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Unfortunately, the only thing we may win Sunday is the coin toss...

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1127602]Unfortunately, the only thing we may win Sunday is the coin toss...[/quote]

Nope, the Pats have that covered as well.



Jim McBride of The Boston Globe broke down the numbers and found the Patriots have won the pregame coin toss 19 of the last 25 times.

And that, according to CBSSports.com, is an “impossible clip”: “Assuming the coin toss is a 50/50 proposition, the probability of winning it at least 19 times in 25 tries is 0.0073. That’s less than three-quarters of 1 percent.” (Emphasis theirs.)

Read more at: [url=http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-patriots-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/]Numbers: Bill Belichick, Patriots Win Pregame Coin Flip At ‘Impossible’ Rate | New England Patriots | NESN.com[/url]

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[quote=over the mountain;1127603]Nope, the Pats have that covered as well.



Jim McBride of The Boston Globe broke down the numbers and found the Patriots have won the pregame coin toss 19 of the last 25 times.

And that, according to CBSSports.com, is an “impossible clip”: “Assuming the coin toss is a 50/50 proposition, the probability of winning it at least 19 times in 25 tries is 0.0073. That’s less than three-quarters of 1 percent.” (Emphasis theirs.)

Read more at: [url=http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-patriots-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/]Numbers: Bill Belichick, Patriots Win Pregame Coin Flip At ‘Impossible’ Rate | New England Patriots | NESN.com[/url][/quote]

Flipgate?

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[QUOTE=over the mountain;1127603]Nope, the Pats have that covered as well.



Jim McBride of The Boston Globe broke down the numbers and found the Patriots have won the pregame coin toss 19 of the last 25 times.

And that, according to CBSSports.com, is an “impossible clip”: “Assuming the coin toss is a 50/50 proposition, the probability of winning it at least 19 times in 25 tries is 0.0073. That’s less than three-quarters of 1 percent.” (Emphasis theirs.)

Read more at: [url=http://nesn.com/2015/11/numbers-bill-belichick-patriots-win-pregame-coin-flip-at-impossible-rate/]Numbers: Bill Belichick, Patriots Win Pregame Coin Flip At ‘Impossible’ Rate | New England Patriots | NESN.com[/url][/QUOTE]
These fucks win everything

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1127521]I ended up drafting Brady, Lewis and Edelman...

... I got Jordan Reed too so... lol I'm still on the Skins side.[/quote]

I followed your lead but I didnt take Reed.
In 2 lineups i have Brady,Lewis,Edelman and Gronk.In 1 other lineup I have those 4 plus Blount.I just think we are going to get hammered this week:smashfreak:
I figure if the skins do get hammered at least maybe I'll win some money out of it

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Pretty good analysis from the Patriots perspective:

[url=http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/11/04/the-skinny-skins-what-patriots-can-expect/pe50WPvTwqUKqWONOmQEYN/story.html?p1=Article_Recommended_ArticleText]Ben Volin | On Football: The skinny on the Skins: What the Patriots can expect - The Boston Globe[/url]

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1127599]If we didn't have bad luck, we'd have none at all. [emoji14][/QUOTE]
I thought Indy had bad Luck?

Sent from my S6 Edge

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1127610]I thought Indy had bad Luck?

Sent from my S6 Edge[/quote]

hehehe.

Here's my take on how the game will go down this Sunday.

This game is going to be similar to the Jets game. First half we will keep things close despite offense not doing much. Defense will somewhat stifle them and the Pats will take a 14-10 halftime lead. At halftime, [URL="https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/p/7/005/083/1c2/3bd89a0.jpg"]Jay Gruden[/URL]'s speech to the team will be "well it's a close game, let's keep following the plan and we'll get the win." [URL="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1859055317/red_waterboy_400x400.jpg"]Bill B[/URL]'s halftime speech to the Pats will consist of, "LISTEN UP YOU CANDY ASSES, IT'S THE FUCKING REDSKINS. IT'S THE EASIEST GAME WE'LL PLAY ALL YEAR. GET YOUR HEADS OUT OF YOUR ASSES AND LETS WIPE THE FLOOR IN THE SECOND HALF." Then they will proceed to come out and remind us how truly distant we are from the elite teams of the NFL. Sorry there's no happy ending in this one lol.

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I dont know why people think this will be close at halftime,we were down 24-7 to frickin TB!
My feeling is this will be over by halftime,35-7 or 35-14

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1127583]Breeland who is our best CB might not play on Sunday, and neither might Hall.[/quote]

It is time to cut bait with Hall this off season. Probably should have let him go this past off season.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1127613]It is time to cut bait with Hall this off season. Probably should have let him go this past off season.[/quote]

I pretty much thought Hall was as good as gone last season as well. I wish he'd just retire honestly, he's not good enough to be a #1 anymore and I dunno if they'd end up moving him to safety.

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I have this feeling it's going to be a ass stomping of epic proportions. Normally we suck balls coming off a bye week, and now we are going to be down our best pass rusher and potentially 2 of our best CBs. The thing that frightens me the most is.........."who the fuck at the ILB is going to guard Gronk?" I think Gronk goes off this game.


Hopefully I'm dead wrong about all of that. Our only hope is if we get the run game going and keep Brady off the field.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1127599]If we didn't have bad luck, we'd have none at all. :P[/quote]

[url]https://youtu.be/uEGVtbgYx2I[/url]

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Big key to this game is getting our run game going big time. We have to keep their offense off the field. If DJax comes back (and doesnt tweek his hammy in the first quarter) i think that our offense can surprise them. We have to run well to keep them honest though. Next off we need every bounce, break, and call to go our way. I think we will play loose - Gruden will be blunt with these guys as far as expectations. He wont blow smoke up their butts telling them thay they are just as good blah blah blah. Win or lose the division will be well within our reach and rite now that is the goal. Win the division. KC knows he talked smack to the media with his "you like that" - so i think he will be focused and determined to not fall flat on his face. Ill say that this will be a game going into the fourth quarter. Thats all. Let fate decide what happens than. Go Skins!

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1127539]Pats are on a mission, they have rolled everyone so I'm not expecting anything different this week. This will b a game where we can just say it didn't really even happen. I don't think they score 50 but I say around 35-20[/QUOTE]


They have beaten everyone. Not rolled. The opener against Pitt should have been a loss. They beat Buffalo, the Colts, and the Jets by a score. One score. If Buffalo and the Colts can hang we sure as hell can. They rolled Dallas without Romo - I believe Weeden was playing? Not impressed. Their last game against Miami was their most impressive. We gotta punchers chance fo sho.

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If we are going to have a swingers chance, Gruden can't coach the game like he normally does. He's going to have to take some chances, particularly on defense. Barry can't sit back in that stupid ass soft zone. He's going to have to try and knock Brady around and blitz. We're going to give up some plays but you have to put Brady on the ground. That is the only chance we have.

We can't run the ball. Total waste of time. Couldn't even run against TB. Run hurry up or the offense we did in the 2nd half of the TB game. It's what we do best right now. I'd worry more about trying to score over playing keep away. Have to throw more deep balls, maybe we get some PI's.

Just can't go into this type of game and coach like a pussy. Like they did against Atlanta or Miami. Empty the damn play book, their defense can be had.

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tired of the talking heads laughing about this game...I want this win. Skins been playing hard, competitive ball...lets punch these cheaters right in the f*cking face.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1127634]If we are going to have a swingers chance, Gruden can't coach the game like he normally does. He's going to have to take some chances, particularly on defense. Barry can't sit back in that stupid ass soft zone. [B][I][U]He's going to have to try and knock Brady around and blitz.[/U][/I][/B] We're going to give up some plays but you have to put Brady on the ground. That is the only chance we have.

We can't run the ball. Total waste of time. Couldn't even run against TB. Run hurry up or the offense we did in the 2nd half of the TB game. It's what we do best right now. I'd worry more about trying to score over playing keep away. Have to throw more deep balls, maybe we get some PI's.

Just can't go into this type of game and coach like a pussy. Like they did against Atlanta or Miami. Empty the damn play book, their defense can be had.[/quote]

Yeah good luck with that.Brady is probably the best qb ever against the blitz,not too mention he doesnt hold the ball long enough.

5. Brady has been getting the ball out of his hands quickly, and has generally made a living on short throws. Of Brady's 289 pass attempts, a total of 226 have been 10 yards or fewer, producing 1,427 yards and 17 touchdowns. The Patriots as a team have 1,188 yards after the catch, third-most in the NFL.

6. According to ESPN's game charting, no quarterback has been getting rid of the ball more quickly than Brady, with an average time of 2.13 seconds between the snap and the pass.

We need Greg Hardy to get any pressure on brady,and since we dont have him were focked

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We need to put up a lot of points, simple as that. Talking about shutting down Brady is a waste of time.

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we need to run the ball and control the clock...our front 4 need to get pressure.

D Jax being back could be huge

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I think any hope we have is to play lots of nickel w Hall and Culliver on the outside and Breeland and Jarrett on the inside. If we do not have all our corners, gonna be tough.

If thompson is back, id like to see that kinda fake bootleg toss back to thompson play we saw a few times against the falcons (i think it was that game). some new looks. maybe a reverse to crowder. some screens to desean. lots of rub plays.

Supposedly Belichick really respects desean and would role McCourty over top of Desean almost the entire game so maybe .. just maybe .. we see a lot of 15-20 yard passes to garcon and slot guys in the middle of the field. it seems like that inside slant was money last year but has rarely been called this year.

really interested to see what our coaches have dialed up after the bye and to see desean's impact on dictating D looks/schemes.

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[quote=Chico23231;1127639]we need to run the ball and control the clock...our front 4 need to get pressure.

D Jax being back could be huge[/quote]

This is a game where running the ball should be an after thought. Other than QB we have skill position players (WR/TE, even a decent pass blocking line) that can make plays. I would prefer to see a shoot out game, and let KC have his hand at it. I don't expect to win either way, so might as well make a go of it. If we try to run, it simply means we put up FG's to their TD's.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1127642]This is a game where running the ball should be an after thought. Other than QB we have skill position players (WR/TE, even a decent pass blocking line) that can make plays. I would prefer to see a shoot out game, and let KC have his hand at it. I don't expect to win either way, so might as well make a go of it. If we try to run, it simply means we put up FG's to their TD's.[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/sort/rushingYardsPerGame/position/defense]2015 NFL Team Rushing Stats - National Football League - ESPN[/url]

there is opportunity to run against the Pats, the key is look at the rushing attempts...its near bottom of the league because teams get behind and have to throw...not because it cant be done.

And Ive never heard running means we kick field goals.

Shoot out with Cousins? that doesnt sound like a game plan.

Id like us to go the smash-mouf...speaking of smash, is Jizzele coming to the game?

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Sure you can run against them, because they build up leads, and then start throwing when they know you have too. I would much rather come out aggressively, and get ahead of the curve and go back to the run then come out in the run, get behind, and have to throw.

As for the comment on Cousins/Shootout, he has led several quick hit drives effectively. I think the narrative about him needs to change, or at least give him an opportunity to try and change it.

Bottom line, the Patriots are a team who can take a rushing team's best shots, then put up 3TD's in the 20 minutes and win the game. Cousins has led several up tempo quick score drives, so start with those, and go from there.

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And in your stats, they are # 7 against the rush, I don't think that means you can rush easily, and if it does they are #12 (same source) against the pass so let's be aggressive and attack their weakness when they are expecting us to run, not once they know we have to pass. (And yes, an underlying assumption of mine is that our defense will not stop Brady more than 2 drives, maybe 3)

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getting it to 3rd and managable is key. at 3rd and 7 or more, i think we will be playing to the Pats strength.

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[quote=over the mountain;1127646]getting it to 3rd and managable is key. at 3rd and 7 or more, i think we will be playing to the Pats strength.[/quote]

I agree, and if Reed and Crowder are healthy, we ought to have good options in the quick hit passing on first and 2nd. Also Garcon in intermediate routes should have opportunities.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1127645]And in your stats, they are # 7 against the rush, I don't think that means you can rush easily, and if it does they are #12 (same source) against the pass so let's be aggressive and attack their weakness when they are expecting us to run, not once they know we have to pass. (And yes, an underlying assumption of mine is that our defense will not stop Brady more than 2 drives, maybe 3)[/quote]

In this situation, I look at more yard per carry, 4.2, than yards per game. 4.2 ypc is the highest of those ranked yard per game in the top 14, so to me its more middle of the pack.

I just dont see that "scary" defense. Chandler Jones, a couple linebackers are probably their most talented players on defense. Their secondary plays well as a unit, but each one is beatable with the right match up.


OTM
I dont know if its 3rd and long that plays into their hands....but more than opposing teams down 2 touchdowns in the second quarter and folks go one domensional which does...
abandoning the run is the dumbest thing we can do.

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How bout we just score more fucking points than them and move into first place in the division.

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[quote=Chico23231;1127648]In this situation, I look at more yard per carry, 4.2, than yards per game. 4.2 ypc is the highest of those ranked yard per game in the top 14, so to me its more middle of the pack.

I just dont see that "scary" defense. Chandler Jones, a couple linebackers are probably their most talented players on defense. Their secondary plays well as a unit, but each one is beatable with the right match up.


OTM
I dont know if its 3rd and long that plays into their hands....but more than opposing teams down 2 touchdowns in the second quarter and folks go one domensional which does...
[B]abandoning the run is the dumbest thing we can do[/B].[/quote]

Obviously we disagree, but I think saying abandoning is not exactly what I am pushing for. I think we should come out pass strong, and mix runs in, not run heavy and using passes at obvious points. We have several good passing weapons we ought to use and not be tied to a mindset of rushing good/passing bad. KC has shown he is capable of driving an offense down the field, and we ought to see if he is capable of it for a whole game.

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[quote=punch it in;1127649]How bout we just score more fucking points than them and move into first place in the division.[/quote]

that would be worthy of several drinks.

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Redskins corner Chris Culliver is not practicing today. He had been limited the past two days but looked good during one-on-one work. Culliver has been bothered by inflammation in his knee. Corners DeAngelo Hall and Bashaud Breeland are practicing.
-John Keim

culliver was going pretty hard in practice up until today. i assume they are giving him 2 days off to reduce swelling so he is a go sunday.

hello cortisone!

really excited we may have everyone except the IRs gallette, lauvau.

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There is usually one NFL game a week that the outcome makes no sense, I am hoping this is that game.

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[quote=punch it in;1127649]How bout we just score more fucking points than them and move into first place in the division.[/quote]

.......ok

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;1127601]Amen. We've had some close calls, but when is the last time we straight up upset a far superior opponent? Our time.

[IMG]http://sanmateo0809.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/now.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]


Looks like the Buccaneer jerseys.


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I have heard some people on the radio the last few days say that allegedly the skins are working / practicing some type of hand-signals / alternative play calling because they are concerned about mysterious headset malfunctions or other things that NE does when teams visit them....Locker rooms may be bugged. Peyton Manning said he believed that they were, and he is a pretty stand up guy...

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1127673]I have heard some people on the radio the last few days say that allegedly the skins are working / practicing some type of hand-signals / alternative play calling because they are concerned about mysterious headset malfunctions or other things that NE does when teams visit them....Locker rooms may be bugged. Peyton Manning said he believed that they were, and he is a pretty stand up guy...[/quote]

I actually agree with this. Better safe than sorry and nobody trusts the Pats anyway. Time to switch over to the baseball hand signals for this game.

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Oh yes.....the soon to be Handgate?

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Just don't get embarrassed, please.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1127673]I have heard some people on the radio the last few days say that allegedly the skins are working / practicing some type of hand-signals / alternative play calling because they are concerned about mysterious headset malfunctions or other things that NE does when teams visit them....Locker rooms may be bugged. Peyton Manning said he believed that they were, and he is a pretty stand up guy...[/quote]

Do we really think the Pats need to cheat to beat us? Sure...