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[quote=Dirtbag359;743117]Carolina's getting ready to have a fire sale of their own. DeAngelo Williams and Steve Smith have been rumored to already be on the trade block. Plus with their own collection of 2nd and 3rd round disapointments at reciever I doubt they trade for ours (read: Keary Colbert and Dwayne Jarret).




One things for sure. The Shanahan's love speed.




Eh, true, still doesn't change the fact that Armstrong can flat out fly.[/quote]

How were you able to quote saden1 1 minute before he posted

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[quote=SmootSmack;743137]He's been on the block on and off for a few months now. Two words...Vincent Jackson[/quote]

Do those two words mean we're trying to include Thomas in a deal to get Jackson or that Thomas has been on the block for months now, just like Vincent Jackson?

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;743164]Do those two words mean we're trying to include Thomas in a deal to get Jackson or that Thomas has been on the block for months now, just like Vincent Jackson?[/quote]

The former

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Well couldn't they have done that two weeks ago so we could have had him this week?! Good grief. Perhaps the reason we haven't been playing thomas is to keep him from potentially getting injured and hurting his trade value.

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Id like to think that is true...........Now i cant see any deal that will get VJ here, but, with this front office, who the hell really knows?? It just seems that if that trade or situation were going to happen, it would have happened by now

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Trading DT for VJ would be freakin' awesome!!!

We get a TRUE #1 wr...
DT goes to the AFC,where he won't burn our ass even if he becomes good..(which probably won't happen,if he's stupid and can't run routes)
Our offense becomes quite deadly by adding this fast 6'5" stud and our Offense is ranked #13th currently...(G.B. is 14th btw..)
and it gives us a true red zone offensive threat that we really don't have at all at the wr position.

With a WR core of
Vincent Jackson #1
Santana Moss #2
Anthony Armstrong #3
Joey Galloway #4
Roydell Williams #5
Brandon Banks #6

Gives us 5 of our 6 wr's can truly take a long pass to the house,at anytime...
This will also significantly open up our running game even more...

With those kinds of weapons and cooley and davis,teams will [B]HAVE TO[/B] respect our passing game... Specially with a QB [B]NOT AFRAID[/B] to throw the ball down the field.

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Give them DT and the 4th rounder from the Raiders next year for VJ.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;743160]How were you able to quote saden1 1 minute before he posted[/quote]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743171]Give them DT and the 4th rounder from the Raiders next year for VJ.[/quote]

Ya, this.

Except I think the deal would be a bit more attractive if you substitute Devin Thomas with a box of extra absorbant tampons. 1 box and the fourth rounder, and maybe toss in some preperation H so that GM in San Diego can quit being so damn uptight.

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[quote=Mechanix544;743181]Ya, this.

Except I think the deal would be a bit more attractive if you substitute Devin Thomas with a box of extra absorbant tampons. 1 box and the fourth rounder, and maybe toss in some preperation H so that GM in San Diego can quit being so damn uptight.[/quote]

Maybe this is the reason they want to get rid of DT [url=http://photos.essence.com/galleries/eye_candy_devin_thomas#342281]Eye Candy: Devin Thomas - essence.com[/url]

He's too pre-occupied being a beefcake than a football player.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743171]Give them DT and the 4th rounder from the Raiders next year for VJ.[/quote]

maybe i am mistaken but that would leave us with three picks and only one in the first four rounds. for me thats no dice.

from what i have seen from this team so far leads me to think that as of right now the coaches really don't know much at all about anyone on the team. if i'm wrong why did it take so long to give lj the boot, why did it take so long for alexander to get a chance, and why the f is highway 74 still open???

all i want to see is devin given an opportunity to be on the field with the first team and see what he can do. there is no way is hell that brandon banks should be in the game when we are inside the 10 yard line, put devin in and throw him a jumper we have to try it once to ever know if it will work

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[quote=mlmdub130;743187]maybe i am mistaken but that would leave us with three picks and only one in the first four rounds. for me thats no dice.

from what i have seen from this team so far leads me to think that as of right now the coaches really don't know much at all about anyone on the team. if i'm wrong why did it take so long to give lj the boot, why did it take so long for alexander to get a chance, and why the f is highway 74 still open???

all i want to see is devin given an opportunity to be on the field with the first team and see what he can do. there is no way is hell that brandon banks should be in the game when we are inside the 10 yard line, put devin in and throw him a jumper we have to try it once to ever know if it will work[/quote]

Try telling that to the coaches who have seen otherwise.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743188]Try telling that to the coaches who have seen otherwise.[/quote]

who have seen what? great practicing from stephon heyer?? all i'm saying is how do you or anyone for that matter have the slightest clue what dt can do if in a game with the first team offense.

at this point there is no reason to not put him in there. all anyone has said about him this year is how hard he is working and going with the program. i think he deserves at a minimum the opportunity and if he comes in and plays like ass [U]then[/U] ship him out. but you have to have an opportunity

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[quote=mlmdub130;743192]who have seen what? great practicing from stephon heyer?? all i'm saying is how do you or anyone for that matter have the slightest clue what dt can do if in a game with the first team offense.

at this point there is no reason to not put him in there. all anyone has said about him this year is how hard he is working and going with the program. i think he deserves at a minimum the opportunity and if he comes in and plays like ass [U]then[/U] ship him out. but you have to have an opportunity[/quote]

I agree, but you and I don't know what the coaches see day in and day out. There must be something negative about him, why else would you put a guy who was a drafted in the 2nd round on the block?

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743182]Maybe this is the reason they want to get rid of DT [url=http://photos.essence.com/galleries/eye_candy_devin_thomas#342281]Eye Candy: Devin Thomas - essence.com[/url]

He's too pre-occupied being a beefcake than a football player.[/quote]

You have to be good at your profession before you get in a magazine!
Thomas and Kelly don't get it. They came in to the NFL as rookies thinking they were stars. Snyderatto really ****ed up that draft.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743182]Maybe this is the reason they want to get rid of DT [url=http://photos.essence.com/galleries/eye_candy_devin_thomas#342281]Eye Candy: Devin Thomas - essence.com[/url]

[B]He's too pre-occupied being a beefcake than a football player.[/B][/quote]

That's my problem, too. I'm beefcake with a 44 in. waistline.

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[quote=Lotus;743198]That's my problem, too. I'm beefcake with a 44 in. waistline.[/quote]

More cervezas for you my friend!!:food-smil

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;743194]I agree, but you and I don't know what the coaches see day in and day out. There must be something negative about him, why else would you put a guy who was a drafted in the 2nd round on the block?[/quote]

i know i just don't know what the hell it could be, cause it's not his size, speed or athletic ability. i would just love to see them give him a chance is all. i know i really don't have a 10th of the knowledge that the coaching staff does, but if i was calling a play from the 5 yard line it'd be a jump ball to dt, not a bubble screen to brandon banks.

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[quote=mlmdub130;743187]maybe i am mistaken but that would leave us with three picks and only one in the first four rounds. for me thats no dice.

from what i have seen from this team so far leads me to think that as of right now the coaches really don't know much at all about anyone on the team. if i'm wrong why did it take so long to give lj the boot, why did it take so long for alexander to get a chance, and why the f is highway 74 still open???

all i want to see is devin given an opportunity to be on the field with the first team and see what he can do. there is no way is hell that brandon banks should be in the game when we are inside the 10 yard line, put devin in and throw him a jumper we have to try it once to ever know if it will work[/quote]

We have a 1st and 2nd this yr.

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[quote=Defensewins;743195]You have to be good at your profession before you get in a magazine!
Thomas and Kelly don't get it. They came in to the NFL as rookies thinking they were stars. Snyderatto really ****ed up that draft.[/quote]

Well Kelly has always worked hard, but he just can't stay healthy. And to DT's credit, from all I've been told he has been working very hard. Staying late to work out individually with McCardell.

I can't really explain why he's not getting on the field more though.

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Why are my fellow redskins fans getting all uptight about this D.Thomas situation?
Seriously..why?

We have a speed demon in Armstrong who's leaving DB's behind
We have another WR who's faster than Devin Hester and finally gives this skins team something they haven't had since Brian Mitchell or Darrell Green left...A true return man threat!
Not to mention we have a guy sitting on our practice squad who has shown me he has as much if not MORE potential than Thomas in Terrence Austin.
AND...we still will have another season to see how much a bust in Malcolm Kelly we have..lol
Maybe he steps up..maybe not,but i like our situation.

I would be totally fine with trading D.Thomas for a player that can help us now or for a draft pick next season.

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ace - i think people (like myself) are confused right now. The fans dont have an answer to why our 2nd round pick entering his 3rd season isnt even getting on the field as a reciever since toss-in players like roydell and galloway are getting touches.

I think we all want to know, just how bad can DT be in practice to basically be listed as an inactive. We dont know the answer and can only defer to the coaching staff's judgment on this.

Is it his inconsistent hands?
Is he still not preparing and studying the playbook like a pro?
We all heard praise thrown DT's way this preseason about his new found work ethic
He didnt look all that bad in preseason, granted it was against non-starters a good bit

basically, we dont know why.

i like others had hopes that he would our no 2 receiver this year, maybe catching 50+ balls with 700+ yards.

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[quote=SmootSmack;743204]Well Kelly has always worked hard, but he just can't stay healthy. And to DT's credit, from all I've been told he has been working very hard. Staying late to work out individually with McCardell.

[B]I can't really explain why he's not getting on the field more though.[/B][/quote]

Performance, ability, route running, ability to get open?

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Oh well, simpson will take over at KR. See YA DT.

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any insider news of why things have gone so bad with DT?

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Total BS. You're telling me this guy isn't even good enough to get on the field all of a sudden. And for what, a seventh rounder?? What a joke!!

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[quote=Defensewins;743213]Performance, ability, route running, ability to get open?[/quote]

i just don't understand the digs at dt. did he not look good at the end of last year? and he hasn't been on the feild once this season. and why would you throw ability in there that is the one thing he has. granted i haven't been to the park at all this year but i'd bet my savings on dt vs galloway straight up in any agility/ability training any day of the week

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[quote=Defensewins;743213]Performance, ability, route running, ability to get open?[/quote]

All of the above

Devin Thomas= Epic Bust

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There are quite a few of us who knew from the start of this clowns pro career exactly what Mike Shanahan figured out even before the start of camp.

Devin Thomas is not a viable NFL wide receiver. It's just the way it is.

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This is another case of a trade rumor that will not go down...in my opinion.

Why?
Value.

A year ago we could have gotten a 1st rounder for Haynesworth...now?...we'd be lucky to get a 2nd...likely a 3rd.

DThomas at the end of the year could have gotten us a 3rd or so....but now...due to the fact that he cant crack the starting lineup with the weak recievers we have...we'd be lucky to get a 5th.

Why is their trade value dropping? Because both have essentially been demoted. You trade your players when they are doing well, not after dogging them publicly or demoting them.

The trade value DThomas now has that is a bit suprising is his kickoff return numbers. If a team needs a #2, #3 reciever AND a kickoff returner, we may be able to get a 4th...
I hope the Skins dont consider anything less than that because his value on this team is at least that.

Of course, if we can get VJ for Haynesworth AND Thomas, that would be a good deal...perhaps the Skins are trying to do a trade that does not have us relinquishing any draft picks.

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And just think about it, we passed on DeSean Jackson, Calais Campbell, and Eddie Royal, Ray Rice and Brandon Flowers for Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly...

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We also passed on James Hardy, Jerome Simpson, Limas Sweed, Dexter Jackson...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;743224]And just think about it, we passed on DeSean Jackson, Calais Campbell, and Eddie Royal, Ray Rice and Brandon Flowers for Devin Thomas and Malcolm Kelly...[/quote]

In fairness, DT and MK were the top rated WRs that year according to Kiper

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[quote=skinsnut;743222]This is another case of a trade rumor that will not go down...in my opinion.

Why?
Value.

[B]A year ago we could have gotten a 1st rounder for Haynesworth...now?...we'd be lucky to get a 2nd...likely a 3rd.[/B]

DThomas at the end of the year could have gotten us a 3rd or so....but now...due to the fact that he cant crack the starting lineup with the weak recievers we have...we'd be lucky to get a 5th.

Why is their trade value dropping? Because both have essentially been demoted. You trade your players when they are doing well, not after dogging them publicly or demoting them.

The trade value DThomas now has that is a bit suprising is his kickoff return numbers. If a team needs a #2, #3 reciever AND a kickoff returner, we may be able to get a 4th...
I hope the Skins dont consider anything less than that because his value on this team is at least that.

Of course, if we can get VJ for Haynesworth AND Thomas, that would be a good deal...perhaps the Skins are trying to do a trade that does not have us relinquishing any draft picks.[/quote]

I am confident that is the reason we have not traded him to date. AND why we are going to keep him and showcase him a bit in the 4/3. SOOOO, if we are so inclined after the season, we CAN get a high pick for him..........

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From what I'm hearing,his head isn't in the game.

he apparently has done a video with fantasia and is all about wanting to be a TV star.

If he's not putting a 100% in his practices,he's probably ticking off the coaching staff.
If this info is true and he's got a lot going on outside of Football,I am totally in favor of dumping this guy for someone who wants to win a championship.

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[quote=Chico23231;743219]All of the above

Devin Thomas= Epic Bust[/quote]

Bullshit! You're telling me Devin Thomas can't get on the field to run a button hook? A screen? I also think Thomas scores on that catch where Armstrong trips over the turf. The guy can even block from what I've seen, so why not use him on a chip block occasionally or a crack back? Something!

How can anyone make the argument that Devin Thomas can't break a tackle or go up for a jump ball or be used as a decoy to stretch the field? Physically speaking, there's not ONE receiver on our team more gifted than Devin Thomas. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

The only conclusion I can come to is that Mike Shanahan loves veteran, warrior practice players. Look, Shanahan is a competent NFL coach but I seriously question some of his methods at times, which has ill served this team in my opinion.

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[quote=wilsowilso;743221]There are quite a few of us who knew from the start of this clowns pro career exactly what Mike Shanahan figured out even before the start of camp.

Devin Thomas is not a viable NFL wide receiver. It's just the way it is.[/quote]

He damn sure looked viable last year against the world champion Saints and one other game. And how do we know he's not viable if ain't seeing the dang football field?

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[quote=12thMan;743253]Bullshit! You're telling me Devin Thomas can't get on the field to run a button hook? A screen? [B][U]I also think Thomas scores on that catch where Armstrong trips over the turf.[/U][/B] The guy can even block from what I've seen, so why not use him on a chip block occasionally or a crack back? Something!

How can anyone make the argument that Devin Thomas can't break a tackle or go up for a jump ball or be used as a decoy to stretch the field? Physically speaking, there's not ONE receiver on our team more gifted than Devin Thomas. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

The only conclusion I can come to is that Mike Shanahan loves veteran, warrior practice players. Look, Shanahan is a competent NFL coach but I seriously question some of his methods at times, which has ill served this team in my opinion.[/quote]

Whatever!!! ROTFLMAO!!! It's gotta be 4:20 at your place!!!! THere is no way in helly he catches that pass or the one AA caught out of bounds!! JMHO and yours.
Dont keep a draft pick just cause he's a first rounder....he's way over due.:oink:

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[quote=12thMan;743253]Bullshit! You're telling me Devin Thomas can't get on the field to run a button hook? A screen? I also think Thomas scores on that catch where Armstrong trips over the turf. The guy can even block from what I've seen, so why not use him on a chip block occasionally or a crack back? Something!

How can anyone make the argument that Devin Thomas can't break a tackle or go up for a jump ball or be used as a decoy to stretch the field? Physically speaking, there's not ONE receiver on our team more gifted than Devin Thomas. It just doesn't make sense on so many levels.

The only conclusion I can come to is that Mike Shanahan loves veteran, warrior practice players. Look, Shanahan is a competent NFL coach but I seriously question some of his methods at times, which has ill served this team in my opinion.[/quote]

I think you may be exaggerating a bit here. But it I am curious to know why a player like DT hasn't given a chance in a real game. The only think though is as SS mentioned, DT has been on the trade block for a while, so I wonder if they were looking to keep him healthy? I dunno.

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All I'm saying let the man on the field and find out.