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[quote=Schneed10;1140985]Could you share the link please??[/quote]

Well video on bleacher report so take it with a grain of salt

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2625455-insider-buzz-redskins-targeting-ohio-state-wr-michael-thomas-in-draft]Insider Buzz: Redskins Targeting Ohio State WR Michael Thomas in Draft | Bleacher Report[/url]

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I think too much of Scott that anyone in the front office/scouting department would be dumb enough to risk being fired for leaking information.

Any "inside" info leaked to reporters via an unnamed/unknown team source during the lead up to the draft is IMHO bullshit leaked purposely

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Yeah obvious smokescreen

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well, they said he's at the top of our WR board, he could still technically be 20+ slots down the combined list. our FO probably does like him, but that doesn't really mean anything in and of itself.

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Take Ryan Kelly at #21

"Kelly was a three-year starter at center for the Crimson Tide. This is an easy player to evaluate. He has ideal size, toughness and awareness. In the run game, he has quick feet to fit up, turn and wall off defenders. He can create movement against opponents over his nose. He takes excellent angles to the second level and he has the agility to adjust in space. In pass pro, he shoots his hands in tight and steers defenders. He can bend and anchor easily and he's assignment aware. Overall, this player has Pro Bowl potential and should be ready to start Day 1."

Then, trade up (Yes, I wrote [U]up[/U]) in the 2nd Round and take a D-Lineman with a 1st Round grade who slipped into Round 2. There are so many exceptional D-Linemen this year that they can't all be drafted in the 1st Round.

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Do you have Kelly as your 21st(ish) rated prospect?

I don't have him anywhere near top 20. And the reason why I don't have him rated that high is precisely for the same reason that you want to trade up: a deep draft at the D-line position.

I'm philosophically opposed to trading up in the early draft......UNLESS we first traded back and used those picks to move up.

Now if Conklin or Decker fall to 21? I'm in on that....move them to OG then Long to Center.
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I don't rank players at all. I just trust certain people who do it for a living. Also, I know which players I've seen who I like for our team.

I believe that there is no such thing as true BPA pick in any draft beyond the first five or ten picks. I heard Brian Billick say that, in the many draft rooms he's been in, it's uncanny how the BPA always matched up with a team need. Human nature and common sense come into play. So, I don't think Kelly needs to be ranked in the Top 25 by the Redskins to be picked in the 21st spot by them.

We badly need a starting center. Also, I believe it would be nearly a sin to miss out on a good interior defensive lineman in this draft. I'm hoping we get both and I don't care how it's done. I'd be fine if we took a D-Lineman at #21 and C Nick Martin of ND in the second round.

Kelly and Martin are the only centers I like in this draft. There's no reason to draft a backup C later, IMO. But what do I know compared to SM?

Draft Philosophy and Ryan Kelly @ 21
 

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]I don't rank players at all. I just trust certain people who do it for a living. Also, I know which players I've seen who I like for our team.[/quote]I was only asking where you rank Kelly because this thread is all about where players are ranked on the "Big Board".

Tangent: I think during the run up to the draft is imho the time when you get the least accurate information about draft prospects. NFL team's are notoriously protective of their draft thoughts. They often times engage in pumping or sinking draft opinion based on information they purposefully feed to their draft media counterparts. The draft media relies on this (often purposefully false) information in part because there are simply too many prospects to accurately evaluate/rank. Case in point was Miles Killebrew; who was being talked up as a big hitting safety but the player the draftniks described wasn't the player that appeared on the available game tape. Trust. But verify.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]I believe that there is no such thing as true BPA pick in any draft beyond the first five or ten picks.[/quote]Completely disagree.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]...I heard Brian Billick say that, in the many draft rooms he's been in, it's uncanny how the BPA always matched up with a team need.[/quote]IIRC Billick said that during the combine? I suspect we have different understanding of what he meant.

I think he was referring to 2 circumstances: (1) no team every admits/thinks they "reached" for a player; they always claim the player they selected was "the BPA on their board" (2) draft boards can become artificially manipulated by internal team "needs" or GMs or HCs who have pull in draft boardrooms

[quote]So, I don't think Kelly needs to be ranked in the Top 25 by the Redskins to be picked in the 21st spot by them.[/quote]I completely disagree.
For any pick to make sense to me they need to be ranked in the range where they are selected.(Unless of course its a situation where a player slated to go higher falls to a lower pick) What this sounds like to me, is justification of a reach.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]We badly need a starting center. Also, I believe it would be nearly a sin to miss out on a good interior defensive lineman in this draft. [/quote]I'm confused. You're advocating passing over, by your own account "good interior DL", to select Kelly. Then advocating trading up to get a DL because it would be "sin" to miss out on this year's DL.

I also disagree with our level of "need" at the Center position, and the general idea of drafting for need. In my view free agency is about need not the draft.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]I'm hoping we get both and I don't care how it's done. I'd be fine if we took a D-Lineman at #21 and C Nick Martin of ND in the second round.[/quote]I could certainly get on board with that. But, net-net I'm don't have Center as a top area to address for this team. And I believe there is a good chance a solution is found internally between Josh, Arie and Spencer.

[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]There's no reason to draft a backup C later, IMO.[/quote]Imo there are a bunch of reason to draft an OL that could be Center later in the draft. Depth, development, versatility or it could simply be that OL is the BPA.

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[quote=30gut;1140989]I think too much of Scott that anyone in the front office/scouting department would be dumb enough to risk being fired for leaking information.

Any "inside" info leaked to reporters via an unnamed/unknown team source during the lead up to the draft is IMHO bullshit leaked purposely

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Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.

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[quote=Chico23231;1141001]Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.[/quote]

Eli Apple

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1141001]Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.[/QUOTE]
I think Scott will take the best player available on their board at the time.

There are so many factors that will unfold in picks 1-20 that impact pick 21.

If one of these players slips:
Elliott, Dodd, Lawson, Rankins, Conklin, Decker

More likely to be there: J Reed, Emmanuel Ogbah, Reggie Ragland, Mackenzie Alexander, Ashawn Rob, Josh Doctsun, Andrew Billings

Right now I would go w/ Ogbah, Mackenzie or Doctsun

Hand to fire: Ogbah

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[quote=30gut;1141005]I think Scott will take the best player available on their board at the time.

There are so many factors that will unfold in picks 1-20 that impact pick 21.

If one of these players slips:
Elliott, Dodd, Lawson, Rankins, Conklin, Decker

More likely to be there: J Reed, Emmanuel Ogbah, Reggie Ragland, Mackenzie Alexander, Ashawn Rob, Josh Doctsun, Andrew Billings

Right now I would go w/ Ogbah, Mackenzie or Doctsun

Hand to fire: Ogbah

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Wish I could share your enthusiasm about Ogbah. I just don't know about that dude. Billings to me is a wild card. I like him too, think he is extremely boom or bust.

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I think Ogbah is the player draftniks want Spence to be.

Ogbah has better production and all his production came against equal comp where Spence spent his final season against inferior.
Ogbah is bigger, faster, stronger and is clean off the field.

I'm curious what makes you think is more boom/bust then any other prospect?


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I just can't imagine Elliott slipping to #21. My fear is that the Cowboys will take him at #4. He would be a beast behind that outstanding OL of theirs.

I don't see Rankins slipping all the way to #21 either.

If one of them were to fall to us, we'd probably set the record for least time on the clock.

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[quote=Chico23231;1141006]Wish I could share your enthusiasm about Ogbah. I just don't know about that dude.[/quote]

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Height--6' 4"


Weight--273


40 Yard Dash--4.63


Vertical Jump--35½"


Broad Jump--121"


3 Cone Drill--7.26

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[quote=Chico23231;1141001]Who does McC pick at 21?

Everbody opinion is welcomed.

Im thinking it one of these 3: Chris Jones, Rankins or my favorite: Reed.[/quote]

Andrew Billings or A'Shawn Robinson

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A'Shawn Robinson seems like a safe pick, where as Billings has alot of boom or bust potential. I wish I knew what teams really think.

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Another plus for Robinson is that he doesn't turn 21 until next off season. Can he play NT though? Billings is a true NT, although Robinson reminds me of a stronger Jay Ratliff and he did well at NT

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1140996]...

[B]I believe that there is no such thing as true BPA pick in any draft beyond the first five or ten picks. I heard Brian Billick say that, in the many draft rooms he's been in, it's uncanny how the BPA always matched up with a team need. Human nature and common sense come into play.[/B]

....

[B]We badly need a starting center.[/B] Also, I believe it would be nearly a sin to miss out on a good interior defensive lineman in this draft.


....[/quote]


I couldn't agree more with these thoughts.

After Free Agency, NT and Center are the biggest holes.

I don't really care about the order...just hoping we could get starting caliber for each area.

The good news, from what the "experts" say, there does appear to be several quality selections at each spot.

For my guess...

we trade back a few spots & still pick up Jarran Reed.
Then we draft a starting center in the 2nd.

After that, it's all gravy for me.

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[quote=Bangee7;1141050]I couldn't agree more with these thoughts.

After Free Agency, NT and Center are the biggest holes.

I don't really care about the order...just hoping we could get starting caliber for each area.

The good news, from what the "experts" say, there does appear to be several quality selections at each spot.

For my guess...

we trade back a few spots & still pick up Jarran Reed.
Then we draft a starting center in the 2nd.

After that, it's all gravy for me.[/quote]

very good idea, however there are only 2 good centers (Kelly and Martin). They may be gone at pick #53

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[quote=Irrefutable;1141051]very good idea, however there are only 2 good centers (Kelly and Martin). They may be gone at pick #53[/quote]

There's also Jack Allen (Mich St) that some scouts think could be starter in the NFL as a rookie.

But, let's agree that there are only 2 real considerations at C, that still doesn't mean we can't package up something to move up in round two.

We don't have to stay at #53.

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Can't say that I agree much at all w/ the draft philosophies posted recently.

I think entering a deep draft with the idea to move up is the wrong plan from the jump. My plan for a deep plan would be to increase NOT decrease the number of selections.

Also I'm all for targeting players but like Scott said that's for the later rounds. And the target should be players and not positions. Entering a draft with the idea to acquire position X is imho the wrong plan and leads down the slippery slope of ignoring BPA and drafting for "need"/"want".

If a center is sitting there and is the BPA then I'm all for it; but if not I hope we don't force or chase it.

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^ Pure BPA is bullshit. I know you can't be convinced of that and I'm not interested in getting into some tangled debate with you about why it can't work. Nevertheless, even a cursory look at how teams draft should be enough to show you that pure BPA isn't practiced by anyone.

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Lol, umm okay.

Anyhow I take a special solace in knowing that you think "pure BPA" is bullshit. Let's me know I'm on the right track.

Cheers!

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[url]http://m.redskins.com/s/30856/376?itemUri=1963368202/211110324410141310613120109512[/url]

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again, your version of bpa indirectly accounts for team needs, so it's not actually pure BPA. you can dance around with semantics all you like, but i'd rather not waste another 2 pages on it.

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We're not picking a center at #21. Nothing I've read suggests there is any center good enough to be picked that high.

I like Billings from Baylor, and there are a few corners I think we could take at #21. There is literally no way to guess who we'll actually end up with. Depends a lot on who the first 20 picks are + the teams own player rankings. So the draft should be interesting.

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[quote=That Guy;1141102]again, your version of bpa indirectly accounts for team needs, so it's not actually pure BPA. you can dance around with semantics all you like, but i'd rather not waste another 2 pages on it.[/quote]You guys are funny. You make drive by jabs at a topic, then profess not to want a discussion. Its a convenient place to stand.

But, lets be accurate so we don't have to "waste" to pages, lol. KI lack of understanding and misrepresenting my view isn't my problem. I have never claimed "pure BPA" and wasn't espousing that view in this thread. I am still tickled that someone advocating [I][B]reaching[/B][/I] for a Center [I]then[/I] trading up in a deep draft as a sound strategy then thinks they have a leg to stand on taking pop shots at any other draft strategy let alone any form of BPA.

Anyhow, I've stated my view on the draft, and will be happy to discuss it. Afterall that's kinda what the purpose of these drafts thread is about. "Wasting" time talking about the draft with other people so inclined. And just because my draft view isn't simplistic doesn't make it in anyway semantics.

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EXPERT: [B]Mel Kiper Jr.; [/B]ESPN

SELECTION: [B][COLOR="DarkGreen"]Reggie Ragland[/COLOR][/B]; Linebacker, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 8, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Mackensie Alexander; Cornerback, Clemson (Jan. 14)

--A'Shawn Robinson; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (Feb. 18)

ANALYSIS: "Last year's draft was all about getting tougher and more physical on both sides of the ball. Ragland continues that trend, fills a need, and is ready to play. Solid value here.


EXPERT: [B]Todd McShay[/B]; ESPN

SELECTION: [COLOR="DarkGreen"]Jarran Reed[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 3, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Michael Thomas; Wide Receiver, Ohio State (Dec. 16, 2015)

ANALYSIS: "Reed has the skill set to be the centerpiece in a 3-4 front. At 6-3 and 307 pounds, the Crimson Tide product maintains great leverage and is hard to move off the ball. While he is never going to be a consistent threat to rush the passer from the interior, Reed maintains very good gap discipline versus the run, showing the ability to beat double-teams and penetrate the backfield."





EXPERT: [B]Daniel Jeremiah[/B]; NFL.com

SELECTION: Jarran Reed; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 14, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Sheldon Rankins; Defensive Tackle, Louisville (Jan. 17)

--Robert Nkemdiche; Defensive Tackle, Ole Miss (Feb. 16)

--Darron Lee; Linebacker, Ohio State (March 1)

ANALYSIS: "The Redskins are in need of a run-stuffing defensive tackle. Reed fills that void."





EXPERT: [B]Lance Zierlein[/B]; NFL.com

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Chris Jones[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Mississippi State

DATE OF SELECTION: March 4, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Jarran Reed; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (Jan. 22)

--Mackensie Alexander; Cornerback, Clemson (Feb. 18)

ANALYSIS: "Jones has high football character and he's really talented, too."




EXPERT: [B]Bucky Brooks[/B]; NFL.com

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]A'Shawn Robinson[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 16, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Mackensie Alexander; Cornerback, Clemson (Jan. 17)

--A'Shawn Robinson; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (Feb. 22)

--Jarran Reed; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (March 2)

ANALYSIS: "Without Terrance Knighton, who remains a free agent, in the middle, the Redskins could look to add a rock-solid run stopper to the lineup."




EXPERT: [B]Charles Davis[/B]; NFL.com

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Leonard Floyd[/COLOR]; Linebacker, Georgia

DATE OF SELECTION: March 3, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Sheldon Rankins; Defensive Lineman, Louisville (Feb. 22)

ANALYSIS: "Can be dynamic off the edge, and Washington needs help on all three levels on defense."



EXPERT: [B]Chad Reuter[/B]; NFL.com

SELECTION: Eli Apple; Cornerback, Ohio State

DATE OF SELECTION: March 11, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Mackensie Alexander; Cornerback, Clemson (Jan. 29)

ANALYSIS: "Bashaud Breeland is a promising player, but a corner with good size and athleticism at this point in the first round is too good for general manager Scot McCloughan to pass on."





EXPERT: [B]Pete Prisco[/B]; CBS Sports

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Vernon Hargreaves III[/COLOR]; Florida, Cornerback

DATE OF SELECTION: March 13, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Chris Jones; Defensive Tackle, Mississippi State (Feb. 21)

--Vernon Butler; Defensive Tackle, Louisana Tech (March 1)

--Eli Apple; Ohio State, Cornerback (March 1)

ANALYSIS: "They have to get better outside in coverage and this is a player who excels in man coverage. He would step in and start right away."




EXPERT: [B]Will Brinson[/B]; CBS Sports

SELECTION: A'Shawn Robinson; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 7, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Vernon Butler; Defensive Tackle, Louisana Tech (March 2)

--Andrew Billings; Defensive Tackle, Baylor (March 7)

ANALYSIS: "Scot McCloughan's been focused on bringing big body guys in via the draft and his move here is no different as the Redskins get more physical up front on defense."




EXPERT: [B]Dane Brugler[/B]; CBS Sports

SELECTION: Mackensie Alexander; Cornerback, Clemson

DATE OF SELECTION: March 14, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Jarran Reed; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

--Andrew Billings; Defensive Tackle, Baylor

ANALYSIS: "The Redskins have had good luck drafting cornerbacks out of Clemson (Bashaud Breeland) and if Alexander falls to No. 21, I don't think he'll be around at pick No. 22."




EXPERT: [B]Rob Rang[/B]; CBS Sports

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Reggie Ragland[/COLOR]; Linebacker, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 14, 2016

ANALYSIS: "Washington surrendered an average of 4.8 yards per carry last season (31st in the NFL) and was even worse in the wild-card loss to the Packers, allowing 5.5 yards per attempt. While serving as general manager of the San Francisco 49ers, GM Scot McCloughan plucked Patrick Willis out of the SEC (Mississippi) and saw him emerge as one of the leaders of a formidable defense. Ragland isn't in Willis' class athletically, but he's instinctive, strong and a physical, reliable tackler."

READ MORE: Reggie Ragland To The Redskins?



EXPERT: [B]Peter Schrager[/B]; Fox Sports

SELECTION: Kendall Fuller; Cornerback, Virginia Tech

DATE OF SELECTION: March 3, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Eli Apple; Cornerback, Ohio State (Jan. 26)

ANALYSIS: "After Ramsey and Hargreaves, there's a big gap between Nos. 2 and 3 on my cornerback list. I actually like Fuller more than both Eli Apple, Mackensie Alexander and William Jackson. Fuller comes from a long line of Fullers who have succeeded in the NFL. He's 6-foot, 190 pounds and was a stud at Virginia Tech before an injury cut his 2015 season short. Good pedigree. Strong player. A relatively local kid and a need for Washington."




EXPERT: [B]Chris Burke[/B]; Sports Illustrated

SELECTION:[COLOR="darkgreen"] Andrew Billings[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Baylor

DATE OF SELECTION: March 16, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Josh Doctson; Wide Receiver, TCU (Jan. 10)

--Robert Nkemdiche; Defensive End, Ole Miss (Feb. 12)

--William Jackson III; Cornerback, Houston (March 9)

ANALYSIS: "As is becoming the norm with draft prospects, it's difficult to pin one specific role on Billings. Calling him a "nose tackle" brings to mind visions of a hulking, space-eating presence with limited mobility. Billings hardly fits that description. He can stand up to blockers, but his main selling points are in his penetrating quickness and his effective efforts going side to side."




EXPERT: [B]Matt Miller[/B]; Bleacher Report

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Andrew Billings[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Baylor

DATE OF SELECTION: March 1, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Kenny Clark; Defensive Tackle, UCLA (Jan. 4)

--A'Shawn Robinson; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (Feb. 8)

ANALYSIS: "The 2015 draft, Scot McCloughan's first in Washington, featured picks of tough-nosed football players like Brandon Scherff and Matt Jones, who would help redefine the trenches. If that's any indicator of how McCloughan wants to build a football team, then another Round 1 pick in the middle of the field is possible.

Andrew Billings is one of the meanest players in the draft class. He's super physical at the point of attack and gets enough push in both the run and pass game to be an every-down impact.

Unlike a Danny Shelton from last year, Billings has been more than a one-year wonder, showing the consistent production and disruption in the middle of the line to warrant a first-round pick."




EXPERT: [B]Luke Easterling[/B]; Bleacher Report

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]A'Shawn Robinson[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 7, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Robert Nkemdiche; Defensive End, Ole Miss (Feb. 1)

ANALYSIS: "Washington took care of its biggest need by slapping the franchise tag on quarterback Kirk Cousins, which takes care of the most important position on the field or at least one more season. This should allow the team to focus on the trenches with its early draft picks, particularly by grabbing one of this year's many talented interior defenders.

A'Shawn Robinson was the massive force in the middle of Alabama's dominant defensive front, notching 7.5 tackles for loss in 2015. He's versatile enough to line up at multiple spots for Washington and will give them a disruptive anchor to build around for years to come."




EXPERT: [B]Walter Cherepinsky[/B]; WalterFootball

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Kendall Fuller[/COLOR]; Cornerback, Virginia Tech

DATE OF SELECTION: March 3, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Su'a Cravens; Linebacker, USC (Feb. 1)

--Jaylon Smith; Linebacker, Notre Dame (Feb. 15)

ANALYSIS: "The Redskins have needed help at cornerback for quite some time now. Perhaps they'll finally fix the position in the 2016 NFL Draft, beginning with this pick. Kendall Fuller is a very talented cornerback, but is being pushed down by an injury. A healthy Fuller would be a top-10 choice, so the Redskins are getting great value here."




EXPERT: [B]Charlie Campbell[/B]; WalterFootball

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Jarran Reed[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 14, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Su'a Cravens; Linebacker, USC (Feb. 1)

--Jaylon Smith; Linebacker, Notre Dame (Feb. 15)

--Kendall Fuller; Cornerback, Virginia Tech (March 3)

ANALYSIS: "The Redskins want to get bigger and more athletic on their defensive line. Reed is a safe pick to be a solid defender at the point of attack.

The 6-foot-3, 311-pound Reed was a powerful defender for Alabama at the point attack. He is a strong run defender who fills his gap and is tough to move. Reed isn't much of a pass-rusher though, but he has quickness and athleticism to improve at getting after the quarterback in the NFL.

In 2015, the senior totaled 53 tackles with 4.5 for a loss, one sack and two passes batted. As a junior in 2014, he had 55 tackles with 6.5 for a loss, one sack and five passes batted. Reed was a JUCO player before landing at Alabama."



EXPERT: [B]ProFootballFocus[/B] Staff

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Reggie Ragland[/COLOR]; Linebacker, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 2, 2016

ANALYSIS: "Boasting a strong all-around game, Ragland was one of a number of standouts in Alabama's front-7, grading well against the run ( 13.2) and in coverage ( 9.8) while successfully blitzing and rushing off the edge at times ( 7.7). With one of the worst inside linebacker situations in the NFL, Washington will be watching all of the linebacker prospects very closely."




EXPERT: [B]Chris Collinsworth[/B]; ProFootballFocus

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]William Jackson III[/COLOR]; Cornerback, Houston

DATE OF SELECTION: March 17, 2016

ANALYSIS: "Running a 4.37 40-yard dash at the NFL combine is a good place to start, and his 6-0 height doesn't hurt, either. There is no question that Jackson has a lot to learn - he looks very vulnerable to double moves at the next level, and relies too much on his speed to make up for his mistakes, which is something that will get him in trouble at the next level. But while I don't think Jackson is ready to be left on an island in his first NFL year, he is gifted enough to be selected on the first day. I would love to see what cornerback whisperers like Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll or Mike Zimmer could do with him."




EXPERT: [B]Josh Norris[/B]; Rotoworld

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Mackensie Alexander[/COLOR]; Cornerback, Clemson

DATE OF SELECTION: March 16, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Robert Nkemdiche; Defensive End, Ole Miss (Feb. 11)

--Vernon Butler; Defensive Tackle, Louisana Tech (March 3)

ANALYSIS: "I can see why a lot of people like Alexander. In fact, many love his game. Hate it or love it, corner is now a position of size and stature. It can be difficult to find sub 5'10" corner who successfully plays the ball in contested situations. Jason Verrett was one, and Alexander needs to follow that path. I am unaware if the Redskins use size thresholds for the position, and if so it would likely eliminate Alexander."




EXPERT: [B]Dan Kadar[/B]; SB Nation

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Andrew Billings[/COLOR]; Defensive Tackle, Baylor

DATE OF SELECTION: March 14, 2016

PREVIOUS SELECTION(S):

--Kenny Clark; Defensive Tackle, UCLA (Jan. 25)

--Jarran Reed; Defensive Tackle, Alabama (Feb. 8)


--Sheldon Rankins; Defensive Tackle, Louisville (Feb. 15)

--Robert Nkemdiche; Defensive End, Ole Miss (Feb. 29)

--Reggie Ragland; Linebacker, Alabama (March 7)

ANALYSIS: "If the three best cornerbacks are off the board, Washington could target a defensive lineman or wide receiver in the first round. It would be hard to pass up on Laquon Treadwell of Ole Miss, but Billings is a stellar nose tackle."




EXPERT: [B]Robert Mays[/B]; MMQB

SELECTION: [COLOR="darkgreen"]Ryan Kelly[/COLOR]; Center, Alabama

DATE OF SELECTION: March 1, 2016

ANALYSIS: "Washington has plenty of questions along the defensive line, but Jay Gruden's offense also finished dead last in rushing DVOA last season. Kelly is both nasty and a technician, and along with Derrick Henry was at the center (ha!) of a devastating Alabama running game."

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Whether or not I think we should "reach" for a center has nothing to do with whether or not pure BPA exists. You truly need to take a logic course.

BTW, how is it that some people on this board misunderstand and misrepresent you? You misrepresent yourself by taking positions that are more slippery than an eel and that's why we can't understand you.

Yes or no, if a QB is the best player on Scot M.'s board at #21 will he take that QB?

The answer is no. The player taken at #21 will play a position of need and you can book it. That is simply real world common sense. Many draft experts think that Scott didn't even draft the BPA last year at #5. He needed a top-notch OL so he drafted one instead of drafting the best player on the board.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1141110]Whether or not I think we should "reach" for a center has nothing to do with whether or not pure BPA exists. You truly need to take a logic course.[/quote]Lol, never said it did. (talk about semantics^^) But your view does have everything to with my view of your draft opinions.

Also, you didn't just want to reach for center, you wanted to reach for a center THEN also trade up. And yes, since you see the above as a sound strategy that view imo makes any other draft opinion you have silly to me. So even though I'm not a "pure BPA" advocate knowing that you think its bullshit lets me know that I'm on the right track.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1141105]We're not picking a center at #21. Nothing I've read suggests there is any center good enough to be picked that high.[/quote]I've only read one draftmedia opinion that had Center. I posted a compilation from redskins.com. Most have DL/CB/ILB/Edge rusher.

[quote]I like Billings from Baylor, and there are a few corners I think we could take at #21. There is literally no way to guess who we'll actually end up with. Depends a lot on who the first 20 picks are + the teams own player rankings. So the draft should be interesting.[/quote]I like Billings too. He would fill a whole in the middle of the DL vacated by Knighton. I haven't watched film on him though. Haven't spent much time with the DL this year, by all reports this draft is deep for DL though.

I really like Mackenzie Alexander, but lately it seems that are a number of CBs being mentioned in that range...Artie Burns, William Jackson some even have Vernon Hargraves available (which I doubt). I wonder where Fuller will end up after he runs his 40 at his proday.

I agree it way to early to single in on 1 prospect at pick 21. But who would be say top 5(ish) on your draft board for pick 21?

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all the "experts" are wrong. The Redskins will trade back and add draft choices

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[quote=30gut;1141113]Lol, never said it did. (talk about semantics^^) But your view does have everything to with my view of your draft opinions.

Also, you didn't just want to reach for center, you wanted to reach for a center THEN also trade up. And yes, since you see the above as a sound strategy that view imo makes any other draft opinion you have silly to me. So even though I'm not a "pure BPA" advocate knowing that you think its bullshit lets me know that I'm on the right track.[/quote]

You are a trip!

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[quote=30gut;1141115]I've only read one draftmedia opinion that had Center. I posted a compilation from redskins.com. Most have DL/CB/ILB/Edge rusher.

I like Billings too. He would fill a whole in the middle of the DL vacated by Knighton. I haven't watched film on him though. Haven't spent much time with the DL this year, by all reports this draft is deep for DL though.

I really like Mackenzie Alexander, but lately it seems that are a number of CBs being mentioned in that range...Artie Burns, William Jackson some even have Vernon Hargraves available (which I doubt). I wonder where Fuller will end up after he runs his 40 at his proday.

I agree it way to early to single in on 1 prospect at pick 21. But who would be say top 5(ish) on your draft board for pick 21?[/quote]

Either of the Alabama Defensive Linemen, Alexander, Billings, William Jackson, Darren Lee, Leonard Floyd (not a need, but I like him). That's 7, there are a few others. Above aren't in any particular order.

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Interesting...could be trade city on draft day...

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645887/article/washington-redskins-gm-wants-12-picks-by-draft-day]Washington Redskins GM wants 12 picks by draft day - NFL.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1141132]Interesting...could be trade city on draft day...

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000645887/article/washington-redskins-gm-wants-12-picks-by-draft-day]Washington Redskins GM wants 12 picks by draft day - NFL.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Love the strategy of increases draft picks, especially in this deep draft....but it's not really telling us anything new. I think most GMs want more draft picks.

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[quote=30gut;1141140]Love the strategy of increases draft picks, especially in this deep draft....but it's not really telling us anything new. I think most GMs want more draft picks.

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I don't like trading in the 1st round solely because it doesn't happen until right before the pick you waited hours to watch.

In terms of actual football strategy, I have no problems with trading down in any round. If a team gives you a great deal you almost have to take it.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1141129]Either of the Alabama Defensive Linemen, Alexander, Billings, William Jackson, Darren Lee, Leonard Floyd (not a need, but I like him). That's 7, there are a few others. Above aren't in any particular order.[/quote]Right now Mack is probably my favorite CB but admittedly I haven't spent as much time with the other CBs. I've read about them, just haven't watched them yet.

I think we talked about edge rushers and Floyd in another thread? If a edge rusher is BPA at 21 or any other pick, I'm all for it. My actual hand to fire answer to Chico? question who would you pick was Emmanuel Ogbah. Nothing against Floyd, just really like Manny O. I know Floyd's production numbers aren't up there compared to other edge rushers because he wasn't always an edge rusher at Georgia. His measurable are excellent but to my eye he seems like a projection as edge rusher that needs to bulk up a lil.

I used to really like Darron Lee but the more I watched the more I wondered about his fit in this defense. I have yet to see Lee have to shed a block, and this defense he'll be asked to stack and shed. Not saying that he can't do it. Only that I haven't seen him do it on film because both the scheme and the DL surrounding talent kept him proctected. I would like Lee more in 43 or weakside ILB in a 2-gap 34. But, his range and ability to play sideline to sideline is outstanding.

If you have positional top 5(ish) ranking I would be curious to see them

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1141146]I don't like trading in the 1st round solely because it doesn't happen until right before the pick you waited hours to watch.

In terms of actual football strategy, I have no problems with trading down in any round. If a team gives you a great deal you almost have to take it.[/quote]Yeah, I guess from our fan vantage point with the waiting and all that...but as a fan of the draft, I like it when a GM is creative with get more plate appearances.

It would be a very shrewd move to pull off a trade down in this draft because of the depth. Hopefully someone team will be chasing after a QB or something.