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Bold mine: "Jennelle Carrillo, of Cleburne, Texas, has sued the Cowboys and owner/general manager Jerry Jones after she suffered severe burns to her backside while allegedly sitting on a bench outside Cowboys Stadium before a team scrimmage[B][U] in August 2010[/U][/B]."

I call shenanigans on the whole lawsuit.

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I was wondering if marble was a good conductor of heat because it is always cold when I have touched it. Being the marble in question is black plus this info I presume it can get pretty hot.

[B][I]Marble is metamorphosed limestone, composed of fairly pure calcite (a crystalline form of calcium carbonate, CaCO3).

Yes, marble as compared to some common materials used for floor lining, is a better conductor of heat, hence appears to be cooler. This is so because its Specific Heat is 2.08 to 2.94, whereas the Specific Heat of other flooring items is lower than this ( Wood 0.12 to 0.17, Wool, felt 0.07, common granite 1.7 to 1.9). The higher the Specific Heat of a material, the faster it will transfer the heat.[/I][/B]

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Well, Dallas' plans to IR Bill Nagy backfired

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/lions-claim-bill-nagy-off-waivers-put-drew-coleman-on-ir/]Lions claim Bill Nagy off waivers, put Drew Coleman on IR | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;931303]I don't know how long she was sitting for, but if it was hot enough to give her a 3rd degree burn, she probably wasn't sitting for too long.[/quote]

I think if a bench is hot enough to give you third degree burns, you should be able to tell when you sit down on it that it's too hot. If I sit down on a bench that's extremely hot, I'm smart enough to know to get right back up immediately rather than sit there and burn my ass. With all that said, I'm no doctor, so if it can be proven she sat on the bench for a very minimal amount of time and got 3rd degree burns from it then by all means feel free to prove me wrong. Personally this just sounds like the hot coffee incident all over again.

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Nice design there Jerrah, black marble bench directly in the sun? Are these the same people that built the practice dome which was not in build code compliance? [url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4127852]Dallas Cowboys' practice facility collapses from storm - ESPN[/url], [url=http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-cowboys-canopycollapse]AP Exclusive: Firm knew Cowboys facility may fall - NFL - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

Sorry, no pass for Jerrah and the Cowboys, she should sue and win. If the facility provides a bench to sit, it endorses the fact it is safe to sit. pathetic and half ass by the Cowboys organization

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I love how last night I watched about the first quarter of the Atlanta -Cincy game and Andy Dalton whom I've watched for a good 5 years now, was being questioned by nfl scouts for not having a 'strong' arm...then last night the threw a bomb to AJ Green for a TD and said today to reporters that he can throw it 'a lot further if he needed to'

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[quote=SmootSmack;931323]Well, Dallas' plans to IR Bill Nagy backfired

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/lions-claim-bill-nagy-off-waivers-put-drew-coleman-on-ir/]Lions claim Bill Nagy off waivers, put Drew Coleman on IR | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

lol @ the cowboys and their continuing week of fail.

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Well the Cowboys whom I despise lost a solid guard (Good) but another team I despise just got a little better...
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/report-jeff-demps-picks-patriots-over-buccaneers/]Report: Jeff Demps picks Patriots over Buccaneers | ProFootballTalk[/url] Patriots (Bad)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;931341]I love how last night I watched about the first quarter of the Atlanta -Cincy game and Andy Dalton whom I've watched for a good 5 years now, was being questioned by nfl scouts for not having a 'strong' arm...then last night the threw a bomb to AJ Green for a TD and said today to reporters that he can throw it 'a lot further if he needed to'[/quote]

lotta people saying sophmore slump for Dalton...I just dont see it. Last night him and Matty Ice were in mid season form. That throw to AJ was perfect.

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[quote=SmootSmack;931323]Well, Dallas' plans to IR Bill Nagy backfired

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/lions-claim-bill-nagy-off-waivers-put-drew-coleman-on-ir/]Lions claim Bill Nagy off waivers, put Drew Coleman on IR | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]
Huge risk for the Lions. Nagy's surgery is season-ending. They are paying that much for a guy that won't play this season.

Nagy....good riddance. Part of the problem on the interior offensive line, not part of the solution. Hope Detroit has better luck with him.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;931346]Huge risk for the Lions. Nagy's surgery is season-ending. They are paying that much for a guy that won't play this season.

Nagy....good riddance. Part of the [B]problem[/B] on the interior offensive line, not part of the solution. Hope Detroit has better luck with him.[/quote]

problem[B]s[/B]

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[B]Dude, link to pictures like that.[/B] :tongue

Then someone had to quote it!

C'mon people, I'm eating my RGIII-promoted Black Forest Ham, Egg, Cheese and Spinach, this month's Featured Five Dollar Footlong right now.


I'm not even lying.

It's delicious. Pepper Jack too.

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Apparently, Brian Urlacher has had multiple knee surgeries this offseason. The last one was a scope but the Bears have to be worried, he's 34 years old. I've always respected him as a player, he's the closest thing to a Butkus/Ditka-like throwback player we have in today's game.

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[quote=Monkeydad;931353]Apparently, Brian Urlacher has had multiple knee surgeries this offseason. The last one was a scope but the Bears have to be worried, he's 34 years old. I've always respected him as a player, he's the closest thing to a Butkus/Ditka-like throwback player we have in today's game.[/quote]

In other bad Urlacher news:

[url=http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/gossip-jenny-mccarthy-splits-with-chicago-bears-boyfriend-brian-urlacher-1699694.story]Jenny McCarthy Splits With Linebacker Boyfriend Brian Urlacher | Story | Wonderwall[/url]

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You can't expect a relationship with her to be long-term.


He had some fun, I'm sure. Nothing to be upset about, Brian. Just get tested next trip in to the doc's office.


[QUOTE]"Brian and I have decided to turn our romance into an amazing friendship." [/QUOTE]They're doing it wrong. Reverse that order, kids. Shack up with your best friend.

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[quote=Monkeydad;931352][B]Dude, link to pictures like that.[/B] :tongue

Then someone had to quote it!

C'mon people, I'm eating my RGIII-promoted Black Forest Ham, Egg, Cheese and Spinach, this month's Featured Five Dollar Footlong right now.


I'm not even lying.

It's delicious. Pepper Jack too.[/quote]

U need to get your hands on one of these sweet ass rgIII vs luck t shirts before the game tomorrow. Just got an email from the team store a little while ago, they might be sold out by now.

[url=http://store.redskins.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=9257&catID=617]RG3 vs Luck T-Shirts | RGIII vs Luck Tees | QB Showdown Rivalry T-Shirts[/url]

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[quote=mooby;931335]I think if a bench is hot enough to give you third degree burns, you should be able to tell when you sit down on it that it's too hot. If I sit down on a bench that's extremely hot, I'm smart enough to know to get right back up immediately rather than sit there and burn my ass. With all that said, I'm no doctor, so if it can be proven she sat on the bench for a very minimal amount of time and got 3rd degree burns from it then by all means feel free to prove me wrong. Personally this just sounds like the hot coffee incident all over again.[/quote]

I'm sure she got skin grafts just for the hell of it.

You don't expect to burn your ass when you sit down on a bench. Spilling hot coffee on yourself, yeah the expectation is you're gonna get burned.

Sometimes people do get legitimately hurt, and sometimes yes a 3rd party needs to take some responsibility. Not every suit is trash like the hot coffee deal.

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The Jordan Shipley era is over in Cincy...guess that means he'll be here soon

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[quote=SmootSmack;931373]The Jordan Shipley era is over in Cincy...guess that means he'll be here soon[/quote]

Why would he be here?

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[quote=SmootSmack;931373]The Jordan Shipley era is over in Cincy...guess that means he'll be here soon[/quote]

With our without Colt?

LOL what happened to that guy, probably still sulking over missing out on RG3

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[quote=Mattyk;931303]I don't know how long she was sitting for, but if it was hot enough to give her a 3rd degree burn, she probably wasn't sitting for too long.[/quote]They have 3 statues in the plaza behind centerfield at Nationals Ballpark that sit on black marble bases. I made the mistake of leaning on one last summer - it seriously hurt like hell and I could imagine that if I'd had more pressure at the contact point it might have left a mark of some kind. Those things get hot as hell!

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[quote=Chico23231;931345]lotta people saying sophmore slump for Dalton...I just dont see it. Last night him and Matty Ice were in mid season form. That throw to AJ was perfect.[/quote]

I honestly feel like Cams more likely to have a sophmore slump than Andy who has the premier WR, the young physical TE and OL, the no fumble RB and the tough defense over cam who has 10 RBs an ok OL an aging but still decent WR and a defense thats still maturing.

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Pass on Shipley. Cincy not exactly with a ton of WR talent outside of AJ Green to be cutting a player who had a decent rookie year. Ton of red flags. pass pass pass

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[quote=Mattyk;931363]I'm sure she got skin grafts just for the hell of it.

You don't expect to burn your ass when you sit down on a bench. Spilling hot coffee on yourself, yeah the expectation is you're gonna get burned.

Sometimes people do get legitimately hurt, and sometimes yes a 3rd party needs to take some responsibility. Not every suit is trash like the hot coffee deal.[/quote]

I'm not questioning whether the skin grafts were legit, I'm sure she actually suffered 3rd degree burns as a result of this. I'm just questioning how long she had to sit on that bench before she realized her ass was burning. If she sat down and immediately suffered 3rd degree burns within a reasonable time span than sure the Cowboys should be held responsible. But if she sat on the bench for half an hour with her ass burning the whole time I wouldn't put that on the Cowboys.

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[quote=mooby;931383]I'm not questioning whether the skin grafts were legit, I'm sure she actually suffered 3rd degree burns as a result of this. I'm just questioning how long she had to sit on that bench before she realized her ass was burning. If she sat down and immediately suffered 3rd degree burns within a reasonable time span than sure the Cowboys should be held responsible. But [B]if she sat on the bench for half an hour with her ass burning the whole time I wouldn't put that on the Cowboys[/B].[/quote]

If that's the case she must have a crazy pain threshold

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I'm just throwing out guesses here, I haven't seen anything that indicated how long she sat on the bench. I'm sure we'll get more info if this case actually goes to trial.

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I'd bet she settles to the tune of six figures

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[quote=Mattyk;931384]If that's the case she must have a crazy pain threshold[/quote]

Actually going back to my wiki chart for burns they have 3rd and 4th degree listed as painless. I am guessing it literally burns up your nerves.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn]Burn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

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[quote=mredskins;931389]Actually going back to my wiki chart for burns they have 3rd and 4th degree listed as painless. I am guessing it literally burns up your nerves.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn]Burn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/quote]

Yeah who knows, maybe she was sitting there for a while not aware of the extent of it. Maybe it's like sitting in the sun for a while, it's not until hours later that you really feel the burn and the pain sets in.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;931375]Why would he be here?[/quote]

'tis a joke. You don't remember our buddy?

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[quote=Mattyk;931391]Yeah who knows, maybe she was sitting there for a while not aware of the extent of it. Maybe it's like sitting in the sun for a while, it's not until hours later that you really feel the burn and the pain sets in.[/quote]

If that is the case than I stand corrected. If she sat on the bench and didn't feel anything yet had 3rd degree burns when she stood up, then I definitely see her winning this case. She'll be well compensated for her injuries.

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[quote=SmootSmack;931394]'tis a joke. You don't remember our buddy?[/quote]

i need a refresher...jordan palmer?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;931400]i need a refresher...jordan palmer?[/quote]

I was supplanted as an "insider" here with someone with inside info, which he repeated several times, that McCoy and Shipley would be coming to DC

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[quote=mredskins;931389]Actually going back to my wiki chart for burns they have 3rd and 4th degree listed as painless. I am guessing it literally burns up your nerves.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn]Burn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/quote][YT]qoINTDFosCY[/YT]

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i wonder if she put the balm on?

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8278886/nfl-require-ejected-fans-take-online-fan-conduct-course]NFL to require ejected fans to take online fan conduct course - ESPN[/url]


Act up at a NFL game and you are taking a online class...lol This stooping to new lows for the NFL. Just ban them if they can't act up, why try to make a buck off these assholes and inject them back into the atmosphere?


[quote]Not only do fans have to take the course if they want to come back to the stadium, they have to pay for the it, too. Costs vary by team. The Detroit Lions and the Atlanta Falcons charge the least at $50, while the New England Patriots charge a league-high $100. When a fan completes the course, ovick's company forwards that information to the club.[/quote]




[quote=mlmdub130;931361]U need to get your hands on one of these sweet ass rgIII vs luck t shirts before the game tomorrow. Just got an email from the team store a little while ago, they might be sold out by now.

[url=http://store.redskins.com/cart.php?m=product_detail&p=9257&catID=617]RG3 vs Luck T-Shirts | RGIII vs Luck Tees | QB Showdown Rivalry T-Shirts[/url][/quote]

$35 for that?? LOLOLOLOL


[quote=Mattyk;931379]With our without Colt?

LOL what happened to that guy, probably still sulking over missing out on RG3[/quote]

There were a lot of butt hurt Cleveland fans after that. :spank:

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Learn something new everyday.
[url=http://www.jshfirm.com/EdwardGHochuli]Jones, Skelton, & Hochuli | Phoenix, Arizona Law Firm[/url]
[QUOTE]Mr. Hochuli is a 1976 graduate of the University of Arizona College of Law and is admitted to practice in Arizona state and federal courts and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. [B]In his free time, Mr. Hochuli moonlights as a Referee in the National Football League.[/B][/QUOTE]

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You didn't know this already?

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[quote=Dirtbag59;931426]Learn something new everyday.
[url=http://www.jshfirm.com/EdwardGHochuli]Jones, Skelton, & Hochuli | Phoenix, Arizona Law Firm[/url][/quote]

Wonder if he carries his flag with him to the court room. Throws it anytime there is a infraction in the court room.

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[quote=NC_Skins;931431]Wonder if he carries his flag with him to the court room. Throws it anytime there is a infraction in the court room.[/quote]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?! HAVE YOU SEEN ED'S GUNS?!?!?!

He goes straight Terry Tate on those b!%@#es.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzToNo7A-94]Terry Tate Office Linebacker - YouTube[/ame]