Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I was hoping we wouldn't give up this year's 2nd rounder. It's like sweet and sour chicken. Don't know how to think about this yet....

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

And they took this year's #2? GD. We're gonna have to go hard in FA this year. Not sure I agree with that.

Also I want to know how the rumors went from us offering our first this year and next year, but not willing to give up our second this year, to us giving them our first and second this year as well as our 2 firsts for the next 2 years. How does that happen?

[QUOTE=mooby;894390]3 firsts and a 2nd? GD. Not sure I agree with that, although I'm a huge RG3 fan. That's crazy. I'm pretty confident that RG3 won't be a bust but damn if that won't put us in a huge hole for the next two drafts after this one.[/QUOTE]

2 1st round picks. We still have the #2 this year.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I'm too stunned to really say how happy I am about potentially having a young stud qb on our team or how mad I am about how much of our teams future we just gave away to move up 4 spots. All I know is if we finish above .500 the next 2 years it'll have been worth it, but heaven help us if we don't. The shitstorm would be apocalyptic.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

It isn't as bad as it sounds when ya say two first round picks and a #2 as opposed too 3 first rounders and a #2.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Lotus;894396]I love Griffin.

But I am hoping that this is a mis-report, otherwise we got raped.[/quote]

I agree. I am secretly hoping that they have a plan to recoup picks, like maybe trading a player or two (maybe Rak depending on what they do in FA?)

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Thought I would like to see RGIII on the team next year, but not at this price. I'm not sure how we will fill some of the other holes and continue to get young over the next couple years to help him out. I suppose they know what they are doing......hopefully.....

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Huge. Thought it would take at least the weekend and until mid week to get a deal done.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Gtothearry;894393]double post....[/quote]

wow we way overpayed. It really sucks to lose the 2nd this year

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=mooby;894398]And they took this year's #2? GD. We're gonna have to go hard in FA this year. Not sure I agree with that.

Also I want to know how the rumors went from us offering our first this year and next year, but not willing to give up our second this year, to us giving them our first and second this year as well as our 2 firsts for the next 2 years. How does that happen?[/quote]

P.M said no to us, thats how

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Gtothearry;894394]So, basically 2013 and 2014 1st round picks are gone along with this years number two.[/quote]That is correct.

Basically, this is the coach/GM saying that if he's coaching for his job this year, he might as well take three drafts and put them into one.

The fundamental problem with this trade has nothing to do with Griffin, who profiles as a sensational player. It's that the Redskins still figure to be a pretty weak team in 2012. And then what? Essentially, they go as Griffin (or, I'll say it, Luck) goes and that really hurts the Redskins going forward.

Because if Griffin isn't Cam Newton in year one, there will be a large population of the NFL world that will view him as more of a gimmick than a true, by-the-book franchise quarterback.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=redskins5044;894399]2 1st round picks. We still have the #2 this year.[/quote]

Not according to the reports I'm seeing? Everything I'm seeing says we gave up our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st in 2013 and 2014.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=SmootSmack;894404]Huge. Thought it would take at least the weekend and until mid week to get a deal done.[/quote]

Smoot thoughts?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=mooby;894409]Not according to the reports I'm seeing? Everything I'm seeing says we gave up our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st in 2013 and 2014.[/quote]

yeah but we get a 1st in return this year

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Again I hate to say "told you so! told you so!" But again I want to point out what I said a while back about how we'd give up
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Re: What is the 2nd overall pick worth?
I'm telling you all the final trade will probably be

2012 1st
2012 2nd
2012 4th
2013 1st
2013 3rd

It's going to be a lot. Unlike the Manning for Rivers trade, there was only 1 team interested, the Giants. This year we have at least 3, Us, Cleveland, and Miami. = Price goes up.
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Re: Chalk Talk with Robert Griffin III (and Other QBs)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CultBrennan59
I'm telling you all the final trade will probably be

2012 1st
2012 2nd
2012 4th
2013 1st
2013 3rd

It's going to be a lot. Unlike the Manning for Rivers trade, there was only 1 team interested, the Giants. This year we have at least 3, Us, Cleveland, and Miami. = Price goes up.
That's robbery. Let someone else overpay.


==

How do u all feel now?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=skinster;894386]You gotta be kidding me.....4 high picks for one player including 3 1sts? WTF!?!??!???!?!?!??!?!?!?!??!?!?!? I wanted RGIII incredibly badly, but there is NO WAY any player is worth[B] 3 1sts[/B] and a 2nd, and there is no way any team offered anywhere close to that. Ditka looks brilliant in comparison for getting Ricky Williams.

Any chance we at least recoup some picks, like a 3rd or something?[/quote]

Everyone needs to realize it's 2 1sts and 2nd. We swapped 1st rounders, so when you say we gave up a 1st rounder, it was for a 1st rounder, so that's essentially actually a net gain, since that swap represents four slots at the top of the 1st round.

So 2 1sts and a 2nd. I don't love that it's the 2nd this year and not the 3rd, but hey, if he ends up a top NFL QB, then who cares really? Gotta give to get.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894412]Again I hate to say "told you so! told you so!" But again I want to point out what I said a while back about how we'd give up

How do u all feel now?[/quote]I feel like you are a huge douche.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=mooby;894409]Not according to the reports I'm seeing? Everything I'm seeing says we gave up our 1st and 2nd this year, plus our 1st in 2013 and 2014.[/quote]

We are giving our #1 up this year for a higher pick. So, #6 for the #2.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Stupid. You just traded away 3 badly needed starters for one. What happened through getting more picks like NE and building steadily. This kid isn't a Manning or Elway or Luck type out of college. He is a very good QB no less, but played in a weakend Big 12 that happens to be defensively deficient most of the time. Snyder has done it again, got the fans snagged on the hot sexy pick, hoping it will pan out. I think BA and Shanny are feeling the heat so they went against the plan to save their asses. I like RG III a lot, but 3 first rounders for a still unproven commodity at the NFL level is not wise.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GMScud;894413]Everyone needs to realize it's 2 1sts and 2nd. We swapped 1st rounders, so when you say we gave up a 1st rounder, it was for a 1st rounder, so that's essentially actually a net gain, since that swap represents four slots at the top of the 1st round.

So 2 1sts and a 2nd. I don't love that it's the 2nd this year and not the 3rd, but hey, if he ends up a top NFL QB, then who cares really? Gotta give to get.[/quote]Well, I for one was planning on using this year's 6th overall pick.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=rstone1979;894387]I second this thought. I am completely stoked though and am excited to finally have a qb. Guess Shanahan was really impressed with him. We need to get some WR in free agency for him to throw too. Too bad we cant be greedy and sign Manning too lol, since he looks like he doesnt want to come here[/quote]

RGIII became even more impressive after the delusion of getting Peyton Manning finally wore off. I'm so surprised too, because so many experts around here had me convinced Peyton was chomping at the bit to kick his brother's ass twice a year and play for our Super Bowl winning coach.

That's a lot to pay for RGIII. I hope he pans out and I hope he doesn't mind us giving up so much to get him and doing so only after our first choice totally dissed us. #neverhadachance

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

This is wild. I'm excited but that is more than I hoped we'd give up. Here's to hoping our late round drafting is lights out.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;894414]I feel like you are a huge douche.[/quote]

I second that.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I would give 3 1st rounders for Luck and no one else, no disrespect to RGIII.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GusFrerotte;894417]Stupid. You just traded away 3 badly needed starters for one. What happened through getting more picks like NE and building steadily. This kid isn't a Manning or Elway or Luck type out of college. He is a very good QB no less, but played in a weakend Big 12 that happens to be defensively deficient most of the time. [B]Snyder has done it again, got the fans snagged on the hot sexy pick, hoping it will pan out.[/B] I think BA and Shanny are feeling the heat so they went against the plan to save their asses. I like RG III a lot, but 3 first rounders for a still unproven commodity at the NFL level is not wise.[/quote]I don't sense anyone in this thread is particularly happy with this trade. Even the ones who are going to by an RG3 jersey first thing Monday are doing so out of loyalty to the team, not because they think this is inspired.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=GTripp0012;894418]Well, I for one was planning on using this year's 6th overall pick.[/quote]

Instead of using the 6th, you move up four slots and use the 2nd.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;894407]P.M said no to us, thats how[/quote]

Sigh. It's like GTripp said, unless RG3 looks like the 2nd coming of Jesus in cleats the Rams will be the clear winner of this deal.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=SFREDSKIN;894422]I would give 3 1st rounders for Luck and no one else, no disrespect to RGIII.[/quote]


We both agreed on this and still do, BUT... What if Indy takes RGIII? Think it could happen?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Well, no need to watch the draft this year after #2...and the first round for 2013 and 2014.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[IMG]https://twimg0-a.akamaihd.net/profile_images/1856955325/RGIII.jpg[/IMG]

love it

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;894426]We both agreed on this and still do, BUT... What if Indy takes RGIII? Think it could happen?[/quote]

Then we take Luck. Works out for us.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

browns tried to trade for it

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I wonder what jersey number he will have. It will sell alot of jerseys

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

Couldn't three first and a second have gotten us Luck?

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=CultBrennan59;894412]Again I hate to say "told you so! told you so!" But again I want to point out what I said a while back about how we'd give up
02-29-2012, 12:44 PM #8
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Re: What is the 2nd overall pick worth?
I'm telling you all the final trade will probably be

2012 1st
2012 2nd
2012 4th
2013 1st
2013 3rd

It's going to be a lot. Unlike the Manning for Rivers trade, there was only 1 team interested, the Giants. This year we have at least 3, Us, Cleveland, and Miami. = Price goes up.
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Re: Chalk Talk with Robert Griffin III (and Other QBs)
Quote:
Originally Posted by CultBrennan59
I'm telling you all the final trade will probably be

2012 1st
2012 2nd
2012 4th
2013 1st
2013 3rd

It's going to be a lot. Unlike the Manning for Rivers trade, there was only 1 team interested, the Giants. This year we have at least 3, Us, Cleveland, and Miami. = Price goes up.
That's robbery. Let someone else overpay.


==

How do u all feel now?[/quote]

I'm going to second GTripp on this one as well. Douchebaggery is nothing to be proud of.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=Lotus;894432]Couldn't three first and a second have gotten us Luck?[/quote]If the team that had the Luck pick also had Peyton Manning, then I have to imagine it would have.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

I dont like this trade at all. I dont mind the 3 first but the 2nd is what kills it

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=mooby;894425]Sigh. It's like GTripp said, unless RG3 looks like the 2nd coming of Jesus in cleats the Rams will be the clear winner of this deal.[/quote]Not only that, but Ryan Tannehill has to bust out of the league pretty quickly, or we would have been way better off with him at no. 6.

[QUOTE=GusFrerotte;894417]Stupid. You just traded away 3 badly needed starters for one. What happened through getting more picks like NE and building steadily. This kid isn't a Manning or Elway or Luck type out of college. He is a very good QB no less, but played in a weakend Big 12 that happens to be defensively deficient most of the time. Snyder has done it again, got the fans snagged on the hot sexy pick, hoping it will pan out. I think BA and Shanny are feeling the heat so they went against the plan to save their asses. I like RG III a lot, but 3 first rounders for a still unproven commodity at the NFL level is not wise.[/QUOTE]

I agree synder has not been the best owner, but the man spends money and wants the team to win. He doesn't do interviews on espn and talk in the papers all the time like jerry jones and he still get all this crap.

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 

[quote=skinsfaninok;894426]We both agreed on this and still do, BUT... What if Indy takes RGIII? Think it could happen?[/quote]

Dude!! If that happens I would fly to OK, give you a big hug.