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[quote=12thMan;720430]I'm not sure how good Okung will be, but it looks like Trent "Silverback" Williams won't leave any doubt in the Redskins' mind that they made the right choice.

On another but related note, did anyone else see Chris Samuels on the sidelines huddled up with CP and few others towards the end? Looks like he's transitioning into his new role very nicely.[/quote]


I agree. The scary (in a good way) part is that it was widely acknowleged that Williams had the most ability and upside of all of the tackles.

Work ethic was supposed to be a concern but he made decisions that would ensure that he would get in camp almost immediately. Okung on the other hand chose money over what was good for the team and his development.

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Trent Williams looked really solid

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Torain and my Kansas State boy Banks. McNabb of course looked sharp. Portis looked good too.

Overall I think we looked more tenacious, poised, and disciplined. I hope it carries through when the games really matter.

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-I was really impressed by Grossman. I thought he was excellent with the exception of one pass to Wade that really should have been a pick 6.
-Trent Williams was really solid, in my opinion. That's great to see early on.
- Brandon Banks was awesome. I really hope he can keep it up. I know they've put him in the wildcat in practice, and I'd like to have a nice gadget/return guy on our team. I never minded ARE as a receiver, but it was very refreshing to see our return game last night.
-Cooley didn't seem like he missed a beat after the injury.


Really, my only major concern was the 1st team run defense. I'm gonna chalk it up to it being their first time running the system...and I think once Hayensworth is with the 1st team, that should help too... but its something to defintley keep an eye on.

Overall, can't ask for much more out of the first preseason game. Granted, the Bills are pretty bad.. so these next two games against the Ravens and Jets should be a much better indicator of where we are...but that was some of the best Redskins football I've seen since early in 2008.

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Offense:
Both Torain and K Williams. I hope we indeed can keep both. K Williams had a better ypc, but Torain played more against the Bills #1 D, so they are even in my book.

Gorssman really looked sharp!! I really hope it lasts through the regular season, then we are really tight!!!

Nice to see Devin comeback and have a nice game after the shaky start. He is definitely a lock at WR. I would like to see more of Alexander in the mix, just to see if he has what it takes. To be honest I would like to see a newbie WR over Kelly. Oft injured Wrs are useless.

Defense:

First string D was exceptional, second was pretty solid. Our scrubs, well are scrubs. The Bills scrub RBs averaged over 8 ypc later in the game, so depth at D looks like our only potential problem if injuries start to mount in the regular season. Loved D Angelo's pick in the 1st quarter.

Special teams:

Gano has a leg!!!!!
Banks TD was kickass!!!
Coverage teams did a nice job!!!!!


Overall we looked very sharp. Offense was in a solid rhythm with Donovan and Grossman. We have a great stable of RBs/FBs, and the line play was definitely improved. I am glad AH said he likes the 3-4 now, it is good for morale and means he will play his ass off. H e will excel this year and will start earning his massive paycheck. Like I said above the D looks solid, but depth might be a big issue with a lot of injuries. I know the game was a blowout, but those scrubs on D should be fighting for jobs still and they let the Bills Rbs run all over them. Next season's draft priorities should have LB high in the mix, and of course a CB or S. I saw us at 8-8 before and I will stick with that just until I see how well we handle the hot Ravens. If we look anywhere near as good with regards to offensive rhythm, and can keep the new Ravens O in check for the most part I will give my usual 10-6 prediction. I am doing this just because I think the Bills are indeed that bad. They really do not have much talent at all.

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I think Torain and Keiland Williams played so well, if they keep it up I think I could envision our backfield including Portis, Torain, LJ. With Fullbacks Sellers and Keiland Williams.

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I sure hope they can Keep K Williams. I like Sellers, but this kid has talent.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;720455]Offense:
Both Torain and K Williams. I hope we indeed can keep both. K Williams had a better ypc, but Torain played more against the Bills #1 D, so they are even in my book.

Gorssman really looked sharp!! I really hope it lasts through the regular season, then we are really tight!!!

Nice to see Devin comeback and have a nice game after the shaky start. He is definitely a lock at WR. I would like to see more of Alexander in the mix, just to see if he has what it takes. To be honest I would like to see a newbie WR over Kelly. Oft injured Wrs are useless.

Defense:

First string D was exceptional, second was pretty solid. Our scrubs, well are scrubs. The Bills scrub RBs averaged over 8 ypc later in the game, so depth at D looks like our only potential problem if injuries start to mount in the regular season. Loved D Angelo's pick in the 1st quarter.

Special teams:

Gano has a leg!!!!!
Banks TD was kickass!!!
Coverage teams did a nice job!!!!!


Overall we looked very sharp. Offense was in a solid rhythm with Donovan and Grossman. We have a great stable of RBs, and the line play was definitely improved. I am glad AH said he likes the 3-4 now, it is good for morale and means he will play his ass off. H e will excel this year and will start earning his massive paycheck. Like I said above the D looks solid, but depth might be a big issue with a lot of injuries. I know the game was a blowout, but those scrubs on D should be fighting for jobs still and they let the Bills Rbs run all over them. Next season's draft priorities should have LB high in the mix, and of course a CB or S. I saw us at 8-8 before and I will stick with that just until I see how well we handle the hot Ravens. If we look anywhere near as good with regards to offensive rhythm, and can keep the new Ravens O in check for the most part I will give my usual 10-6 prediction. I am doing this just because I think the Bills are indeed that bad. They really do not have much talent at all.[/quote]


The one thing about the depth of the D is our 3rd string Defense will not ever be playing in a football game that is not designated as preseason. I think we have nice depth up front, LB core, and the safteies. The only area that seems weak is CB. We have a solid core of 22 players on defense for the year not much worry about depth from my vantage point.

This team looked very solid in our first game and very prepared all the way around. I was impressed by the coaching staff and how well they had our players prepared to play.

I am going to say it now. This could be a special year if we can avoid injuries.

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#36 Darrel Young played alot of backup fullback last night. He lead the way on both the Keiland Williams TDs. He is solid as well. I hope we can keep him around on the PS squad.

Dennis Morris did not play at all from what I could tell unless it was in the 4th quarter because I did not pay as close of attention to the game after the 3rd.

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Grossman and Torain looked good. I'm little confused how Portis impresses, yet another chance for big play and he trips over his blockers. Hope he doesn't start, with better oline his blocking won't be as important.

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[quote=Zerohero;720465]Grossman and Torain looked good. I'm little confused how Portis impresses, yet another chance for big play and he trips over his blockers. Hope he doesn't start, with better oline his blocking won't be as important.[/quote]

Im with you,Portis looked like same old Portis from last yr,was not impressed

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I wasn't as impressed with Grossman as some people were. It's the good Rex/bad Rex thing, and we came within an inch a couple of times to seeing Bills pick-sixes.

Some day Trent Williams will lead the league in pancakes. He doesn't just want to keep you out of the play; he wants to rub your nose in the dirt.

The run defense is a concern. The passing offense scheme, unsurprisingly, is scary good.

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Torrain was hands down the most impressive player that I watched last night.

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RILEY !! - This guy is a beast

K Williams

Banks Banks Banks Banks

Roydell Williams

T Williams

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[quote=GusFrerotte;720460]I sure hope they can Keep K Williams. I like Sellers, but this kid has talent.[/quote]

Keiland cannot replace Sellers. I thought I saw #35 Keiland Williams playing FB on at least one play but, it was most likely #36 Daryl Young instead. With the Shanahans, you never know. Keiland could be the next
Mike Anderson.

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McNabb drew a (completely justified) roughing the passer call on Maybin on a third down, which was really the "difference" in the offense from last years offense. Instead of two failed possessions in the first quarter, we got a failed possession, and a long drive.

I think that's who Donovan McNabb is. You give him a second chance, and he's going to make a play to beat you. And he did a good job moving the chains with Cooley and his own legs, which is the tried-and-true way to attack a defense. Or, at least it's all I've seen the last three years.

That touchdown pass was beautiful wasn't it? Backing up away from unblocked pressure and still throwing an accurate pass off his back foot. I'd imagine that's why he's here.

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[quote=GTripp0012;720577]McNabb drew a (completely justified) roughing the passer call on Maybin on a third down, which was really the "difference" in the offense from last years offense. Instead of two failed possessions in the first quarter, we got a failed possession, and a long drive.

[B]I think that's who Donovan McNabb is. You give him a second chance, and he's going to make a play to beat you. And he did a good job moving the chains with Cooley and his own legs, which is the tried-and-true way to attack a defense. Or, at least it's all I've seen the last three years.[/B]

[B]That touchdown pass was beautiful wasn't it? Backing up away from unblocked pressure and still throwing an accurate pass off his back foot. I'd imagine that's why he's here[/B].[/quote]

It is definately why I am so excited to havethis guy as our QB, and he is a good man and an easy guy to get behind.

I really think if he and Mike win a Superbowl here they both solidify themselves in Canton.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;720584]It is definately why I am so excited to havethis guy as our QB, and he is a good man and an easy guy to get behind.

[B]I really think if he and Mike win a Superbowl here they both solidify themselves in Canton.[/B][/quote]I think that's probably accurate. But I'm thinking they're both pretty fringe if they come up short here, and I think we've seen with Brunell, Washington is a place that can really hurt your legacy if you don't win.

There's a lot on the line this year, legacy-wise.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;720462]The one thing about the depth of the D is our 3rd string Defense will not ever be playing in a football game that is not designated as preseason. I think we have nice depth up front, LB core, and the safteies. The only area that seems weak is CB. We have a solid core of 22 players on defense for the year not much worry about depth from my vantage point.

This team looked very solid in our first game and very prepared all the way around. I was impressed by the coaching staff and how well they had our players prepared to play.

I am going to say it now. This could be a special year if we can avoid injuries.[/quote]


I realize scrubs are scrubs, but you would think they could give a better effort than allowing the 8 yards per carry. I know they are probably goners, but it would be nice to have some quality depth and have Shanny and the coaching staff have to really make tough decisions about who makes it. THe Ravens game will give us more of a gauge as to where we are. The Bills were just downright awful and we seemed to be at the top of our game already, but I suspect a lot of it was the Bills just plain suck.

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I liked what Portis showed because other than the run on 2nd and goal where the line got zero push/combined with Portis cutting to the wrong spot, he was hitting the gaps in the d-line as soon as they were formed and was regularly getting 4-6 yards a pop. On top of that he looked open on every pass route he ran with the exception of one. He just looked faster on his feet to me and he's going to need it cuz torain and williams looked really good at times and we still haven't seen LJ who has had a very strong offseason.

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[quote=Zerohero;720465]Grossman and Torain looked good. I'm little confused how Portis impresses, yet another chance for big play and he trips over his blockers. Hope he doesn't start, with better oline his blocking won't be as important.[/quote]

I agree Portis had TD if he never fell to the ground. The two young rbs really impressed me & hopefully they both make the team.

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Brandon Banks, Keiland Williams, Trent Williams, Ryan Torain, Terrence Austin, Perry Riley, Rex Grossman and DeAngelo Hall.

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Trent Williams...not that I wasn't expecting him to dominate, but it was great to see.

Perry Riley

Brandon Banks

Keiland Williams

Ryan Torain

Lendy Holmes

Justin Tryon

Josh Bidwell...great average, 3 punts inside 20.

Rex Grossman! I'm beginning to think that his inconsistency in Chicago was systematic problems, or he's just not fit for the offense they ran. He just looks so comfortable and efficient in Kyle's offense, much like Todd Collins in our previous offense.

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I really hope they decide to keep 2 QB's & 4 RB's (Portis, LJ, Torain & Williams)

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hmmmmm, I would say......Banks. Banks and Tryon

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[quote=GusFrerotte;720608]I realize scrubs are scrubs, but you would think they could give a better effort than allowing the 8 yards per carry. I know they are probably goners, but it would be nice to have some quality depth and have Shanny and the coaching staff have to really make tough decisions about who makes it. THe Ravens game will give us more of a gauge as to where we are. The Bills were just downright awful and we seemed to be at the top of our game already, but I suspect a lot of it was the Bills just plain suck.[/quote]


I agree 100% about the Ravens game being a true test for our club.

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;720609]I liked what Portis showed because other than the run on 2nd and goal where the line got zero push/combined with Portis cutting to the wrong spot, he was hitting the gaps in the d-line as soon as they were formed and was regularly getting 4-6 yards a pop. On top of that he looked open on every pass route he ran with the exception of one. He just looked faster on his feet to me and he's going to need it cuz torain and williams looked really good at times and we still haven't seen LJ who has had a very strong offseason.[/quote]


I dont know, I was hoping for a little more from Portis...he seemed like the same ole Portis to me. I'd like to see a second gear coming out of the hole, he just doesnt have that anymore. Im with you on LJ, I really want to see what he has and believe LJ can move up the depth chart if he cant run with more explosiveness through the middle. I think LJ is better than Portis with breaking tackles too. I believe both will see alot of pt through the season, but if what we saw from Portis Friday night is what we are going to get, than I rather have LJ running the ball the majority of the time.

Im in wait and see mode right now between the two since of course we have just started the preseason games, but I want to see more out of our running backs

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[B]Nick Sundberg[/B]=After all his bad snaps during practice,I thought he did well during the game,but I understand signing the Jets LS as well

[B]Trent Williams[/B]=Thought he did very well against maybin. Specially since it's been a long time since he's played any football. Wasn't perfect,but I liked what I saw from "Silverback"

[B]Donovan McNabb[/B]=Wasn't Great and even had a dirt ball,but he didn't do anything stupid. Leadership and Confidence were very visible to me in his 1st preseason game. He will only get better,as he gets even more comfortable.

[B]Brandon Banks[/B]=How can you not root for this 5'7" little guy? lol...This guy seems very special to me already and I hope he makes the team. Oh..how we have been missing a return game for so..so long. I want to see him at WR or at least on WR screens too.

[B]Chris Cooley[/B]=Is this guy money or what? Love Fred Davis,but Cooley will be a big reason this season why McNabb stays comfortable back there. I guess you can say Cooley will be McNabb's "Westbrook". Hitting Cooley when there are no others options.

There are more,but I'll go with these 5...

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[quote=Buster;720866]
[B]Rex Grossman! I'm beginning to think that his inconsistency in Chicago was systematic problems, or he's just not fit for the offense they ran. He just looks so comfortable and efficient in Kyle's offense, much like Todd Collins in our previous offense.[/B][/quote]

I hope you are right. He did look very comfortable.

I am going to wait to see how Rexy does against Ravens.
His two passes that should been intercepted, in the arms of the Bills DB and the DB's just dropped it. They were easy pick offs and one would have been a pick 6. Even the TD pass to Fred Davis was a risky ugly floater. If the Db covering on that play been a good DB, it would have been an easy pick.

He is great when he fires it in, it is those soft lazy passes that he sometimes makes scare me. His biggest criticism coming in was his arm strength. Not sure it is the strength as much as his inconsistency in the velocity of the ball going to receiver.

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[quote=Redskin Warrior;720899]I really hope they decide to keep 2 QB's & 4 RB's (Portis, LJ, Torain & Williams)[/quote]

I agree with that 100%. I think if Torain and K Williams keep showing up like that in the next couple preseason games they almost have to keep them. I mean why in the world would we need a third QB if our back up QB's first name is Sexy? The rest takes care of itself....

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The ad hoc WR corps
Sexxy Rexxy
H.B. Blades
Daryl Young
K. Williams
Tryon
Most of the back-up OL

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[quote=Buster;720866]

Rex Grossman! I'm beginning to think that his inconsistency in Chicago was systematic problems, or he's just not fit for the offense they ran. He just looks so comfortable and efficient in Kyle's offense, much like Todd Collins in our previous offense.[/quote]dude threw THREE near INTs.. no man crush here

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[quote=tryfuhl;721109]dude threw THREE near INTs.. no man crush here[/quote]But he looked really comfortable throwing those ill-advised passes. Body language, dude.

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[quote=tryfuhl;721109]dude threw THREE near INTs.. no man crush here[/quote]

Yeah on his Fred Davis touchdown throw, if their corner had come back a little earlier that very easily could've been a pick six. He made some plays, but he also had some throws that left me scratching my head. Overall throw his good plays were way better than his bad ones and that's what people are going to remember. I just hope if he has to play this season that he doesn't try to make a play and end up getting burned bigtime.

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[quote=mooby;721129]Yeah on his Fred Davis touchdown throw, if their corner had come back a little earlier that very easily could've been a pick six. He made some plays, but he also had some throws that left me scratching my head. Overall throw his good plays were way better than his bad ones and that's what people are going to remember. I just hope if he has to play this season that he doesn't try to make a play and end up getting burned bigtime.[/quote]

But that's what you get from Grossman. Risky passes that could lead to 6 either way. Not saying Grossman is one of the best QBs...but that's what you get from some of the best QBs. How many fewer TDs do you think Favre would have if he was afraid to risk a few INTs every now and then?

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Grossman. I was worried that if McNabb had to miss a few games the Skins would have an inadequate back-up but it looks like if Rex has to come in for a few games he can get the job done.

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I am not as confident at you Irish. He was pretty close to throwing 2-3 Ints the other night. Turnovers are a killer.

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[quote=SmootSmack;721140]But that's what you get from Grossman. Risky passes that could lead to 6 either way. Not saying Grossman is one of the best QBs...but that's what you get from some of the best QBs. How many fewer TDs do you think Favre would have if he was afraid to risk a few INTs every now and then?[/quote]
Any backup can come in and throw INTs...why not have one who can possibly light up a defense too? Risk and reward.

Since he's NOT the starter, I'm OK with him being a bit dangerous, because he can carry us too if he's having a good day. He's the backup, so why not have a backup who can score instead of just "manage" the game to a couple of FGs.

No other team can say they have 2 Super Bowl starting QBs on their roster. :D

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[quote=Angry;721143]I am not as confident at you Irish. He was pretty close to throwing 2-3 Ints the other night. Turnovers are a killer.[/quote]

Armstrong was "pretty close" to fumbling before getting into the end zone, Fred was "pretty close" to stepping out of bounds on his TD and McNabb was "pretty close" to getting a concussion when whacked on the head illegally.

We can't really get down on what "almost" happened. They didn't. We scored 42 points and Rex completed most of his passes and 2 TDs, with almost as many yards as all three Bills QBs COMBINED.

I'll take the performances from everyone on the team.

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Grossman played well the other night. I'm not concerned about what didn't happen, sure he could have thrown a couple of picks, but he didn't.