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Jay Gruden is like Tecmo Bowl. If he designs an offense, and it works off the bat, its beautiful. If the gameplan doesn't work, no timely adjustments are made. This week, he nailed it.

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Way had a nice day booting it, thought he deserved some props

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I know I´m by far in the minority here but I´d still prefer 2-14 over the POS wearing #26 gaining another yard.

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This is concerning, from twitter:

Just in: Trent Williams will undergo a very minor procedure tomorrow and is expected to be back for the #MNF game in New Orleans after the bye week. I am told it’s a very minor surgery and nothing to be overly concerned about. #Redskins

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[quote=Schneed10;1201124]Damn, there’s also a ton of harshness towards Kerrigan. He drew two blatant holding calls on what would have both definitely been sacks. With Doctson I get it but Kerrigan played well. It’s like some of you guys think sacks are the only way rush players contribute.[/quote]

Agreed. I can be one to expect more from RK than what he delivers, but I think he brought a fair lot of pressure in this game, on top of the holding calls he drew.
He's not very efficient in the run game but I guess it's not what is expected of him.

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[quote=WillH;1201095]BTW.... Oline looked good. [B]There were a lot people worrying over the injuries and lack of depth. [/B]

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]

I was.
This a massive positive from yesterday's game IMO. Obviously have to watch again, but Bergstrom seems to have had a very decent game. We know Nsekhe is a very good back up.

The line with 2 starters out did a good job. Hats off to them !

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[QUOTE=TheGuyFromOverThere;1201139]I know I´m by far in the minority here but I´d still prefer 2-14 over the POS wearing #26 gaining another yard.[/QUOTE]



Again, nothing can change what he did. Whether he plays good or bad football does not make people forget. It probably makes them remember. So dont let him ruin your football season. HTTR.

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[quote=punch it in;1201144]Again, nothing can change what he did. Whether he plays good or bad football does not make people forget. It probably makes them remember. So dont let him ruin your football season. HTTR.[/quote]

I know. But I can´t enjoy watching him after bringing my lil one to bed.

Anyway, it´s actually not ruining my season that much. I watch the redzone channel and just enjoy the games without more emotional involvement than wanting to see good football and see my fantasy players perform well.

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[QUOTE=TheGuyFromOverThere;1201145]I know. But I can´t enjoy watching him after bringing my lil one to bed.



Anyway, it´s actually not ruining my season that much. I watch the redzone channel and just enjoy the games without more emotional involvement than wanting to see good football and see my fantasy players perform well.[/QUOTE]



I hear you. I wouldn’t want him on my fantasy team. Lol. Im a dad too. What he did makes me sick. I just keep in mind that his performance on the field and his past are unrelated. Ill let God (whatever that is) take care of him.

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I cannot believe how up and down I have been and it is only week three. Wtf? Im gonna need meds for this season. Let’s see if we can actually come out of the bye focused. We seem to have a bad habit of being flat after halftime/ bye weeks. Maybe J can work on his motivational speaking during the break.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1201140]This is concerning, from twitter:

Just in: Trent Williams will undergo a very minor procedure tomorrow and is expected to be back for the #MNF game in New Orleans after the bye week. I am told it’s a very minor surgery and nothing to be overly concerned about. #Redskins[/quote]

Yeah...there had been talk something wasn’t right. Good to know not major.

Hopefully this won’t linger

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Probably just a clean up scope to take care of some loose cartilage, as Keim said not overly concerning.

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[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;1201139]I know I´m by far in the minority here but I´d still prefer 2-14 over the POS wearing #26 gaining another yard.[/quote]

Nobody cares.

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[quote=MTK;1201151]Probably just a clean up scope to take care of some loose cartilage, as Keim said not overly concerning.[/quote]

I heard coming into work...that the thinking is there is a possibility Trent may not be ready for the Saints.

That would be concerning imo.

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Also, heard from the same beat guy who had watched the film....


The Packers dedicated a nickel corner to Chris Thompson most of the day...certainly why he was quiet...but that opened up plays for Crowder and Reed. CT's impact is huge

The guy also said Gruden called the second half like he had an elite Defense...extremely conservative which was gutsy because you are playing an elite QB.

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I think it's important that we get it right regarding #91. He's one of our best players and I don't want to see him disrespected on here.

Watch this. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OK3IgwknNs[/url]

Please jump to the following times:

2:03 - pressure on Rodgers
5:41 - pressure on Rodgers around the edge, Rodgers being Rodgers escapes
8:13 - pancakes his guy in one second, but Rodgers gets rid of it on a 3 step drop
8:21 - busts through and draws a blatant hold

And not pictured here was at least one other blatant holding call where he destroyed the tackle off the ball and all the tackle could do was clothesline him around the neck.

When you guys watch football, don't just watch the results of the play. Don't just follow the ball with your eyes. Watch the trench play, see who's winning and gaining leverage. It's a better indicator of how the game will go overall.

When PFF puts out their evaluation of Kerrigan in this game you'll see he got plenty of pressures.

I thought we were a smarter fan base than this. I'm glad to see at least some of you on here still are. Kerrigan not only didn't play poorly, he played well.

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[quote=Chico23231;1201153]I heard coming into work...that the thinking is there is a possibility Trent may not be ready for the Saints.

That would be concerning imo.[/quote]

It would be concerning if Moses's concussion keeps him out of that game. Nsekhe and Christian is worrisome. I'm not as worried about Nsekhe and Moses.

Saints have no defense.

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Saints Defense was a one hit wonder last yr, they are back to playing old saints ball.. Trent will be fine for that game

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[quote=Schneed10;1201156]It would be concerning if Moses's concussion keeps him out of that game. Nsekhe and Christian is worrisome. I'm not as worried about Nsekhe and Moses.

Saints have no defense.[/quote]

Nsekhe is much better from the left side than the right...Im just repeating what Craig Hoffman was saying this morning...that if Trent did have to miss the game, you can expect better play from Nsekhe bc its him more natural position.


When it comes to Ryan K, never worried about that guy. He's proven and will get stronger as the season goes on. Now Preston Smith, he needs to step up.

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The Skins played an outstanding game against the Packers! Just about everything I hoped for happened. The way they came back after the loss to the Colts impressed me greatly. HTTR!

I hope that was enough to protect me from Matty as I launch into a mild criticism of our roster. Still, you never know when Schneed might strike, so I know I'm vulnerable.

OK, now I want to talk about a worrisome aspect of the team going forward. That is the lack of production by our Edge Rushers. After three games, we have only 1 sack total by the four of them. Improbably, that sack came from Ryan Anderson, Frenchy's adopted son.

Skipping the details, if we hope to make the post season this year, then somehow, someway we must find an effective pass rusher on the edge as soon as possible. We've hit the jackpot with our interior pass rushers, IMHO. but we need a better outside rush to reach the next level of NFL defenses.

If the team's executives are telling Jay Gruden that he must win this season to keep his job, then they have a moral obligation to help him find the players he needs to do it. And they need to get started by finding a productive Edge Rusher right now. A trade should not be ruled out and it may even turn out to be the preferred way to go. Meanwhile, I'd give tryouts to every unemployed Edge Rusher who has any chance at all of being able to help plug this hole.

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How about those Red Zone problems???

5 Red zone trips, 3 td's 1 FG, 1 kneel down.

I like that :)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1201160]How about those Red Zone problems???

5 Red zone trips, 3 td's 1 FG, 1 kneel down.

I like that :)[/quote]

Playing against a team like GB that's the type of RZ production you need.

Safe to say that Smith is much better in the RZ than that other guy was.

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[quote=MTK;1201161]Playing against a team like GB that's the type of RZ production you need.

Safe to say that Smith is much better in the RZ than [B]that other guy[/B] was.[/quote]

:laughing- You mean Whatshisname?

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One more random thought: Isn't it about time we started giving props to Chase Roullier? He is becoming one helluva good Center, IMHO.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201159]The Skins played an outstanding game against the Packers! Just about everything I hoped for happened. The way they came back after the loss to the Colts impressed me greatly. HTTR!

I hope that was enough to protect me from Matty as I launch into a mild criticism of our roster. Still, you never know when Schneed might strike, so I know I'm vulnerable.

OK, now I want to talk about a worrisome aspect of the team going forward. That is the lack of production by our Edge Rushers. After three games, we have only 1 sack total by the four of them. Improbably, that sack came from Ryan Anderson, Frenchy's adopted son.

Skipping the details, if we hope to make the post season this year, then somehow, someway we must find an effective pass rusher on the edge as soon as possible. We've hit the jackpot with our interior pass rushers, IMHO. but we need a better outside rush to reach the next level of NFL defenses.

If the team's executives are telling Jay Gruden that he must win this season to keep his job, then they have a moral obligation to help him find the players he needs to do it. And they need to get started by finding a productive Edge Rusher right now. A trade should not be ruled out and it may even turn out to be the preferred way to go. Meanwhile, I'd give tryouts to every unemployed Edge Rusher who has any chance at all of being able to help plug this hole.[/quote]

I think it's more we need OLB that can cover out of the backfield. Our front 4 seem to be devastating the lines at this point, but all 3 qb's have found success dumping it to the outlet. With the Saints and Kamara on tap, that could be devastating.

One play I remember from yesterday was the announcers talking about how RK needed to be released to get Rodgers, and almost on queue, the D tried that. The result was Rodgers throwing a lob to the release back for a first down.

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This may be a stretch but after film analysis on the Viks game, that may have been the worst game Kirk has had in a long long time. Yikes. Anyway moving on from KC, yes yesterday was much better in the rz, that laser Alex threw to Crowder was sick

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201163]One more random thought: Isn't it about time we started giving props to Chase Roullier? He is becoming one helluva good Center, IMHO.[/quote]

Your edge rushing post annoyed me enough as it was. And now this. Roullier played Guard yesterday.

:doh:

I think your point still stands that he has become a valuable piece but it's just funny how wrong you are so often.

Kerrigan has been very effective in all three games this year (check the pressures on PFF). Preston Smith definitely needs to step it up though. He has a way of being streaky, hopefully he goes on a hot streak soon.

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Couple stats from Espn team offense/defense

4th best rushing offense yards per game 137.7

Passing yards and points per game are just average.

Defense:

2nd best yards per game 278 and 2nd best 14.7 points per game

8th best rushing yards allowed per game at 90.7 yards per game. 5th best passing yards per game: 187.3 yards per game.


Run the Ball folks, run the effing ball

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201163]One more random thought: Isn't it about time we started giving props to Chase Roullier? He is becoming one helluva good Center, IMHO.[/quote]

Played LG yesterday but yes hes been good

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[quote=Schneed10;1201166]Your edge rushing post annoyed me enough as it was. And now this. Roullier played Guard yesterday.

:doh:

I think your point still stands that he has become a valuable piece but it's just funny how wrong you are so often.

Kerrigan has been very effective in all three games this year (check the pressures on PFF). Preston Smith definitely needs to step it up though. He has a way of being streaky, hopefully he goes on a hot streak soon.[/quote]

Preston Smith isn't streaky. The only times he's produced were against backups. I may be wrong about this, too, but that is my impression of him. I think Smith is a flat out bust.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201163]One more random thought: Isn't it about time we started giving props to Chase Roullier? He is becoming one helluva good Center, IMHO.[/quote]

didn't he play guard all day?

but Yes, he deserves props.

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[quote=Chico23231;1201167]Couple stats from Espn team offense/defense

4th best rushing offense yards per game 137.7

Passing yards and points per game are just average.

Defense:

2nd best yards per game 278 and 2nd best 14.7 points per game

8th best rushing yards allowed per game at 90.7 yards per game. 5th best passing yards per game: 187.3 yards per game.


Run the Ball folks, run the effing ball[/quote]

Pshhh ESPN Stats... JK

Yeah I love the new run heavy system! It's old school football and if we can keep it up watch out.

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One aspect about the pass rush...the Dline has been extremely good which allows our secondary to play how they want/how they need meaning....doubling, aggressive zone, and overall team coverage.

So the effect of not needing to bring a lot of folks to get pressure is really helping overall coverage in the secondary. Don't have to play man all over the field which allows for way more risk.

Im not about that zero blitz life where its all or nothing...

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[quote=Chico23231;1201167]Couple stats from Espn team offense/defense

4th best rushing offense yards per game 137.7

Passing yards and points per game are just average.

Defense:

2nd best yards per game 278 and 2nd best 14.7 points per game

8th best rushing yards allowed per game at 90.7 yards per game. 5th best passing yards per game: 187.3 yards per game.


[B]Run the Ball folks, run the effing ball[/quote]

[/B]Everything is good when we can. But there will be times where we can't, like against Indy. That is when we're going to have to be more balanced.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201169]Preston Smith isn't streaky. The only times he's produced were against backups. I may be wrong about this, too, but that is my impression of him. I think Smith is a flat out bust.[/quote]

PS is the 2nd option at Edge, he isn't as good as Ryan. Although RK has been off but he played better yesterday.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1201168]Played LG yesterday but yes hes been good[/quote]

Yeah, that makes me look stupid. I was just pondering his improvement since he's been here, not yesterday's game in particular. I assume (but I may be wrong about this too) that he'll play at Center moving forward.

p.s. Is my being old and drunk an excuse?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201175]Yeah, that makes me look stupid. I was just pondering his improvement since he's been here, not yesterday's game in particular. I assume (but I may be wrong about this too) that he'll play at Center moving forward.[/quote]

He's been a good lineman man, u don't look stupid. I like him a lot.

as for RK and PS.

RK had 3 hurries 0 sacks

PS 1 Hit on QB, 3 hurries and 0 sacks.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1201169]Preston Smith isn't streaky. The only times he's produced were against backups. I may be wrong about this, too, but that is my impression of him. [B]I think Smith is a flat out bust[/B].[/quote]

Yup, you're wrong

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Overall people need to slow their roll with Smith and Kerrigan. The sacks will come, even though it's not a true indicator of how they're playing but people are getting too hung up on stats.

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[quote=MTK;1201178]Overall people need to slow their roll with Smith and Kerrigan. The sacks will come, even though it's not a true indicator of how they're playing but people are getting too hung up on stats.[/quote]

Both played better yesterday and yes sacks can be a misleading stat line. Our D is in the top 5 right now, shouldn't be much to complain about.