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[quote=JoeRedskin;929100]Here is the quote and snap analysis form Campbell



There is nothing wrong in playing to his strengths - physicality and speed. It just a question of how to diversify while doing so. [B]I think he is simply saying - "I have to be true to myself and trying use specific 'moves' for the sake of using moves isn't my strength."[/B]

For example - different styles work for different folks. I do my job in a diversified way - lots of different ways to get from A -> C in the court room. However, at 6'2", 270 with a shaved head and voice that has a naturally built in megaphone - the quiet, introspective lawyer approach would appear fake to a jury and is simply not the way for me to go. I know this and make sure that, however I present, it remains true to my natural abilities, etc. (I'm brilliant in so many other ways).

Misdirection and counters can be done with physicality and strength. It seems from what he is saying [I]and[/I] what he is doing, Rak is simply trying to find ways that allow him to less predictable but, at the same time, don't require him to "be someone else" when he rushes the passer.

R. White developed his "trade-mark" swim move b/c it worked for him. It fit his abilities and his style of play. White did other moves, but they all came from his power and less from his speed. The man was a bull rusher first and foremost and his swim and spins worked from that. Rak is more speed than bull rush so a "patented R.White" swim move may not be what works for him - that doesn't mean he isn't looking to develop (as R.White did) things that play to his strengths and help him be a better pass rusher.

At least, that's what I am hoping Rak is saying.

Let's wait and see what he comes up with.[/quote]

That's how I took it too.

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Rak's a solid player. But he's not elite. In order for him to get to that next level he needs to get to the QB more. I'd like to see the front office have Dexter Manley come work with some of the d-linemen/ OLB's during training camp.

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[quote=skinsfan69;929104]Rak's a solid player. But he's not elite. In order for him to get to that next level he needs to get to the QB more. I'd like to see the front office have Dexter Manley come work with some of the d-linemen/ OLB's during training camp.[/quote]I like the way you think, but have to disagree. Different eras, probably different techniques, even if they played the same position. Which some don't. If our guys could perform like Manley consistently, which guys like Cofield already can IMO, great.

Love the talk in this thread, lately the White/Orakpo comparisons.

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[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/aug/7/redskins-practice-report-87/]Redskins practice report (8/7) - Washington Times[/url]

good stuff...I like the talk about Niles and Shanny hiding him this preseason. The stuff about Morgan not hustling, not happy about. You cant get that contract and then not give 100% all the time. Getting called out by Shanny on the field is not cool.

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/redskins-practice-report-aug.-7/article/2504309]Redskins practice report: Aug. 7 | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

Brandon Banks standing out again. M. Hurt struggling again...jeez. Kinda tired of hearing about our fill in guys getting beat.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;929100]Here is the quote and snap analysis form Campbell



There is nothing wrong in playing to his strengths - physicality and speed. It just a question of how to diversify while doing so. I think he is simply saying - "I have to be true to myself and trying use specific 'moves' for the sake of using moves isn't my strength."



R. White developed his "trade-mark" swim move b/c it worked for him. It fit White's abilities and his style of play. White did other moves, but they all came from his power and less from his speed. The man was a bull rusher first and foremost and his swim and spins worked from that. Rak's physicality is different (White=pure overwhelming power; Rak=power/speed) from that of White's so a "Patented R.White" swim move may not be what works for him - that doesn't mean he isn't looking to develop (as R.White did) things that play to his strengths and help him be a better pass rusher. [/quote]


The big difference here JR is that Reggie White was 300lbs (maybe more) compared to Orakpo's 260 lbs. Reggie could bowl guys over with his size and speed combo which is something Orakpo simply cannot do. Reggie also had the speed to beat guys on the outside to, and the strength to use his hands to get leverage to make a move inside. Orakpo has to beat them with his speed or he's going to be neutralized, and this usually ends up with the tackle locking him in and driving him out. I don't think the NFL has seen a DE the likes of Reggie White since his retirement. People want to talk about freak athletes, that's one. No way a man that big should have that sort of speed and strength...lol Downright unfair.

This was one of Reggie's 3 sacks in the Super Bowl.

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO2r0Vm8keQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=17s]Reggie White: Heart of a Legend - YouTube[/url]

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[QUOTE]Veteran CB DeAngelo Hall got into a skirmish with rookie LT Tom Compton, of all people. Hall flared to the sideline in pursuit of a screen pass. Compton pushed him in the back, a clear penalty. Hall was not happy with that, and he grabbed Compton’s facemask to tell him so. I can only guess Hall’s message was something like:

“Dear kind sir, I insist that you cease, as your actions could be injurious.”

Compton shoved Hall, prompting coach Mike Shanahan to crack the whip. “Hey, you guys, cut it out!” he shouted.[/QUOTE]

This made me laugh

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I'm a big Tom Compton fan now.

Any rookie who rustles the jimmies of a hothead like D-Hall in camp is someone we want on our team.

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[quote=Chico23231;929242]You cant get that contract and then not give 100% all the time. Getting called out by Shanny on the field is not cool.[/quote]


Many do. I liked the exchange from him and Mike.

[quote]Shanahan said something and Morgan responded. Shanahan then yelled: “I don’t give a [expletive]!” for all to hear.[/quote]

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whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww muther****ers...lets get this get season started tonight with a blow out win against dem bills. cant wait to get outta work today, right to the liquor store and get my house-tailgating on.....**** the bills

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[quote=Chico23231;929535]whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww muther****ers...lets get this get season started tonight [U]with a blow out win[/U] against dem bills. cant wait to get outta work today, right to the liquor store and get my house-tailgating on.....**** the bills[/quote]

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Here's some of my 200 pics I took on Fan Appreciation Day.

[B]First, they came out:[/B]
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[B]Best photograph of the day, quality-wise (yes, talking photo quality):[/B]
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[B][SIZE="4"]^ OH, and I caught one of those shirts...I'm 2/2 in getting shirts from cheerleaders in my 2 trips down now![/SIZE][/B]


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[B]My son...he was very happy here:[/B]
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[B]My view of the practice wasn't as good as my endzone spot last time I went.[/B]
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Can you be my dad too?

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[B]This was my view most of the time during the action, behind the player bench.[/B]
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[B]RGIII![/B]
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[B]I love this picture:[/B]
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Great pics and cute kid you have. I'm guessing he took after his mother...lol I kid..I kid..

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[quote=RGIII;929547]Can you be my dad too?[/quote]

If you pay rent, sure.

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[quote=NC_Skins;929554]Great pics and cute kid you have. I'm guessing he took after his mother...lol I kid..I kid..[/quote]

You're right, I won't argue with that fact.

We had our 1-year old daughter there too, again, cute like mommy.

I have a photo of me and her with the Hogettes (yeah, those guys!) but I won't break the forum with my face.



Man, the forum makes the picture look weird when it shrinks them. I had an awesome view and plenty of action shots two years ago. We didn't get the same spot this time, we were on the far sideline of the second, far field where the defense practices. They moved us over the the edge of the first field near the end for 11-on-11 but the players' backs were blocking my view of the action.

Still had a great time though!

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Were you over on the Defensive side/far side by the forest? It looks like you got these shots when they pulled the ropes in during the 11-on-11 drills. Either way, you got some excellent shots. Well done.

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Yep, since we had the baby with us, we went to where there was shade, at the forest side like you said.

When they pulled the ropes over, my son and I went. Those shots with Morgan and Gomes in the rope drills, that was less than 10 feet in front of us. We were about 10-15 yards down from the water cooler that RGIII kept going to.

All we could see during the fights were a big mess of bodies running in to break it up. Looked like Cofield was playing enforcer since he's the biggest.

I'm not worried about RGIII's durability after seeing him in person. He looks small on TV but in person, he's actually pretty tall and check out his arms in those pictures I took, you can see the veins bulging out like the Hulk. He's a strong guy. He'll be fine.

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Polumbus is a giant too.



edit: holy crap, he's 6'8". I never knew.

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Football today bitches!

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Yes! Already announced it to the family during breakfast. After my first cup of coffee, I realized it was THURSDAY!

RGIII - final piece of advice for tonight...run away from #90.

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[quote=Lotus;929579]Football today bitches![/quote]

T-minus 8 hours! F'n right!

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[quote=Monkeydad;929581]Yes! Already announced it to the family during breakfast. After my first cup of coffee, I realized it was THURSDAY!

RGIII - final piece of advice for tonight...run away from #90.[/quote]

#90? Whos that Mario's 94, and Mark Andersons #93. There are worse guys out there than Chris Kelsey.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;929601]#90? Whos that Mario's 94, and Mark Andersons #93. There are worse guys out there than Chris Kelsey.[/quote]


OK, revised, run away from #94.


He was #90 in Houston...figured he could now afford to buy his old number in Buffalo too. :D

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Another camp observation...Niles Paul is built like a brick house. He doesn't look like a WR anymore. His arms are massive and he always looks angry.

Hope he doesn't fail any tests. :D

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[quote=Monkeydad;929605]Another camp observation...Niles Paul is built like a brick house. He doesn't look like a WR anymore. His arms are massive and he always looks angry.

Hope he doesn't fail any tests. :D[/quote]

I'm hoping he's our Aaron Hernandez this year.

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jeez this day is moving slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. 6 more hours muther****ers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=CultBrennan59;929606]I'm hoping he's our Aaron Hernandez this year.[/quote]

Moss is looking like he's afraid of him too! Haha.

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[quote=RGIII;929629]Moss is looking like he's afraid of him too! Haha.[/quote]

Or he is about to punch Monkeydad in the face.

Holy Shiggity! 2 hours and 21 minutes until REDSKINS Football is on tv!

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Why haven't any of y'all started a game day thread for tonight yet?

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[quote=SmootSmack;929657]Why haven't any of y'all started a game day thread for tonight yet?[/quote]

Why do that when we can post the same reactions in seven different threads?

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[url=http://washingtonexaminer.com/training-camp/article/2504950]Training camp | WashingtonExaminer.com[/url]

RG3 coming along