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[quote=Mattyk;1003439]I regret seeing some of them.[/quote]


Yeah the poor dude in the wheelchair was just horrible. I won't be searching for any other pics thats for sure.

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It's crazy to think it was supposed to be much worse. Sad day all around. And that one of the fatalities was an 8 year old child is heartbreaking

3 confirmed dead now. 141 injuries

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1003443]3 confirmed dead now. 141 injuries[/quote]

So my Hawaii news station was saying 2 dead 90 injured. The NY post was saying 12 dead 50 injured. You're saying 3 dead 141 injured. Then we hear that the 'suspect' was captured and is a Saudi. Then we hear he no one has been captured. What is up with reporting today?

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;1003444]So my Hawaii news station was saying 2 dead 90 injured. The NY post was saying 12 dead 50 injured. You're saying 3 dead 141 injured. Then we hear that the 'suspect' was captured and is a Saudi. Then we hear he no one has been captured. What is up with reporting today?[/QUOTE]

Yeah there are a bunch of reports out there, I saw that on our local OKC news so who knows.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1003444]So my Hawaii news station was saying 2 dead 90 injured. The NY post was saying 12 dead 50 injured. You're saying 3 dead 141 injured. Then we hear that the 'suspect' was captured and is a Saudi. Then we hear he no one has been captured. What is up with reporting today?[/quote]

There is a lot of chaos/hearsay/incorrect information after something like this happens (I remember during 9/11 hearing that there was an explosion at the State Department that was untrue). Honestly, I feel with the communication we have nowadays, incorrect information travels faster.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;1003444]So my Hawaii news station was saying 2 dead 90 injured. The NY post was saying 12 dead 50 injured. You're saying 3 dead 141 injured. Then we hear that the 'suspect' was captured and is a Saudi. Then we hear he no one has been captured. What is up with reporting today?[/QUOTE]

its just media being media. they report as they hear it, I am sure there is basic fact cbecking, but they all try to get information to the air first and with the most dramatic spin.

specific numbers aren't the story, each one represents a circle of changed lives. and the fact that tbis was successful is being noted across the world. I hope they identify the groups responsible quickly.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1003391]your point is true, but I also am always amazed that the US sees so little of this type of attack.[/quote]

I just watched ZD30 last night and finished thinking how bad ass our intelligence community is. I think it's why we've been fortunate to not have this happening on every corner like other paces in the world. But you can't stop them all...no matter how much man-power and money you put into it.

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[url=http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-carlos-arredondo-cowboy-hat-wearing-hero-boston-marathon-bombing-1194089]Meet Carlos Arredondo, The Cowboy Hat-Wearing Hero Of The Boston Marathon Bombing[/url]

I'm sure some have seen the horrific pictures of the guy being push in the wheel chair with what appears to be both legs missing and with the look of total shock on his face. The guy running next to him in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. It turns out that Carlos was pinching the artery of the guys leg shut to stop the bleeding. Not sure if the guy ended up making it but Carlos definitely gave him a chance. Thank God for people like that.

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[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1cf7mn/boston_marathon_explosions_live_update_thread_3/]Boston Marathon Explosions - Live Update Thread #3 : news[/url]

There is a lot of misinformation being put out there, but this Reddit thread does a great job of giving advice and keeping everything organized in one place.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1003440]Yeah the poor dude in the wheelchair was just horrible. I won't be searching for any other pics thats for sure.[/quote]

I can't get that image out of my head. Really hope that guy will be alright.

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It says alot about people when you have people running to help hearing another bomb going off but they still run in not knowing what may come next. Also this is a clip I read this morning.

By Tracy Connor and Elizabeth Chuck, NBC News
Those wounded in the Boston Marathon bomb attack included two brothers who went to cheer on a friend, and each lost a leg, their mother told the Boston Globe.

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[quote=firstdown;1003482]It says alot about people when you have people running to help hearing another bomb going off but they still run in not knowing what may come next. Also this is a clip I read this morning.[/quote]Agreed. There's a clip of police, soldiers, EMTs, race workers, and spectators tearing away the fences and guardrails trying to get to the injured just moments after the blast that makes me tear up every time I see it. These people just instantly decided to do whatever they could out of instinct and it's just amazing to me.

There is definitely a lot of evil out in the world but every time something like this happens it proves that there are even more heroes waiting to do the right thing.

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[URL="https://www.facebook.com/#!/pattonoswalt/posts/10151440800582655"]Patton Oswald[/URL]

[I]Boston. ****ing horrible.

I remember, when 9/11 went down, my reaction was, "Well, I've had it with humanity."

But I was wrong. I don't know what's going to be revealed to be behind all of this mayhem. One human insect or a poisonous mass of broken sociopaths.

But here's what I DO know. If it's one person or a HUNDRED people, that number is not even a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a percent of the population on this planet. You watch the videos of the carnage and there are people running TOWARDS the destruction to help out. (Thanks FAKE Gallery founder and owner Paul Kozlowski for pointing this out to me). This is a giant planet and we're lucky to live on it but there are prices and penalties incurred for the daily miracle of existence. One of them is, every once in awhile, the wiring of a tiny sliver of the species gets snarled and they're pointed towards darkness.

But the vast majority stands against that darkness and, like white blood cells attacking a virus, they dilute and weaken and eventually wash away the evil doers and, more importantly, the damage they wreak. This is beyond religion or creed or nation. We would not be here if humanity were inherently evil. We'd have eaten ourselves alive long ago.

So when you spot violence, or bigotry, or intolerance or fear or just garden-variety misogyny, hatred or ignorance, just look it in the eye and think, "The good outnumber you, and we always will."[/I]

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[url=http://espn.go.com/boston/story/_/id/9177661/no-unexploded-bombs-boston-marathon-massachusetts-governor-says]No unexploded bombs at Boston Marathon, Massachusetts Governor says - ESPN Boston[/url]


So that report that there were other bombs was bogus. Even reports that the police did a controlled detonation of said devices. Mass media is shitty to say the least. They should endure fines for this type of reporting.



[url=http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/eight-old-marathon-victim-mother-severely-injured-154456313.html]Eight-year-old marathon victim’s mother severely injured[/url]


Breaks my heart to see stuff like this. RIP

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With any major tragedy info flies around fast and furious. It's awfully hard to weed out all the inaccurate info in the midst of the initial chaos.

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[quote=Mattyk;1003501]With any major tragedy info flies around fast and furious. It's awfully hard to weed out all the inaccurate info in the midst of the initial chaos.[/quote]

Not to long ago a News Networks would verify something before they put it out to the public. With the race to be the first they have thrown integrity out the window. I don't blame the blogs but the major networks should use better judgement.

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[quote=firstdown;1003503]Not to long ago a News Networks would verify something before they put it out to the public. With the race to be the first they have thrown integrity out the window. I don't blame the blogs but the major networks should use better judgement.[/quote]

I was watching something the other night about when Reagan got shot. In the intial news reports there was all sorts of misinformation. Some initial reports said he wasn't hit and was ok.

I think most networks were pretty careful yesterday in stressing when reports weren't completely verified.

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[quote=mlmpetert;1003455][URL="http://www.ibtimes.com/meet-carlos-arredondo-cowboy-hat-wearing-hero-boston-marathon-bombing-1194089"]Meet Carlos Arredondo, The Cowboy Hat-Wearing Hero Of The Boston Marathon Bombing[/URL]

I'm sure some have seen the horrific pictures of the guy being push in the wheel chair with what appears to be both legs missing and with the look of total shock on his face. The guy running next to him in the cowboy hat is Carlos Arredondo. It turns out that Carlos was pinching the artery of the guys leg shut to stop the bleeding. Not sure if the guy ended up making it but Carlos definitely gave him a chance. Thank God for people like that.[/quote]

Some reports say he was actually holding the tourniquet tight on his leg. Either way I agree the guy deserves major props for helping out like he did.

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[quote=Mattyk;1003505]I was watching something the other night about when Reagan got shot. In the intial news reports there was all sorts of misinformation. Some initial reports said he wasn't hit and was ok.

I think most networks were pretty careful yesterday in stressing when reports weren't completely verified.[/quote]

Maybe its been the case but latly it seems they are throwing out any info they obtain by any source.

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[quote=Mattyk;1003501]With any major tragedy info flies around fast and furious. It's awfully hard to weed out all the inaccurate info in the midst of the initial chaos.[/quote]

Yesterday the NY Post had 12 people dead about an hour after the explosion.

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/ny-post-boston-bombings_n_3092814.html]NY Post Criticized Over Coverage Of Boston Bombings[/url]

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[quote=Chico23231;1003509]Yesterday the NY Post had 12 people dead about an hour after the explosion.

[URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/ny-post-boston-bombings_n_3092814.html"]NY Post Criticized Over Coverage Of Boston Bombings[/URL][/quote]

The Post is a rag. They definitely give news outlets a bad name with their reporting yesterday.

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[quote=Mattyk;1003505]I was watching something the other night about when Reagan got shot. In the intial news reports there was all sorts of misinformation. Some initial reports said he wasn't hit and was ok.

I think most networks were pretty careful yesterday in stressing when reports weren't completely verified.[/quote]

Yeah, typicially i feel like they say "we are hearing that...." or "weve gotten reports that......".

I think its pretty obvisous when news shows are reporting unconfirmed information. Theres a lot of confusing when something like this happens, as long as a news outlet isnt making things up or offering unfounded specualitive opinion, i think its the right approach.

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I hate to guess, but whats the feeling: Domestic or act of a foreign terrorist? At first, the simultaneous explosion and the reported possible cell phone use to detonate the bomb, possible saudi aprehended lead me to believe your foreign terrorist. But in the back of my mind, patriots day, got me thinking this is domestic.

[QUOTE=Chico23231;1003516]I hate to guess, but whats the feeling: Domestic or act of a foreign terrorist? At first, the simultaneous explosion and the reported possible cell phone use to detonate the bomb, possible saudi aprehended lead me to believe your foreign terrorist. But in the back of my mind, patriots day, got me thinking this is domestic.[/QUOTE]

My guess is domestic.

Domestic.

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I agree its domestic. It just smells that way.
Cant wait to see who the asshole is that did this.

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I think if it was foreign, they woulda tried something more elaborate with a HE blast wave that woulda taken out many more. It horrible to say, but foreign terrorist are probably not trying to take out store fronts, but the whole building(s).

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[quote=Mattyk;1003517]My guess is domestic.[/quote]


This. I no doubt think it's domestic related.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's some nutcase like all the other public mass murderers that wants his works and glory splattered all over the news. To me, if you have a beef with the government (Abortion clinics/Fed/Congress/President/FBI/CIA/IRS) and thought that violence was the only way to solve the issues, you'd target those areas you had the beef with, not innocent people. Look at the past domestic terrorism and you see they all clearly targeted the people they had issues with.

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Bombings always seem to have a domestic feel to them, though I know that's not always the case.

Reminds me of the ATL Olympic Park bombing back in the 90s.

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A trained terrorist would have set a second blast in the same spot as the first to nail all the first responders too... and they would have blasted the opening of the race with the higher density of people... the bomb locations were pretty bad for someone trying to kill a ton of people.

I'd be surprised if it wasn't domestic.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1003523]This. I no doubt think it's domestic related.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's some nutcase like all the other public mass murderers that wants his works and glory splattered all over the news. To me, if you have a beef with the government (Abortion clinics/Fed/Congress/President/FBI/CIA/IRS) and thought that violence was the only way to solve the issues, you'd target those areas you had the beef with, not innocent people. Look at the past domestic terrorism and you see they all clearly targeted the people they had issues with.[/quote]


I agree with some of this.

It feels domestic to me, BUT attacks on random innocent people as opposed to govt offices, corporate headquarters, [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]laborites[/FONT][/COLOR], or important persons makes it feel a lot different to me. It makes me feel like it was just one crazy guy or perhaps a very small group acting distinctly and independent to whatever group they will be one day tied with.

And because i think it was only a person or 2 i think it could very easily be for any reason. A lonewolf who is mentally ill, far left or far right, considers himself an islamist or sympathises with a anti-America group all seem just as likely.

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[quote=mlmpetert;1003529]I agree with some of this.

It feels domestic to me, BUT attacks on random innocent people as opposed to govt offices, corporate headquarters, [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]laborites[/FONT][/COLOR], or important persons makes it feel a lot different to me. It makes me feel like it was just one crazy guy or perhaps a very small group acting distinctly and independent to whatever group they will be one day tied with.

And because i think it was only a person or 2 i think it could very easily be for any reason. A lonewolf who is mentally ill, far left or far right, considers himself an islamist or sympathises with a anti-America group all seem just as likely.[/quote]


So exactly what part didn't you agree with? I said I thought this would probably be just like the other mass murderers that have happened. Politically motivated attacks generally focus on the group they have issues with.

Why does it have to be a Islamic or "anti-American" group? Eric Rudolph very much prided himself in being a "American" and bombed abortion clinics and the Atlanta Olympics. To him, he was doing "gods work" by stopping the murder of innocent babies.......by murdering innocent doctors/nurses. Timothy McVeigh wasn't Islamic or sympathize with islamic terrorist groups.

Just a note about the Atlanta Olympics bombing, Rudolph has made a statement that the bomb was intended for a specific target, and with dated timers and explosives he was working with, it created more damage than what he intended. He even went on to apologize to the people he hurt indirectly. That said, he's still ****ed in the head.

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[quote=That Guy;1003528]A trained terrorist would have set a second blast in the same spot as the first to nail all the first responders too... [B]and they would have blasted the opening of the race with the higher density of people[/B]... [B]the bomb locations were pretty bad for someone trying to kill a ton of people.[/B]

I'd be surprised if it wasn't domestic.[/quote]

I thought this too. It made me almost feel like maybe the attacker was trying to make a point more so than kill as many people as possible.

Although it may be much harder for a person to place bombs at that location as the Boston Marathon starts off in a small country town and the runners gather in a park waiting to run. You might have to have a bib on or a pass to get close to where the runners are waiting and there may not be any hiding spots or trash cans to place your bombs. If you are acting alone and trying to pass off as a runner it may be impossible to get one bomb sized devise into the area, let alone two, when wearing minimul clothing. Often there are checkins and security at the start of the race, while little to no security throughout a race or at spectator spots.

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it is a pretty crazy scene at the end of a marathon I can't imagine how crazy it was yesterday. Medical folks still had to help those runners that need assistance plus the bomb victims.

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Well,

I'll just keep with my current obsession, and say this was done by a NK sympathizer.

Now that everyone has shaken their heads and rolled their eyes:
things we know:
NK never ever acknowledges responsibility for their attacks.
K-Un wants to attack the US.
The bomb was a basic, ie not mid eastern quality, attempt.
Eastern seaboard attacks would never be missiles, because they couldn't reach them.

All that said,
It was probably a domestic job local to Boston political shenanigans.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1003541]Well,

I'll just keep with my current obsession, and say this was done by a NK sympathizer.

Now that everyone has shaken their heads and rolled their eyes:
things we know:
NK never ever acknowledges responsibility for their attacks.
K-Un wants to attack the US.
The bomb was a basic, ie [B]not mid eastern quality[/B], attempt.
Eastern seaboard attacks would never be missiles, because they couldn't reach them.

All that said,
It was probably a domestic job local to Boston political shenanigans.[/quote]

They are saying its probably a pressure cooker bomb and those have been used by the ME in the past.

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[quote=firstdown;1003542]They are saying its probably a pressure cooker bomb and those have been used by the ME in the past.[/quote]

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that NK's learned from ME terrorists, my point on quality we expect that ME terrorists bombs would be more refined. NK's attempts would likely be less refined, hence not the same quality, even if of the same style.

But, if it were NK I also think we would have seen a few different localities at once, which is why I ended saying it's probably domestic.

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It's when acts like this occur that I say to myself that Australia looks like a real nice place to settle and live. No terrorist attacks there.

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One of the three that died.

[IMG]http://col.stb00.s-msn.com/i/A9/3DE887333E8C692BA29EA498DA64D.jpg[/IMG]

Krystle Campbell, a 29-year-old Massachusetts woman described by her father as 'the most lovable girl,' was identified as the [URL="http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/16/17781262-second-boston-marathon-bombing-victim-identified-as-29-year-old-woman?lite"][COLOR=#800080]second Boston attack victim[/COLOR][/URL].