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Defensewins 03-08-2018 04:07 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1189992]How would that system be structured?
A rookie pool, A "keep our own" pool, and a FA cap?

Or something like a transition tag where a team can match any offer, but then only have a certain amount count against the overall cap?

I doubt the players would go along with either of those concepts because they would claim that the league is prohibiting freedom of movement.

Just curious how you would see it worked out[/quote]


Keep the Salary Cap System but add a team option exemption to allow teams exceed the cap [B]only to sign their own players.[/B] If a team exceeds the cap by signing their own, they are [B]prohibited to sign [/B]a high dollar (say more than $1M) Free agent.
IF they want to sign a high dollar >$1M Free agent they then [B]have to get back under the cap to do it[/B]. That will prevent the wealthy teams from going nuts in Free Agency which was the original concern.
Do away with Tagging players system so players once they finish their rookie contract can be free agents if they so choose. Or can choose to stay with the team that drafted them, but the team can now pay him market value with out concern of the cap. That will get the players and fans on board because you will not see fan favorites have to change teams because of the cap. Which happens every year.

skinsfaninok - The comparison to Baseball would not apply because a team over the cap cannot sign even moderately paid free agents until they get back under the cap.

CRedskinsRule 03-08-2018 04:31 PM

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I really don't understand, sorry. Is it a dollar for dollar loss of signings. as an example
(approximate numbers)
The eagles are currently 10M over the cap.

Would they be able to sign Bennett under your idea?
If not do they have to cut their players first then be able to sign him?

If the cap remains, it seems like you simply would end up stopping all trades.

Ruhskins 03-08-2018 04:33 PM

Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 2.0
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1189992]How would that system be structured?
A rookie pool, A "keep our own" pool, and a FA cap?

Or something like a transition tag where a team can match any offer, but then only have a certain amount count against the overall cap?

I doubt the players would go along with either of those concepts because they would claim that the league is prohibiting freedom of movement.

Just curious how you would see it worked out[/quote]

I think a 'keep our own pool' could benefit players, especially the mid-tier players. It would probably make the FA more competitive.

Along with that, players should also be fighting to have a salary cap floor every year, to push cheap teams to spend their cap. Too bad the NFLPA is too busy fighting the league on discipline matters, that only affects a small percentage of teams.

Ruhskins 03-08-2018 04:38 PM

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[quote=Giantone;1189994]That is exactly what it is meant to do,seems only the Patriots have figured it out.The NFL wants parity through out the league.[/quote]

The Patriots have an elite QB that gets paid as though he was a below average QB (Brady's 2017 salary ranked 18th among starting QBs). Not to discount what Belichick and Brady have done for that team, but I'm sure not having to pay Brady a lot helps.

CRedskinsRule 03-08-2018 06:31 PM

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Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano

Titans announce they're releasing RB DeMarco Murray


Anyone interested?

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-08-2018 06:41 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1190000]Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano

Titans announce they're releasing RB DeMarco Murray


Anyone interested?[/quote]

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IWHIWVWlAs[/url]

MTK 03-08-2018 07:21 PM

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Just say no to 30 year old RBs

skinsfaninok 03-08-2018 08:44 PM

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[quote=MTK;1190004]Just say no to 30 year old RBs[/quote]

I'd take him for cheap very cheap

mooby 03-08-2018 08:45 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190008]I'd take him for cheap very cheap[/quote]

That's exactly what he'll sign for at this stage in his career!

Dan73 03-08-2018 09:29 PM

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Talib to the Rams for a 5th rounder.

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skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 08:57 AM

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Rams now have 2 knuckleheads at CB lol. good luck sean

GridIron26 03-09-2018 09:09 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1190022]Rams now have 2 knuckleheads at CB lol. good luck sean[/QUOTE]I think you underestimate Wade Phillips, he is really good at utilizing players to their strengths.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 09:25 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1190023]I think you underestimate Wade Phillips, he is really good at utilizing players to their strengths.[/quote]

Yes he is but man that's a tough job lol

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 09:26 AM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/09/on-brees-talks-with-saints-is-no-news-bad-news/]On Brees talks with Saints, is no news bad news? – ProFootballTalk[/url]

This may get interesting, can the Saints pay Brees 30M a year? Would Brees take a home town discount deal?

Giantone 03-09-2018 10:28 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190027][url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/09/on-brees-talks-with-saints-is-no-news-bad-news/]On Brees talks with Saints, is no news bad news? – ProFootballTalk[/url]

This may get interesting, can the Saints pay Brees 30M a year? Would Brees take a home town discount deal?[/quote]
Yes, he doesn't want to finish his career anywhere but with the Saints.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 11:02 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1190031]Yes, he doesn't want to finish his career anywhere but with the Saints.[/quote]

I find it odd they haven't gave him a deal yet tho.

CRedskinsRule 03-09-2018 11:05 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1190031]Yes, he doesn't want to finish his career anywhere but with the Saints.[/quote]

He would take a bit of a discount, but I bet if the vikings offered him 3/91 he would take it. (I think they would be better off doing that and seeing how Bridgewater heals)

Ruhskins 03-09-2018 11:13 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1190036]He would take a bit of a discount, but I bet if the vikings offered him 3/91 he would take it. (I think they would be better off doing that and seeing how Bridgewater heals)[/quote]

Vikes would be automatic SB contenders with Brees.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 11:25 AM

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[quote=Giantone;1190031]Yes, he doesn't want to finish his career anywhere but with the Saints.[/quote]

Money talks

Ruhskins 03-09-2018 11:46 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190038]Money talks[/quote]

That and being able to win a SB. I think Minnesota is a more complete team than New Orleans.

MTK 03-09-2018 12:07 PM

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Brees isn’t going anywhere, he’s a fixture in the community down there and has young kids. He’s a Saint for life.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 01:15 PM

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/09/richard-sherman-seahawks-said-they-want-me-back-at-the-right-price/]Richard Sherman: Seahawks said they want me back (at the right price) – ProFootballTalk[/url]

Defensewins 03-09-2018 01:24 PM

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Sounds like Richard Sherman does not want to play anywhere else.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 03:02 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1190047]Sounds like Richard Sherman does not want to play anywhere else.[/quote]

I bet he takes a cheaper deal, he did say he loves Sea

CRedskinsRule 03-09-2018 03:05 PM

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[quote=MTK;1190040]Brees isn’t going anywhere, he’s a fixture in the community down there and has young kids. He’s a Saint for life.[/quote]

This Vikings fan asks he reconsiders (fairly funny)
[url]https://deadspin.com/come-to-minnesota-drew-brees-1823644974[/url]

Giantone 03-09-2018 03:21 PM

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Sorry but I think all of you are a little jaded. Brees is a Saint for life and he will stay for less ...Ah LA Brady

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 03:48 PM

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Buccaneers’ WR Mike Evans agreed to a 5-year, $82.5 million extension that includes $55 million guaranteed, per sources.

Evans now under contract through 2023 season.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-09-2018 04:24 PM

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Jarvis Landry to the Browns

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 04:28 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1190068]Jarvis Landry to the Browns[/quote]

damn i really wanted him but knew it would cost too much

Defensewins 03-09-2018 04:34 PM

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NFL network "experts" are saying Jarvis Landry is a slot WR. He is not an outside #1 type WR.
Looks like Cleveland might finally trying to not be a cheap team. We will see.

skinsfaninok 03-09-2018 04:35 PM

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[quote=Defensewins;1190070]NFL network "experts" are saying Jarvis Landry is a slot WR. He is not an outside #1 type WR.
Looks like Cleveland might finally trying to not be a cheap team. We will see.[/quote]

He'll catch a ton of balls from Mayfield next yr

Defensewins 03-09-2018 04:35 PM

Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 2.0
 
Eagles trade WR Torrey Smith to Carolina for CB Daryl Worley.
I like Torrey Smith.

Ruhskins 03-09-2018 04:36 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1190068]Jarvis Landry to the Browns[/quote]


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Browns trading two draft picks to Dolphins for WR Jarvis Landry, sources tell ESPN.

Damn, two picks.

sevier2 03-09-2018 05:06 PM

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Browns definitely have the talent to succeed.

I believe locker room chemistry plays a HUGE roll in a teams success but there's no doubt they've got the athletic abilities to put up some numbers.

They might not be the "LOL Browns" for much longer.

Giantone 03-09-2018 05:14 PM

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1190068]Jarvis Landry to the Browns[/quote]


This with Barkley and a QB at # 4 ,the Browns just made the playoffs.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-09-2018 06:02 PM

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Browns got Tyrod Taylor, and still have #1 and #4, they better not mess this up

Dan73 03-09-2018 06:34 PM

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1190079]Browns got Tyrod Taylor, and still have #1 and #4, they better not mess this up[/QUOTE]They draft a qb and a running back they are starting off good.

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CRedskinsRule 03-09-2018 06:47 PM

Re: Around the NFL Off season thread 2.0
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1190055]Sorry but I think all of you are a little jaded. Brees is a Saint for life and he will stay for less ...Ah[B] LA Brady[/B][/QUOTE]

BRADY IS GOING TO LA ??????????????

j/k

skinsfan69 03-09-2018 07:06 PM

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Why would you give up a 3rd rounder for Taylor? There are free agent QB's available that are better than him.

Giantone 03-09-2018 07:51 PM

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[quote=Dan73;1190080]They draft a qb and a running back they are starting off good.

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They draft a QB now the're nuts! You take barkley and nelson #1 and #4


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