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Not to provoke any more of a discussion than this warrants BUT selling seats doesn't translate into wins.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I dunno. I just tried to let it die.[/QUOTE]

I thought about letting it die. But here's the thing. If you're going to accuse someone here of something so severe as making a racist comment you better show definitive proof of it, or don't bother. And I think I can say, without a doubt, that neither Matty nor any other moderator is going to allow anyone to freely make racist comments or accuse someone of making racist comments.

I'm not trying to be a dick about this, but all I'm saying is let's keep our disagreements civil.

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exactly. how many years has vick been in the league, and how many times has he carried the falcons to the super bowl? please answer that. plus, he gets injured a lot, cuz of all the time he spends running. im not saying he's overrated, but what im trying to get across is that teams know how to plan for him. look at the playoff game vs. st. louis. then look at the playoff game vs. philly. did it look like he had a bad game against philly. no, it looked like philly planned for him and their plan worked.

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I know. I also look at when the person joined and realize that I guess they don't know better. There's NOTHING I hate more than getting into racial discussions.

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Vick is no doubt exciting. Very exciting, but he still has a lot of progression to go to become a QB. However, when you have a player with the ability to run like that it's hard to tell him to throw the ball away, when you know he can make something out of nothing. Vick has great games, then the next week not so good. When you have DVD you're doing okay.

I also didn't see anything racist. I'm sorry, wewhite, what percentage of Redskins players are white? It's a small minority, I base my criticism on the play I see -- not what color players are. I'm sure everyone on the board is the same way. Ray Lewis is over-rated and Michael Vick, while a very good player, is a bit overrated as a QB.

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wewhite, i think you are the racist. he was just stating his opinion, then you bring racism into it because he mentions two black players and no other players. okay, the percentage of players in the league is black, and most playmakers are black, but you are the only guy on this forum and probably anywhere who points out that the majority is black. look how many white playmakers are in the league. peyton manning, brian urlacher, tom brady, how many are there. you need to keep your racist comments to yourself, because you are the only person here who thinks that way.

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The IQ level just dropped about 10 points on this board with this thread.

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why? are you saying that my iq level dropped too. im just saying what i was thinking.

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how about we just go back to the original question on this thread

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Indeed...soooooooooooooooooooooooooo Taylor or Winslow? :)

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definitely taylor. kellen winslow can kiss my ass. we don't need a superstar at tight end,(not saying he is one), but chris cooley is like a perfect fit. he had a good season last year, elevated himself to starting h-back. there is better but cooley is a solid fit, and sean taylor could be the next ed reed. sean taylor is gonna be our starting free safety for years to come, while kw still has to prove himself.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Not to provoke any more of a discussion than this warrants BUT selling seats doesn't translate into wins.[/QUOTE]

nfl is a business... businesses have owners... owners like profits... winning helps profits, but so do exciting offseasons and overly athletic players... money is money.

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]I wanted Taylor because I felt he could have more of an immediate impact. I thought with Portis, Coles, Gardner, McCants, Morton, Jacobs, Thrash there's just no room on that offense for KW II, and with those players our offense would be so potent anyway...guess I was wrong about the offense being potent.[/QUOTE]

Me Too.........I thought our offense would be explosive, and our defense would suck........well live and learn.............

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OK....mooby, but at least I not trying to send hidden message about who is overatted or not, there's not lb that we have that can match Ray Lewis, game....and I love the Redskins...but I want have any taking cheap shots just because they have a crooked opinion.......whatever you want to call me.......be my guest...

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[QUOTE=wewhite3]wolfeskin.......would you be talking about us black folks, i mean how dare we glot over m. vick and ray lewis, and all the other colored folks out there playing sports....I so sorri suh....didn't mean to affend ya...........go to hell wolfeskin.....there no other qb in league, that brings money to there home stadium like Mike Vick, and name me how many lb that play for the redskins that been to more pro bowls, than Ray Lewis.....back of redneck




i hope like hell your just joking around. don't even try to start the black and white shit. this has nothing to do with race, i like vick, he and i come from the same area, i've watched him play a thousand times but people act like he is so great , when he really is not. i'd rather have mcnabb, manning, brady or culpepper over vick simply because their better qbs. as far as ray lewis being voted to probowls, who gives a f**k. trotter was picked this year over peirce and peirce had the , much, better season.

i wrote this as soon as i read your post so if you wrote a follow up post saying you were joking around than disregard this post but if you were being serious than you can lick my balls.

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too matty and all the other moderaters of the warpath, i apoligize for the thread turning into a racist thread but i did not ask for it. you all have read all my posts since i joined this sight and i have NEVER written anything even remotely close to a racist comment. i don't understand why Wewhite3 wrote what he did about me and my post but i had to respond to it. i couldn't let someone make an accusation like that about me and not defend myself.

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good lord it's like we have a little soap opera springing up on the Warpath. Hopefully civil minds will prevail in this now and we can get back to why we are on this forum.

monk81: I agree and think a lot of us had similar thoughts this past year cuz there seemed now way for Willaims to make the defense as good as it was and I was one of the people strong in the belief that he would severly help the defense. I just honestly never thought he'd help it this much as did the additions of Griffin and Springs. All last offseason most people here seemed to be screaming for more defensive help in the draft, which we did, and now it's starting to happen again yet our offense is still our main weakness carrying over from last year with solid arguments that it be considered even weaker now. Hopefully we can find a solid, mature player who can impact the offense as much as Taylor's selection last year impacted the defense.

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From now on any thread that gets into discussions of race will be promptly locked, so don't even bother going there, these discussions go nowhere fast. If I see the same people starting up these discussions you'll be booted.

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One thing that's important to remember is that, for the most part, I have no idea what color any of you are, nor you me. This may not be Dr. King's ideal color blind society, but the internet is as close as we can get right now.

By and large, though I'm sure my race has played a role in my life, it has little to do with my passion for this team. So until I change my handle to "WhiteBoy76", consider me a Redskins fan and a human being.