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[quote=Dirtbag359;777307]Russian Roulette is not the same without a gun.[/quote]

And baby when it's love if it's not rough it isn't fun

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[quote=SolidSnake84;777313]And baby when it's love if it's not rough it isn't fun[/quote]


“Come on, Sandy, baby, loosen up. You're too tight.”

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[quote=skinsfan69;777300]I'm not sure about that. I remember the media and announcers saying Cable wanted BG to start. I could be wrong though...[/quote]

[url=http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail?entry_id=72995]Oakland Raiders Start Of Bruce Gradkowski Hue Jackson's Good Error : Zennie Abraham : City Brights[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;777231]When is the QB not the scapegoat? It comes with the position.[/quote]

Poor little Jason!!.....He sounds like the bridegroom jilted at the alter. Worse things have happened to better QB's.

[url=http://misterirrelevant.com/index.php/2011/01/06/jason-campbell-interview-dan-snyder-mr-irrelevant/]Ten Questions With Ex-Redskins QB Jason Campbell: ‘I Was the Scapegoat’ | Mr. Irrelevant, a D.C. Sports Blog by the Brothers Mottram[/url]

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Notes to Campbell:

CP sucked ass. Why? He had absolutely no motivation to play for Zorn. Does the QB get all the credit and blame, yeah. But every QB gets that sort of treatment. It may be a tall order, but you JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT.

Snyder's a douchebag. He always was. Is it tough? Yeah. But at the same time, you aren't blameless. Giving effort is nice, but you didn't have much in terms of certain skills.
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That said, it IS rather embarassing that the players for the 2010 Raiders were more hungry than those whoever were half-assing it on that 2009 Redskins team. All that FA pursuing, coughing up picks, etc and we fielded a team less hungry than the 2010 Raiders. Pathetic job by Vinny.

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[quote=juskins;777266]Campbell should admit that he was given the keys to the castle and took it for granted. This guy is quite a salesman when it comes to marketing himself. Thank God he is gone and I wish him well with his new team.

Just wonder what his new coach will do with him after they go after yet another cast-off QB. Of course we can't say anything better because what we have here needs to be improved on.

But, at least Grossman can read defenses better than Campbell or McNabb can and gets rid of the ball quicker than they ever will.[/quote]

Campbell had what was it 5 or 6 Offensive coordinators while with the Skins not to mention and O line that was not quit hall of fame.....how dare he?
You also give your buddy Rex way to much credit he had the luxury of working with KS in texas before coming to the Skins ,DM is 10 times the QB Rex Grossman is.

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Its like a golfer who fires his caddie when he's playing bad, somebody has to be blamed and since the golfer doesnt want to blame himself its gotta be the caddie's fault. Same with JC, he's not gonna blame himself for his poor play so the natural thing to do is blame his former team.

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[quote=Giantone;777468]Campbell had what was it 5 or 6 Offensive coordinators while with the Skins not to mention and O line that was not quit hall of fame.....how dare he?
You also give your buddy Rex way to much credit he had the luxury of working with KS in texas before coming to the Skins ,DM is 10 times the QB Rex Grossman is.[/quote]

Which Donovan McNabb have you been watching this season?? He's done.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;777470]Which Donovan McNabb have you been watching this season?? He's done.[/quote]

For us he's probably done, but put him on the right team and I bet DM lights it up!

DM5/Redskins was awkward and felt weird from the start. As excited as I am that he is here, it should have never happened. I wish him all the best.

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I agree with you, and think that if Donovan landed on the right team, he may have one more good season, but he is 36, and he is no Brett Favre with all his injuries. Next year is probably his last year in football, at least as a starter.

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DM just turned 34 this fall

I think he's far from done. Despite his struggles this year he was on pace for over 4000 yards.

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Yeah I can see DM in San Fran or Minn and having a better year than he had for us. He was a poor fit for what we were trying to do on offense.

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I'd like to see McNabb back for another year...but I'd be surprised if it happens

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[quote=SmootSmack;777512]I'd like to see McNabb back for another year...but I'd be surprised if it happens[/quote]

I wouldnt be surprised at all if DM comes back.

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I don't know. Some days I think of course he will, other days I think now is the best time to get rid of him. Contractually, things are set up in such a way that this (this offseason) is the best time to move him.

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[quote=juskins;777266]Campbell should admit that he was given the keys to the castle and took it for granted. This guy is quite a salesman when it comes to marketing himself. Thank God he is gone and I wish him well with his new team.

Just wonder what his new coach will do with him after they go after yet another cast-off QB. Of course we can't say anything better because what we have here needs to be improved on.

But, at least Grossman can read defenses better than Campbell or McNabb can and gets rid of the ball quicker than they ever will.[/quote]
Rex Grossman is a backup quarterback for a reason. His nickname should be, FUMBLE! That's exactly what happens when he is hit. McNabb is done in DC. The Skins need a new signal caller. Grossman is a stopover.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777530]I don't know. Some days I think of course he will, other days I think now is the best time to get rid of him. Contractually, things are set up in such a way that this (this offseason) is the best time to move him.[/quote]

Yeah, just going off how his contract is set up, seems more than likely he won't be here next year.

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It's a shame the way it's gone down with Mcnabb becasue if they improve the team he will easily be the best option available to hold down the fort until our draft pick QB is ready. my fear is that they will be an improved team across the board and it won't matter becasue they are starting a turnover machine at QB. McNabb for all his faults is much better at taking care of the ball then Rex. Rex makes plays for both teams and that results in losses usually.

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Bottom line....We weren't going anywhere with Campbell and we're not going anywhere with McNabb. There's a reason why the Eagels let him go to a team WITHIN the division..along the way stealing two draft picks.

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Jason Campbell started his career with a team run by Vinny Cerrato and Danny Boy Snyder.

Now he on a team run by Al Davis.

I wonder what the next point on that career arc might be...

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I don't believe McNabb is done as a QB, but I do believe he is done in D.C.

I would be very surprised if he is back next year, and according to his contract, it would make me think that the Redskins would not think twice about trading him off before next season begins.

We all can agree that Rex Grossman is not the answer either. Although he had some good moments, he turned the ball over way too many times, and that is not getting it done either. What was it? Six TDs to ten INTs, or something like that?

Then again, if an improved offensive line, and two solid running backs in the backfield, who knows? Maybe Rex would shine in season two? Maybe even McNabb IF he did stay? Either way, either guy, they are nothing more than stop gaps until the 'skins draft another QB with franchise potential.

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[quote=skinsguy;777570]I don't believe McNabb is done as a QB, but I do believe he is done in D.C.

I would be very surprised if he is back next year, and according to his contract, it would make me think that the Redskins would not think twice about trading him off before next season begins.

We all can agree that Rex Grossman is not the answer either. Although he had some good moments, he turned the ball over way too many times, and that is not getting it done either. What was it? Six TDs to ten INTs, or something like that?

Then again, if an improved offensive line, and two solid running backs in the backfield, who knows? Maybe Rex would shine in season two? Maybe even McNabb IF he did stay? Either way, either guy, they are nothing more than stop gaps until the 'skins draft another QB with franchise potential.[/quote]

Rex definitely is not the long term answer.

7 TD to 4 INT this year

4 lost fumbles though

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[quote=Mattyk;777575]Rex definitely is not the long term answer.

7 TD to 4 INT this year

4 lost fumbles though[/quote]

Those numbers sound better, I will go with them! :)

It will be interesting come April!

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[quote=Mattyk;777575]Rex definitely is not the long term answer.

7 TD to 4 INT this year

4 lost fumbles though[/quote]

Extrapolated to 16 games:

4,715 yds, 37 TDs, 21 INTs, 21 fumbles lost, sacked 43 times, 32 rushing yds

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[quote=Buster;777629]Extrapolated to 16 games:

4,715 yds, 37 TDs, 21 INTs, 21 fumbles lost, sacked 43 times, 32 rushing yds[/quote]

Probably would still wind up equaling a 6-10, maybe 7-9 record, albeit with more points!

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[quote=Buster;777629]Extrapolated to 16 games:

4,715 yds, 37 TDs, 21 INTs, 21 fumbles lost, sacked 43 times, 32 rushing yds[/quote]

So you're saying he'd set franchise records for passing yards and TDs? Championship!

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;777569]Jason Campbell started his career with a team run by Vinny Cerrato and Danny Boy Snyder.

Now he on a team run by Al Davis.

I wonder what the next point on that career arc might be...[/quote]

The Intense Football League

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[quote=tryfuhl;777697]The Intense Football League[/quote]
Play-by-play guy for NFL Network with Matt Millen as the color commentator.

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I think the bottom line is JC was better than any QB the Redskins had on the roster in 2010. Frankly it surprised me. But nonetheless he has every right to call out the franchise...it's ownership and front office was an embarrassment to the sport throughout Jason's tenure. Whether that will change still remains to be seen.

...I will say things have worked out better for JC than I expected. He's on a better team (talent wise certainly and probably overall) now and considering the severe lack of QB talent in FA and the draft he's likely to play football for several more years. He should sit back and smile :)

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;777569]Jason Campbell started his career with a team run by Vinny Cerrato and Danny Boy Snyder.

Now he on a team run by Al Davis.

I wonder what the next point on that career arc might be...[/quote]

Only Dallas could be worse than Oakland.

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[quote=hail_2_da_skins;777241]I don't see anything wrong with his statements. He was the scapegoat. The team had a circus organization, decimated with injuries, had a poor receiving core, had no feature running back, and one of the worse offensive lines in the league, yet he was expected to take them to the playoffs. Unrealistic. I said it then and I'm saying it again, Campbell was not the problem. He needed a better supporting cast. Getting McNabb was a waste. Campbell would have done the same job and that third round draft pick could have been used on a position player that could help the team in the long run. Now the Skins have to rebuild at quarterback, all over again.[/quote]

Nailed it! I couldn't agree more. :food-smil

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Campbell was not the [U]only[/U] problem. But it's not like he was without faults. Whatever, what's done is done. Time to move forward

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I rooted for JC this year, and I also rooted for D. McNabb. The offensive line was a big big problem while Jason was here, yet Jason got the blame, so I think he's right about being the scapegoat. Donovan could say the same thing and there were a lot of problems with the offensive line while he was the QB. So Jason was the scapegoat, just as Donovan was the scapegoat this year.

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[quote=JLee9718;777904]I rooted for JC this year, and I also rooted for D. McNabb. The offensive line was a big big problem while Jason was here, yet Jason got the blame, so I think he's right about being the scapegoat. Donovan could say the same thing and there were a lot of problems with the offensive line while he was the QB. So Jason was the scapegoat, just as Donovan was the scapegoat this year.[/quote]

I will say this. The O-Line was obviously a big problem. However that was little excuse for McNabb to have the type of year he did. I remember during the Titans game when he had all day to throw yet he still couldn't hit receivers in stride. The worse play being on the interception to Galloway over the middle of the field after McNabb stood untouched in the pocket for somewhere around 7 or 8 seconds right when we had been driving down the field. And this wasn't one of those plays were Galloway wasn't at fault.

Also keep in mind McNabb was coming off a year where he had a 92 QB rating after 13.5 games with 35 sacks. Yet this year he posted a 77 rating in 13 games with 37 sacks. It's not like his time to throw was a radically different compared to last year. Maybe it was the system, maybe it was the fact that Desean Jackson was replaced by Santana Moss, but he didn't have a huge drop in quality when it came to pass catchers.

Anyway my point is if McNabb was the QB we thought he was he would have been able to do a bit more with the situation he was in. He might not have posted a 20-10 3,500 yard 8.0 year, but his numbers and the offensive production should have been more respectable.

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[quote=SmootSmack;777786]Campbell was not the [U]only[/U] problem. But it's not like he was without faults. Whatever, what's done is done. Time to move forward[/quote]


Agreed.

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So he plays for the Raiders, and he loves it. Way to go Jackson. When he was here he was ALMOST replaced ONCE. ONE offseason his starting job wasn't as secure as he wanted it to be. He was drafted to be The Guy. He jumped over Patrick Ramsey who I think really was the one who got the shaft if anyone did. Never mentions how the FO loved him then does he ?

Sent Brunell to the bench and was christened as The Washington Redskins Starting QB. Plays and loos ok but all he needs is to get _____. Get's hurt while the team is on their way out of the playoffs faster than I sweat bullets when I see those Red, White, and Blue lights flashing in my rearview.

Todd Collins comes in and takes the Skins to the playoffs defeating some pretty good teams and that offseason he DOES NOT HAVE TO COMPETE FOR HIS JOB ! Get this again, does not have to compete. He had what 3-4 years where he didn't have to look over his shoulder but he was treated unfairly during his tenure.

His last season with the team was the only one where it looked like he would be replaced. How that turned into his entire Redskins career is confusing. Or I guess the fact that everyone can't remember what happened is the most confusing.

It was one offseason folks. Just one.

As I said before, I wish him peace and happiness.

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People need to get over Campbell, period. It's like an obsession. Can't wait for the obsessive Haynesworth threads next season (when he's somewhere else).