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[quote=Chico23231;1076100]At this point yeah the secondary help would be great, but the front seven is where this defense has to win.[/quote]

Agreed... i don't have any faith in this front 7 to be any different than they have been. I think a healthy Griffin playing well and leading an offense that can drop 30+ a game is going to be the biggest boost to our defense...

I have no put no stock into the hype that this team has put up around this front 7. The guy we acquired that was supposed to be a boost and Bowen, another guy that was supposed to be a big boost but hasn't done much, are not even practicing.... Orakpo's break out year? We'll see... Haslett unhand-cuffed? I remain skeptical.

But hey, I've been wrong before ;)

[quote=skinsfan69;1076127]Yeah I agree on Amerson. He has the ability to be our Richard Sherman. Rambo? I don't think he makes the team.[/quote]
Yeah I gave up on Rambo last year in preseason. He's got talent but he's stupid. You can't fix stupid... though it appears the team is going to give it one more try.

Goo Fudge...

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I have three pet players who I'm rooting on this year.

[U]Richard Crawford[/U] - I think he's a very good player who can help the team in several ways. I'm just hoping that he has recovered enough to make the team and have a good year.

[U]Josh LeRibeus[/U] - I think that Josh has a lot of talent. In the past, he's hurt himself by not being in good shape. But now it seems to me that he has found the motivation to keep in shape. I'd like to see him compete for a starting job this season.

[U]Phillip Thomas[/U] - I really wanted him in the draft and we got him. He was an elite playmaker in college and I think he can become a very good NFL player. He might even become a starter some time this season.

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One guy i really want to watch is Chris Chester. How do you come off your best year as a pro and then have possibly your worse? I have a feeling he can return to form

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I'm interested to see how Santana does in camp. He's definitely a bubble player at this point in his career, and he'll have to impress Gruden. With Hank's return in doubt he's got a better shot, but we'll see. Moss usually bounces back with a very good camp every time his job is in jeopardy, but at age 35, I dunno.

I'm also interested to see hints of how Haz will call the defense without Shamahan looming over his shoulder, to see if he's truly set free. I do think this is Rak's "breakout" year (if it can be called that, I'm one of the folks who think he's already played at a high level, albeit with some consistency issues), so we should hear some reports of Rak dominating camp. Play calling from Haz will contribute to that a lot.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1076104]I disagree, Jenkins is 3rd string at best, and I doubt he makes the team. He is to slow for OLB (5.0 40), and to small for DE.[/quote]

He's had one year. Had it not been for his injury, he would have been drafted much higher.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11258982/washington-redskins-quarterback-robert-griffin-iii-feeling-better-season]Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III feeling better this season - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=Mattyk;1076051]3rd yr, new weapons, healthy knee, all signs pointing up for Griffin. Comeback player of the year in the bag.[/quote]

I'll take the wait and see approach. I need to see him run a pro offense before we start talking comeback player of the year. This is not the 2012 offense.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1076145]He's had one year. Had it not been for his injury, he would have been drafted much higher.[/quote]

Brandon Jenkins has a lot of pass-rushing talent, but if he doesn't contribute on special teams I don't think Jay will keep him around. The alternative, Rob Jackson, isn't the best pass rusher, but he's good in coverage and run defense. I think the Jenkins-Jackson battle(assuming we keep 4 OLBs) will be a tight one.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1076135]I have three pet players who I'm rooting on this year.

[U]Richard Crawford[/U] - I think he's a very good player who can help the team in several ways. I'm just hoping that he has recovered enough to make the team and have a good year.

[U]Josh LeRibeus[/U] - I think that Josh has a lot of talent. In the past, he's hurt himself by not being in good shape. But now it seems to me that he has found the motivation to keep in shape. I'd like to see him compete for a starting job this season.

[U]Phillip Thomas[/U] - I really wanted him in the draft and we got him. He was an elite playmaker in college and I think he can become a very good NFL player. He might even become a starter some time this season.[/quote]

I too am rooting for these players.

Assuming he's back to where he was health-wise, I think Richard Crawford makes the roster fairly easily. He was looking like a solid corner last year, plus he has the punt returning thing working for him. Just a guess at the CB group: Hall, Amerson, Porter, Crawford, Breeland, and Biggers. Minnifield goes back to the PS.

LeRibeus makes it too. I think he's got some talent as well, he's versatile and nasty, and the depth along the line isn't awe-inspiring, especially now with Hurt showing up out of shape.

As for Thomas, he's pretty much a roster lock. I think he'll earn quite a bit of playing time this season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1076165]I'll take the wait and see approach. I need to see him run a pro offense before we start talking comeback player of the year. This is not the 2012 offense.[/quote]

they're going to run the read option/pistol this year

i'm assuming the use of read option/pistol is what you assert as not a 'pro offense'?

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Keim's report
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9062/redskins-practice-report-rg-iii-o-shaky?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins practice report: Robert Griffin III, offense shaky - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=tshile;1076169]they're going to run the read option/pistol this year

i'm assuming the use of read option/pistol is what you assert as not a 'pro offense'?[/quote]

From what I've heard they have been running plays out of the pistol at camp but Jay Gruden seems to be pretty persistent on the fact that there won't be nearly as many designed runs and read-option for RG3

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1076171]Keim's report
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9062/redskins-practice-report-rg-iii-o-shaky?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins practice report: Robert Griffin III, offense shaky - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I'm assuming almost all of the QB's first few days of camp are rough. At this time of year the defense will be ahead of the offense. Non issue.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1076171]Keim's report
[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9062/redskins-practice-report-rg-iii-o-shaky?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed]Washington Redskins practice report: Robert Griffin III, offense shaky - ESPN[/url][/quote]

I say we make the switch and put in Cousins. Wait....are we are that part yet?

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Keim needs to start his daily report with:" "No injuries today." Someone want to take that up with him?

That's what I want out of training camp.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1076180]I say we make the switch and put in Cousins. Wait....are we are that part yet?[/quote]

Never too soon

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griffin looks absolutely jacked in his presser today.

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My player picked for come back of the year is Fred Davis. This is his season!

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[quote=spAtt;1076186]My player picked for come back of the year is Fred Davis. This is his season![/quote]

I think you can't be indefinitely suspended if you want to be eligible for comeback player of the year.

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[quote=mooby;1076187]I think you can't be indefinitely suspended if you want to be eligible for comeback player of the year.[/quote]GREATEST COMEBACK EVAR!!!!!111111oneoneoneonewhataworldwhataworld

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1075988]The offseason, with it's long and winding discussions, ends tomorrow for the Redskins. Set what ails you aside, and with the hope of a new day, a new year, a new coach, and a new optimism after last years debacle.

Talk about what you want to see from whom? What you need to see from a specific player. What would be the biggest disappointment in training camp.

[B]Yes, even do you have your yearly pet project chosen yet.
[/B]
Whatever it is, whoever's performance you want to praise or trash. Just remember it's all about the time on the field now. No off-season garbage in this thread.

Last year at this time I did a poll and was roundly criticized by GTripp for not including 0-8 wins. He was prescient, this year, no such poll, but I still would not put in 0-5 wins, and I think this team has a chance to put it all together, and win the division by the 14th game. It helps that I don't think the other teams will be good.

But that's looking ahead, right now it's time to see how this team comes together.

HTTR!!![/quote]

Ryan. Grant.

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Its that time of the year when its all day every day football 24/7. HTTR

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[quote=HailGreen28;1076189]GREATEST COMEBACK EVAR!!!!!111111oneoneoneonewhataworldwhataworld[/quote]

I mean if you are trying to crack a joke at least indicate it somewhat so I won't bother wasting my time to respond. Either way w/e.

Personally I'm looking forward to just seeing a contact sport again. Baseball's ok to pass the time but I miss football. I'm looking forward to seeing how our defense does this year, I'm still not sold on them yet.

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Dan Steinberg ‏@dcsportsbog 27m
Redskins announce that, unlike in past years, RGIII will be available every time the team has a media availability.

I have mixed thoughts on this. Primarily though, I just see it as multiple opportunities for poor word choices to get blown out of proportion.

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Shielding him was probably a bad idea to start with.

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[quote=Mattyk;1076219]Shielding him was probably a bad idea to start with.[/quote]

I agree. With more time at the podium, (a) RGIII will learn to deal with the media better, and (b) it won't be such a big deal, and there won't be the silly scrutiny over every syllable he utters.

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[quote=WestCoastSkinsFan;1076190]Ryan. Grant.[/quote]

Chris Thompson.

Sounds like he's been doing some good things so far. If he can eat right and hit the weights hard, perhaps he can avoid the injury bug and eventually carve out a nice role behind Morris. I love Seastrunk, but I think Thompson's experience will be the deciding factor in that battle.

As far as RG3, I agree that more media time will help. The media won't have to reach so much for stories and make mountains out of molehills. Of course, as long as hacks like Sally Jenkins have reporting jobs, he'll be subjected to more criticism than most players, but this should help somewhat.

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Any updates from today?

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9149/jay-gruden-anxious-to-use-darrel-young]Jay Gruden anxious to use Darrel Young - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1076231]Chris Thompson.

Sounds like he's been doing some good things so far. If he can eat right and hit the weights hard, perhaps he can avoid the injury bug and eventually carve out a nice role behind Morris. I love Seastrunk, [B]but I think Thompson's experience will be the deciding factor in that battle.[/B]

As far as RG3, I agree that more media time will help. The media won't have to reach so much for stories and make mountains out of molehills. Of course, as long as hacks like Sally Jenkins have reporting jobs, he'll be subjected to more criticism than most players, but this should help somewhat.[/quote]

His experience at what exactly???

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Love Barry Cofield.....
just watched him do a live int from camp. Said all the right things about the D for this year, improvements, etc. Seems to buy in and by observation, totally endorses Haz. Good stuff.
It's a GREAT time of year to be a Redskin fan.......
btw...2, Love the honesty and style which Jay speaks to the media. Very truly informative. I wish he could throw in an occasional "fights his guts out".
I have not heard any..."like how he handles himself"....

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1076263]His experience at what exactly???[/quote]

Thompson's been in the league for a whole season already and is entering his second training camp, plus you have to think he was already ahead of where Seastrunk is now when the former came into the league due to a more Redskins-similar scheme at FSU as compared to Baylor.

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[quote=Mattyk;1076262][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9149/jay-gruden-anxious-to-use-darrel-young]Jay Gruden anxious to use Darrel Young - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

We shouldnt worry about DY, sounds like he is recognized as a baller by staff. I wouldnt mind us developing a lil depth behind him. Fullback is such a physical position.

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[quote=SirLK26;1076265]Thompson's been in the league for a whole season already and is entering his second training camp, plus you have to think he was already ahead of where Seastrunk is now when the former came into the league due to a more Redskins-similar scheme at FSU as compared to Baylor.[/quote]

He also barely played in the regular season. His "experience" has nothing to do with anything this point. Also, nothing about him says he is ahead of Seastrunk was at this point last year because he was hurt for the majority of the off-season.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1076268]He also barely played in the regular season. His "experience" has nothing to do with anything this point. Also, nothing about him says he is ahead of Seastrunk was at this point last year because he was hurt for the majority of the off-season.[/quote]

I really don't care to argue this, but I [I]am[/I] bored, so...

I would argue that practicing with and just being around NFL players, being coached by NFL coaches, being in the Redskins weight room, and the game experience he got, even if it was only 8 games(if you count the preseason), does actually give him an experience advantage.

And to my second point, the blocking scheme and running game Thompson ran in at FSU is more similar to our offense's than Baylor's is, so I think my assumption was a safe one. I'm sure you've heard Seastrunk characterized as "raw"?


Tandler's training camp report: [url=http://realredskins.com/2014/07/26/redskins-training-camp-report-day-3-first-day-in-pads/]Redskins training camp report, Day 3: First day in pads | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1076270]I really don't care to argue this, but I [I]am[/I] bored, so...

I would argue that practicing with and just being around NFL players, being coached by NFL coaches, being in the Redskins weight room, and the game experience he got, even if it was only 8 games(if you count the preseason), does actually give him an experience advantage.

And to my second point, the blocking scheme and running game Thompson ran in at FSU is more similar to our offense's than Baylor's is, so I think my assumption was a safe one. I'm sure you've heard Seastrunk characterized as "raw"?


Tandler's training camp report: [url=http://realredskins.com/2014/07/26/redskins-training-camp-report-day-3-first-day-in-pads/]Redskins training camp report, Day 3: First day in pads | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url][/quote]

To be fair every rookie has a degree of "raw" in them. I dont care to argue it either but I am saying there really isn't much experience factor between Seastrunk and Thompson.

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Has anyone who put in lottery request for training camp heard yet if they got in?

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[quote=Chico23231;1076272]Has anyone who put in lottery request for training camp heard yet if they got in?[/quote]

I still haven't heard anything

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/07/26/redskins-training-camp-observations-from-day-3/]Redskins training camp: Observations from Day 3[/url]

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Got my lucky acceptance at 8:18PM. Taking my eight year old for the first time. Can't wait. Any tips??

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[quote=Chico23231;1076275][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2014/07/26/redskins-training-camp-observations-from-day-3/]Redskins training camp: Observations from Day 3[/url][/quote]


:(
[B]Left tackle Trent Williams rolled his ankle and missed a couple of plays while getting it taped, then came back to action.[/B]