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[quote=skinsfaninok;1176727]We need more from pryor and doc, those guys are absent[/quote]

It seems the only time Doc is in there before the redzone it is a tell tale sign that we are running the ball

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Love the celebration, but I'm sure the NFL won't lol.

S/N this is something we don't normally see or think about but watching Montae Nicholson after Garcon trucked him makes me think we should start seeing a penalty for leading with the crown, and it shouldn't matter whether it's offense or defense. Look at Nicholson twitching on the ground, he might actually be having a seizure as a result of that hit. Watching the helmet pop off the head gives me an idea of how hard of a collision that was. Very dangerous for both players. And I'm not just saying this because that's a Redskin twitching on the ground, those are the types of hits that need to be taken out of the game.

[url]https://twitter.com/Foxworth24/status/919633484217495552[/url]

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How about props for Ryan Grant? 3 catches (I think all for first downs) and in traffic. He had more yards than Pryor and Doctson combined.

So Pryor will have a lot fewer yards with us than as a receiver for the Browns last year. Crazy. Whatever wishful thinking that he and Doctson would make up for Garçon and DJax should be out the window by now. Teams don't really fear our WRs and with reason.


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Special teams was the biggest con for me yesterday. the missed extra point, poor tackling and even Tress let us down with his punting, especially that 4th qtr one where he kicked it into the end zone.

Otherwise a win is a win. Lot of injuries and SF has been in all their games this year, we could have easily lost. Good teams find ways to win.

BRING ON THE EAGLES!!!

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[quote=mooby;1176739]Love the celebration, but I'm sure the NFL won't lol.

S/N this is something we don't normally see or think about but watching Montae Nicholson after Garcon trucked him makes me think we should start seeing a penalty for leading with the crown, and it shouldn't matter whether it's offense or defense.
[url]https://twitter.com/Foxworth24/status/919633484217495552[/url][/quote]

The leading-with-the-crown-of-your-helmet rule is a much more controversial new rule. Both offensive and defensive players who lead with the top of the helmet will be flagged 15 yards in certain, specific circumstances. Should both players be flagged, the penalties will offset and the teams will replay the down.
"It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line)," the new rule -- Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 -- reads. "Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul."

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tuck-rule-abolished-leading-with-crown-of-helmet-made-illegal/[/url]

I dont think garcon really lead with the crown of his helmet. Seems like Nicholson came in with his head lower.

Really hard to watch. A couple plays a game it makes me feel uncomfortable.

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Cut blocks down field. I thought they eliminated low/cut blocks outside the box and down field but I looked up the rule and didnt see anything. That fucking Niner O lineman just pussy blocked Breeland's knees for no reason.

Secondary is spread way to thin w injuries, D needs to play soft and off.

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Not as mad as most considering we were down to like our fifth string corners. Just NEED to get healthy. Does anyone know anything about Breeland?

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;1176751]Not as mad as most considering we were down to like our fifth string corners. Just NEED to get healthy. Does anyone know anything about Breeland?[/quote]

I read a quote where he said he is not as worried now as he was on the field. Believed to be an MCL sprain, MRI monday to determine severity. He had a prior MCL injury.

They need to cut cut blocking all together. That and pushing guys onto/over piles after the play is dead.
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Both Allen and Breeland have been crucial to the success and vast improvement of the defense, with the rookie defensive end leading the d-line in snaps and Breeland playing the best football of his career.

Worryingly for the Redskins, Allen was seen leaving the locker room in a walking boot. The first-round pick was quickly ruled out upon exiting the game after heading back for x-rays.

Rich Tandler ✔@TandlerNBCS
Breeland walking through the locker room with a pronounced limp but no brace or other support on the knee. #Redskins
5:26 PM - Oct 15, 2017 · Summerfield, MD

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Argh. Yeah, the second I saw that play, I was like, there goes his knee.

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Per Tandler:

Someone’s a bit salty.

It clearly was a pick play but they usually don’t call it unless the ball goes to the receiver who was freed.

PG says:
I’m going to just leave this here. They said it was Offense of Pass Interference. @ Washington,… instagram.com/p/BaSRMLCjPyh/

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1176758]Per Tandler:



Someone’s a bit salty.



It clearly was a pick play but they usually don’t call it unless the ball goes to the receiver who was freed.



PG says:

I’m going to just leave this here. They said it was Offense of Pass Interference. @ Washington,… instagram.com/p/BaSRMLCjPyh/[/QUOTE]



I say it makes up for the shitty call on the Davis “fumble”

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[quote=skinsfan69;1176730]My issue today was Gruden. Particularly at the end of the game. There was too much time left in the game to try and milk the clock. He needed to be thinking first down, especially after Hopkins missed that PAT and SF scored so quickly. That conservative play calling almost costed us the game.[/quote]

Punting into the end zone was not smart. Should have been a booming, high, but short punt to have milked a little more time off the clock and to have gotten the punt coverage down the field in time. Instead, the punt goes into the end zone. :/

Still, a win's a win and now off to Philly.

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[quote=metalskins;1176701]Told ya it was going to be closer than people were assuming. It shouldn't have been, but San Fan's record is not a reflection of their team. The could have easily had three wins at least right now. Glad we got the win. We need everyone healthy for next Monday night.[/quote]

I am hoping San Fran finally puts it all together with Beathard for next week against dallass.

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[quote=hutch17;1176766]I am hoping San Fran finally puts it all together with Beathard for next week against dallass.[/quote]

San Fran beating Dallas with a rookie QB and one that has the name sake of our beloved Bobby Beathard would be outstanding!

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[quote=OmahaRedskins;1176726]I did and it comes out to 3-2 and second place in the east.[/quote]

Exactly. And tell the Broncos about an 0-5 team coming to their place and winning. Any given Sunday, and all that. We saw that the Rams are better than we thought when we played them, and likely so are the 49ers. We get WAY too crazy when we think the Skins “have” to beat someone.

Let’s not think that the Giants are going to be an easy out just because of their record. In that sense, last night’s game was very helpful, I think...

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Anyone worried our offense hasnt really jelled consistently yet? Cousins went 25/37, 330 yds, 3 tds 1 int but that underneath stuff wont be there if that becomes our staple and teams game plan for it. Worked yesterday and that could have been a one time game plan.

Long range passing attack - not really there like years past. D jax factor? Just need to be patient and let Cousins-Crowder-Pryor figure it out?

Running game - rams game seems like an exception, not the rule. CT averaged 2.1 yds on 16 carries, Perrine 2.6 on 9 carries. Maybe SF has a solid run D, after yesterday they allow the 5th fewest yds per carry.

We are finding ways to win games.

I just really wish the down field passing attack would be hitting more than they are.
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edit - just saw a slow mo reply of the garcon-Nicholson hit. Garcon definitely lowered his crown. Text book lowering crown. I was wrong on that.

[url]https://twitter.com/ChadwikoRCC/status/919632702206177280?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.12up.com%2Fposts%2F5675720-video-this-terrifying-video-of-a-redskins-defender-proves-just-how-violent-the-nfl-is[/url]

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Like that our D starts games fired up and focused. But we seem to pay for that with slack or average play later in games that lets opponents back in. Does the amphetamine wear off?

Needed more of a killer instinct from Gruden on last offensive series. Show KC that you trust him to bootleg or option, that you can spread and let CT to find a hole for 6 yards. That ends the game.

On teams, does anyone find it odd that we were never in position to return a punt? Always a fair catch (smartly), but the first guy always gets to Crowder just as he's catching. (I know, at least he's catching.) One 18 yard return per game is all I'm asking for.

These knee and head shots get harder to watch every year.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1176768]Exactly. And tell the Broncos about an 0-5 team coming to their place and winning. Any given Sunday, and all that. We saw that the Rams are better than we thought when we played them, and likely so are the 49ers. We get WAY too crazy when we think the Skins “have” to beat someone.

Let’s not think that the Giants are going to be an easy out just because of their record. In that sense, last night’s game was very helpful, I think...[/quote]

very good points.

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For what it is worth:

Ranked #6

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2731095-nfl-power-rankings-where-does-every-team-stand-heading-into-week-7]NFL Power Rankings: Where Does Every Team Stand Heading into Week 7? | Bleacher Report[/url]

The Redskins could have put their game against the 49ers away earlier, but it was still a solid win. Chris Thompson continues to impress as a runner and as a receiver out of the backfield. The defense was again solid, though there were a few times it let the 49ers off the hook.

Instead of making life miserable on C.J. Beathard, the Redskins allowed him to keep San Francisco in the game. There were far too many big pass plays from a guy seeing his first NFL action for my liking.

The Redskins' passing game is fantastic, though it would be nice to see Kirk Cousins getting the ball to Terrelle Pryor and Josh Doctson more. When the run game is clicking to complement the pass, the Washington offense can be lethal.

Overall, the Redskins are one of the better teams in the NFC.

[B]It may seem odd for Washington to move up so much after beating the winless 49rs, but San Francisco is a tough opponent that competes hard every single week. This is a team that was coming off a bye, that wasn't sharp and was missing its best defender in Josh Norman. It still found a way to win. That's the mark of a playoff contender.[/B]

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[quote=MTK;1176760]I say it makes up for the shitty call on the Davis “fumble”[/quote]

Yeah this. Almost.

That call was so bad. SO BAD. It handed SF a TD and instead it should have been our ball. Completely changed the game.

I was so angry after that one that I almost couldn't enjoy the win. It enraged me so bad, and as the 49ers kept creeping back in the game all I could think was if we lose this game because of that call I'm going to kill something.

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[quote=Schneed10;1176779]Yeah this. Almost.

That call was so bad. SO BAD. It handed SF a TD and instead it should have been our ball. Completely changed the game.

I was so angry after that one that I almost couldn't enjoy the win. It enraged me so bad, and as the 49ers kept creeping back in the game all I could think was if we lose this game because of that call I'm going to kill something.[/quote]

Me to the T

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Allen out 3 weeks according to NFLN

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1176782]Allen out 3 weeks according to NFLN[/quote]

Fudge.

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Keim is saying" a month for Allen He will visit Dr. Robert Anderson for a further diagnosis."...too me means a stronger possibility he could be gone longer...that is if your cup is half four wins.

Per Keim
Losing Jonathan Allen will hurt the Redskins. The rookie has started in nickel and helps collapse the pocket. Second-year Anthony Lanier replaces him. Coach Jay Gruden said Allen "plays like a vet."

Lanier is one of these "potential" guys...time for him to step the f&ck up

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Gruden told the media :Corner Bashaud Breeland might play Monday despite spraining his MCL vs. the 49ers. He underwent an MRI Monday.

Also:

Coach Jay Gruden said they will consider taking DeAngelo Hall off the PUP list Wednesday or next week. Gruden said he's "pretty darn close" to 100 percent but they want to make sure.

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Kicker whisper Solid Snake was on to something:

per kiem

Redskins PK Dustin Hopkins has a right hip rotator muscle strain. The Redskins will work out kickers Tuesday, just in case Hopkins can't kick vs. Philadelphia on Oct. 23.

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The dreaded Lisfranc injury.

Why do Redskins rookies seem to get this injury?

Phillip Thomas, Morgan Moses and Fabian Moreau all got it. Now Allen.

3-4 weeks sounds like it isnt that bad of a fx bc im guessing if he needed surgery, he would be IR'd.

[IMG]https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d5/27/31/d52731186d5575c2be588b316ae93185--lisfranc-injury-sprain.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]https://www.thpg.org/texas-foot-ankle-orthopedics/PublishingImages/Lisfranc-Fixation.png[/IMG]

^^ Jeez louise ... what ya do? jump off a 5 story building? ouch

*** these are demonstrative and NOT Jonathan Allen's foot

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Allen was having a phenomenal season...this fuckin hurts as bad as losing Norman at Corner. Maybe more because our DL depth isn't as solid.

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This defense may be in for a long night on Monday.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1176782]Allen out 3 weeks according to NFLN[/quote]

The hits keep coming, literally and figuratively. Each passing week gets a little harder with these injuries piling up. Gonna be a very tough game this week against an Eagles squad and our defense missing Norman, potentially Breeland, Allen, etc. Not to mention Nicholson and Swearinger will be banged up. It's winnable but the offense is going to have to be on point.

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[quote=Chico23231;1176785]Gruden told the media :Corner Bashaud Breeland might play Monday despite spraining his MCL vs. the 49ers. He underwent an MRI Monday.

Also:

Coach Jay Gruden said they will consider taking DeAngelo Hall off the PUP list Wednesday or next week. Gruden said he's "pretty darn close" to 100 percent but they want to make sure.[/quote]

Who you gonna take off the field for D.Hall, Nicholson or Swearinger? Idc if Hall sees the field again for the Skins, he's a little old to play corner and our safety tandem is finally decent for once.

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[quote=mooby;1176791]The hits keep coming, literally and figuratively. Each passing week gets a little harder with these injuries piling up. Gonna be a very tough game this week against an Eagles squad and our defense missing Norman, potentially Breeland, Allen, etc. Not to mention Nicholson and Swearinger will be banged up. It's winnable but the offense is going to have to be on point.[/quote]

Getting an extra day of rest should help...just realized Eagles will have a semi-bye after Thursday night...And their at home???



*Note to self: restock on Kush and Johnnie Walker Black this weekend before Monday night game*

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[quote=mooby;1176792]Who you gonna take off the field for D.Hall, Nicholson or Swearinger? Idc if Hall sees the field again for the Skins, he's a little old to play corner and our safety tandem is finally decent for once.[/quote]

McClure will probably be the cut...D Hall will probably be in a package or two at the most.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1176790]This defense may be in for a long night on Monday.[/QUOTE]



Most thought the offense would start slow and get better throughout the season. They have been improving, but I think they will need to make a big leap next Monday to take pressure off our injury ridden defense. It could be a shoot out. It's time for Doctson and Prior to step the f#€% up.


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[QUOTE=WillH;1176797]Most thought the offense would start slow and get better throughout the season. They have been improving, but I think they will need to make a big leap next Monday to take pressure off our injury ridden defense. It could be a shoot out. It's time for Doctson and Prior to step the f#€% up.


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Just saw Doctson was only in for 18 snaps. I'm happy that Grant is producing, but JD needs more playing time. He is showing what his potential can bring this team, it's time to get him more reps on passing downs. Hell, if you don't want to take them from Grant, take them from Pryor.


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We're dropping like flies on defense. We're beat to shit. Gonna have to keep this in mind when watching on Monday. Hate excuses in football, but this is just brutal. I hate when big guys get foot injuries. Just ugh!

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Looks like a legit play to me, refs need to chill, back in the day this is called finishing your block

[url]https://streamable.com/nz6rv[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1176806]Looks like a legit play to me, refs need to chill, back in the day this is called finishing your block

[url]https://streamable.com/nz6rv[/url][/quote]

The refs completely shit the bed this week...terrible flag

Just lovely:

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Redskins K Dustin Hopkins (hip) is week to week.
He's out for Week 7 against the Eagles on Monday Night Football, so the Redskins will be signing a kicker.

Fuck. Seriously banged up team

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[quote=MTK;1176806]Looks like a legit play to me, refs need to chill, back in the day this is called finishing your block

[url]https://streamable.com/nz6rv[/url][/quote]

I loved the block, that's the best block I've seen by Redskins o-lineman in years. TBH, I thought the flag was for ramming the linebacker in the back with his helmet, which I don't have a problem with. If the flag really was for the block, it was a shit call.

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Is it me or do the injuries seem to get worse each year? It's making the sport much less enjoyable IMO. I remember when you could expect to watch your favorite players play the entire season. Not anymore it seems.

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[quote=over the mountain;1176750]The leading-with-the-crown-of-your-helmet rule is a much more controversial new rule. Both offensive and defensive players who lead with the top of the helmet will be flagged 15 yards in certain, specific circumstances. Should both players be flagged, the penalties will offset and the teams will replay the down.
"It is a foul if a runner or tackler initiates forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top/crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box (an area extending from tackle to tackle and from three yards beyond the line of scrimmage to the offensive team's end line)," the new rule -- Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 -- reads. "Incidental contact by the helmet of a runner or tackler against an opponent shall not be a foul."

[url]https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/tuck-rule-abolished-leading-with-crown-of-helmet-made-illegal/[/url]

I dont think garcon really lead with the crown of his helmet. Seems like Nicholson came in with his head lower.

Really hard to watch. A couple plays a game it makes me feel uncomfortable.

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[B]Cut blocks down field. I thought they eliminated low/cut blocks outside the box and down field but I looked up the rule and didnt see anything. [/B]That fucking Niner O lineman just pussy blocked Breeland's knees for no reason.

Secondary is spread way to thin w injuries, D needs to play soft and off.[/quote]

- I'm pretty sure the rule is outside the box, a low block is only legal if made clearly in front of the defender (not from the side) , and in the direction of the play.

At least that is the way we're told to apply the rule in France, where we play with NCAA rules.

Both conditions are met on the play Breeland gets injured on. So to me it's cheap but legal.



- On the other hand, the fact that Nicholson was allowed back into the game amazes me... Makes you wonder about the quality of the concussion protocol...

"Are you concussed? -No Auntie I'm fine. I like puppies. -Ok he's fine send him back there"...