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[QUOTE=NY_Skinsfan]Don't worry Matty, if anything happens I won't pull a CRT3 and demand an avator change.... :)

But seriously.....look at the avator. It's almost like he's saying, "What the f#ck am I doing here?"[/QUOTE]

Or "don't shoot"!

Seriously, we can't afford to cut him unless this kind of thing voids some part of his contract. 6 mil cap hit. Maybe he should be forced to ride the bench for the season. He can't stand that. Someone needs to show this kid that he has crossed the line, for his own good. Of course, it may be the police, not he Skins that end up doing it.

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If there is a warrant, that mean's there's probable cause - which means there's a good chance he committed the crime.

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oh well what's done is done. damn him and the draft pick we wasted on him. i wouldn't even consider releasing a player of his caliber, i would trade him.

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I figured it would be worth seeing what's going on with a similar situation in Indy with Mike Doss, I'm not holding my breath for an apology from Taylor if and when he ever shows up in DC:

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2074512[/url]

INDIANAPOLIS, Ind. -- Mike Doss returned to practice Thursday with the Indianapolis Colts and apologized for being arrested last weekend.

The Colts' starting strong safety is facing a felony weapons charge and three misdemeanor charges after Akron, Ohio, police estimated hearing five to six gunshots outside a local restaurant early Sunday.

Doss missed the team's voluntary workout Tuesday to take care of his legal matters and was a no-show Wednesday. When he returned Thursday, Doss wasted no time in making amends.

"First off, I'd like to apologize to the organization, the Indianapolis Colts," he said. "I apologize to my teammates. We don't need this distraction going."

Doss, taken in the second round of the 2003 draft from Ohio State, has 150 career tackles and had three career interceptions over two seasons.

He faces charges of carrying a concealed weapon, inducing panic, obstructing official business and discharging a weapon within the city limits. He also could face discipline by the NFL.

Colts coach Tony Dungy, who has said Doss would be disciplined by the team, said he hoped things would return to normal now.

"It's a difficult time for all of us," Dungy said. "You don't want to see anything happen to any part of your family. I think we have stood behind Mike and will continue to do that."

Doss has not entered a plea but has signed papers that will allow a Summit County grand jury to consider whether there are grounds for the charges. The grand jury is scheduled to meet Friday.

"For my family and for myself, everything will get handled through the judicial system," Doss said. "I will go from there."

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Don't release him, because then he'd hit the open market and get a sweet deal. Trade him somewhere, to the team he'd hate to be on most, so he would be forced to keep the shitty deal he signed as a rookie.

Punish him as much as humanly possible. Send him to a shitty team along with his shitty contract.

I'm holding out hope that he's an innocent bystander in all this. But if he's involved criminally, ship him out.

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If he is arrested for assault (and he's convicted or pleads out), he's definately getting jail time. In fact, if he fired the weapon at people, he could be charged with attempted murder.

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Release him? Hell no, that's crazy.

SC is going to love this story. And it gives him plenty of reasons to bash Taylor. If Taylor is involved he's such an arse.

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I want to be at the home opener so bad so I can boo his ass every chance I get.

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Man, this makes Gibbs look bad too. After he went out and stated he put so much time looking for good character. I mean, even if he isn't guilty in this, his name is already synonymous with negativity. If I were Gibbs, I'd kick his ass to the curb. We can live without him for sure. Of course, there is the possibility that Jerry Jones hired one of the Cowboys to pose as Taylor and do this. We all know all the Cowboy players own guns.

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[QUOTE=manicd]If I were Gibbs, I'd kick his ass to the curb. We can live without him for sure.[/QUOTE]

Two years ago there was no Sean Taylor in the NFL. Of course we can live without him. The game can go on without him just fine. He needs to realize this fact. I'm pretty sure it was the Patriots that won the superbowl last year... and they did it without Sean Taylor.

Until today I thought his antics were just immature and selfish. I thought he would grow out of them. But now he had to go and take it to a new level.

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And you guys said this offseason was going to be boring....man, you all disappoint me! <joking>

This is very bad news for us, but when one door closes another one opens. Our team can move on without Taylor - but we sure could use someone of his caliber in our secondary. I'm hoping all of this is nothing more than a misunderstanding, but I have a feeling it isn't. It's a shame and an embarassment. This kind of behavior is reserved for Dallas Cowboy players, not Washington Redskins players!

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so far i havent heard of the arrest warrent for ST. so lets pray this goes away.

also
firing a weapon in the air is one thing, firing a weapon at an occupied home is a bigger fuckup.

the nfl will suspend him and lets not forget the time he will spend in prison. we actually might be able to get money back if doesnt show up because he is in jail.
i hope he is extradited to a prison in dallas for a little bootylove.

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if the reports on this are true, he's crossed the point of return with the team. There is bound to be legal mumbo jumbo in his contract that if he did do these incredibly asinine things, then his contract could and should be completely null and void if the team choose to do so. This is going to be a somewhat similar stain on the franchise as to what the Ravens went through with Ray Lewis except not as severe since no one was hurt much less killed. I was watching Kellen Winslow Sr talking about how 21 year olds make mistakes in relation to his son's accident, but this past year Taylor has taken moronic behavior to a completely different level all be it by somewhat small doses until this. I know some others have posted and thought about no more "the U" guys and while I understand that not every player from there will be a headache, I frankly don't want to ever have the problem of waiting to find out which ones will be morons. Sean Taylors physical gifts cannot be questioned but despite his strong apparent upbringing, the kid seems to be without a hamster on the wheel upstairs. As infuriated as we fans are about this, I can't even begin to imagine what Gibbs and company are thinking about this and their selection of him last year. And to think we thought the team had it bad with our leading reciever wanting out, no cap room, and players not returning the calls of the head coach.

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I take back everything I've said about ST and the shooting incident. I'm going to reserve judgment until more comes out on his involvement in the shooting.

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Sean Taylor is a badass.
However he's just finished his rookie year, gained a starting job, signed a 7 year deal last season and let the Cowboys beat us at the end of the game last year over Christmas. No reason this guy shouldn't be at mini camp. He thinks he is above the game. I'll take Coach Gibbs and Coach Williams over Taylor any day. The simple fact that Taylor hasn't called Coach Gibbs is totally ridiculous to me. You think I wouldn't call Gibbs back? And he hasn't paid me millions of dollars! I will reserve judgement on this latest shenanigans til it's all sorted out, but honestly it doesn't surprise me. This stuff happens so often to gifted athletes. We can win without Taylor, but I hope we don't have to. He is an incredibly gifted badass but is not perfect. Many times last season he was outta position. Hence the loss to the Cowboys. Get your ass to Redskins Park. Immediately or you'll probably end up on the couch with some dudes watching games on Sundays real soon. Love Taylor, but he needs to talk to Jim Brown asap.

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:frusty:

:banghead:

:doh:

:cussing:

:screama:

:stop:

:madani:

:soapbox:

:drink

:party-smi

:Flush:

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That progression of emoticons is brilliant. More eloquent than words...

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That was hilarious dirtbag!....but there is no emoticon for what I'm feeling now (now who can tell me what line that's from?)

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gotta change my name

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...and thank you Ramseyfan...let's let this blow over. It seems everyone on this site is impetuous and quick to judge.

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The most depressing part of this story is my total lack of surprise when I heard about it, there was an inevitability about something like this happening ever since the end of last season.

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Is it true that guys from Miami refer to it as the U because none of them can actually spell university?

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I'm not suprised either davy.

He's not a Redskin and it remains to be seen if he ever will be a true Redskin.

peace

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]That was hilarious dirtbag!....but there is no emoticon for what I'm feeling now (now who can tell me what line that's from?)[/QUOTE]

sounds like classic comic book guy to me...

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[QUOTE=That Guy]sounds like classic comic book guy to me...[/QUOTE]

Ooh, your powers of deduction are exceptional. I can't allow you to waste them here when there are so many crimes going unsolved at this very moment. Go, go, for the good of the city. ...Worst thread ever! (and yes, that's more classic comic book guy)

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Of course Taylor is innocent until proven guilty, BUT the fact that his name is involved in this just isn't good. I hope and pray it's a mixup or he was an innocent party here, but as we've seen in the past with him, where there's smoke there's usually fire.

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Exactly Matty. He needs to avoid putting himself in these situations. And one way to do that is to be with the team.

I never thought I'd ever say but he should heed the words of a Raven-who knows a thing or two about wrong place at the wrong [URL=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2075502]time[/URL]

"Pick your friends wisely," (Jamal Lewis) said. "Watch every move you make. I never knew that things could be that serious just from knowing somebody or talking to somebody."

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Of course Taylor is innocent until proven guilty, BUT the fact that his name is involved in this just isn't good. I hope and pray it's a mixup or he was an innocent party here, but as we've seen in the past with him, where there's smoke there's usually fire.[/QUOTE]


My thought is if he is innocent then why is he hiding? Nobody know's where this kid is, can't blame Gibbs for not being able to get a hold of him when the cop's can't find him either.

At this point I just have a picture in my head that at some point he's going to be put away for a long time, maybe not this time but it's coming, he's a very foolish individual who is going to winde up just like Carruth.

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There usually is fire where there is smoke Matty, but he hasn't even been arrested or charged with a crime. The circumstances are so shady right now that I think it's premature to comment on the situation other than to say, "It's not good that his name is involved." I can agree with that, but I can't agree with notions that we should crucify him.

If the police had a lot of evidence (i.e. several eyewitness statements) that he had fired the weapon, there would be an arrest warrant. That a warrant hasn't been issued indicates that there isn't such evidence.

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[QUOTE=NY_Skinsfan]Don't worry Matty, if anything happens I won't pull a CRT3 and demand an avator change.... :)

But seriously.....look at the avator. It's almost like he's saying, "What the f#ck am I doing here?"[/QUOTE]
I never demanded a change I just simply asked.

As far as assumming Taylor's innocence or guilt, he just basically has to grow up and be a man instead of a highly paid little kid. Someone will set him straight, could be his father, grandmother, Portis or maybe even Winslow. But this crap has got to end sooner or later. The crap that the Redskins did a extensive backround check is BS. The wrath of the fans on gameday will also take its toll on him, he just has no clue.

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The bottom line is that this guy wasn't where he should have been.
His physical gifts don't make up for his bad attitude and lack of good judgement.

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ummmmmmmmmmmm....Just read this thread, and the Robinson thread...it's a lesson in how talented atheletes get into trouble............

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[QUOTE=offiss]My thought is if he is innocent then why is he hiding? Nobody know's where this kid is, can't blame Gibbs for not being able to get a hold of him when the cop's can't find him either.[/QUOTE]

He's apparently been playing pick-up basketball with a fellow Warpath [URL=http://www.thewarpath.net/showpost.php?p=87091&postcount=1]member[/URL]

Heybigstar! Do your part for the team, bring Taylor to Redskins Park

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[QUOTE=EEich]The bottom line is that this guy wasn't where he should have been.
His physical gifts don't make up for his bad attitude and lack of good judgement.[/QUOTE]

You're almost certainly correct. However, there's a chance it was simply a "wrong place, wrong time" sort of incident. I'm sure just about everyone here have been in shady places with shady characters before. Moreover, many NFL football players come from poor neighborhoods where crime is rampant and "bad peeps" are everywhere; you don't find crime and criminals, they find you.

I don't know where exactly Taylor is from - perhaps he's from a very upscale, low-crime neighborhood. But, I can't say he exercised poor judgment. I don't know where he's from, who (if anyone) he was with, his relationship to the shooter, under what circumstances the shots were fired, or anything really.

All we know is the police want to question him about a shooting. It sounds bad and it could be very bad, but right now, we just don't know squat.

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]You're almost certainly correct. However, there's a chance it was simply a "wrong place, wrong time" sort of incident. I'm sure just about everyone here have been in shady places with shady characters before. Moreover, many NFL football players come from poor neighborhoods where crimes is rampant and "bad peeps" are everywhere; you don't find crime and criminals, they find you. I don't know where exactly Taylor is from - perhaps he's from a very upscale low-crime neighborhood. But, I can't say he exercised poor judgment. I don't know where he's from, who (if anyone) he was with, his relationship to the shooter, under what circumstances the shots were fired, or anything really.

All we know is the police want to question him about a shooting. It sounds bad and it could be very bad, but right now, we just don't know squat.[/QUOTE]

Good points Ramseyfan...thing is you'd think Taylor would know a bit better, what with his dad being a police sheriff

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[QUOTE=TAFKAS]Good points Ramseyfan...thing is you'd think Taylor would know a bit better, what with his dad being a police sheriff[/QUOTE]

No one get me wrong, it is highly possible that Taylor was being a bonehead.
However, I'd hate to blame him for something that he had no significant involvement with.

I can't blame people for wanting to be around the people they grew up with. The very cautious (and some would say intelligent) players (i.e. Arrington) stop going to clubs and hanging out in their old neighborhoods with their old friends once they become famous football players.

Antonio Pierce is from SC LA and he goes back there all the time. I'm sure he's not constantly surrounded by the most upstanding citizens 24-7. Moreover, I'm not sure that I would stop hanging out with old friends in old dive bars etc. if I became a famous football player. If I came from a rough neighborhood or had good (but dumb) friends, I don't think I would simply turn my back on them once I "made it."

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]You're almost certainly correct. However, there's a chance it was simply a "wrong place, wrong time" sort of incident. I'm sure just about everyone here have been in shady places with shady characters before. Moreover, many NFL football players come from poor neighborhoods where crime is rampant and "bad peeps" are everywhere; you don't find crime and criminals, they find you.

I don't know where exactly Taylor is from - perhaps he's from a very upscale, low-crime neighborhood. But, I can't say he exercised poor judgment. I don't know where he's from, who (if anyone) he was with, his relationship to the shooter, under what circumstances the shots were fired, or anything really.

All we know is the police want to question him about a shooting. It sounds bad and it could be very bad, but right now, we just don't know squat.[/QUOTE]

I'm pretty sure the "bad peeps" aren't allowed in the Redskins weight room, which is where he should have been... not in Miami with his friends from The U. If he's in DC working out with his teammates, he's likely not putting himself in the position where he's a person of interest.

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[QUOTE=EEich]I'm pretty sure the "bad peeps" aren't allowed in the Redskins weight room, which is where he should have been... not in Miami with his friends from The U. If he's in DC working out with his teammates, he's likely not putting himself in the position where he's a person of interest.[/QUOTE]




that says it all right there.

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[QUOTE=EEich]If he's in DC working out with his teammates, he's likely not putting himself in the position where he's a person of interest.[/QUOTE]

...unless, of course, one of his teammates is having a birthday party. ;)

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