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JPPT1974 01-08-2016 11:08 PM

Re: 2016 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 
Just hope that Kirk is not a one hit wonder. Like RGIII seemed to be.

Zerohero 01-09-2016 11:13 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1136272]Dream on! All Cousins needs to do is say "no" to any Skins contract offer and they'll be forced to franchise him at $19.5MM. I'm pretty sure that Kirk and his agent can do arithmetic.

Isn't time for all of us to realize that Kirk is in the driver's seat in contract negotiations? Simply put, we can't do without him. He is now the most valuable player on the team. Kirk and his agent know that and he's going to get paid.[/quote]

Last year he had no trade value, next year he will be one of the highest paid players. Crazy what a difference a year can make

KI Skins Fan 01-09-2016 05:50 PM

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[quote=Zerohero;1136463]Last year he had no trade value, next year he will be one of the highest paid players. Crazy what a difference a year can make[/quote]

Yes, it is.

Hey, I just noticed that you live in Phoenix! You may be able to go to our second playoff game.

Irrefutable 01-11-2016 01:43 PM

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If Hatcher retires does that change his cap number.... as opposed to being released

Schneed10 01-11-2016 08:24 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1137229]If Hatcher retires does that change his cap number.... as opposed to being released[/quote]

No, same thing from cap accounting standpoint

redskin37 01-13-2016 08:08 PM

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Release Hatcher and Hall to start. Out with the old and in with the young..

metalskins 01-14-2016 04:57 PM

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I think Hatcher retires.

From the earlier list, probably can cut ties with Darrel Young, Paulsen, and Riley. I think Jackson and Garcon stay with reworked contracts.

Kirk will get a fair contract, but don't expect any low ball offers. The 'skins realize how important he is to the team, and I think Cousins wants to be here.

kct1975 01-14-2016 11:07 PM

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[QUOTE=metalskins;1137602]I think Hatcher retires.

From the earlier list, probably can cut ties with Darrel Young, Paulsen, and Riley. I think Jackson and Garcon stay with reworked contracts.

Kirk will get a fair contract, but don't expect any low ball offers. The 'skins realize how important he is to the team, and I think Cousins wants to be here.[/QUOTE]
From what I have heard on the local radio stations, D Young wants to remain with the Redskins, and apparently is open to a reasonably low offer. I'm not sure if I believe that, but, that is what analysts on both 980 and 106.7 have said.

As for the other moves you mentioned, I completely agree.

Schneed10 01-15-2016 08:51 AM

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[quote=kct1975;1137621]From what I have heard on the local radio stations, D Young wants to remain with the Redskins, and apparently is open to a reasonably low offer. I'm not sure if I believe that, but, that is what analysts on both 980 and 106.7 have said.

As for the other moves you mentioned, I completely agree.[/quote]

As always, it's the market that will dictate D Young's value. Plenty of teams go without a FB. And he's aging. I'd expect a minimum salary deal, or close to it. He won't get more than $1.0M per season. I'm sure he'll take whatever the Skins offer.

Chico23231 01-15-2016 10:14 AM

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DY really didn't get a lot of snaps this year and from my understanding Callahan likes to utilize the single back look. Also Gruden prefers the 2 TE set (his time in Cincy). While I love DY, I don't really think his return is really crucial...he may not have a spot on the field.

Schneed10 01-15-2016 11:04 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1137651]DY really didn't get a lot of snaps this year and from my understanding Callahan likes to utilize the single back look. Also Gruden prefers the 2 TE set (his time in Cincy). While I love DY, I don't really think his return is really crucial...he may not have a spot on the field.[/quote]

Yeah. Lots of value as a special teamer. Maybe you pay him minimally and bring him to camp, but if you have good special teams production coming from other positions, then you say goodbye.

Irrefutable 01-15-2016 01:06 PM

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the Redskins should have plenty of cap space. I hope they go after 6 or so 2nd tier players.... S, CB, LB, TE, C

[url=http://realredskins.com/2016/01/15/redskins-should-enter-2016-with-plenty-of-salary-cap-room/]Redskins should enter 2016 with plenty of salary cap room | Rich Tandler's Real Redskins[/url]

KI Skins Fan 01-15-2016 02:49 PM

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I wonder what it would cost to sign RB Lamar Miller as a FA. I think we need more than one good back who can play every down. Miller averaged 4.5 YPC rushing and caught 47 passes in 2015. Also, he rarely fumbles.

The fact that he is a proven NFL player who is only 24 years old intrigues me.

Schneed10 01-15-2016 03:13 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1137668]I wonder what it would cost to sign RB Lamar Miller as a FA. I think we need more than one good back who can play every down. Miller averaged 4.5 YPC rushing and caught 47 passes in 2015. Also, he rarely fumbles.

The fact that he is a proven NFL player who is only 24 years old intrigues me.[/quote]

Good question. Pretty good player, but not sure there's a huge difference between him and Matt Jones.

YPC stats are so dependent upon blocking and schemes and all kinds of stuff. If Miller were here, would he really have done better than Jones or Morris? If Jones were in Miami, would he really have done much worse than Miller? Not easy to answer.

That's why my personal preference is to find the next Lamar Miller in the draft rather than pay for his production in Miami.

Chico23231 01-15-2016 03:25 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1137668]I wonder what it would cost to sign RB Lamar Miller as a FA. I think we need more than one good back who can play every down. Miller averaged 4.5 YPC rushing and caught 47 passes in 2015. Also, he rarely fumbles.

The fact that he is a proven NFL player who is only 24 years old intrigues me.[/quote]

I think when the dust settles from Free agency, Lamar Miller and Doug Martin will probably end up with the most expensive contracts at their RB position.

Adam Gase could move on from Miller. Gase could bring Forte in from Chicago or reach back and grab a back from Denver. CJ Anderson is a Restricted FA who excelled under Gase and has taken a step back now that he is gone. Wouldn't surprise me if Gase would send a pick to Denver for him. Maybe Gase brings in Hillman.

Miller has some talent and Im willing to bet several teams will be in contention. I wouldn't be against reaching out, but I bet the price will be more than McC is willing to pay.

Irrefutable 01-15-2016 03:26 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1137670]Good question. Pretty good player, but not sure there's a huge difference between him and Matt Jones.

YPC stats are so dependent upon blocking and schemes and all kinds of stuff. If Miller were here, would he really have done better than Jones or Morris? If Jones were in Miami, would he really have done much worse than Miller? Not easy to answer.

That's why my personal preference is to find the next Lamar Miller in the draft rather than pay for his production in Miami.[/quote]

I agree, if you take a close look at his stats you will find he averages about 50 yds rushing per game and 8 yds receiving. Miller made $1.5 million last year and would cost $$$ to sign. You can probably get the same production from a mid round pick and save millions.

That Guy 01-15-2016 08:57 PM

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DY plays all 4 special teams units and wants to be here. gruden's talks with hoffman indicated that hall is more important to him than goldson, so hall's probably back.

and yeah, you shouldn't waste money on an rb, especially with how bad our blocking was this year. 2nd round pick or later, or keep the guys we've got and see how it goes next year.

DYoungJelly 01-15-2016 09:32 PM

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Not sure who he talked to within the organization, but Hoffman was on the radio saying he felt confident DY would be back.

Not groundbreaking news, but I really like the guy and he gives it everything he has every time he sees the field.

Bangee7 01-15-2016 09:49 PM

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According to Rich Tandler........

dropping the following will save +/- $25-26 million in Cap space
Djax saves 6.75M
J Hatcher 4.23M
D Goldson 8.00M
P Riley 4.00M
A Roberts 3.00M

Goldson was a definite leader, BUT...he gave up some big plays, including the 1st Td against Green Bay. I know he was hurting late in the year, but he definitely looked a step slow to me.

Anyway, for my money, I'd part with those guys above.
Would definitely bring back DY.

OmahaRedskins 01-15-2016 09:59 PM

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I would keep DJax - He is a game changer. I am indifferent on Goldson and would cut Hatcher, Riley, and Roberts.

KI Skins Fan 01-16-2016 06:45 AM

Re: 2016 Redskins Salary Cap Status
 
[quote=That Guy;1137686]DY plays all 4 special teams units and wants to be here. gruden's talks with hoffman indicated that hall is more important to him than goldson, so hall's probably back.

and yeah, you shouldn't waste money on an rb, especially with how bad our blocking was this year. 2nd round pick or later, or keep the guys we've got and see how it goes next year.[/quote]

DY brings his lunch pail to work. He leads by example. He is what Joe Gibbs used to call "A Redskin". I want him back with us next season.

I have no problem with the RB coming in the draft. I would also have no problem with the Skins drafting Ezekial Elliott if he's there at #21. Other than Elliott, I'd probably pass on RB's until the middle rounds.

That Guy 01-16-2016 07:21 AM

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you can't cut djax. he's a big reason why j reed is open all day. we have a great passing game, we need to keep it (kirk, garcon, djax, reed, crowder) if at all possible.

I imagine the draft will focus on defense, since outside of a running back and a C/G, that's where we need some help. we're big in the market for a young nose tackle.

Schneed10 01-16-2016 09:40 AM

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[quote=Bangee7;1137691]According to Rich Tandler........

dropping the following will save +/- $25-26 million in Cap space
Djax saves 6.75M
J Hatcher 4.23M
D Goldson 8.00M
P Riley 4.00M
A Roberts 3.00M

Goldson was a definite leader, BUT...he gave up some big plays, including the 1st Td against Green Bay. I know he was hurting late in the year, but he definitely looked a step slow to me.

Anyway, for my money, I'd part with those guys above.
Would definitely bring back DY.[/quote]

Dropping Goldson would be a mistake without first exploring a pay reduction or restructure to make the cap hit more friendly. Still a solid player.

But I totally agree on the others. I for one am kind of tired of scraping by at MLB. I really want to see an athletic thumper in there. Partly because a stud MLB makes the team flat out better, and partly because I think a hard nosed tough as nails mentality at that spot is contagious and gives the rest of the team an edgy attitude and attacking mentality. I still want McC to go with his BPA, but it'd be fantastic if our first rounder ends up being MLB as BPA.

Stout DLine would be good too.

metalskins 02-02-2016 08:57 AM

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I know this is probably in the other forum, but honestly, is there anybody better than Goldson in free agency that wouldn't cost more than $8 million? I contend that while the dude missed on some plays, he also made some plays as well. He's not the best, but he's good enough until Scot M can draft that difference maker.

Schneed10 02-02-2016 11:24 AM

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Yeah I'm not sure we'll need Goldson's cap space. Cousins contract and cutting Griffin will offset each other, cap wise. And if Hatcher retires like it seems, and once we cut Andre Roberts, I don't think we'll need Goldson to take a paycut.

Keep in mind this assumes McC sticks with his typical plan of not stepping big into free agency.

Maybe they rework Goldson slightly, but I think they'll look to keep him.

Evilgrin 02-02-2016 01:40 PM

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Gonna be a fun offseason, draft is so deep this year also. Hopefully we get a bunch of picks.

Irrefutable 02-15-2016 01:02 PM

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reportedly the cap will go to $155 million, $12 million higher than last year

At last report the Redskins had $10 million in space, this was based on what projected cap limit ?

CRedskinsRule 02-15-2016 02:32 PM

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according overthecap.com.

Total Cap Number: $152,825,149 (Top 51: $147,740,662)
Offense: $78,287,690 Defense: $67,601,795 Special: $1,762,500

That includes $16M for RGIII

Schneed10 02-25-2016 10:38 PM

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Original post updated for small adjustments. The NFL salary cap was announced at 155.1M, We had tentatively assumed 153M. Also, the Redskins carried over 5.8M in cap space from 2015, it was previously estimated that they would carry over 7.0M.

The two changes net out to 0.9M more in cap space than the original post estimated.

Schneed10 03-01-2016 02:22 PM

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Original post was updated to reflect Kirk Cousins receiving the non exclusive franchise tag, which carries a cap hit of $19.9M.

This move adds Cousins back to the roster, kicking a player out of the top 51.

I have the Redskins currently over the cap by ($1.6M). They'll need to make moves to free necessary cap space, the most obvious being releasing or trading Griffin. The team must be under the cap by 4pm eastern on March 9, per league rules.

Schneed10 03-01-2016 02:30 PM

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Original post was updated again. The top 51 carried a higher cap total than was previously estimated here, due to incentive adjustments. Numbers were revised, Redskins are currently ($6.1M) over the cap, and will be $10M under it once Griffin is released or traded.

Schneed10 03-07-2016 12:24 PM

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The original post was edited to reflect the release of Robert Griffin III and Jason Hatcher.

Redskins cap room now stands at $13.8M. As more transactions are reported I will continue to update.

Schneed10 03-07-2016 02:41 PM

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Dashon Goldson and Jeron Johnson cut. Added to original post.

Cap room now at $21.8M.

mredskins 03-07-2016 02:48 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1140201]Dashon Goldson and Jeron Johnson cut. Added to original post.

Cap room now at $21.8M.[/quote]
good work! Thank you!

Schneed10 03-07-2016 03:11 PM

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Hoping to hear news on a Junior Galette resigning sometime before Wednesday at 4pm. I'm thinking a chunk of this new cap space is earmarked for him. He might cost them more than they wanted to pay.

That Guy 03-07-2016 06:12 PM

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if he's asking too much, they can see what other teams are offering and match it or pass. it would be nice to get him on the field though.

KI Skins Fan 03-07-2016 06:58 PM

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[quote=That Guy;1140219]if he's asking too much, they can see what other teams are offering and match it or pass. it would be nice to get him on the field though.[/quote]

No! If he's ready to go, get him signed without giving other teams a shot at him. Good edge rushers are like gold in the NFL. He's not going to break the bank coming off of an achilles injury.

That Guy 03-08-2016 05:48 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140222]No! If he's ready to go, get him signed without giving other teams a shot at him. Good edge rushers are like gold in the NFL. He's not going to break the bank coming off of an achilles injury.[/quote]

well, teams can already contact him now and we have right of refusal to match any offer he accepts, so it's too late for that.

KI Skins Fan 03-08-2016 07:24 AM

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[quote=That Guy;1140254]well, teams can already contact him now and we have right of refusal to match any offer he accepts, so it's too late for that.[/quote]

Oh. Sorry about that.

Schneed10 03-08-2016 10:09 AM

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Original post updated again to reflect recent tenders to the following players:

Tendered Will Compton $0.6M
Tendered Tress Way $0.6M
Tendered Chris Thompson $0.7M
Tendered Duke Ihenacho $1.7M
Combined Cap Space Used: $3.6M

These moves booted 4 players from the top 51, creating 2.0M in cap space.

So the net impact of the tenders on the cap: used up $1.6M in cap space. Redskins cap room now estimated at $20.2M.


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