOR][/B] official/4.50 fast time
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=65402&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR]Shay Hodge*|*Mississippi,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

can't find Anthony Armstrong's 40

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Thanks 30Gut.

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If they line up Cooley more wide this year, then the most we will see is 3 WRs on the field with Colley being the forth. That sounds a lot like Dallas Clark with the Colts, whom we have seen line up wide for a number of years. I like that idea. I actually like the idea of the 2 TE, 2WR 1RB set that several teams run these days. More blockers on the field, which would make that streach running play to Portis work really well.

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Armstrong is probably the fastest actually. Heard he ran like a 4.2 flat 40 last summer.

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[quote=Mattyk;705229]It's a worthy thread, just a little early to panic is all

:)[/quote]

Matty your standards are getting lower.

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[quote=30gut;705349]My guess from the current fastest in order

Brandon Banks-the kid is a smurf but can flat out fly-[B][COLOR=red][U]4.37 [/U][/COLOR][/B]official/fast time [I][COLOR=red]4.30[/COLOR][/I][URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=81839&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR"]Brandon Banks*|*Kansas State,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/URL]
Devin Thomas-[B][COLOR=red]4.40 [/COLOR][/B]official /fast time [U][COLOR=red]4.32 [/COLOR][/U]just for reference DeSean Jackson ran a 4.35 official
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=67905&draftyear=2008&genpos=WR"]*Devin Thomas*|*Michigan State,*WR*:*2008 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/URL]
Santana Moss-[B][COLOR=red]4.31 [/COLOR][/B]official (2001)
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombinescores.php"]NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange[/URL]
Joey Galloway-anywhere from [I][COLOR=red]4.20-4.38 [/COLOR][/I]can't find official time but in his prime the dude had wheels
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/nflcombinescores.php"]NFL Draft Scout Rankings, From Prep to Pro Coverage for Pros by Pros - Powered by the Sports Xchange[/URL]
Terrence Austin-[B][COLOR=red]4.52 [/COLOR][/B]official/[I][COLOR=red]4.42 [/COLOR][/I]fast time
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=64496&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR"]Terrence Austin*|*UCLA,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/URL]
Shay Hodge-[B][COLOR=red]4.62[/COLOR][/B] official/4.50 fast time
[URL="http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=65402&draftyear=2010&genpos=WR"]Shay Hodge*|*Mississippi,*WR*:*2010 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/URL]

can't find Anthony Armstrong's 40[/quote]

Good job, but I'd wonder how accurate this is. What I mean is I presume this is from all their draft testing and I would guess Moss can't run that fast anymore due to him being a bit older and most likely heavier. Thomas might be in the same boat since he has put on a lot of muscle. I could be wrong.

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I think my list would look something like this since we have better numbers:

Banks
Armstrong
Thomas
Moss
Kelly
Austin
Wade
Galloway

You did forget Kelly and Wade.

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If Galloway is healthy I'm betting the old guy can still fly

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You might be right. He's still tall and has not gained too much weight. He might be placed up above Kelly on my list.

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[quote=SBXVII;705396]You might be right. He's still tall and has not gained too much weight. He might be placed up above Kelly on my list.[/quote]

We're talking about Galloway? Define tall

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[quote=Mattyk;705394]If Galloway is healthy I'm betting the old guy can still fly[/quote]

The guy couldn't hack it as New Englands 3rd wr last year. After Moss and Welker there really wasn't much competition since Stallworth and Gafney left. He is so done.

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[quote=SBXVII;705393]I think my list would look something like this since we have better numbers:

Banks
Armstrong
Thomas
Moss
Kelly
Austin
Wade
Galloway

You did forget Kelly and Wade.[/quote]

I didn't look Kelly's up b/c i figured that we all know that speed isn't his calling card. [B][COLOR="Red"]4.64 [/COLOR][/B]/4.53 fast time although i haven't seen this number linked to Kelly anywhere else

[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=57212&draftyear=2008&genpos=WR]*Malcolm Kelly*|*Oklahoma,*WR*:*2008 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

[quote=Gil Brandt]WR Malcolm Kelly (6-3 7/8, 227): Ran the 40 in [B][COLOR="Red"]4.75 [/COLOR][/B]and [B][COLOR="Red"]4.68[/COLOR][/B], had a 32-inch vertical jump, 9-foot, 9-inch long jump, 4.24 short shuttle, 7.00 cone drill, and ran position drills. Kelly looked very good catching the football.[/quote]
[url=http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80775639&template=with-video&confirm=true]Pro day updates: Schools N-R[/url]

But, Malcolm is known for great hands:
[YT]T9W7nTi4JFQ[/YT]

Wade isn't a burner either [COLOR="Red"][B]4.66[/B][/COLOR]
[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=59688&draftyear=2003&genpos=WR]Bobby Wade*|*Arizona,*WR*:*2003 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;705385]Armstrong is probably the fastest actually. Heard he ran like a 4.2 flat 40 last summer.[/quote]

4.2? Wow? Where at?
I figured he was fast based on the rave reports from the Dolphins last year.

I trust you but where did you find it?

Armstrong's 40 time is like a song stuck in my head that i can't remember the words to help!

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[quote=30gut;705412]4.2? Wow? Where at?
I figured he was fast based on the rave reports from the Dolphins last year.

I trust you but where did you find it?

Armstrong's 40 time is like a song stuck in my head that i can't remember the words to help![/quote]

Heard it from someone associated with the league. But he said that's what he recalled, but wasn't sure.

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[quote=skinsfan69;705408]The guy couldn't hack it as New Englands 3rd wr last year. After Moss and Welker there really wasn't much competition since Stallworth and Gafney left. He is so done.[/quote]

He had injuries and issues adjusting to their offense. As long as he's right physically he might have something left.

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[quote=Mattyk;705414]He had injuries and issues adjusting to their offense. As long as he's right physically he might have something left.[/quote]

Galloway has wheels is smart in the "West" system and has been working hard with McNabb as any intelligent veteran role model player would.

I think he brings quite a bit to the table and has a great opportunity to be successful in this system.

He's not used up by any means.

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[url=http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-06-09/redskins-camp-countdown-washington-has-three-year-window-mcnabb]Redskins camp countdown: Washington has a 'three-year window with McNabb' - John Keim, Sporting News correspondent - NFL - Sporting News[/url]

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;705762][URL="http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-06-09/redskins-camp-countdown-washington-has-three-year-window-mcnabb"]Redskins camp countdown: Washington has a 'three-year window with McNabb' - John Keim, Sporting News correspondent - NFL - Sporting News[/URL][/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]There are several inaccuracies in that article. I think that the outlook and bottom line are accurate or "safe predictions", but there was a lot of hearsay in there that is not proven to be fact. The projected depth chart was a little pretentious as well.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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DT needs to go to Fitz Camp.