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[quote=Paintrain;904231]This is the biggest misconception of the Shanahans that is perpetuated by fans and talking heads that don't know what they are talking about.

Quick history lesson on Mike Shanahan's history with QB.
John Elway-strengths were rolling out, athleticism, making plays on the move
Brian Greise-strengths (loosely used term) were dropping back, pocket passer
Jake Plummer-strengths were rolling out, play action, deep throwbacks
Jay Cutler-strenghts were setting up in shotgun, reading pre snap, pocket passer

Each time he had a different QB, he adapted his offense to meet their strengths and had success with all of them. So what's happened in DC? He got a QB whose strengths (deep ball, mobility, creating plays outside the scope of the offense) were no longer strengths in McNabb and a QB whose strengths (again, loosely used term) are as a pocket passer executing the offense in a precise manner who sabotages his own success by poor decision making and ball security issues in Grossman. In the 3 game Beckoning, we saw a slightly different offense, more boots, more rollouts than we saw with Grossman. The biggest issue is none of them have been any good. Adaptability of the offense or a willingness to 'change' the offense is not an issue, it's talk radio show fodder.

To the question from the OP, I think it will be a new look for us because we will see more boots, more designed rollouts, more spread concepts but the core of the offense will be the same but better.[/quote]

Bruce Allen was on Moving The Chains today, and Pat Kirwan hit on some of these same basic points when talking about how Shanahan has changed up his scheme to fit different QBs over the years.

[url=http://www.facebook.com/siriusxmnflradio]SiriusXM NFL Radio | Facebook[/url]

There's a link to a clip from the interview on NFL Radio's FB page

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Love the new regime.....
Can't wait to see what they can do this season

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/mar/27/former-shanahan-coordinator-says-rg3-going-fit-per/]Former Shanahan coordinator says RG3 "is going to fit perfect" with Redskins - Washington Times[/url]

[quote=Gary Kubiak]“Mike likes to run the ball – everything starts with the run – and likes to move his quarterback,”...“I don’t know that I’ve seen one move like this guy in a while. He’s very smart. This guy is going to fit perfect with what they want to do – if they take him, of course.”

He expects Mike and Kyle to tweak their offense to suit Griffin’s athleticism, similarly to how he and Mike adjusted when quarterback Jake Plummer joined the Broncos in 2003. That could mean adding elements of the zone-read running game in which Griffin excelled at Baylor.

“I worked for Mike all those years, and whatever we have, we’re going to find a way to make him successful,” Kubiak said. “[B][I]Mike is very capable of being flexible and doing what a player does best. I’m sure if he ends up taking him, he’s going to study that portion of the offense he has run[/I][/B].”[/quote]Kubiak interview with Campbell seems to fit these scenario's:
[quote=30gut;903646]o the core offense/formations will remain unchanged but the [B]playcalling balance[/B] will return and the offense will look more like Houston and the traditional Mike S. Denver WCO with a heavy focus on stretch running and boot-action passing?

o the offense formations will [B]change[/B] and our offense will adopt and [U]feature some of Baylor's formations and concepts[/U], like they way the Panthers added some of Auburns formations, plays and concepts?[/quote]

Kubiak's 1st sentence struck me though: "Mike likes to run the ball – everything starts with the run –"

I wonder why he chose to mention Mike as opposed to Kyle?
Because if you look at the playcalling tendecies between Mike and Kyle, especially pass/run ratio, Kyle doesn't share Mike's run focus.


I love Kubiak's last sentence because it kinda opens the door to the possibility of more spread elements and maybe even some zone-read.

It also naturally leads to this question:

What specifically (formation/play concepts) does Griffin do best from Baylor's offense?

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[quote=30gut;904472][url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/mar/27/former-shanahan-coordinator-says-rg3-going-fit-per/]Former Shanahan coordinator says RG3 "is going to fit perfect" with Redskins - Washington Times[/url]

Kubiak's 1st sentence struck: "Mike likes to run the ball – everything starts with the run –"

I wonder why he chose to mention Mike as opposed to Kyle?
Because if you look at the playcalling tendecies between Mike and Kyle, especially pass/run ratio, Kyle doesn't share Mike's run focus.

I love Kubiak's last sentence because it kinda opens the door to the possibility of more spread elements and maybe even some zone-read.

It also naturally leads to this question:

What specifically (formation/play concepts) does Griffin do best from Baylor's offense?[/quote]

Either it was the way the question was asked or Kubiak identifies more with the Elder Shanahan as a fellow head coach and colleague.

Or secret option C he resents Kyle :D

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On the topic of this thread, I'm going to choose option C: our current offense already fits RG3 pretty well.

So I don't think Kyle will do anything with his offense that he wouldn't have done under normal circumstances unrelated to the new quarterback, but I think he's justified in keeping things similar.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;904473]Either it was the way the question was asked or Kubiak identifies more with the Elder Shanahan as a fellow head coach and colleague.

Or secret option C he resents Kyle :D[/quote]Kubiak isn't the only one to mention Mike when refering to the offense.
But when people mention Mike as opposed to Kyle it creates a false assumption about the offense.
The assumption is that because Mike like to run the ball that the Redskins are a [I][B]run[/B][/I] oriented offense when in reality the opposite is true.
Under Kyle the Redskins have been a [I][B]passing[/B][/I] team.

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[quote=GTripp0012;904476]On the topic of this thread, I'm going to choose option C: our current offense already fits RG3 pretty well.

So I don't think Kyle will do anything with his offense that he wouldn't have done under normal circumstances unrelated to the new quarterback, but I think he's justified in keeping things similar.[/quote]Here's a question I asked Dbag earlier in the thread:

Do you think Cam would have been as productive in a traditional pro-style offense?

I should have lettered or numbered the options but I think you're leaning more towards option A because option C involves a shift in the playcalling tendency towards more running or a return towards balance.

Option A is basically status quo.

An overlooked question from the OP: Do you think Griffin they'll feature Griffin specific RZ packages?

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Hopefully, RGIII get the chance to work with Mike and Kyle. If its Luck then what? We may need to discuss the possibilities of Luck being the #2.

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[quote=30gut;904479]Here's a question I asked Dbag earlier in the thread:

Do you think Cam would have been as productive in a traditional pro-style offense?

I should have lettered or numbered the options but I think you're leaning more towards option A because option C involves a shift in the playcalling tendency towards more running or a return towards balance.

Option A is basically status quo.

An overlooked question from the OP: Do you think Griffin they'll feature Griffin specific RZ packages?[/quote]I don't think basic passing principles really play to the strengths of Cam Newton. He didn't play well in the 2010 BCS National Championship game against a defense that had the speed to challenge him, didn't play well in the NFL Preseason, looked lost in the Pro Bowl.

But in the context of what Carolina was doing with him, he showed off critical downfield accuracy and pocket awareness you wouldn't have known he had watching college tape.

Cam Newton is a pretty huge conundrum. I think if you took him out of the Carolina offense and made him play in Jacksonville, he would be a huge projection at this point. I think if Carolina took the Jags approach to making it "easy" for Cam Newton, Newton would look lost and even when he completed passes the Jags wouldn't really be using their passing game productively. But with Carolina, every passing play has a chance to go for 20+ yards, and Newton basically was out there showing defenses that the only guy who can stop Cam is Cam.

To answer your question, I think Cam could have been just as productive at the start of the 2011 season playing in traditional pro-style sets and plays, so long as the focus of the attack remained downfield at the safety level. You can challenge a defense out of base personnel, obviously. But I think defenses would have caught up to him in the second half like they did with Dalton, because I think every challenge that can be raised by a pro style scheme has been answered at some point in history by a pro defensive coordinator.

I don't doubt that spread plays will eventually be answered by defensive guys, and that Cam will have some tougher days in his future, but I think the Panthers successfully put off to tomorrow that learning experience by not giving opponents a book to go to in order to shut down Weapon 'Cam."

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[quote=GTripp0012;904494] he showed off critical downfield accuracy and pocket awareness you wouldn't have known he had watching college tape.[/quote]Or that [I]some[/I] didn't see.
I thought Cam's skillset including downfield accuracy and pocket awareness was clearly evident in college.
But, that's besides the point.

[quote]I think if you took him out of the Carolina offense and made him play in Jacksonville, he would be a huge projection at this point.[/quote]I agree that Cam would have struggled in Jacksonville, in many ways they're a bad example.
I watched a number of Jags games and I thought their offense was mind numbingly static and predictable.
It would be one thing to have a static offense if your WRs could consistently 'win' on the outside, but their WRs didn't/couldn't.
Playing in that type of offense, would be difficult for any QB let alone a rookie QB forced to play early.
I bet dollars to doughnuts that Mike Mularkey will improve the Jags offense and help change the current perception of Blaine Gabbert as a QB.


[quote]To answer your question, I think Cam could have been just as productive at the start of the 2011 season playing in traditional pro-style sets and plays, so long as the focus of the attack remained downfield at the safety level.[/quote]I don't know.
I agree that Cam would have been productive in any downfield passing attack that featured play-action and 5-7 step drop Hi-Lo reads.
But, I think Cam's record setting season 4,000 yard season was only possible because of Chudzinski forethought and innovation.
Look at Cam's domination in the RZ, I don't think that is possible without featuring Cam's run-pass threat.
Which would be hard to produce with traditional pro-style plays.

Which leads me back to the RZ question from the OP that I asked in the previous post ;)
Do you think Griffin will/should change they're RZ gameplan and play concepts?



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Using Kubiak's interview as a jump off:

What specifically (formation/play concepts) does Griffin do best from Baylor's offense?

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[QUOTE]I'm torn.
I love Mike's Denver WCO.
When I think of the Mike's DWCO (bootleg/bootswap) I wonder if Kyle can ever fully commit to the run focused football that style of offense requires.


Kyle playcalling pallet has always leaned towards the pass.
And I'm not saying the above as good/bad value judgement but as an observation.
As long as Kyle is the OC I think we'll always pass the ball more.
And if we're going to pass more then why not run more spread?
Kyle has already shown some spread looks, why not take the offense further in that direction like the Bills, Bengals, Patriots and Packers?
And if Kyle is gonna add spread components why not bring them in from Baylor's offense?
Particularly the 5 wide empty sets.

Question:
Do you think Cam would have been as productive and dynamic in a traditional pro-style offense? [/QUOTE]

IMO its almost NECESSARY to pass the ball more in the NFL so I like Kyle's tendency to throw more than run. But I'm guessing that he would prefer the defense to atleast respect our run game, hopefully even prepare to defend it, so it can open up the pass even more (vs. the defense [I]knowing[/I] we are going to throw.) I wonder how much of his tendency to throw more last year was due to the fact that we just could not move the ball on the ground at all sometimes?

I think it's definitely a good idea to run more spread with the addition of RG3 and the new WRs. Looking at how aggressively we were going after WRs early in free agency makes me think we are going to see more spread this year. And for the teams that show that they can't defend it, well they will see ALOT more spread. LOL.

As a personal preference, I like the matchup problems that Fred Davis and Helu present for LBs and safeties so I like them on the field. Also makes defenses respect the run to some degree. But we could see some 5 wide sets against teams that are not deep at DB or just cant stop it. I think what we see will depend on who we are playing and that team's personell/defensive weaknesses.

I would say no, Cam Newton would not have been AS successful in a pro-style offense because he wasn't running one in college and he would have had to learn a new system very fast. I think he would have still had some success because I think he is a good quaterback but not as much success compared to running the system he is familiar with. This is why I think it is a good idea for Kyle to install some offense that RG3 is comfortable running right now.

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[QUOTE]Which leads me back to the RZ question from the OP that I asked in the previous post
Do you think Griffin will/should change they're RZ gameplan and play concepts?
[/QUOTE]

I would be surprised and equally depressed if Kyle did not explore other options in the RZ this year given our poor RZ efficiency last year. I would certainly call RG3's number here although I tend to be a [I]little[/I] phobic about him running the ball alot. I expect to see many more bootlegs, some qb draws, and maybe some option in the RZ. Especially after seeing Cam's success. Hopefully this threat will open some things up in RZ for us this year.

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Same but better. We wont have a jelly donut rolling out of the pocket this year.

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great post thanks for sharing :)

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[quote=whistler;904489]Hopefully, RGIII get the chance to work with Mike and Kyle. If its Luck then what? We may need to discuss the possibilities of Luck being the #2.[/quote]

Indianapolis has scheduled a visit for Luck and none for Griffin III. While there's still a possibility RG3 could get drafted ahead of Luck, it would be unlikely.

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it's not possible to schedule a visit with griffin in the next couple weeks

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[quote=imaskin4life;904500]I wonder how much of his tendency to throw more last year was due to the fact that we just could not move the ball on the ground at all sometimes?[/quote]I've kinda been tracking his playcalling but specifically his pass/run ratio.
And I think his tendency towards the pass has been manifest throughout his career as a playcaller.
And again, I don't mean that as a value judgement.
But specific to last year, and I believe the stats bear this out, the ground game suffered more from lack of attempts then lack of productivity.

[quote]As a personal preference, I like the matchup problems that Fred Davis and Helu present for LBs and safeties so I like them on the field. Also makes defenses respect the run to some degree. But we could see some 5 wide sets against teams that are not deep at DB or just cant stop it.[/quote]I like those match-ups as well.
Fred is one of our best receiver threats and you gotta figure he'll be a major part of the passing offense.
If they run more spread I don't see why Fred or Helu wouldn't be on the field.
[quote=imaskin4life;904502]I would be surprised and equally depressed if Kyle did not explore other options in the RZ this year given our poor RZ efficiency last year. I would certainly call RG3's number here although I tend to be a [I]little[/I] phobic about him running the ball alot. I expect to see many more bootlegs, some qb draws, and maybe some option in the RZ. Especially after seeing Cam's success. Hopefully this threat will open some things up in RZ for us this year.[/quote]Amen, bro.

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i see rg3 having a lesser career than stafford (this is being objectve). stafford obviously has the far superior arm and just overall looks like a sexy beast.

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[B]Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

McNabb says on ESPN RGIII is not a good fit for Redskins. Says ego will get in way. "Are you going to cater the offense around his talent?"[/B]

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Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

Skip Bayless asked McNabb if he simply has an ax to grind. "I do but I don't"

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[B]Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

McNabb says he was misused here and thinks Skins could similarly misuse RGIII: "You have to be in a system that caters to your ability"[/B]

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Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

It was weird when McNabb was going down list of post-Elway QBs who didnt thrive under Shanahan, he omitted his own name


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Why can't this assclown just go away? He's shitty, and nobody wants him and yet he's blaming everybody else for his lack of skill/effort he displayed in football the past few years. **** YOU MCNUGGET

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[quote=NC_Skins;905085][B]Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

McNabb says on ESPN RGIII is not a good fit for Redskins. Says ego will get in way. "Are you going to cater the offense around his talent?"[/B]

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Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

Skip Bayless asked McNabb if he simply has an ax to grind. "I do but I don't"

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[B]Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

McNabb says he was misused here and thinks Skins could similarly misuse RGIII: "You have to be in a system that caters to your ability"[/B]

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Rick Maese ‏ @RickMaese

It was weird when McNabb was going down list of post-Elway QBs who didnt thrive under Shanahan, he omitted his own name





Why can't this assclown just go away? He's shitty, and nobody wants him and yet he's blaming everybody else for his lack of skill/effort he displayed in football the past few years. **** YOU MCNUGGET[/quote]

[B]McNabb says he was misused here...
and there....and there.....
Apparently that was the case at a few other stops on the McBounce farewell tour..........
[/B]

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[quote=NC_Skins;905085]
*McNabb Quotes*[/quote]

Wow. Do you have an axe to grind Sir McNabb? Oh I do but I don't.

Now I understand part of the reason Eagle fans wanted him gone.

I wonder what QB would work under Shanahan. According to McNabb we've already eliminated Manning and RG3 as possible candidates to successfully run our offense.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;905098]Wow. Do you have an axe to grind Sir McNabb? Oh I do but I don't.

Now I understand part of the reason Eagle fans wanted him gone.

I wonder what QB would work under Shanahan. According to McNabb we've already eliminated Manning and RG3 as possible candidates to successfully run our offense.[/quote]

Maybe McNabb believes the best offense for the Shanaplan is a qb-less one. Seriously though McNabb just sounds like he's still upset about his time here. Someone should tell him to man up.

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[quote=PWNED;904925]i see rg3 having a lesser career than stafford (this is being objectve). stafford obviously has the far superior arm and just overall looks like a sexy beast.[/quote]

I can't really tell whether your trying to make serious contributions to a discussion here?? I hope not...

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[quote=PWNED;904925]i see rg3 having a lesser career than stafford (this is being objectve). stafford obviously has the far superior arm and just overall looks like a sexy beast.[/quote]

I thought you were the sexy beast? You know Stafford lusts for you and Megatron wants to make you his boy toy ... and you know you would love it.

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[quote=PWNED;904925]i see rg3 having a lesser career than stafford (this is being objectve). stafford obviously has the far superior arm and just overall looks like a sexy beast.[/quote]

I see you becoming the '[I]duty court jester[/I]' on WP but resigning in tears after a day or so.

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[quote=The Goat;905118]I can't really tell whether your trying to make serious contributions to a discussion here?? I hope not...[/quote]

my hilarious jokes are often tinged with fact and knowledgeable discussion and points. fact is, stafford arm >>>>>>>>>>>>> RGIIIs

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[quote=RedskinRat;905147]I see you becoming the '[I]duty court jester[/I]' on WP but resigning in tears after a day or so.[/quote]

hahaha im quite comfortable who i am. if youll notice i do have outstanding points on anything redskins-related (obviously anything lions related, i have sources)

just WAIT until i predict something thats going to happen for the lions.

youll have to start an entire thread just to say how awesome i am. but dont, because i already know.

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[quote=The Goat;905118]I can't really tell whether your trying to make serious contributions to a discussion here?? I hope not...[/quote]

Of course he's serious, he's a Lions fan.

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[quote=PWNED;904925]i see rg3 having a lesser career than stafford (this is being objectve). stafford obviously has the far superior arm and just overall looks like a sexy beast.[/quote]

Stafford has Megatron. That's going to make him better than a lot of QBs.

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one player does not a WR corps make.

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[quote=PWNED;905241]one player does not a WR corps make.[/quote]

Well Megatron accounted for 33% of Stafford's passing yards and 39% of TDs. I would say that is pretty significant. Not taking away anything from Stafford, but RG3 will not have anything resembling Megatron in terms of WRs here in Washington.

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I feel like talking/responding to Stafford's big fan is a bad idea...but we're all free to do as we please ;)

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If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.

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if mcnabb retired in jake plummer fashion, his "legacy" would have been much better off. of course mcnabb has sour grapes

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[quote=GusFrerotte;905369]If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.[/quote]

McNutts is an idiot, he's more mad at us than the shegles they traded you anyone with sense would be mad at them first IMO. You went to the ViQueens basically the same system you ran in Philly blunt and still looked like SH*T that proved MS & KS so right IMO.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;905369]If you are going to give up what we did to get RG III, you better try and tinker with the present offense at least a tad to play to his athleticism somewhat, without trying to get him to try and be a Vick type player, as that would be disasterous. Throw in some bootlegs, more play action, etc. I think McNabb on ESPN was mostly sour grapes, but I think he did make a good point about the Shannys making a potential mistake not trying to revamp the system a bit to play on RG III's strengths.[/quote]Getting away from McNabb a little and back to the OP...

I don't think throwing in some bootlegs and playaction would be a departure from the true nature of Mike Shanahan Denver WCO playcalling.
In a sense it would actually be a return to it.

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From the OP:[quote=30gut;903646]
o the offense formations will [B]change[/B] and our offense will adopt and [U]feature some of Baylor's formations and concepts[/U], like they way the Panthers added some of Auburns formations, plays and concepts?[/quote]

Baylor has some core concepts in their playbook and one staple is the ability to run the ball from shotgun.
They often use a [B]zone-read[/B] play where the QB reads the edge defender (DE or OLB) and makes a decision to keep it or give it the RB.

Kyle has an similar play concept/formation in his offense (although most likely a designed RB run).
[I][B]If[/B][/I] they want to make aspects of Baylor's offense part of their offense we could see a lot more of this:

[IMG]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/139/62041937862a48b48715f9f1200604ce/l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/066b47193d274a3bae6f088a49318972/l.jpg[/IMG]
Imagine Griffin keep the ball once he sees the LBs commit

[IMG]http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/ed0ad6aec3394f14ac029ad3bb8195d2/l.jpg[/IMG]
^^Once Griffin reads the crashing LBs imagine him keeping the ball and out running OLB#50 towards the rightside edge/alley as Hankerson picks up either the pursuit LB or the CB

or

Picture Griffin ducking his head in playfake to the RB and throwing over the run committed LBs
(obviously the WRs would be running routes instead of stalk blocking like they're doing in these images)

This is the type of play/formation we could see if they plan to incorporate some of Baylor's offense into a featured role in this year's playcalling.

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Good NFL zone read close-up:

[url=http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-anatomy-of-a-play/09000d5d825be2c0/Anatomy-of-a-Play-Broncos-read-option]NFL Videos: Anatomy of a Play: Broncos' read-option[/url]

Could we see plays/concepts like these next year?

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[quote=30gut;905681]From the OP:

Baylor has some core concepts in their playbook and one staple is the ability to run the ball from shotgun.
They often use a [B]zone-read[/B] play where the QB reads the edge defender (DE or OLB) and makes a decision to keep it or give it the RB.

Kyle has an similar play concept/formation in his offense (although most likely a designed RB run).
[I][B]If[/B][/I] they want to make aspects of Baylor's offense part of their offense we could see a lot more of this:

[IMG]http://a2.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/139/62041937862a48b48715f9f1200604ce/l.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/154/066b47193d274a3bae6f088a49318972/l.jpg[/IMG]
Imagine Griffin keep the ball once he sees the LBs commit

[IMG]http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/153/ed0ad6aec3394f14ac029ad3bb8195d2/l.jpg[/IMG]
^^Once Griffin reads the crashing LBs imagine him keeping the ball and out running OLB#50 towards the rightside edge/alley as Hankerson picks up either the pursuit LB or the CB

or

Picture Griffin ducking his head in playfake to the RB and throwing over the run committed LBs
(obviously the WRs would be running routes instead of stalk blocking like they're doing in these images)

This is the type of play/formation we could see if they plan to incorporate some of Baylor's offense into a featured role in this year's playcalling.[/quote]


What I'm seeing there is a 74-yard TD run.

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Gruden talks about the zone read + WCO concepts that could be possibilities for our offense with Griffin:

[quote=John Gruden]This read option combined with the WCO offense is just down right scary...no huddle offense..hey...it regulates the coverage and fronts a defense can play[/quote]
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