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Lotus 04-19-2013 09:18 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1004318]That is like not wanting to play super bowl game :doh:[/quote]

Just the kind of guy we want on our team.

SkinzWin 04-19-2013 09:36 PM

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[quote=Lotus;1004356]Just the kind of guy we want on our team.[/quote]

People said the same thing about Janoris Jenkins…

I don't know why we are even debating Mathieu, Shanny isn't going to go for a non-character guy like him anyhow.

CultBrennan59 04-19-2013 09:48 PM

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[quote=SkinzWin;1004362]People said the same thing about Janoris Jenkins…

I don't know why we are even debating Mathieu, Shanny isn't going to go for a non-character guy like him anyhow.[/quote]

Supposedly Raheem really likes him according HTTR247.

Just think in one week we ll know who are new DB will be by now

CultBrennan59 04-20-2013 02:30 PM

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There are Colt Brennan days until the NFL draft.

The Goat 04-22-2013 12:38 AM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1004307]Apparently according to him we don't have a #1 WR either.[/quote]

Until a WR on the roster breaks 1000 yards in a season not named Santana Moss (because Shanny has decided that's how it is), no, we do not have a #1. We have a nice group of guys though and far bigger needs than adding WR talent.

CultBrennan59 04-22-2013 12:39 AM

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[quote=The Goat;1004611]Until a WR on the roster breaks 1000 yards in a season not named Santana Moss (because Shanny has decided that's how it is), no, we do not have a #1. We have a nice group of guys though and far bigger needs than adding WR talent.[/quote]

I actually agree with you

los panda 04-22-2013 12:48 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004314][url=http://wp.me/p14QSB-8nSX]Tyrann Mathieu wanted to skip national championship game | ProFootballTalk[/url]

For all you tyrann mathieu lovers..[/quote]wow

CultBrennan59 04-22-2013 02:02 AM

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So I was watching Sanders Commings the DB from UGA who some are projecting at FS, and I don't get it. The guy looked Really good at CB. Plus he's tall, rangy and has gone against great SEC competition.

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He's projected to go in the 4th-6th round range. He reminds me of Richard Sherman when he was coming out of stanford, being a tall physical CB that would be step for step with WRs, but was overlooked because of other great players on his team/defense.

SEE OTHER THREAD FOR MY MOCK

KI Skins Fan 04-22-2013 07:37 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004628]
Also here is my final redskins mock draft

2. Terrance Williams WR Baylor
3. Duke Williams S Nevada
4. Montori Hughes DT Tennessee Martin
5. Brandon McGee CB Miami
5. Mychal Riveria TE Tennessee
6. Bradley McDougald FS Kansas
7. Sam Barrington LB South Florida[/quote]

I dunno about this one, Cult. I really liked an earlier mock draft you did but not this one. Trying to get into Mike Shanahan's head may have sent you down the path of no return. I feel like Regis Philbin should ask you, "Is that your final answer, Cult?".

I would have liked to have seen you pick a 3rd Down Back and/or a Right OT candidate at some point.

We could do better than Terrance Williams in Round 2. I mean, he's a good player but I don't think he's nearly the big play threat or Red Zone weapon that some other WR's who might be there would be. Players like Justin Hunter or Quinton Patton. I'd go for either of those two but otherwise I'd be looking for a FS, CB, or OT.

Also, we could probably get Stedman Bailey, Josh Boyce, or Kenny Stills in Round 3. I like all of them as much as I like Terrance Williams and I doubt that MS really cares whether or not RGIII gets one of his buddies on the team.

Duke Williams over Swearinger, Rambo, or Phillip Thomas in Round 3? I wouldn't like that very much. I think Duke could be picked in a later round and that he's more of a SS than a FS. I think we need a FS more.

I think Montori Hughes is a risk in Round 4. He's big and strong but what has he done to merit this selection? I'd also like to know why he was dismissed from UT.

McGee would be a very good pick in Round 5, IMO.

Rivera provides a downfield threat but he's another undersized TE. He's probably a good 5th Round pick, though.

McDougald in Round 6 might turn out to be a very good pick.

I think that teams might as well throw a dart to pick a player in Round 7. With that in mind, the Barrington pick would be as good as any, I suppose.

Monkeydad 04-22-2013 11:40 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004314][URL="http://wp.me/p14QSB-8nSX"]Tyrann Mathieu wanted to skip national championship game | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

For all you tyrann mathieu lovers..[/quote]

Good, now he might fall to us with this rumor from PFT. :D

CultBrennan59 04-22-2013 12:07 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1004633]I dunno about this one, Cult. I really liked an earlier mock draft you did but not this one. Trying to get into Mike Shanahan's head may have sent you down the path of no return. I feel like Regis Philbin should ask you, "Is that your final answer, Cult?".

I would have liked to have seen you pick a 3rd Down Back and/or a Right OT candidate at some point.

We could do better than Terrance Williams in Round 2. I mean, he's a good player but I don't think he's nearly the big play threat or Red Zone weapon that some other WR's who might be there would be. Players like Justin Hunter or Quinton Patton. I'd go for either of those two but otherwise I'd be looking for a FS, CB, or OT.

Also, we could probably get Stedman Bailey, Josh Boyce, or Kenny Stills in Round 3. I like all of them as much as I like Terrance Williams and I doubt that MS really cares whether or not RGIII gets one of his buddies on the team.

Duke Williams over Swearinger, Rambo, or Phillip Thomas in Round 3? I wouldn't like that very much. I think Duke could be picked in a later round and that he's more of a SS than a FS. I think we need a FS more.

I think Montori Hughes is a risk in Round 4. He's big and strong but what has he done to merit this selection? I'd also like to know why he was dismissed from UT.

McGee would be a very good pick in Round 5, IMO.

Rivera provides a downfield threat but he's another undersized TE. He's probably a good 5th Round pick, though.

McDougald in Round 6 might turn out to be a very good pick.

I think that teams might as well throw a dart to pick a player in Round 7. With that in mind, the Barrington pick would be as good as any, I suppose.[/quote]

Like I said, this isn't what I want to happen (the previous mock is what I want to happen) Its what I think Will/is more likely to happen. We're all familiar with the names when the Redskins draft and put those names in our mocks, the redskins usually will draft 1-2 of those names, the rest are guys we've never heard of or don't think are big enough names for us (ex; who last year included Alfred Morris in their mock? Hell I'm pretty sure a lot of us didn't even include a RB, because we were ''good with Hightower, Helu, and Royster'')

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-22-2013 12:11 PM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1004717]Good, now he might fall to us with this rumor from PFT. :D[/quote]

Works for me.

KI Skins Fan 04-22-2013 12:12 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004728]Like I said, this isn't what I want to happen (the previous mock is what I want to happen) Its what I think Will/is more likely to happen. We're all familiar with the names when the Redskins draft and put those names in our mocks, the redskins usually will draft 1-2 of those names, the rest are guys we've never heard of or don't think are big enough names for us (ex; who last year included Alfred Morris in their mock? Hell I'm pretty sure a lot of us didn't even include a RB, because we were ''good with Hightower, Helu, and Royster'')[/quote]

True. I don't recall ever hearing about Alfred Morris before the Skins drafted him.

Monkeydad 04-22-2013 12:23 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1004735]True. I don't recall ever hearing about Alfred Morris before the Skins drafted him.[/quote]

A lot of people probably never heard of Alfred Morris' SCHOOL before he was drafted!

theJBexperience 04-22-2013 09:04 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1003717]I wouldn't lose it but it would have to be someone like Tavon Austin or Justin Hunter[/quote]

Today at work, I asked a few Vols' fans (I know. I can't believe they still exist.) about Justin Hunter. They all said separately that he will frustrate you with his drops. He's the kind of guy who can make a spectacular one handed grab and then drop an easy pass right in the numbers. Of all the highly touted Tenn receivers in the draft, apparently the one that was kicked off the team: Da'Rick Rogers is the biggest stud but also the biggest head case.

mbedner3420 04-22-2013 09:29 PM

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The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of drafting a WR at #51. Having a literal juggernaut of an offense for the next ten years would be nice. I'm still hoping we come away with a solid CB and FS, though.

CultBrennan59 04-23-2013 11:13 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/23/team-needs-washington-redskins-3/]Team needs: Washington Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

KI Skins Fan 04-23-2013 11:25 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004883][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/23/team-needs-washington-redskins-3/]Team needs: Washington Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]

"Oh, for a team to be in love with a quarterback when the Redskins are on the clock in the second round. Here’s a team that could use another couple picks."


No truer words were ever spoken through false teeth.

Monkeydad 04-23-2013 12:32 PM

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[quote=GridIron26;1004318]That is like not wanting to play super bowl game :doh:[/quote]

That's also like reading the National Enquirer. :doh:

The Goat 04-23-2013 01:35 PM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1004883][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/23/team-needs-washington-redskins-3/"]Team needs: Washington Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/URL][/quote]

Oh well that's just effin awesome, the insiders see Turd (Tyler) Ferguson starting again at RT. But wait, we have Pashos now. And there's a guy named Compton. (sarcasm)

I feel bad for RG. He's got a coach/FO who wants to run his wheels off and refuses to address the piss-poor pass protection. I think we're lucky RG is a high-character kid, because some franchise players would (justifiably) start acting dodgy at this point.

CultBrennan59 04-23-2013 02:57 PM

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@Chronicle_Owls
#Rice WR @MrMcGuffie says he has been in contact with reps for the #Packers and #Redskins.

Sam McGuffie a RB/WR at Rice, who played at Michigan.

Chico23231 04-23-2013 03:05 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1004905]Oh well that's just effin awesome, the insiders see [B]Turd (Tyler) Ferguson [/B]starting again at RT. But wait, we have Pashos now. And there's a guy named Compton. (sarcasm)

I feel bad for RG. He's got a coach/FO who wants to run his wheels off and refuses to address the piss-poor pass protection. I think we're lucky RG is a high-character kid, because some franchise players would (justifiably) start acting dodgy at this point.[/quote]

This isnt working.

Evilgrin 04-23-2013 03:23 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1004905]Oh well that's just effin awesome, the insiders see Turd (Tyler) Ferguson starting again at RT. But wait, we have Pashos now. And there's a guy named Compton. (sarcasm)

I feel bad for RG. He's got a coach/FO who wants to run his wheels off and refuses to address the piss-poor pass protection. I think we're lucky RG is a high-character kid, because some franchise players would (justifiably) start acting dodgy at this point.[/quote]


Skip Bayless said the same thing this morning on first take!

skinsfaninok 04-23-2013 03:27 PM

Our line was actually pretty good last yr..

CRedskinsRule 04-23-2013 04:20 PM

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Is it in the realm of possibility, that a team would trade us next years first for our 2nd this year, maybe we throw in a late round this year? It would be nice to be back in the 1st round next year.

CRedskinsRule 04-23-2013 04:23 PM

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[quote=The Goat;1004905]Oh well that's just effin awesome, the insiders see Turd (Tyler) Ferguson starting again at RT. But wait, we have Pashos now. And there's a guy named Compton. (sarcasm)

I feel bad for RG. He's got a coach/FO who wants to run his wheels off and refuses to address the piss-poor pass protection. I think we're lucky RG is a high-character kid, because some franchise players would (justifiably) start acting dodgy at this point.[/quote]

You base a lot of your comments on the RT position not being even average, which it wasn't, but that isn't what led to the bulk of Griffin's hits (beat dead horse here). So why wouldn't we improve the areas that would actually keep Griffin from getting hits (ie playmakers on offense, or a defense that doesn't make Griffin feel the need to go all Superman on the other team's a**), and try to develop RT from within. Shanahan has been known to be pretty good at that sort of thing.

The Goat 04-23-2013 04:25 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1004923]This isnt working.[/quote]

I know man...we need a right tackle worth mentioning.

The Goat 04-23-2013 04:33 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1004935]You base a lot of your comments on the RT position not being even average, which it wasn't, but that isn't what led to the bulk of Griffin's hits (beat dead horse here). So why wouldn't we improve the areas that would actually keep Griffin from getting hits (ie playmakers on offense, or a defense that doesn't make Griffin feel the need to go all Superman on the other team's a**), and try to develop RT from within. Shanahan has been known to be pretty good at that sort of thing.[/quote]

I don't know about the rest. If there's one thing Shanny has succeeded at here it's the offensive weapons, though I'd like to see less of the one-man show that has RG keeping the ball. But anyways, the line was a piece of Swiss cheese pass-blocking. I can't even remember how many times I facepalmed after watching rushers blow by RT (I've decided he'll no longer be referred to by name, cuz it's not deserved). He was so unbelievably bad. Did someone post a stat recently that had him the worst RT in pro football?

The thing is, our interior can be pretty awful pass-blocking too. Hopefully it improves this year based on Kory L getting to full strength.

I can accept we're not going to give RG perfect protection, but we're so bad at this point it's really hard to not focus on the line.

Alvin Walton 04-23-2013 07:22 PM

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51st pick?
Look who was a 51st pick.....

[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/23/pick-no-51-nfl-draft-redskins-could-use-clinton-po/]HARRIS: With pick No. 51 in NFL draft, Redskins could use a Clinton Portis - Washington Times[/url]

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-23-2013 10:47 PM

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[url=http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=84920&draftyear=2013&genpos=WR]Terrance Williams | Baylor, WR : 2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile[/url]

6'2 4.4 speed

Seems like he could be a playmaker at 51 or by trading back and taking him later in the 2nd or early third

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-23-2013 11:25 PM

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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtOmsq2KXw]Ultimate Terrance Williams Highlights - YouTube[/url]

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-23-2013 11:31 PM

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Terrance Williams reminds me of Michael Crabtree with more speed.

CultBrennan59 04-23-2013 11:43 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1004997][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtOmsq2KXw]Ultimate Terrance Williams Highlights - YouTube[/url][/quote]

That catch he makes at the 1:40ish mark against Iowa state. Wow.

JoeRedskin 04-24-2013 12:00 AM

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Williams is tall, fast and has really good body control. BUT ... watch his routes. Not particularly crisp - rounded cuts, drifting out of lanes. If that can be coached up, I wouldn't mind having him at all.

artmonkforhallofamein07 04-24-2013 12:32 AM

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Not to mention the obvious connection, CP was begging for ST I know it was different management but ya never know if III may really want his old running mate.

CultBrennan59 04-24-2013 01:30 AM

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[url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-nfl-draft/news/20130423/2013-nfl-draft-wes-welker-watch/?sct=hp_t13_a7&eref=sihp]NFL Draft 2013 -- Possible undrafted free agents who could turn into impact players - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

I love this list that comes out every year.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1608317-2013-nfl-drafts-all-sleeper-team/page/01]2013 NFL Draft's All-Sleeper Team | Bleacher Report[/url]

Same with this list. Wouldn't mind getting Quanterus Smith, Brandon Williams, or Kenny Stills later in the draft.

Gtothearry 04-24-2013 01:41 AM

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1004997][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRtOmsq2KXw]Ultimate Terrance Williams Highlights - YouTube[/url][/QUOTE]

#10 for Baylor looks pretty damn good. I think the Skins should draft him.

Chico23231 04-24-2013 08:15 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/24/sources-slay-has-torn-meniscus/]Sources: Slay has torn meniscus | ProFootballTalk[/url]

Tough break for Slay who was somewhat on our radar.

budw38 04-24-2013 08:37 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1005028][URL="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/24/sources-slay-has-torn-meniscus/"]Sources: Slay has torn meniscus | ProFootballTalk[/URL]

Tough break for Slay who was somewhat on our radar.[/quote]
too bad , however , maybe he falls late 2nd or even mid 3rd ?

KI Skins Fan 04-24-2013 09:15 AM

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1005004][url=http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-nfl-draft/news/20130423/2013-nfl-draft-wes-welker-watch/?sct=hp_t13_a7&eref=sihp]NFL Draft 2013 -- Possible undrafted free agents who could turn into impact players - Don Banks - SI.com[/url]

I love this list that comes out every year.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1608317-2013-nfl-drafts-all-sleeper-team/page/01]2013 NFL Draft's All-Sleeper Team | Bleacher Report[/url]

Same with this list. Wouldn't mind getting Quanterus Smith, Brandon Williams, or Kenny Stills later in the draft.[/quote]

Bleacher Report strikes again! Most of these players are not sleepers. A couple of then will go failry early (Blindi Wreh-Wilson and Brandon Williams). I would take those two and also Kenny Stills, Travis Kelce, and Jordan Mills for my team. Heck, just throw in a FS and make that my fantasy draft.


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