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When he was asked about getting together with his receivers in the O/S

"I think that stuff is great for instagram followers but we are limited to what we can do right now and would like to have coaches there. "

haha I like how he has nothing to do with social media.

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Did you guys notice Doug was the man introducing AS? And his comments
"we are not looking back, we are looking into the future"
"Dan does nothing but listen to us"

I like DW

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190834]btw His wife is smokin[/quote]

She's a former Raiders' cheerleader apparently.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190887]Did you guys notice Doug was the man introducing AS? And his comments
"we are not looking back, we are looking into the future"
"Dan does nothing but listen to us"

I like DW[/quote]

I may be wrong, but I think DW is our Ozzie Newsome. I wonder how much input he had into the past drafts.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1190893]I may be wrong, but I think DW is our Ozzie Newsome. I wonder how much input he had into the past drafts.[/quote]

I would assume that he is basically the "GM" of the team at this point.

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Watching tape on AS, the game against the jets he was absolutely brilliant. The long run he had (70 yards almost) shows he can still do it all. Man I can't wait until Sept.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190909]Watching tape on AS, the game against the jets he was absolutely brilliant. The long run he had (70 yards almost) shows he can still do it all. Man I can't wait until Sept.[/quote]

It looks like he takes care of himself too. Maybe he can push some guys.

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He carries boulders underwater, he’s pure beast

[url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/17443/underwater-training-in-hawaii-was-part-of-alex-smiths-vacation-routine[/url]

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[quote=MTK;1190936]He carries boulders underwater, he’s pure beast

[url=http://www.espncricinfo.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/17443/underwater-training-in-hawaii-was-part-of-alex-smiths-vacation-routine]Underwater training in Hawaii was part of Alex Smith's vacation routine - Kansas City Chiefs Blog- ESPNcricinfo[/url][/quote]

Damn I got a little hot and bothered

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It doesn't seem like AS is a short term answer, Doug mentioned him playing 5 years here

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1190946]It doesn't seem like AS is a short term answer, Doug mentioned him playing 5 years here[/quote]

Yeah, the 'skins are really rolling out the red carpet for Alex Smith. Doug talking about wanting Alex here for 5 years. As good of shape that Alex is in, he probably can play to 40 easily. If he's having success in Washington, I'll be all for that. Heck, let him play until he's 45, lol!

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I say at least 3-4 years, 5 is certainly possible. So yeah he’s not being looked at as a short term answer.

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[IMG]https://m.popkey.co/9a4a6c/d0JbR.gif[/IMG]

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Just listened to his press conference. The guy is the ultimate professional.

Reading about him, he is a guys guy. I have a feeling he will be a great locker room guy.

He answered every question perfectly without coming of like a political douche bag. I was/ am a kirk fan but Alex and kirk are night and day.

I am loving this trade and ext.

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really? i always thought cousins was the ultimate pro also.

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Kirk was a little more PC I thought, Alex seems a little more forthcoming. Could also be the difference of being with a team that truly wants you.

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I’m still left wondering what if. What if Snyder had picked Shannahan staying instead of RG3, and the Shannahans, along with Sean McVay would have built a system around Cousins. Wonder where we’d be today.

We learned, as time passed on, Shannahan wasn’t the problem, RG3 was. Cousins being who he is today proved Shannahan was right all along.


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[quote=MTK;1191019]Kirk was a little more PC I thought, Alex seems a little more forthcoming. Could also be the difference of being with a team that truly wants you.[/quote]

Absolutely! Kirk wasn't bad. Just came off more like a politician and occasional douche bag. And I'm a kirk fan.

The "Ewwwwwiiiieeeeee!" Post game reaction was cringe worthy. Maybe not being a douche but it sounded contrived. The "you like that" was definitely spontaneous.

A great example was Smith being honest about getting together with the receivers in the off-season. He said it looked good on Instagram but didn't really matter all that much for the team.

I cannot imagine Kirk saying something like that.

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Alex Smith looks the part, and he said it best himself, it's not what he says, they have to go do it. Right.

I do like that he seems genuine. He and Gruden have both said things about being excited to work on the offense together, sounds like Jay is gonna take advantage of a smart veteran QB and have him involved.

He wants to win a championship, he thinks jays offense looked fun, everybody wants everybody to be here. Let's see what they can do.

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ALex wants to win a SB, he is hungry for it. I like that in my QB.

He has said a few times "The ultimate goal is win a SB" "I know that is what my legacy will be based on" He knows hes 33, time is ticking

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I was thinking today this might be a new golden age for Redskins QBs, we’re pretty lucky to go from Cousins to Smith.

We’re probably looking at a good 6-7 year stretch of highly productive QB play, just need to start making it count in the win column.

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[quote=MTK;1191049]I was thinking today this might be a new golden age for Redskins QBs, we’re pretty lucky to go from Cousins to Smith.

We’re probably looking at a good 6-7 year stretch of highly productive QB play, just need to start making it count in the win column.[/quote]

If you count RG3 we have had 4 great QB seasons in the past 6 years. now with AS we should have 3 for sure at a high level. Need to draft a QB in 2020

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And Rex Grossman...n..nevermind

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John Beck?

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I know everyone is having a Smith lovefest. Really hope it all works out with him. But had the Redskins been patient, or had some vision they could have possibly signed one of the top FA QB's, kept Fuller and the pick, plus maybe saved money on the cap. W/ Smith as our starter, we're probably not better than Philly and possibly Dallas. We're worse at corner and down a 3rd rounder. How does that make us better?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191132]I know everyone is having a Smith lovefest. Really hope it all works out with him. But had the Redskins been patient, or had some vision they could have possibly signed one of the top FA QB's, kept Fuller and the pick, plus maybe saved money on the cap. W/ Smith as our starter, we're probably not better than Philly and possibly Dallas. We're worse at corner and down a 3rd rounder. How does that make us better?[/quote]

I see your point of view although, I fail to see which FA QB (beside Cousins) will be adequate replacement like Smith is? Bradford is probably closest as best QB available but with his injury history, he is not reliable.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191132]I know everyone is having a Smith lovefest. Really hope it all works out with him. But had the Redskins been patient, or had some vision they could have possibly signed one of the top FA QB's, kept Fuller and the pick, plus maybe saved money on the cap. W/ Smith as our starter, we're probably not better than Philly and possibly Dallas. We're worse at corner and down a 3rd rounder. How does that make us better?[/quote]

If we sign DRC or Scandrick we will be fine, both of those guys are quality CB's. They wanted Alex right after the season ended, Doug said it in his presser. Fuller was a good player but Smith is a must have. I still don't understand why a 3rd CB would be more valuable than a top 12 QB?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1191132]I know everyone is having a Smith lovefest. Really hope it all works out with him. But had the Redskins been patient, or had some vision they could have possibly signed one of the top FA QB's, kept Fuller and the pick, plus maybe saved money on the cap. W/ Smith as our starter, we're probably not better than Philly and possibly Dallas. We're worse at corner and down a 3rd rounder. How does that make us better?[/quote]

In the past 5years, Cousins has had 52 interceptions and 15 fumbles, Alex Smith has had 33 and 9, or about 100 points lost, [URL="https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stat-analysis/2003/how-many-points-turnover-worth"]What's a turnover worth[/URL].

Believing that those splits will continue (at least for Alex Smith since we actually have more years to support that)that difference alone will make up for losing Fuller, assuming a reasonably able replacement is gotten and that we don't play defense with 10 players from now on.

The pick, yeah that's a cost, but Allen has been pretty good at getting picks back via trade. I think they were really hoping to get the 3rd for Sua, and maybe they still will. That said, next year we should see an extra 3rd or maybe 2.

The only other FA qb we could/should have looked at was Keenum, and he would have saved us only 2M more in salary cap this year than AS. So unless you were going with a true wing and a prayer solution at QB, the salary cap hit was a non issue.

As for being better or worse than Dallas/Philly. Our worst opponent last year was injuries. If we stay healthy, we will certainly be competitive in the division, and if our offense isn't turning over the ball in the redzone we will be better than last year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191143]In the past 5years, Cousins has had 52 interceptions and 15 fumbles, Alex Smith has had 33 and 9, or about 100 points lost, [URL="https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stat-analysis/2003/how-many-points-turnover-worth"]What's a turnover worth[/URL].

[B]Believing that those splits will continue (at least for Alex Smith since we actually have more years to support that)that difference alone will make up for losing Fuller, assuming a reasonably able replacement is gotten and that we don't play defense with 10 players from now on. [/B]

The pick, yeah that's a cost, but Allen has been pretty good at getting picks back via trade. I think they were really hoping to get the 3rd for Sua, and maybe they still will. That said, next year we should see an extra 3rd or maybe 2.

The only other FA qb we could/should have looked at was Keenum, and he would have saved us only 2M more in salary cap this year than AS. So unless you were going with a true wing and a prayer solution at QB, the salary cap hit was a non issue.

As for being better or worse than Dallas/Philly. Our worst opponent last year was injuries. If we stay healthy, we will certainly be competitive in the division, and if our offense isn't turning over the ball in the redzone we will be better than last year.[/quote]


Kirk was also top 5 in INT's on 3rd downs and 4th qtr INT's. Those are the most crucial times to have a TO. Alex is a smarter player with the ball and that is very obvious. Plus Smith is great in the RZ for his career, another thing Kirk was not great at.

Smith had 25 Td's to 0 Ints in the RZ this year alone.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1191140]If we sign DRC or Scandrick we will be fine, both of those guys are quality CB's. They wanted Alex right after the season ended, Doug said it in his presser. Fuller was a good player but Smith is a must have. I still don't understand why a 3rd CB would be more valuable than a top 12 QB?[/quote]

Scandrick was never quite the same after his ACL/MCL tear a couple of years ago. He has lost a step. He fractured two vertebrae in his back last season, oddly against Washington, and was placed on IR. So he has not played any snaps since that happened. Something to keep in mind......

He is a one-trick-pony, good slot cover, but since his ACL surgery, he did not matchup as well with the outside guys.

He is a guy you want in your locker room though. Never heard anything but great things on his leadership and how good of a teammate he is.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1191147]Scandrick was never quite the same after his ACL/MCL tear a couple of years ago. He has lost a step. He fractured two vertebrae in his back last season, oddly against Washington, and was placed on IR. So he has not played any snaps since that happened. Something to keep in mind......

He is a one-trick-pony, good slot cover, but since his ACL surgery, he did not matchup as well with the outside guys.

[B]He is a guy you want in your locker room though. Never heard anything but great things on his leadership and how good of a teammate he is.[/quote][/B]

which is what this team needs, true LEADERS and mentors.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1191147]Scandrick was never quite the same after his ACL/MCL tear a couple of years ago. He has lost a step. He fractured two vertebrae in his back last season, oddly against Washington, and was placed on IR. So he has not played any snaps since that happened. Something to keep in mind......

He is a one-trick-pony, good slot cover, but since his ACL surgery, he did not matchup as well with the outside guys.

He is a guy you want in your locker room though. Never heard anything but great things on his leadership and how good of a teammate he is.[/quote]

Well, we really want to fill a slot CB spot, so if he can cover them good, maybe he actually would work out. Still I wouldn't be a fan of the move (unless he gives a game winning int against the cowboys :) )

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Are we really still nitpicking the Smith move? We basically got the best QB available outside of Brees (and he was never truly available) at a pretty good price too.

I don’t want to hear about someone like Keenum being a better option, he had one good year playing on an absolutely loaded team. The Broncos didn’t exactly make a huge commitment to him with only a 2 year deal, they could definitely still end up drafting someone.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1191143]In the past 5years, Cousins has had 52 interceptions and 15 fumbles, Alex Smith has had 33 and 9, or about 100 points lost, [URL="https://www.footballoutsiders.com/index.php?q=stat-analysis/2003/how-many-points-turnover-worth"]What's a turnover worth[/URL].

Believing that those splits will continue (at least for Alex Smith since we actually have more years to support that)that difference alone will make up for losing Fuller, assuming a reasonably able replacement is gotten and that we don't play defense with 10 players from now on.

The pick, yeah that's a cost, but Allen has been pretty good at getting picks back via trade. I think they were really hoping to get the 3rd for Sua, and maybe they still will. That said, next year we should see an extra 3rd or maybe 2.

The only other FA qb we could/should have looked at was Keenum, and he would have saved us only 2M more in salary cap this year than AS. So unless you were going with a true wing and a prayer solution at QB, the salary cap hit was a non issue.

As for being better or worse than Dallas/Philly. Our worst opponent last year was injuries. If we stay healthy, we will certainly be competitive in the division, and if our offense isn't turning over the ball in the redzone we will be better than last year.[/quote]

Philly was better in week one when we were healthy. But all good valid points, although I probably would only judge Cousins numbers from the last 3 years he started. I'm hoping Smith will be better in the red zone that Cousins was.

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[quote=MTK;1191150]Are we really still nitpicking the Smith move? We basically got the best QB available outside of Brees (and he was never truly available) at a pretty good price too.

I don’t want to hear about someone like Keenum being a better option, he had one good year playing on an absolutely loaded team. The Broncos didn’t exactly make a huge commitment to him with only a 2 year deal, they could definitely still end up drafting someone.[/quote]

Well this is a Alex Smith thread. :-)

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And moving forward

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[QUOTE=MTK;1191154]And moving forward[/QUOTE]I agree that in the moment there should be no question that this is the surest move they could have made to have a top 15 QB on the roster.

Keenum was the second veteran option, and would be betting on a guy with one good season. Maybe you pair him with a midround project, but what are the chances that duo would bring anything but more mediocrity?

If we wanted to draft any of the top 4 QBs we'd be in a ridiculous bidding war right now to trade up. A move that would likely cripple us for years all over again.

In the end though, AS will always be bench marked against Cousins, Keenum, and the rookies this year, if any of them out play him, everyone will in retrospect say it was the wrong move.

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[quote=WillH;1191158]I agree that in the moment there should be no question that this is the surest move they could have made to have a top 15 QB on the roster.

Keenum was the second veteran option, and would be betting on a guy with one good season. Maybe you pair him with a midround project, but what are the chances that duo would bring anything but more mediocrity?

If we wanted to draft any of the top 4 QBs we'd be in a ridiculous bidding war right now to trade up. A move that would likely cripple us for years all over again.

In the end though, AS will always be bench marked against Cousins, Keenum, and the rookies this year, if any of them out play him, everyone will in retrospect say it was the wrong move.

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I think regardless, it was the only move the 'skins could've made other than to have paid Cousins twice as much as he would have taken with the Vikings - and then would've crippled any chances of filling out the rest of the roster.

In the end, I think Smith can easily play until he's 40.

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[quote=metalskins;1191162]I think regardless, it was the only move the 'skins could've made other than to have paid Cousins twice as much as he would have taken with the Vikings - and then would've crippled any chances of filling out the rest of the roster.

In the end, I think Smith can easily play until he's 40.[/quote]

Agreed. No sense complaining how the front office screwed up in the past. We have a QB that at the least is just as good as KC and at most is better than KC and the added bonus he wants to be a Redskin.

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I wish SS were around to clarify the "Don't answer your phone" text from Bruce Allen.
[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/redskins/dont-answer-your-phone-inside-the-trade-that-brought-alex-smith-to-the-redskins/2018/03/16/0340c74a-2951-11e8-874b-d517e912f125_story.html?utm_term=.deb92dc044f9[/url]

It seems weird though that BA didn't just call Doug Williams with the news, and/or that DW wasn't able to be told even through a text.