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I laugh my ass of as I break the record for fastest draft pick ever if RGIII is there at 6. I wouldn't even let Roger walk away from the podium after he announced we were on the clock.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;884613]I laugh my ass of as I break the record for fastest draft pick ever if RGIII is there at 6. I wouldn't even let Roger walk away from the podium after he announced we were on the clock.[/quote]

HA! Just walk up and slap a post-it on his forehead?

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Pretty much. LOL but the great thing about this draft is that WR is probably the deepest position. Outside of Blackmon/Floyd/Wright/Jeffrey you have:

Mohamed Sanu
Joe Adams
Reuben Randle
Jurion Criner
DeVier Posey
Russell Shepard
Chris Rainey
Tommy Streeter
Marquize Maze
Marvin McNutt

No way we don't walk away without one of them to pair with Hank. I feel Criner/Rainey is the most likely duo because we liked them so much in the Senior Bowl and Rainey would replace Banks.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;884618]Pretty much. LOL but the great thing about this draft is that WR is probably the deepest position. Outside of Blackmon/Floyd/Wright/Jeffrey you have:

Mohamed Sanu
Joe Adams
Reuben Randle
Jurion Criner
DeVier Posey
Russell Shepard
Chris Rainey
[B]Tommy Streeter[/B]
Marquize Maze
Marvin McNutt

No way we don't walk away without one of them to pair with Hank. I feel [B]Criner/Rainey[/B] is the most likely duo because we liked them so much in the Senior Bowl and Rainey would replace Banks.[/quote]

Agree, like your picks, yeah Banks needs to go, I know Tommy Streeter is raw but with some work & his height he could be good.

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I'm actually really concerned about Hank to be honest. With the luck we've had in recent years, I just worry his injury crops up later in the season. But yes, if we improve the QB position with RGIII falling or in FA, I'm totally fine with a WR OR even an OT (I know, that's crazy) with our first pick.

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I am going to predict 70+ receptions 1,200 yards 8 TDs for Hank. Bold I know but he doesn't remind me of Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly who I never liked. Kelly was hurt when we drafted him. Also throw Dwight Jones in that group of WRs. If we can strike it with a WR like Sanu or Criner and a FA like Royal and Rainey playing the slot our WR core goes from weakness to strength.

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...AND youth as well...

I think he could put up those type of numbers if he stays healthy.

I still think of the what-ifs with Kelly, but I won't go there. That's like the old Taylor Jacobs stuff, haha.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;884613]I laugh my ass of as I break the record for fastest draft pick ever if RGIII is there at 6. I wouldn't even let Roger walk away from the podium after he announced we were on the clock.[/quote]

It can't be any quicker then Orakpo was selected

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[QUOTE=WaldSkins;884716]It can't be any quicker then Orakpo was selected[/QUOTE]

Keep thinking that, you think Orakpo was quick.

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So back to WR's.

DeSean according to good ole' PFT is going to get Franchised by the Eagles.

VJ isn't getting Franchised but is open to going back to SD; which I don't understand since he got into bitch fit with management sitting out 10 games to get either traded or a new contract.

Dwayne Bowe looks like he'll entertain the market and go back to KC, or KC will Franchise Tag him. Or he could go to a team I'm about to mention in a little...

Reggie Wayne appears headed out of Indy. He said recently he'd be open to playing for the Pats, but he isn't a Speedy WR that NE is looking for.

Marques Colston is IMO the best option at WR for us, I think he leaves New Orleans and goes to the team I think Bowe will go to (or VJ). That team...

Jacksonville Jaguars are going to be looking for a WR, if not 2 of them. Their owner has stated that he wants to spend, to help the team. Quick, Name the Jags starting WR! Can't because they all suck. They want to help get Gabbert weapons before they can say he's a bust. I already know Bowe and Colston have been linked to them, and reportedly they will get one of them and could get both.

Wes Welker isn't going anywhere, however I don't think they franchise him. A few years ago when Randy Moss became a FA in NE, they ended up not tagging him.

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Mel Kiper put up an insider thing about replacing aging stars and the picture has Moss on it. I wanna read the article but im not an insider. Anyone wanna post it here???

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[quote=CultBrennan59;884751]So back to WR's.

DeSean according to good ole' PFT is going to get Franchised by the Eagles.

.[/quote]

Well more like the Philly Inquirer, but whatever. I really think DJax is staying in Philly with the tag. I'd be curious to see who would take him in a trade, I really doubt it would happen.

[url=http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20120212_The_options_involving_DeSean_Jackson.html]Inside the Eagles: The options involving DeSean Jackson[/url]

[quote=musicmaster45;884753]Mel Kiper put up an insider thing about replacing aging stars and the picture has Moss on it. I wanna read the article but im not an insider. Anyone wanna post it here???[/quote]

Here ya go...

Santana Moss
Urgency Meter: 3
He hasn't really slowed down, but Moss will be 33 to start the 2012 season and it's pretty clear to everybody that Washington needs to add better options in the passing game. Moss may have a few more good seasons left, but if he's not around, a weak unit becomes pretty barren, so I expect the Skins to look for help within the first few rounds of the draft. However, they could also look for a big name in a potentially deep free agent class at wide receiver.

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[quote=biffle;884383]If we do end up getting Griffin, whose strength is the deep pass, I would hope that we are smart enough to keep Armstrong, whose stregth is as a deep threat.[/quote]

Once the league learned about him he stoppead being open.. well.. he did get open some... but he wasn't seen by the guy tossing the pigskin

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This makes sense for both sides

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/12/reggie-wayne-hasnt-heard-from-colts-open-to-playing-for-patriots/]Reggie Wayne hasn’t heard from Colts, open to playing for Patriots | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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Thanks Ruhskins. I thought it would be better but it wasn't sorry

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VINCE JACKSON HANDS DOWN. Younger, faster, same hands... Wayne used to get scared when ST closed in... n thats it.

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[quote=bertoskins2;884379]if we get a new QB (Peyton or RG3) we need to get these 2 studs

1. Vincent Jackson from the Chargers
2. Reggie Wayne from the colts

This will be awesome with moss gafney and armstrong.[/quote]

Wayne is no longer a stud; his time has come and gone.

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Heard Moss was unretired? could he be a possibility?

In my eyes VJax would be task number one for our front office. Weve been begging for another WR for awhile. Not Gaffney or Stallworth A REAL RECIEVER

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[quote=Skins4L;884983]Heard Moss was unretired? could he be a possibility?

In my eyes VJax would be task number one for our front office. Weve been begging for another WR for awhile. Not Gaffney or Stallworth A REAL RECIEVER[/quote]

If we get PM, I'd like for us to get VJax, Bowe, or Colston. I think VJax may be the more expensive out of that trio, Bowe the youngest, and Colston probably the least expensive. Can't go wrong with any of them.

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[quote=Skins4L;884983]Heard Moss was unretired? could he be a possibility?

In my eyes VJax would be task number one for our front office. Weve been begging for another WR for awhile. Not Gaffney or Stallworth A REAL RECIEVER[/quote]

The four letter network reported today that Moss may very well be headed back to New England!

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[quote=redskin29633;885127]The four letter network reported today that Moss may very well be headed back to New England![/quote]

This would be interesting. Didn't he beg Belichick to take him back after they traded him?

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[quote=DC Tailgate;884525]Not really. Hankerson is easily better than both of them, which says a lot when he didn't even play half a season. Niles Paul could replace Armstrong and get a similar outcome in performance.[/quote]
Sure we [I][B]hope[/B][/I] that Hankerson could [I][B]potentially[/B][/I] be as good or better then Moss or Armstrong.
We all [I]hope[/I] that Hankerson develops into a solid NFL WR.
But at this juncture to say that Hankerson is better then Moss and Armstrong is more then a bit premature.
Even though his season was truncated due to injury; he couldn't crack the starting line-up until week 7 and didn't have an impact til week 10.

Let's not use last year as a referendum on Moss abilities especially considering the dude broke his [I][B]hand[/B][/I] which is kinda important for a WR.
In 2010 just one short season ago a healthy Moss put up these numbers:
[I][B]93[/B][/I] catches for [I][B]1115[/B][/I] yards [I][B]both[/B][/I] top 10 numbers.

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I think this wide receiver free agent class is mostly fools gold, though I have a hard time shooting holes in the idea that Stevie Johnson would be a bad investment for any team. He's 26 and runs routes like he's been in the league for eight years.

The best value on the market is probably Randy Moss. There's up to 10 guys who are going to get more on the FA market then him, but there's not yet 20 guys in the league who are better receivers than Randy Moss.

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[quote=GTripp0012;885156]I think this wide receiver free agent class is mostly fools gold, though I have a hard time shooting holes in the idea that Stevie Johnson would be a bad investment for any team. He's 26 and runs routes like he's been in the league for eight years.

The best value on the market is probably Randy Moss. There's up to 10 guys who are going to get more on the FA market then him, but there's not yet 20 guys in the league who are better receivers than Randy Moss.[/quote]

I had mentioned Stevie Johnson before, someone mentioned that he may have a mild case of the dropsies. If the Bills are foolish enough to let him go, I wouldn't mind having him.

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[quote=Ruhskins;885160]I had mentioned Stevie Johnson before, someone mentioned that he may have a mild case of the dropsies. If the Bills are foolish enough to let him go, I wouldn't mind having him.[/quote]

No way, that guy is a douche bag.

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Quick question.... when was the last time an offensive player "ripped players heads off"? Especially a WR?

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/13/randy-moss-says-hes-coming-to-tear-somebodys-heads-off-man/]Randy Moss says he’s “coming to tear somebody’s heads off, man” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

DL- yes.
CB- yes.
FS/SS- yes.

WR- uh... no.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;884611]If RGIII fell to us at 6, is Flynn still your choice OR would you reach for Weeden there?[/quote]

I don't think RGIII would fall that far. The farthest I see him falling is 5 and at that point the team among Seattle and Miami without a QB on draft day suddenly comes into play (likely Seattle). Sure St. Louis would be willing to deal with those teams to but it seems that they're not to keen on dropping to far in this draft.

Then again we don't really know what Seattle is going to do. They could easily draft Tannehill, Osweiler, maybe even Foles from their spot at 11 or 12. I say this because they drafted a 3rd round prospect last year 25th overall in James Carpenter.

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Not much of a surprise here, but here is Shefter saying Bowe will likely get the franchise tag.

My bad...edit...here's the link.

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7615420/source-kansas-city-chiefs-franchise-dwayne-bowe-two-sides-reach-deal]Source -- Kansas City Chiefs will franchise Dwayne Bowe if two sides can't reach deal - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;888889]Not much of a surprise here,[B] but here is [/B]Shefter saying Bowe will likely get the franchise tag.[/quote]

Where? I can't find it. lol.

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[quote=Chico23231;884391][B][I][U]Garcon is the better receiver to sign from Indy.[/U][/I][/B] VJax is probably not an option if the rumors are no WRs with issues, but I do like his route running and play making ability in traffic. Id say no to Wayne.

AA is not making the team.[/quote]

Best post Ive read all day. U get Hankerson, Garcon and gaffney. Davis as your TE,cooley in on twin TE sets.

With a Peyton manning or RG3 tossing the rock, this could suddenly become a quite prolific offense.................HURRY UP DRAFT......

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According to the Washington Post Hankerson had surgery to repar a torn labrum in his hip last Tuesday. He expects to be ready for training camp...one can only hope.

All in all, not good news, and it makes getting a top wide receiver even more important for us.

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At WR I think we need to add at least two. We need some depth once a guy goes down with injury which is bound to happen. I am still into adding Eddie Royal as well.

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I dont want to see any ex colt player beside Peyton IF we were to sign him. No Reggie Wayne, hes old, weve seen that before. I want us to hit them with something theyve never seen.

But regardless if its Manning, RGIII, Luck, whoever... I do want us to SIGN VJAX... he really is the best WR available and hed make such an impact.

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I am not a fan of the redskins but i have gotten to know the team very well because of a mock draft game I play on my teams board.

I do not think Reggie Wayne is a good fit as a redskin his best days are behind him and he just doesnt seem like he would fit.

Vincent jackson is a guy who needs a lot of touches to be happy and could clash with Shanahan.

Stevie Johnson would probably be the best choice if he hits the market.

Once I get my 10 posts ill show you guys what I did what the Redskins in that mock draft type game.

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Well if we trade up for RGIII then we might as well forget a decent WR in the draft. Hopefully we can pick up a qualified WR in FA. Here is some news on that end though...

[url=http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/redskins_hoping_to_address_receiver_position_in_free_agency/10136545]Redskins hoping to address receiver position in free agency[/url]

[QUOTE]According to ProFootballWeekly.com, the Washington Redskins are looking to add a wide receiver via free agency that can become an instant starter.

If they aren’t able to sign a viable receiver in free agency, they would then likely turn to the draft to fill one of the biggest needs on their roster.

The one name I heard as a possibility for the Redskins is Colts wide receiver Pierre Garcon, who just turned down a five-year $35 million offer from the Colts.

Also if the Chargers don’t tag Vincent Jackson, the Redskins might make a run at him.

[/QUOTE]

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I'm not sure i'd be standing in line to beat 35 mill for garcon...

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I heart Vincent Jackson, but he's 29 and a bit too much of a primadonna. Eddie Royal is only 25. The last 10 Super Bowl winners have proven you don't need an elite WR to win it all.

The top flight guys of the last few years havent faired too well when it comes to Championships - Fitz, TO, Moss, Megatron, Andre Johnson, etc. We just need great QB play surrounded by good enough talent. No need to overreach or over pay for a WR.

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Don't want Jackson or Wayne. Jackson has too much baggage and Wayne is too old. No thanks.

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[quote=Mattyk;884805]This makes sense for both sides

[URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/12/reggie-wayne-hasnt-heard-from-colts-open-to-playing-for-patriots/"]Reggie Wayne hasn’t heard from Colts, open to playing for Patriots | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

I'm sure Wayne would do well for the Pats but they need to burner.

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PFT with some breaking news here

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/02/29/redskins-plan-to-sign-a-high-profile-receiver/]Redskins plan to sign a high-profile receiver | ProFootballTalk[/url]