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Apparently they are not aquainted with the "Happy Meal".........

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Every one has self respect. I think its a lesson for these ladies.

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[quote=Peter Cohan;850255]Every one has self respect. I think its a lesson for these ladies.[/quote]

Welcome to the boards!

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[quote=NC_Skins;850182]It's quite obvious who the cops thought was more in the wrong in this incident. Probably why his ass is sitting in jail on a 40k bond.


and he was fired.[/quote]

It probably has less to do with his actions and more on the fact that he was recently out of prison on parole, so getting in trouble like this is considered a parole violation and he has to stay in jail until they decide what they are going to do to him.

I find it baffling that they aren't charging the woman for assaulting that man in the first place.

But the comments by the McDonalds' owner is the most hilarious.

"Operating safe, welcoming restaurants is my top priority. I am fully cooperating with authorities in the investigation.”
They are so worried about being safe that not only did they decline 24/7 security from off duty NYPD officers, but they also hired a fresh out of jail convicted felon who had served time for a violent crime.

I'm not bashing on the guy, i'm truly not, but i'm trying to understand the decisions of the Mc-Owner who went to the college of McDonalds Hamburgerology. They are already in a hood, they have incidents in there all the time according to other news articles, so its hard to feel bad for them.

Still aghast that no charges are being filed on the woman who initially started the fight by slapping, punching, and chasing the man who initially tried to get away.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;849883]There's a lesson to be learned here: When keeping it real, always be wary of those keepin' it realer[/QUOTE]

HA, so true. Especially in this case. There are usually two kind of cashiers at McDonalds. Someone's first job, or some who is extremely unhappy with how life has turned out. I'd honestly rather take my chances throwing hands with Shane Mayweather than piss off a McDonalds cashier. You might be poking a sleeping giant with access to a whipping stick.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;850269]It probably has less to do with his actions and more on the fact that he was recently out of prison on parole, so getting in trouble like this is considered a parole violation and he has to stay in jail until they decide what they are going to do to him.

I find it baffling that they aren't charging the woman for assaulting that man in the first place.

But the comments by the McDonalds' owner is the most hilarious.

"Operating safe, welcoming restaurants is my top priority. I am fully cooperating with authorities in the investigation.”
They are so worried about being safe that not only did they decline 24/7 security from off duty NYPD officers, but they also hired a fresh out of jail convicted felon who had served time for a violent crime.

I'm not bashing on the guy, i'm truly not, but i'm trying to understand the decisions of the Mc-Owner who went to the college of McDonalds Hamburgerology. They are already in a hood, they have incidents in there all the time according to other news articles, so its hard to feel bad for them.

[B]Still aghast that no charges are being filed on the woman who initially started the fight by slapping, punching, and chasing the man who initially tried to get away[/B].[/quote]

They charged the women with menacing, trespassing and disorderly conduct.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;850184]I think initially when the women jumped the counter and came after him, he had every right in the world to defend himself.

After the women fall to the floor and they're obviously injured and are in no way able to harm him, it's changed from self defense to assault. You think they're gonna be stupid enough to come after a dude with a weapon? I don't care who you are, you pull a weapon of any sort on me and I'm out.

And shame on his co-workers. Did absolutely nothing to help him out. You don't wanna jump in front of him, but if he's wielding a weapon and bashing some womens faces in, you'd think SOMEONE would try to grab him, the weapon or the women. Around 45 seconds into the video the dude stops hitting the women, shakes his head up and down in a way that says, "Oh yeah? Now what are you gonna do" and then hits them a few more times. Its at that point I think it went from self defense to assault.

As lame as it sounds, with all the drama that goes on at fast food restaurants, I really think companies should strongly consider hiring security guards.[/quote]

I agree in a sense that it may have been self defense in the time leading up to where he got both of them on the ground but did the guy really need a metal rod to hold off two women that likely had never been trained in any form of self defense and were without weapons? And furthermore wouldn't the metal rod had been better used as a "get the f back" threat then as an actual weapon?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;850283]I agree in a sense that it may have been self defense in the time leading up to where he got both of them on the ground but did the guy really need a metal rod to hold off two women that likely had never been trained in any form of self defense and were without weapons? And furthermore wouldn't the metal rod had been better used as a "get the f back" threat then as an actual weapon?[/quote]

I agree. Like I said, if I'm going after someone and they use a weapon of any sort and I'm unarmed, I'm immediately backing off. I think this is a case where we're watching someone in the midst of losing his sense of reason. I was a psych / criminal law major so I find the entire clip interesting yet incredibly sad.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;850184]I think initially when the women jumped the counter and came after him, he had every right in the world to defend himself.

After the women fall to the floor and they're obviously injured and are in no way able to harm him, it's changed from self defense to assault. You think they're gonna be stupid enough to come after a dude with a weapon? I don't care who you are, you pull a weapon of any sort on me and I'm out.

And shame on his co-workers. Did absolutely nothing to help him out. You don't wanna jump in front of him, but if he's wielding a weapon and bashing some womens faces in, you'd think SOMEONE would try to grab him, the weapon or the women. Around 45 seconds into the video the dude stops hitting the women, shakes his head up and down in a way that says, "Oh yeah? Now what are you gonna do" and then hits them a few more times. Its at that point I think it went from self defense to assault.

As lame as it sounds, with all the drama that goes on at fast food restaurants, I really think companies should strongly consider hiring security guards.[/QUOTE]

I want to agree with you. I just don't think any of us can really tell if they were rendered defenseless or not. I understand they were injured however it's possible one or both I them had additional weapons. From the video my first instinct is to say he went to far, that said if I had just been attacked by anyone I would make sure they weren't moving at all.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;850278]They charged the women with menacing, trespassing and disorderly conduct.[/quote]

I think this is exactly his point. They hit him in the face, he backs off, then they rush him. That is assault.

When you're defending yourself in a situation like this you don't assume they lack training or more brutal weapons. People act like this guy had hours to analyze the situation. Here's the situation, two crazy bitches are rushing me. I'm putting them down the best way I know how.

Of the discussions I've seen about this, this is the only place overly in favor of the two women over the cashier, which is a bit interesting to me.

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[quote=Daseal;850314]I think this is exactly his point. They hit him in the face, he backs off, then they rush him. That is assault.

When you're defending yourself in a situation like this you don't assume they lack training or more brutal weapons. People act like this guy had hours to analyze the situation. Here's the situation, two crazy bitches are rushing me. I'm putting them down the best way I know how.

Of the discussions I've seen about this, this is the only place overly in favor of the two women over the cashier, which is a bit interesting to me.[/quote]

Yes I feel the same way. Especially now in light that she essentially got off with no charges. This guy is probably going to back to jail and it is unfair that he acted in self-defence and is now penalized.

The bottom line is when you go into some low class place like McDonalds or Wal-mart, i guess we can almost expect for something like this to happen.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;851494]Yes I feel the same way. Especially now in light that she essentially got off with no charges. This guy is probably going to back to jail and it is unfair that he acted in self-defence and is now penalized.

[B]The bottom line is when you go into some low class place like McDonalds or Wal-mart, i guess we can almost expect for something like this to happen.[/B][/quote]

That's quite the impressive leap you made there. I'll be sure to tell everyone I know that their McDonald's isn't safe and if you go there, you're just asking to be assaulted...it's their own fault, really. :doh:

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[quote=jdlea;851711]That's quite the impressive leap you made there. I'll be sure to tell everyone I know that their McDonald's isn't safe and if you go there, you're just asking to be assaulted...it's their own fault, really. :doh:[/quote]

You're taking what I said out of context. This Mc-Donalds in question was in a high crime, very dangerous area. They have had multiple indicents over the past year, but despite that they declined security by NYPD. The point I failed to make was at a place like that you are basically flipping a coin on if you get in and out without incident.

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I like how you just decided to go ahead and throw Wal Mart into this discussion

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[quote=SmootSmack;852026]I like how you just decided to go ahead and throw Wal Mart into this discussion[/quote]

It's almost like he has a Walmart vendetta or something.

Cough

[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/parking-lot/36073-solid-snake-hates-walmart.html[/url]

Cough

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[quote=SolidSnake84;852008]You're taking what I said out of context. This Mc-Donalds in question was in a high crime, very dangerous area. They have had multiple indicents over the past year, but despite that they declined security by NYPD. The point I failed to make was at a place like that you are basically flipping a coin on if you get in and out without incident.[/quote]

I didn't remember your other post from this thread, so I suppose I could have taken it was somewhat out of context. However, that context wasn't at all represented in the post I quoted...lol.

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I know every time I walk into a McDonald's or Wal-Mart, a beat-down is almost always in progress. Heck that's about the only reason to go to these low life places.

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The Walmart close to where i live has a McDonald's in it.

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[quote=mlmpetert;852157]The Walmart close to where i live has a McDonald's in it.[/quote]

they must be rapin' everybody up in there

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[quote=Mattyk;852164]they must be rapin' everybody up in there[/quote]

You could only imagine.....

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[quote=mlmpetert;852157]The Walmart close to where i live has a McDonald's in it.[/quote]

Mother of mercy! It must be a breeding ground for crime in there!

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[quote=mooby;852181]Mother of mercy! It must be a breeding ground for crime in there![/quote]

Ok I am happy to have everybody laugh at me. I re-read what I posted and I agree with you all, nowhere in there did i intelligently post what I was trying to say, i deserve the heckling. So i'm gonna try to put my thoughts on here in a more educated, controlled manner.

More often than not, the life of a walmart/mcdonalds employee is not very good to begin with. They are payed a very, very low wage, with bad hours, and it is pretty much a dead end job. Most of the time they have very poor health insurance, to the point where i once read that an average worker sometimes as much as 40% of their paycheck is gone each week because of their high health care costs, especially if they have children on the policy.

Couple all this with some of the locations they have to work in, (The McDonalds in that fine upstanding neighborhood where that poor poor woman accidentally lost a moment of self-control is a fine example) and you pretty much have a person already on the brink just waiting for a reason to lose it.

I'm sure this had a lot to do with this story, the man who dished out the beatdown was probably experiencing all of those things, and let's be honest, getting out of jail a convicted felon for a violent crime, there is not a whole lot he can do for a living, fast food or construction is going to be about it.

It is for those reasons alone why people should treat fast food / retail workers with more respect. We as a whole society treat these people like they are scum, like they are beneath us. That is why I always try and be nice to them, because you don't know what kind of day they are having, and how close they could be to completley snapping.

I live 6 miles from Winchester VA, and they have a Wal-Mart with a McDonalds in it. I will go ahead and tell you now, the customer base there and the types of people working in there, I would not mess with them. Their lives have to be miserable. They are also in a not so great area.

Hope this helps. The lesson learned is hopefully one day we can all treat each other how we would want to be treated, i know it sounds hokey but it could have saved these people in the mcdonalds.

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You won't ever have a problem with the people who work at McDonalds if you follow the simple philosophy of never messing with people who make your food. Yes I know this mostly applies to the actual sit down restaurant industry and not so much fast food itself, but whose to say if you piss off a McDonalds cashier that he won't go to the person making your food and convincing them to give you a "special order"? Just don't do it. Problem solved.

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[quote=mooby;852371]You won't ever have a problem with the people who work at McDonalds if you follow the simple philosophy of [B]never messing with people who make your food.[/B] Yes I know this mostly applies to the actual sit down restaurant industry and not so much fast food itself, but whose to say if you piss off a McDonalds cashier that he won't go to the person making your food and convincing them to give you a "special order"? Just don't do it. Problem solved.[/quote]

God the horror stories. The chicks bathing in the sink at KFC, some dude flicking boogers and snot on the pizza deliveries at Dominos.

And the movie Waiting.

I'm surprised I still have the nerve to eat at restaurants/carryouts anymore.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;852374]God the horror stories. The chicks bathing in the sink at KFC, some dude flicking boogers and snot on the pizza deliveries at Dominos.

And the movie Waiting.

I'm surprised I still have the nerve to eat at restaurants/carryouts anymore.[/quote]

Don't forget Still Waiting either, another good example. Both of those movies were pretty good. Butyeah excellent point. Honestly it doesn't bother me when I go out to eat at restaurants, mainly because I'm always nice to my server, and if they give me good service I have no problem giving them a good tip. I know what it's like to work a shit job you hate too, so I understand their predicament.

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Like my 6th grade gym teacher always said: "If you are gonna pick a fight with someone, make sure it is someone that you can beat, because when you get your butt whipped, we will have no sympathy for you."

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;852426]Like my 6th grade gym teacher always said: "If you are gonna pick a fight with someone, make sure it is someone that you can beat, because when you get your butt whipped, we will have no sympathy for you."[/quote]

And that's why I hit girls.

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^^ and kick puppies.

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We have a Wal Mart that has a McDonalds and a built in jail.

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[quote=firstdown;852566]We have a Wal Mart that has a McDonalds and a built in jail.[/quote]

My Walmart has a Subway in it. For some reason it's a very mild mannered place where everybody smiles and dances like they're in The Sound of Music. Coincidence?

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McDonalds and Wal Mart are actually 2 of my favorite places. I eat a whole lot better then i used to but i still have to have McDonalds every so often. And Wal Mart is just great.

I went yesterday during lunch and i got oil and a filter for my car, vitamins, trash bags and laundry detergent. Obviously i had to check out their sweet tshirt selection and had difficulty passing up their roll back price of 2.50 for a bottle of wine (currently working on a box of Peter Vella's Cabernet Savignon). The one close to work doesnt have a McDonalds for some reason but if it did i could do my shopping while eating a hot fudge sunday, and if theres a different cashier when im ready to leave ill sometimes get a second sunday to cap off my shopping experience while on the drive home.

I agree 100% with Snake, but i think you got to treat everyone that you temporarily transact with, with respect. I always make sure i try and engage the cashiers at walmart or if i go to McDonalds a second time i might say something to the girl like do you guys have hot fudge sundays, as if i just didnt order it. Sometimes people dont want to talk and i completely understand, but saying hi, thank you and treating people with respect that you need to work with in order to complete a purchase is just common decency.

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[quote=mooby;852581]My Walmart has a Subway in it. For some reason it's a very mild mannered place where everybody smiles and dances like they're in The Sound of Music. Coincidence?[/quote]

Subway isn't safe either!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUgtqdiiJ88&feature=fvst]Fire In the Hole: Prankster Nails Drive-Through Worker - YouTube[/ame]

I haven't heard of Fire in the Hole in some years now, but its wildly popular on Youtube. There's plenty of vids.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdxOjL5vsiE]Best Fire in the Hole Mc Donald's Drive Thru - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQnAwyQBCL4&feature=fvwp&NR=1]BEST Fire In The Hole Ever! - YouTube[/ame]



And now the new thing to do is... Coning apparently? Although its not criminal, you smash an ice cream cone into your head. Apparently this is what the kids do for fun nowadays.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4b4FH9GDg]Coning McDonalds - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ECuhTxCXU&feature=fvwrel]CONE-ING! BEST REACTION AT THE END! - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=firstdown;852566]We have a Wal Mart that has a McDonalds and a built in jail.[/quote]

The playplace isnt a jail.

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[quote=Daseal;852504]And that's why I hit girls.[/quote]

Everyone has their own reasons.

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DRave, I guess I should thank my lucky stars there are no known Subway drive thrus in NoVa, at least that I know of. But that is pretty crazy. I remember Fire in the Hole from back in the day as well, that was actually pretty funny, although I'm sure it sucked for the cashiers lol. Coning is so lame. Idk whether it's a my generation vs. younger generation thing, but really? Kids today. 'Nuff said.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;852613]Subway isn't safe either!

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUgtqdiiJ88&feature=fvst]Fire In the Hole: Prankster Nails Drive-Through Worker - YouTube[/url]

I haven't heard of Fire in the Hole in some years now, but its wildly popular on Youtube. There's plenty of vids.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdxOjL5vsiE]Best Fire in the Hole Mc Donald's Drive Thru - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQnAwyQBCL4&feature=fvwp&NR=1]BEST Fire In The Hole Ever! - YouTube[/url]


And now the new thing to do is... Coning apparently? Although its not criminal, you smash an ice cream cone into your head. Apparently this is what the kids do for fun nowadays.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn4b4FH9GDg]Coning McDonalds - YouTube[/url]

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1ECuhTxCXU&feature=fvwrel]CONE-ING! BEST REACTION AT THE END! - YouTube[/url][/quote]

Ive seen the coneing ones but not fire in the hole.Fire in the hole is not cool,somebodys going to get hurt doing that

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wow that fire in the hole stuff is asinine.

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Raymond McIntosh (The cashier arrested in the McDonalds beating case) has been released and no charges filed. The two women are still being charged with their crimes.

Good to see common sense prevail in the justice realm.

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/mcdonald-beatdown-cashier-freed-11-days-grand-jury-testimony-article-1.986141]McDonald's beatdown cashier cleared after 11 days of grand jury testimony - NY Daily News[/url]

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[quote=Daseal;865574]Raymond McIntosh (The cashier arrested in the McDonalds beating case) has been released and no charges filed. The two women are still being charged with their crimes.

Good to see common sense prevail in the justice realm.

[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/mcdonald-beatdown-cashier-freed-11-days-grand-jury-testimony-article-1.986141]McDonald's beatdown cashier cleared after 11 days of grand jury testimony - NY Daily News[/url][/quote]

Yes this makes me happy too. I have almost zero faith in the justice system, and stuff like this makes me think that maybe the system is trying to get better. Good job on the jury for reccomending his release.

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Happy to see him go free too.