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Robinson kelly and stallworth will not make this team.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;814278]Clearly, they were unhappy with the production from the spot last year. But, I'm with GTripp - how many you keeping and who the hell are you cutting. Are they hoping to stash a couple of the rookies on the PS?

I count 10 "roster worthy" WR's before signing Edwards. Seems to me, Stallworth, Gaffney, Kelly and Banks are not likely to make it out of the pre-season.

Moss
Stallworth (FA)
Gaffney (FA)
M. Kelly
A. Anderson
Banks (2)
Austin (2)
Hankerson (R)
Paul (R)
Robinson (R)[/quote]And they could be signing Braylon Edwards as soon as the Sidney Rice domino falls.

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Was Gaffney in Denver with Shanahan? Don't know what to make of this as I really liked Jarmon, and thought he had good potential.

How can you not have brought in at least one center? I just don't get it.

Re: Redskins Trade Jeremy Jarmon
 

gaffney isnt that bad i live in CO and see him a lot. makes some good catches for the broncos

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[quote=SmootSmack;814253]I get the feeling at least a couple of WR will be cut this weekend, just my feeling. Banks and Kelly probably should be the most concerned, but perhaps even Robinson and Paul.

I realize there isn't much sympathy for NFL players but this to me is representative of the realities of playing in the league. [B]Jarmon has done everything asked of him-lose weight to play LB, gain weight to play on the line, lose weight again, learn this position, learn that position, all while rehabbing from a major injury...only to be sent packing just weeks away from the start of the season. And if he had kids in school, the start of the school year.[/B]
[B]I wish Jarmon well[/B]

I like the Donte move, I don't understand this one[/quote]

Agreed, one of the reasons I liked the guy. I hope he catches on. He never seemed to be a fit here and may benefit from playing a straight up 4-3 DRE position.

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[quote=Mechanix544;814277]well, here we go, another veteran on the wrong side of 30..............[/quote]

...for a guy we were going to cut.


Remember that trade with the Ravens last year when we traded them a guy we were going to cut? I'd say it worked out pretty well.

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[quote=NC_Skins;814287]...for a guy we were going to cut.


Remember that trade with the Ravens last year when we traded them a guy we were going to cut? I'd say it worked out pretty well.[/quote]It's a good comp to be sure.

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Jarmon truly had no place here, just wish we had gotten a bit more in return for him. But Gaffney for a supplemental pick with no place on our team...that's not so bad a trade really.

I'm not even sure how safe Armstrong is right now

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;814280]i hope youre being sarcastic. all the moves we've made are very vinny-esque to me. and Jarmon >> Gaffney. I hope it wasnt a straightup trade but we get some sort of conditional pick out of it. otherwise, we got majorly screwed.[/quote]

2010 - 65 receptions/875 yds/2 TDs (DEN)
2009 - 54/732/2 (DEN)
2008 - 38/468/2 (NE)
2007 - 36/449/5 (NE)


Good numbers for a #3 WR.

Jarmon doesn't seem to fit the 3-4 well. Denver is moving to a 4-3 this year...which is why they took him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;814283]How can you not have brought in at least one center? I just don't get it.[/quote]Don't forget: all this FA activity is still an elaborate ruse to tank the season. Rabach is really the only piece that is required to do so.

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We've gone this far into this crazy week and we've gained players and draft picks (for MCNabb) and haven't lost any picks and haven't handed out any Archuletta contracts either. I'd say we're doing pretty good.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;814283]Was Gaffney in Denver with Shanahan? Don't know what to make of this as I really liked Jarmon, and thought he had good potential.
[/quote]

Nope, came the year after, was in NE in 2008.

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How many WR's do we need? Damn.

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[quote=SmootSmack;814289]Jarmon truly had no place here, just wish we had gotten a bit more in return for him. But Gaffney for a supplemental pick with no place on our team...that's not so bad a trade really.

[B]I'm not even sure how safe Armstrong is right now[/B][/quote]

You took the words right out of my mouth. The only guarantees at this point are Hankerson and Moss.

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I wonder if Rosenhaus has any guards or centers as clients...

"Chris Russell
Jabar Gaffney is a client of @RosenhausSports - #Redskins have @EighttoDaNine @MrArmstrong13, @DonteStallworth , Gaffney, @HankTime85 w/Drew"

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[quote=Alvin Walton;814294]We've gone this far into this crazy week and we've gained players and draft picks (for MCNabb) and haven't lost any picks and haven't handed out any Archuletta contracts either. I'd say we're doing pretty good.[/quote]Yeah. We're ahead in the picks ledger since the 2011 draft. It's an important mark for a team that is rebuilding. Or at least should be.

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All we need to do now is bring in Marko Mitchell and the WR circle will be complete.

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Deep breath folks:

espn_nfceast ESPN Blogs NFC East
Sure. Jarmon not a 3-4 DL. Gaffney an upgrade at WR. RT @JECKHART83 @espn_nfceast do you think the trade with the broncos is a good move

TKextremeskins TK
And that WRs have to learn ALL wr routes under kyle. Season starts in about a month.

LL56xtremeskins LL
People need to remember that we are coming out of a lockout. Veteran wrs will be needed in the early goings.

[URL="https://twitter.com/#%21/Rich_Tandler"]Rich_Tandler[/URL] Rich Tandler
Redskins have 12 WR's on the roster (not counting Roydell Williams, who is still under contract). That's about right in a 90-man camp.

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[quote=Mattyk;814302]TKextremeskins TK
And that WRs have to learn ALL wr routes under kyle. Season starts in about a month.

LL56xtremeskins LL
People need to remember that we are coming out of a lockout. Veteran wrs will be needed in the early goings.[/quote]


That really is the key. These young guys didn't get to go through OTAs and were robbed out of the experience. They'll have to step up big time to beat out the vets on the learning curve.

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[quote=SmootSmack;814289]Jarmon truly had no place here, just wish we had gotten a bit more in return for him. But Gaffney for a supplemental pick with no place on our team...that's not so bad a trade really.

[B]I'm not even sure how safe Armstrong is right now[/B][/quote]

Agreed. Maybe we loved him but the Shanny's felt they could do better. After all, the bar for being a stand-out in last year's offense was not set very high.

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[quote=GTripp0012;814292]Don't forget: all this FA activity is still an elaborate ruse to tank the season. Rabach is really the only piece that is required to do so.[/quote]

funniest thing i've seen today

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[quote=skinsfan69;814232]The Redskins offically have a hard on for wr's.[/quote]

Last year R/B this year W/R...same order of disposal, waiting for the impact signing.

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oh well lol No edwards

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why is everyone in such an uproar over WR's .. yeah we drafted some "potential" talent .. how has that worked out for us over the last decade ? Are you kidding me. Gaffney is not Joey Galloway, he played nice last year and i'm sorry but was Jarmon "lighting" it up ? Wouldn't you rather have a crop of WR's that you can actually CUT because you have talent instead of picking up arena league guys before week 1. No offense to AA.

Moss
AA
Hankerson
Gaffney
Stallworth or Kelly is cut
Banks

Austin - PS

What's the problem here ?

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[quote=DCtoAZ;814324]why is everyone in such an uproar over WR's .. yeah we drafted some "potential" talent .. how has that worked out for us over the last decade ? Are you kidding me. Gaffney is not Joey Galloway, he played nice last year and i'm sorry but was Jarmon "lighting" it up ? Wouldn't you rather have a crop of WR's that you can actually CUT because you have talent instead of picking up arena league guys before week 1. No offense to AA.

Moss
AA
Hankerson
Gaffney
Stallworth or Kelly is cut
Banks

Austin - PS

What's the problem here ?[/quote]Well, you've released three Shanahan draft picks between the 2010 and 2011 drafts for guys like Gaffney and Stallworth.

If that's not a problem to you, then there is no rebuilding occurring. The future is indeed now. Beck to the future.

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Peter King likes the move...

"Peter King
Love the Gaffney trade for Washington. Sure-handed possession guy, excellent route-runner. Brady loved him."

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[quote=DCtoAZ;814324]why is everyone in such an uproar over WR's .. yeah we drafted some "potential" talent .. how has that worked out for us over the last decade ? Are you kidding me. Gaffney is not Joey Galloway, he played nice last year and i'm sorry but was Jarmon "lighting" it up ? Wouldn't you rather have a crop of WR's that you can actually CUT because you have talent instead of picking up arena league guys before week 1. No offense to AA.

Moss
AA
Hankerson
Gaffney
Stallworth or Kelly is cut
Banks

Austin - PS

What's the problem here ?[/quote]

Cut Stallworth AND Kelly, Austin makes the team...Niles Paul to PS.

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Niles Paul will make a more durable kick returner.
Cut Banks.

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Gaffney will make this team, be our slot

Re: Redskins Trade Jeremy Jarmon
 

[quote=DCtoAZ;814324]why is everyone in such an uproar over WR's .. yeah we drafted some "potential" talent .. how has that worked out for us over the last decade ? Are you kidding me. Gaffney is not Joey Galloway, he played nice last year and i'm sorry but was Jarmon "lighting" it up ? Wouldn't you rather have a crop of WR's that you can actually CUT because you have talent instead of picking up arena league guys before week 1. No offense to AA.

Moss
AA
Hankerson
Gaffney
Stallworth or Kelly is cut
Banks

Austin - PS

What's the problem here ?[/quote]

Paul and Robinson are PS or throw away DP's?? The field is becoming much too crowded for reps. No way all these guys can get a good look.

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[quote=Longtimefan;814346]Paul and Robinson are PS or throw away DP's?? The field is becoming much too crowded for reps. No way all these guys can get a good look.[/quote]

Unfortunately, the lockout may have caused this. I was hoping Paul would make the team, but I had not thought of the lack of time they've been able to put in. The season starts in 6 weeks. They arrived at Redskins Park YESTERDAY.

Vets may be the way to go because of the lockout, but it's a shame we can't retain these young WRs with potential. Maybe we'll keep 2 on the PS and promote them with cuts/injuries later in the season when they get caught up.

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this move is surprising. gaffney is decent, more of a possession receiver i think, but jarmon didnt fit in the 3-4.

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Rookies are gonna struggle, big time, at least early on in the season. Not sure we can expect much from the likes of Hankerson or anyone else. And even the 2nd year guys lost valuable development time this offseason. I think we're looking for guys who can play now. And if that means cutting some picks or putting them on the PS so be it.

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Maybe we are going back to the "old Ball Coach" days Fun 'N' Gun and F&ck O line.

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Not sure we needed yet another WR but if Jarmon did not fit into our plans why not get someone who was productive last year and someone we can also cut at no expense?

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Bad trade. Why trade for a WR on the downside of his career? Clear salary cap space?

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Larger roster for TC.

Weak position.

Need for competition.

"Dual mandate"

I'm not as surprised as some others.

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Well, his numbers have improved each of the last four years

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I don't understand the trade that much either but o well

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;814362]Bad trade. Why trade for a WR on the downside of his career? Clear salary cap space?[/quote]


I don't think it is a bad trade. They simply traded two "meh" players amongst themselves.

Now what is interesting is that the Skins made a trade like this during one of the busiest weeks in NFL history. Why do this trade now? Shouldn't we being using our resources on bigger fish this week? Or this all to step up something bigger?