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The thing that's driving me up the walls right now are his circle jerk campaign rallies. I'm already paying tax dollars for other stupid shit I don't approve of. It TRULY pisses me off that I'm paying for him to go and self-fellatate with a bunch of other tools. Has any other president in history done shit like that?

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I've been trying to tune him out as much as possible. He's such a stupid fucking embarrassment.

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1172659]The thing that's driving me up the walls right now are his circle jerk campaign rallies. I'm already paying tax dollars for other stupid shit I don't approve of. It TRULY pisses me off that I'm paying for him to go and self-fellatate with a bunch of other tools. Has any other president in history done shit like that?[/quote]Nephew works for a TV station in Iowa and he was sent to the cover the trump rally,they were told where to stand and what to show becuase the arena was not full,he said many people are going just to see him they don't necessarily support him which is what we all thought anyway.As he said people like watching train wrecks.




P.S. from someone who was there last night.(not nephew)

[url]https://twitter.com/davecatanese/status/900165684226703360/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.city-data.com%2Fforum%2Fpolitics-other-controversies%2F2811970-trump-supporters-fake-photos-huge-crowds-6.html[/url]

trump claimed 15,000,you decided for yourself.

[url=http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/2811970-trump-supporters-fake-photos-huge-crowds-5.html]Trump supporters post fake photos of huge crowds at Phoenix rally - as real images show room half-empty - Politics and Other Controversies -Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Conservatives, Liberals, Third Parties, Left-Wing, Right-Wing, Congress,[/url]

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Yeah that's pretty embarrassing but par for the course as far as El Presidente goes. TMC, I can't remember the last standing President that had campaign rallies 8 months in either.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/kasich-hickenlooper-2020-unity-ticket/index.html]Source: Kasich, Hickenlooper consider unity presidential ticket in 2020 - CNNPolitics[/url]

Would def give this strong consideration

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i would love something like this. thought kasich was definitely the best candidate the GOP had/ have

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[quote=Chico23231;1172687][URL="http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/25/politics/kasich-hickenlooper-2020-unity-ticket/index.html"]Source: Kasich, Hickenlooper consider unity presidential ticket in 2020 - CNNPolitics[/URL]

Would def give this strong consideration[/quote]

Idk much about Kasich or Hickenlooper but I'm all in favor of two people crossing party lines to come together for the good of the majority. A little give-and-take goes a long way.

Unrelated side note, it's a good time to be a top law enforcement official convicted in a court of law of disobeying a judge's direct order. At least he's not Sheriff Joe anymore.

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[quote=dmek25;1172692]i would love something like this. thought kasich was definitely the best candidate the GOP had/ have[/quote]


I am all for it,anything is better than what we have in there now!!!

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[url=http://reverepress.com/news/boycott-7-nfl-teams-funding-donald-trumps-agenda/]Boycott These 7 NFL Teams Funding Donald Trump's Agenda[/url]

Damnit, Dan.

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[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-admin-talking-points-daca-recipients-should-prepare-to-leave-us/ar-AArmH7b?li=BBnb7Kz]Trump admin talking points: DACA recipients should prepare to leave US[/url]

"With all the compassion in my heart, I just want to tell these young illegals, to gtfo. Lousy foreigners, I mean come on these kids can't even hold down jobs. Stop breathing the sweet air of freedom, you're Mehico's problem now."

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So fucking tired of Trump's shit

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Taking the visceral anti-Trump reaction out the equation, the bottom line is that Obama's unilateral determination to administratively nullify laws on the books was a HUGE deal. Sure, it was for a good thing - who could oppose "Dreamers" motivated to succeed. I mean, how could anyone refuse to help these kids?

I don't know. Ask Congress. The legislative branch specifically refused to enact a law that would have created a legal exemption for DACA kids. After the legislature refused to rescind the law prohibiting it, Obama decided that the rule of law is for losers and meanies. He had a pen and phone, <in my best bandito voice> "Laws? We don't need no stinking laws!"

Obama justified the refusal to enforce on the executive branch's prosecutorial discretion (Congress makes the laws, the President enforces them - but sometimes POTUS just can't enforce them all, so he gets to pick and choose what to enforce).

The administrative DACA rule was a really big step the usurpation of legislative power by the executive. Sure, this time it was for a good thing. But the funny thing about laws in a common law society is that once a branch of government expands its authority, particularly the executive branch which is entrusted with police powers, it generally does move back. Today the POTUS says, he we just want to help kids. Tomorrow, enforcing this law would make it tough for business, enforcing this law makes it hard for cops to do their job, enforcing this law stops us from monitioring everyone allowing the bad guys to stir up bad stuff and break down society. No, No ... don't worry about passing any new laws, we'll just do stuff that we think is best - We have pens and a phone (and the police, prosecutors, army, etc.)

You want to be pissed? Get angry at Congress for failing to lawfully enact Daca in the first place. The have six months to come up with a fix. Call you congressman and tell them to get off there ass.

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Good post Joe, that's some insight I didn't think about, tbh I didn't follow the process of how DACA got enabled in the first place. But you're right, if Obama overstepped his authority to ride it through that's not cool, especially considering the doors it opens for future presidents. I still hold out hope Congress will do the right thing, even if their track record says otherwise.

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Here we go with the Thanks Obama shit. Trump and this admin are full of turds. Congress too. Fuck em all. They're fucking with good people's lives. Fuck their bullshit.

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[quote=mooby;1173278][url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-admin-talking-points-daca-recipients-should-prepare-to-leave-us/ar-AArmH7b?li=BBnb7Kz]Trump admin talking points: DACA recipients should prepare to leave US[/url]

"With all the compassion in my heart, I just want to tell these young illegals, to gtfo. Lousy foreigners, I mean come on these kids can't even hold down jobs. Stop breathing the sweet air of freedom, you're Mehico's problem now."[/quote]

So, when does Melanie leave???

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[quote=mooby;1173290]Good post Joe, that's some insight I didn't think about, tbh I didn't follow the process of how DACA got enabled in the first place. But you're right, if Obama overstepped his authority to ride it through that's not cool, especially considering the doors it opens for future presidents. I still hold out hope Congress will do the right thing, even if their track record says otherwise.[/quote]


NO, yes JR is right(as always) about DACA.But why now,why do this now?These are not the criminals he was talking about during the campaign ,yes make Congress do their job.Don't blame Obama,he was trying to do the right thing with a Congress that turned down anything with his name on it and this is the result of Congress not doing the job they were elected to do.
If the people around trump have any sense at all they will find a way to fix this nightmare or the GOP is going to pay in a big way.

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[quote=mooby;1173290]Good post Joe, that's some insight I didn't think about, tbh I didn't follow the process of how DACA got enabled in the first place. But you're right, if Obama overstepped his authority to ride it through that's not cool, especially considering the doors it opens for future presidents. I still hold out hope Congress will do the right thing, even if their track record says otherwise.[/quote]


NO, yes JR is right(as always) about DACA.But why now,why do this now?These are not the criminals he was talking about during the campaign ,yes make Congress do their job.Don't blame Obama,he was trying to do the right thing with a Congress that turned down anything with his name on it and this is the result of Congress not doing the job they were elected to do.
If the people around trump have any sense at all they will find a way to fix this nightmare or the GOP is going to pay in a big way.I will add that I do believe that trump decided to play with this now becuase of the Mueller investigations.Yeah I think he is that big pf an ass.

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[quote=MTK;1173291]Here we go with the Thanks Obama shit. Trump and this admin are full of turds. Congress too. Fuck em all. They're fucking with good people's lives. Fuck their bullshit.[/quote]


Didn't say they weren't.

as for the "Thanks Obama shit," sorry, but, when it comes to [I]ultra vires[/I] expansion of authority, Obama excelled at running the imperial presidency.

In general, it was due in large part to the obstructionism on Republican party and I would suggest was motivated by a genuine desire to help disadvantaged populations. It doesn't change the fact that the Obama presidency advanced the authority of the Presidency and the administrative/regulatory branch of government considerably.

[As an example, during the Obama Admin, public universities were expected to follow the Dept. of Education's Office of Civil Rights "sub-regulatory" guidance or be subjected to incredibly burdensome audits, significant fines, lengthy litigation, and/or having their institution placed on a public watch list (destroying enrollment). The guidance was "sub-regulatory" b/c it didn't even go through the vetting process required for agencies to enact binding regulation; it really was just a policy statement by the head bureaucrat and, if institutions did not follow the administrator's pronouncements, expect an audit of every Title VII, Title VI an Title IX complaint brought against the school in the previous three years. It was HORRIBLE]

However, by doing an end around the obstructionists,

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[quote=Giantone;1173293]So, when does Melanie leave???[/quote]

Whoa, she gets the hot blonde exception. This only applies to dirty Mexicans.

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[quote=MTK;1173291]Here we go with the Thanks Obama shit. Trump and this admin are full of turds. Congress too. Fuck em all. They're fucking with good people's lives. Fuck their bullshit.[/quote]

We've got a live response from Congress to your post:

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[quote=Giantone;1173295]NO, yes JR is right(as always) about DACA.But why now,why do this now?These are not the criminals he was talking about during the campaign ,yes make Congress do their job.Don't blame Obama,he was trying to do the right thing with a Congress that turned down anything with his name on it and this is the result of Congress not doing the job they were elected to do.
If the people around trump have any sense at all they will find a way to fix this nightmare or the GOP is going to pay in a big way.I will add that I do believe that trump decided to play with this now becuase of the Mueller investigations.Yeah I think he is that big pf an ass.[/quote]

To expand on your last point, I'll just go ahead and assume this is to distract us from some important news we probably need to be paying attention to, like the military trans ban is.

Matt, FYI all I'm saying is if Obama overstepped his boundaries to get shit passed, it might have worse ramifications down the road, especially with this current clown show. DACA was obviously intended to help the less fortunate, and I'm all for it. But this is just the latest step in Trump's anti-Obama legislation, I'm pretty sure the magic words are "Obama did this" and Trump gets gung ho about getting rid of it. And his fans eat this shit up. One of my coworkers thinks these kids aren't getting vetted before acceptance into the program (his reasoning is the gov't can't afford it or they don't care). It's comical. DREAMers are just the latest disadvantaged people getting the shaft.

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Here's hoping that Congress does the right thing. The effect on several state's economies would be significant if they start deporting them.

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When it comes to immigration policy, dreamers seem like the ones a country would covet.

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[quote=Chico23231;1173315]When it comes to immigration policy, dreamers seem like the ones a country would covet.[/quote]

I'm pretty sure Trump's immigration policy is like the 40/40 club's door policy. You see SHS's latest comments? These DREAMers are taking other well deserving minorities jobs?!?! lol.

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[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-jokes-about-the-size-of-his-hands-for-the-second-time-in-2-weeks-at-hurricane-relief-event/ar-AArW3JJ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp]Trump jokes about the size of his hands for the second time in 2 weeks at hurricane relief event[/url]

Man, I will never forget when he referenced dick size at the debate. Lets admit, that was great.

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Imagine if Obama was talking about this kind of shit? Fucking A

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[quote=MTK;1174046]Imagine if Obama was talking about this kind of shit? Fucking A[/quote]

Nah, Obama's too much of a pussy to talk about this. Trump's a real man.

Speaking of the best quote I've heard and one of my instant favs, I wish I could credit where I heard it from but I can't remember atm.

Paraphrasing here "the best thing Trump ever did was convince the working middle class that a guy with a gold apartment was one of them."

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Big DT on twitter:

"I spoke with President Moon of South Korea last night. Asked him how Rocket Man is doing. Long gas lines forming in North Korea. Too bad!"

Rocket Man....lol gotta love it. And the golf gif that hit Clinton was hilarious. Of course the snowflakes screamed "violence against woman is not a joke" which made me laugh harder.

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[quote=Chico23231;1174396]Big DT on twitter:

"I spoke with President Moon of South Korea last night. Asked him how Rocket Man is doing. Long gas lines forming in North Korea. Too bad!"

Rocket Man....lol gotta love it. And the golf gif that hit Clinton was hilarious. Of course the snowflakes screamed "violence against woman is not a joke" which made me laugh harder.[/quote]
I see your point yet it's the republicans screaming when a comedian takes a shot at the President or anyone for that matter and wants them fired.I think the snowflake is on the wrong foot.I mean "violence against women is as funny as a decapitated head of a president' ,both tasteless but thought of at the time to be funny.:twocents:

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Still hard to accept we have a POTUS that tweets like a teenager.

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[QUOTE=MTK;1174411]Still hard to accept we have a POTUS that tweets like a teenager.[/QUOTE]



It's completely unacceptable. If Trump was born a North Korean ruler he would be the same exact unstable idiot and loving every minute of it.

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Funny that Colbert had Spicey stealing the show...and then the snowflakes again can't take a joke and were crying on social media like a bunch of bitches.

So funny how sensitive everyone is...its amazing. Even when humor is brought in to lighten the general negative political atmosphere people still find ways to bitch. It's truely funny

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[quote=Chico23231;1174426]Funny that Colbert had Spicey stealing the show...and then the snowflakes again can't take a joke and were crying on social media like a bunch of bitches.

So funny how sensitive everyone is...its amazing. Even when humor is brought in to lighten the general negative political atmosphere people still find ways to bitch. It's truely funny[/quote]

I agree,everyone needs to lighten up,everyone.




It's just sad that trump is president.

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Given how much of a nightmare Trump is I can't blame people for being a little sensitive.

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The nightmare has been the backstabbing of the Republican swamp dwellers. Liberal comedians have always gotten butthurt over every thing that offends there delicate sensibilities.

As for the tweeting, that will be the new norm just as press conferences were when network media become the main communication tool. We ought to be thankful he's not snapchatting though.

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[quote=Chico23231;1174426]Funny that Colbert had Spicey stealing the show...and then the snowflakes again can't take a joke and were crying on social media like a bunch of bitches.

So funny how sensitive everyone is...its amazing. Even when humor is brought in to lighten the general negative political atmosphere people still find ways to bitch. It's truely funny[/quote]

Pick your words more carefully, everyone is a fairly broad term. I don't care about the Emmy's or what jokes were made. Snowflakes exist on both sides of the aisle. Why else are the right crying about statues being torn down and history being erased? Nevermind the fact that that message is being silenced thanks to the white supremacists using it to advance their own cause. If you really want to see history being erased, go to Turkey, where the Minister of Education just overhauled 170 topics for the curriculum, which includes all references to evolution being removed from biology. It could be so much worse. Don't we have bigger things to worry about than Spicer cracking a joke or two at the Emmy's?

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Yeah, the snowflake thing drives me a little crazy too. Just like mooby said, they exist on both sides, but right now social media is, "I don't agree with you, so therefore SNOWFLAKE! SNOWFLAKE! SNOWFLAKE!". It basically stops ALL discussion in any forum these days.

I didn't see the Emmys, but I had to give the guy credit for cracking some fun at himself.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1174446]

As for the tweeting, that will be the new norm just as press conferences were when network media become the main communication tool. We ought to be thankful he's not snapchatting though.[/quote]

Not everyone tweets,how is that going to be the new norm?

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LOL, what the fuck is the big deal???Does anyone remember the Smothers Brothers Show,they would take shots at all the politicians ,just as Sat Night Live has since it started ,shit Bob Hope ,Jack Benny both use to do it all the time it's not new why is everyone crying now?


[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTHge8q0zwY[/url]



Gun Control.....

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya2Yt_PkDUU[/url]

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1174455]Yeah, the snowflake thing drives me a little crazy too. Just like mooby said, they exist on both sides, but right now social media is, "I don't agree with you, so therefore SNOWFLAKE! SNOWFLAKE! SNOWFLAKE!". It basically stops ALL discussion in any forum these days.

I didn't see the Emmys, but I had to give the guy credit for cracking some fun at himself.[/quote]

[url=http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/emmys/james-corden-laughs-off-criticism-of-his-goofing-off-with-sean-spicer-at-the-emmys/ar-AAsdoDV?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp]James Corden Laughs Off Criticism of His Goofing Off with Sean Spicer at the Emmys[/url]

Read the twitter quotes within the article...these are snowflakes posting them.