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I mos definitely believe with our talent now on defensive we could get much more out of them under a different scheme and coaching.

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[quote=donofriose;1100332]No thank you. Coaching and playing the game are two completely different things.[/quote]

x2. totally agree

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[quote=donofriose;1100332]No thank you. [B]Coaching and playing the game are two completely different things.[/B][/quote]

Richie Pettibon coached and played the game.
Gregg Williams coached and played the game.
Ron Rivera coached and played the game.
Todd Bowles coached and played the game.

Quite a few successful coordinators in the league (or were in the league before retiring) have played the game at one time or another before getting into coaching. So I wouldn't shun the idea of London Fletcher being some type of coach for our team. That being said, I wouldn't just throw him in at defensive coordinator, but I don't see why it would be a terrible idea to look at him in terms of being a linebacker coach.

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[quote=skinsguy;1100338]Richie Pettibon coached and played the game.
Gregg Williams coached and played the game.
Ron Rivera coached and played the game.
Todd Bowles coached and played the game.

Quite a few successful coordinators in the league (or were in the league before retiring) have played the game at one time or another before getting into coaching. So I wouldn't shun the idea of London Fletcher being some type of coach for our team. That being said, I wouldn't just throw him in at defensive coordinator, but I don't see why it would be a terrible idea to look at him in terms of being a linebacker coach.[/quote]

More so then being a ex-player I would not want him as a first time coach. We need someone experienced on all levels of coaching to right this ship.

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Wade Phillips is who I want but I doubt we get him. Probably will be someone that nobody has ever heard of

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[quote=mredskins;1100339]More so then being a ex-player I would not want him as a first time coach. We need someone experienced on all levels of coaching to right this ship.[/quote]

I wouldn't want him as a DC. Absolutely not! Not right now anyway. However, I wouldn't necessarily scoff at the idea of bringing him in to assist with the linebackers, either as a position coach or an assistant to that position coach. Fletcher has a lot of knowledge that has come from years of playing his position at a very high level - I can't see how that would be a bad thing.

But in terms of defensive coordinator, absolutely not! He'd need time to work himself up the ranks.

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[quote=skinsguy;1100341]I wouldn't want him as a DC. Absolutely not! Not right now anyway. However, I wouldn't necessarily scoff at the idea of bringing him in to assist with the linebackers, either as a position coach or an assistant to that position coach. Fletcher has a lot of knowledge that has come from years of playing his position at a very high level - I can't see how that would be a bad thing.

But in terms of defensive coordinator, absolutely not! He'd need time to work himself up the ranks.[/quote]

I wouldn't mind a linebacker coach. But not a DC

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easy rex ryan

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Gregg Williams?

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Rex Ryan is a jackass.

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Greg is the DC of the Titans, the only way he comes back is add a HC and I doubt that happens after the way he left here.

Ken Norton Jr. has been with Pete Carroll since USC, he knows how to run that defense and has the respect/ experience as a player and a coach.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1100456]Greg is the DC of the Titans, the only way he comes back is add a HC and I doubt that happens after the way he left here.

Ken Norton Jr. has been with Pete Carroll since USC, he knows how to run that defense and has the respect/ experience as a player and a coach.[/quote]

Gregg is DC of Rams, with his bestie Fisher. I agree he'll only move on to be an HC.

Pretty sure I'd take him in a heartbeat over Jowly McGruden

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We could promise him the HC Position once Gruden leaves.

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[quote=mredskins;1100339]More so then being a ex-player I would not want him as a first time coach. We need someone experienced on all levels of coaching to right this ship.[/quote]

How can you talk about "righting the ship" when you're repping a Ravens Banner?

You've already bailed out. It's like shouting helpful tips from your life boat as you watch us sink.

I think you'll be more comfortable here: [url=http://forum.russellstreetreport.com]Baltimore Ravens Message Board & Fan Forum - Voted Baltimore's Best[/url]

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Hire Todd Bowles as HC and let him decide who he wants to pick as DC, that is for some reason Gruden gets whacked.

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[quote=sevier2;1100461]How can you talk about "righting the ship" when you're repping a Ravens Banner?

You've already bailed out. It's like shouting helpful tips from your life boat as you watch us sink.

I think you'll be more comfortable here: [url=http://forum.russellstreetreport.com]Baltimore Ravens Message Board & Fan Forum - Voted Baltimore's Best[/url][/quote]

Thank you. Been wondering about that too.

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Wade Phillips is the best most realistic candidate to take over a 3-4 defense... I would be very happy with him as our DC...

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[quote=Fiversons;1100465]Wade Phillips is the best most realistic candidate to take over a 3-4 defense... I would be very happy with him as our DC...[/quote]
Wades a good dude....

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1100460]We could promise him the HC Position once Gruden leaves.[/quote]

"Fool me once..."

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[B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Joe Gibbs HATES Buddy Ryan. If you don't believe me read this:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/book/pages/172.htm]WashingtonPost.com: The Redskins Book: Page 172[/url]

Some excerpts:

"Joe Gibbs was mad. Sputtering mad. Red-faced mad. Punch-the-wall mad. The subject was Philadelphia Eagles Coach Buddy Ryan, and the more Gibbs talked about him, the madder he got. The words came in angry bursts, as if Gibbs were ready to deck the questioner, as if he hoped that Ryan would feel the punch in Philadelphia."

"I live to play a game like this one," Gibbs said. "I live to play this guy."

"If you lose this game, Buddy Ryan is going to call you a bunch of fat asses like he did last time. If you don't mind being called a bunch of fat asses, that's your business."

"That very day, Ryan had joked about how uptight Gibbs probably was, while he, Ryan, was loose and confident, knowing that he had a Super Bowl contender. Indeed, to help prepare for the Redskins, Ryan had taken his Eagles to Tampa, the site of Super Bowl XXVI, for a week of practice. "We plan to be back here," he said with a smile."

"When the Redskins filed off their bus outside the Vet for that playoff game on January 4, 1991, they were stone-faced and determined. Gibbs had injected a Notre Dame-Miami hatred into them — and on the Redskins' first play from scrimmage, he was amazed by what he saw. "The line of scrimmage just exploded," Gibbs said later. "Our guys knocked Philadelphia about seven yards back.""

[B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Don't make me rent a bus.

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I REALLY wish that the fans here had lived through the Gibbs years......> <

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[quote=donofriose;1100332]No thank you. Coaching and playing the game are two completely different things.[/quote]

Knowledge is key....I can name a list of players who became coordinators. Dennis Thurman, Todd Bowles, Ritchie Petibon, Jack Pardee, Dan Reeves, Don Shula, Mike Ditka. London Fletcher would make a very good defensive coordinator....

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[quote=Hog1;1100503]I REALLY wish that the fans here had lived through the Gibbs years......> <[/quote]

Some of us did......

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1100499][B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Joe Gibbs HATES Buddy Ryan. If you don't believe me read this:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/book/pages/172.htm]WashingtonPost.com: The Redskins Book: Page 172[/url]

Some excerpts:

"Joe Gibbs was mad. Sputtering mad. Red-faced mad. Punch-the-wall mad. The subject was Philadelphia Eagles Coach Buddy Ryan, and the more Gibbs talked about him, the madder he got. The words came in angry bursts, as if Gibbs were ready to deck the questioner, as if he hoped that Ryan would feel the punch in Philadelphia."

"I live to play a game like this one," Gibbs said. "I live to play this guy."

"If you lose this game, Buddy Ryan is going to call you a bunch of fat asses like he did last time. If you don't mind being called a bunch of fat asses, that's your business."

"That very day, Ryan had joked about how uptight Gibbs probably was, while he, Ryan, was loose and confident, knowing that he had a Super Bowl contender. Indeed, to help prepare for the Redskins, Ryan had taken his Eagles to Tampa, the site of Super Bowl XXVI, for a week of practice. "We plan to be back here," he said with a smile."

"When the Redskins filed off their bus outside the Vet for that playoff game on January 4, 1991, they were stone-faced and determined. Gibbs had injected a Notre Dame-Miami hatred into them — and on the Redskins' first play from scrimmage, he was amazed by what he saw. "The line of scrimmage just exploded," Gibbs said later. "Our guys knocked Philadelphia about seven yards back.""

[B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Don't make me rent a bus.[/quote]

I'm with Joe, not a fan of the over rated Ryans.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1100538]I'm with Joe, not a fan of the over rated Ryans.[/quote]

Everyone's been calling for Rex but we don't need anymore drama here.

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What does Gibbs have to do with Rex Ryan? I think sometimes we get a lil bit too much nostaligic with the glory days. Rex is his own man. Of course it would be a longest of long shots of just settling for the DC job here, but he is a well established strong defensive minded coach.

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Jim Tomsula? He's been in San Fran a few years now, and it could be the right time for him to leave what with the Harbaugh situation playing out the way it is. He's also 100% as a HC if it counts for anything! :)

Ken Norton Jnr would be my other consideration.

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If Harbaugh goes to Michigan, then I think we should raid the 49ers for Vic Fangio.

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[quote=Avinash_Tyagi;1100460]We could promise him the HC Position once Gruden leaves.[/quote]

We were able to get him for Gibbs 2.0 by convincing him he would be the HC after Gibbs retired.
Unfortunately Snyder botched that and he went in another direction.

Snyder stabbed him in the back. no way he comes back.

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[quote=Starry Plough;1100542]Jim Tomsula? He's been in San Fran a few years now, and it could be the right time for him to leave what with the Harbaugh situation playing out the way it is. He's also 100% as a HC if it counts for anything! :)

Ken Norton Jnr would be my other consideration.[/quote]

Apparently Tomsula's got the early lead to take over as HC if/when Harbaugh leaves San Francisco

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[quote=Chico23231;1100541]What does Gibbs have to do with Rex Ryan? I think sometimes we get a lil bit too much nostaligic with the glory days. Rex is his own man. Of course it would be a longest of long shots of just settling for the DC job here, but he is a well established strong defensive minded coach.[/quote]

Nothing, Rex and Joe Gibbs have actually spent a lot of time together. And Gibbs had no problem hiring a key Buddy disciple in Gregg Williams

I'd take Rex as head coach over any of the previous head coaches we've had (sans Gibbs) 7 out of 7 days. But he won't waste his time here as a def coordinator

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1100499][B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Joe Gibbs HATES Buddy Ryan. If you don't believe me read this:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/book/pages/172.htm]WashingtonPost.com: The Redskins Book: Page 172[/url]

Some excerpts:

"Joe Gibbs was mad. Sputtering mad. Red-faced mad. Punch-the-wall mad. The subject was Philadelphia Eagles Coach Buddy Ryan, and the more Gibbs talked about him, the madder he got. The words came in angry bursts, as if Gibbs were ready to deck the questioner, as if he hoped that Ryan would feel the punch in Philadelphia."

"I live to play a game like this one," Gibbs said. "I live to play this guy."

"If you lose this game, Buddy Ryan is going to call you a bunch of fat asses like he did last time. If you don't mind being called a bunch of fat asses, that's your business."

"That very day, Ryan had joked about how uptight Gibbs probably was, while he, Ryan, was loose and confident, knowing that he had a Super Bowl contender. Indeed, to help prepare for the Redskins, Ryan had taken his Eagles to Tampa, the site of Super Bowl XXVI, for a week of practice. "We plan to be back here," he said with a smile."

"When the Redskins filed off their bus outside the Vet for that playoff game on January 4, 1991, they were stone-faced and determined. Gibbs had injected a Notre Dame-Miami hatred into them — and on the Redskins' first play from scrimmage, he was amazed by what he saw. "The line of scrimmage just exploded," Gibbs said later. "Our guys knocked Philadelphia about seven yards back.""

[B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Don't make me rent a bus.[/quote]have there been any complaints from any coaches about Rex Ryan ever telling his players to play dirty?

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[quote=CrazyCanuck;1100499][B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Joe Gibbs HATES Buddy Ryan. If you don't believe me read this:

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/sports/redskins/longterm/book/pages/172.htm]WashingtonPost.com: The Redskins Book: Page 172[/url]

Some excerpts:

"Joe Gibbs was mad. Sputtering mad. Red-faced mad. Punch-the-wall mad. The subject was Philadelphia Eagles Coach Buddy Ryan, and the more Gibbs talked about him, the madder he got. The words came in angry bursts, as if Gibbs were ready to deck the questioner, as if he hoped that Ryan would feel the punch in Philadelphia."

"I live to play a game like this one," Gibbs said. "I live to play this guy."

"If you lose this game, Buddy Ryan is going to call you a bunch of fat asses like he did last time. If you don't mind being called a bunch of fat asses, that's your business."

"That very day, Ryan had joked about how uptight Gibbs probably was, while he, Ryan, was loose and confident, knowing that he had a Super Bowl contender. Indeed, to help prepare for the Redskins, Ryan had taken his Eagles to Tampa, the site of Super Bowl XXVI, for a week of practice. "We plan to be back here," he said with a smile."

"When the Redskins filed off their bus outside the Vet for that playoff game on January 4, 1991, they were stone-faced and determined. Gibbs had injected a Notre Dame-Miami hatred into them — and on the Redskins' first play from scrimmage, he was amazed by what he saw. "The line of scrimmage just exploded," Gibbs said later. "Our guys knocked Philadelphia about seven yards back.""

[B]NO RYANS IN DC![/B]

Don't make me rent a bus.[/quote]disagree with your conclusion, but that is a fantastic link to keep reading on thank you.

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[quote=jamf;1100559]We were able to get him for Gibbs 2.0 by convincing him he would be the HC after Gibbs retired.
Unfortunately Snyder botched that and he went in another direction.

Snyder stabbed him in the back. no way he comes back.[/quote]

I remember double G made a comment after all that happened about you never know what can happen. But it'd have to be HC im sure.

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As much as I hated Buddy Ryan, he was great for the NFL during his time. I think a lot of people forget that he had some of the best defenses the NFL has ever seen when he was w/ Philadelphia. And we all know about the 85 Bears.

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Smoot any favorite names coming out Redskins Park?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1100576]As much as I hated Buddy Ryan, he was great for the NFL during his time. I think a lot of people forget that he had some of the best defenses the NFL has ever seen when he was w/ Philadelphia. And we all know about the 85 Bears.[/quote]

Not as good Petitbone except for 85, Gibbs owned his ass during playoff time or huge game.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1100577]Smoot any favorite names coming out Redskins Park?[/quote]

I haven't really asked.

Gregg Williams would come back. I mean I don't see it happening, but he's not not coming back because of any beef with Dan. That's just not true

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[quote=SmootSmack;1100588]Gregg Williams would come back. I mean I don't see it happening, but he's not not coming back because of any beef with Dan. That's just not true[/quote]

No chance GW is coming back after that coin toss incident.

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[quote=Hog1;1100503]I REALLY wish that the fans here had lived through the Gibbs years......> <[/quote]

We did, why do you think we've been so depressed for the last two decades (except that brief period when he came back) :cheeky: