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Here's how it all got started.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV2-q8KPQv4"]NFL Films Presents: The Fun Bunch - YouTube[/ame]

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I favor the league worrying about crap that matters. Not this.

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[quote=firstdown;1018031]edit edit[/quote]


Now I'm curious...FD edited something out. Bet it was juicy.

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[quote=firstdown;1018032]Here's how it all got started.
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Nope , this is how it got started..........


[B]New York Giants and the "spike"[[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homer_Jones_(American_football)&action=edit&section=2&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro"][COLOR=#0066cc]edit source[/COLOR][/URL] | [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Homer_Jones_(American_football)&veaction=edit&section=2&editintro=Template:BLP_editintro"][COLOR=#0066cc]edit[/COLOR][/URL]][/B]

The Giants offered Jones a bus ticket to New York and payment for knee surgery. Known as "Rhino" to his teammates, he wore uniform number 45 in New York. Having seen players such as Giant teammate [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Gifford"][COLOR=#0066cc]Frank Gifford[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers"][COLOR=#0066cc]Green Bay Packers[/COLOR][/URL] star [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hornung"][COLOR=#0066cc]Paul Hornung[/COLOR][/URL] celebrate touchdowns by throwing the ball to fans in the stands, Jones decided to come up with his own post-touchdown maneuver. In a 1965 game, he scored a touchdown and threw the football down hard into the end zone. He called the move a "[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Touchdown_spike"][COLOR=#0066cc]spike[/COLOR][/URL]," and modern post-touchdown celebrations, including "touchdown dances," are said to have evolved from Jones' invention of spiking the ball.
In 1967, Jones had his best season, catches 49 passes for 1,209 yards, an average of 24.7 yards per catch, and 13 touchdowns, leading the NFL in receiving touchdowns. He was second in the league in combined rushing and receiving yards from scrimmage behind [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leroy_Kelly"][COLOR=#0066cc]Leroy Kelly[/COLOR][/URL] of the Browns. He made the NFL's [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro_Bowl"][COLOR=#0066cc]Pro Bowl[/COLOR][/URL] that season and the next.

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[quote=firstdown;1018032]Here's how it all got started.
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Double post , sorry.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1018042]Now I'm curious...FD edited something out. Bet it was juicy.[/quote]

No I just did the post over so the youtube clip played here and not just a link.

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The No Fun League takes itself way too seriously.

Fans just wanna have fun.

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[quote=baxter81;1017959]Don't really have that much of a problem with this. They are not flagging players for spinning the ball and home run swings alone. Its when they do it in front of their opponents, taunting them[/quote]

So Alfred's home run swing into the stands, is OK right?

To me its two things: First, is it taunting? Second, does it delay the game? If the answer to both questions is NO, then not a penalty. I mean a 3 second home run swing into the stands does not do either of those things, nor does the "Tebow" prayer on one knee.

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[quote=scowan;1018383]So Alfred's home run swing into the stands, is OK right?

To me its two things: First, is it taunting? Second, does it delay the game? If the answer to both questions is NO, then not a penalty. I mean a 3 second home run swing into the stands does not do either of those things, nor does the "Tebow" prayer on one knee.[/quote]

Players are only getting flagged if the celebration is directed at an opponent.

[url=http://realredskins.com/2013/08/09/need-to-know-alfred-can-swing-away/]Need to Know: Alfred can swing away | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1018356]The No Fun League takes itself way too seriously.

Fans just wanna have fun.[/quote]

Just remember that goodell is trying to change the game for the future of football as well. It's not necessarily that he doesn't want just adults celebrating, it's that he doesn't want young kids watching football and idolizing these guys who are celebrating (or celebrating over the top) after a big play and having young kids in little league doing these taunts or celebrations. You want to teach kids while their young and not when they're older, because they'll still be in the habit of doing it. This is all being down for the future of football more so than the present of football.

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The NFL is cutting down league celebrations to save the image of the game. If people get mad about football players celebrating, or if it slows down the game, people won't watch football, and then less money. I don't think the NFL cares about the young kinds growing up and if they celebrate, the NFL cares most about making money, and a big part of that is keeping a clean image and an image that you "care". Similar to "safety of the game", how the salary cap "promotes" competition, and anything else they say is so vital to the NFL. All about the money.

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The only sports I can think of where they celebrate a score is soccer and football. In soccer its understandable because they play the game for like 3 hours before anyone scores. When they finally score they have to wake up the fans so they celebrate. In football I'm not sure why they all have to celebrate. You don't see it in bassball, tennis, golf, basketball, etc..

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[quote=firstdown;1018438]The only sports I can think of where they celebrate a score is soccer and football. In soccer its understandable because they play the game for like 3 hours before anyone scores. When they finally score they have to wake up the fans so they celebrate. In football I'm not sure why they all have to celebrate. You don't see it in bassball, tennis, golf, basketball, etc..[/quote]

Well you must not watch much bassball firstdown cause I saw a guy knock an 8lb. Largemouth over the fence once and his teammates went nuts.

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[quote=scowan;1018383]So Alfred's home run swing into the stands, is OK right?

To me its two things: First, is it taunting? Second, does it delay the game? If the answer to both questions is NO, then not a penalty. I mean a 3 second home run swing into the stands does not do either of those things, nor does the "Tebow" prayer on one knee.[/quote]

Salsa dancing is another story.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1018025]Only for Victor Cruz.[/quote]


Obsess much ? :laughing2

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[quote=Monkeydad;1018536]Salsa dancing is another story.[/quote]

dancing was included in the list.

Never understood the knock on celebrating. Its one thing if a guy delays the game because he does a dance after a first down when his team is losing by thirty, but touchdowns, big sack, fumble recoveries - when the game is decided or in the balance- let em effin dance! I know ill be dancing in my living room if its the skins.

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[quote=punch it in;1018662]Never understood the knock on celebrating. Its one thing if a guy delays the game because he does a dance after a first down when his team is losing by thirty, but touchdowns, big sack, fumble recoveries - when the game is decided or in the balance- let em effin dance! I know ill be dancing in my living room if its the skins.[/quote]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1018567]dancing was included in the list.[/quote]

Dancing was included on the list of things you can't do? I know Victor Cruz scored in the 1st preseason game and did a mini salsa. I am not sure if he got a penalty or not however.

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[quote=scowan;1018821]Dancing was included on the list of things you can't do? I know Victor Cruz scored in the 1st preseason game and did a mini salsa. I am not sure if he got a penalty or not however.[/quote]

Its only a penalty if it is being down as a taunt towards another player. You can spike the ball, but if you go to a defensive player and spike it in front of him, thats a penalty. Same with Alfred, he can still do his baseball swing/salute to the crowd without any problems, but if he goes to a defensive player and does it in his face as a taunt, then he will get a penalty.

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[quote=Skinzman;1018827]Its only a penalty if it is being down as a taunt towards another player. You can spike the ball, but if you go to a defensive player and spike it in front of him, thats a penalty. Same with Alfred, he can still do his baseball swing/salute to the crowd without any problems, but if he goes to a defensive player and does it in his face as a taunt, then he will get a penalty.[/quote]

Ok great, so basically "do your thing" toward the crowd and do it quickly, then get out of there. Also do it alone and not with any other player involvment. I know guys come up and slap guys on the helmet and stuff like that, but that still doesn't constitute other people being involved. I know the Skins like to spin the ball as well. I guess doing it in the end zone after a score is OK, but after a first down(Pierre and Santana) is frowned upon.

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It's still ok to spin the ball as long as you're not taunting someone by doing it.

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I know some celebrations have been a little over the top (chad Johnson, etc) over the years and I understand the League taking steps to limit that kind of behavior but this last rule is too much. No baseball swings or saluting? Cmon. We are getting ridiculous.

I dont even have a problem with Cruz's disgusting little dance.

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Spinning the ball, military salutes, home run swings are all fine. Not sure how many times that needs to be said in this thread

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[quote=Mattyk;1018833]It's still ok to spin the ball as long as you're not taunting someone by doing it.[/quote]


On TDs. After every catch (Santana...) is a bit unnecessary.

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ugh with this thread

Homer Simpson. Nazis. Pie.

There - now you can lock it.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1017912]Yeah sometimes the NFL has no clue.[/quote]

that's it .But I guess they are just trying to make more money