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Per PFF... this is where they deserve to be picked

Murray top 5 pick
Haskins top 10 pick
Lock late first round
Jones 3rd round

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[quote=Irrefutable;1219055]Per PFF... this is where they deserve to be picked

Murray top 5 pick
Haskins top 10 pick
Lock late first round
Jones 3rd round[/quote]

Translation, Bruce will move up in the first for Jones.

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1219055]Per PFF... this is where they deserve to be picked



Murray top 5 pick

Haskins top 10 pick

Lock late first round

Jones 3rd round[/QUOTE]Nobody knows how college QBs will transition to the NFL.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1219058]Nobody knows how college QBs will transition to the NFL.

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Exactly, for every Tom Brady picked in late rounds there is a Jim Druckenmiller taken in the first. Many GMs and coaches considered great at the draft have picked QBs high that have went bust.

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[QUOTE=Buffalo Bob;1219030]As a UCLA fan who watched lots of their games I don't think Rosen will amount to squat. If he even becomes an average NFL QB on the next time I vacation in upstate New York my girlfriend and I will happily treat your family to a nice dinner of your choice. No risk to you.[/QUOTE]Haha sounds good to me!!

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[QUOTE=Irrefutable;1219055]Per PFF... this is where they deserve to be picked

Murray top 5 pick
Haskins top 10 pick
Lock late first round
Jones 3rd round[/QUOTE]I've talked with Zac Robinson (now the rams QB coach) a bunch on these guys. Pretty much says Murray and Lock are the only guys he thinks can play now. Jones in the right situation, haskins as well. Again just one guys opinion. I would love to draft Kyler at 15 but we know that ain't happening

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I'm shocked Murray is being talked about as a top15 pick. That is just too big of a risk taking him that high. To me he's a mid rounder because of his size, offense he played in and he runs too much.

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1219069]I'm shocked Murray is being talked about as a top15 pick. That is just too big of a risk taking him that high. To me he's a mid rounder because of his size, offense he played in and he runs too much.[/QUOTE]He doesn't get hit when he runs. He is way more of a Russell Wilson than a Bobby Three Sticks.

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The QBs drafted after Haskins and Murray are not first round caliber....so the Skins will have to look for a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.....if I were Doug Williams it would be simple....draft Will Grier in the 2nd round if he's available....if he's not then draft Brett Rypien in the 3rd round...as far as what should happen prior to the draft I don't see the Redskins signing a QB in free agency....they have McCoy and the only way I see them targeting Tyrod Taylor or Teddy Bridgewater would be if they are not serious about bringing back Josh Johnson.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1219070]He doesn't get hit when he runs. He is way more of a Russell Wilson than a Bobby Three Sticks.

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He's 5'8 and had never got under center. He has bust written all over him.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1219074]He's 5'8 and had never got under center. He has bust written all over him.[/quote]

He's more like 5"10 with shoes on lol. But I understand your concern, I'm not a huge fan of drafting him either unless it's at 15. Trading up for him would be a bad idea, we are not a 1 player away type team. There is talk that Oakland/SF/LV whoever they are this season may take him. Apparently Chucky is in love with the guy.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1219072]The QBs drafted after Haskins and Murray are not first round caliber....so the Skins will have to look for a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.....if I were Doug Williams it would be simple....draft Will Grier in the 2nd round if he's available....if he's not then draft Brett Rypien in the 3rd round...as far as what should happen prior to the draft I don't see the Redskins signing a QB in free agency....they have McCoy and the only way I see them targeting Tyrod Taylor or Teddy Bridgewater would be if they are not serious about bringing back Josh Johnson.[/quote]

After the combine and his pro day, Grier could sneak into the late 1st.. He's a good passer than can move around good enough. I'd compare him to a better Case Keenum.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1219074]He's 5'8 and had never got under center. He has bust written all over him.[/quote]

Mayfield was in the same offense and has had to learn how to play under center. Honestly the size thing isn't an issue to me. The NFL game is more QB friendly than ever with college concepts all over and the rules not allowing anyone to even breath on the QB anymore.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1219072][B]The QBs drafted after Haskins and Murray are not first round caliber[/B]....so the Skins will have to look for a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round.....if I were Doug Williams it would be simple....draft Will Grier in the 2nd round if he's available....if he's not then draft Brett Rypien in the 3rd round...as far as what should happen prior to the draft I don't see the Redskins signing a QB in free agency....they have McCoy and the only way I see them targeting Tyrod Taylor or Teddy Bridgewater would be if they are not serious about bringing back Josh Johnson.[/quote]

There will be at least 4 first round QBs. Lock and Jones are legit first rounders.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1219070]He doesn't get hit when he runs. He is way more of a Russell Wilson than a [B]Bobby Three Sticks[/B].

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I swear the way RG III would position himself before contact it was almost like he was trying maximize the damage he could receive, the exact opposite of what he should have been doing.

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I purposely left Foles out of the OP...surprised his name hasn't been brought up.

He may be the best QB available but we could never afford him with the coming contract.

I think he will go to the Jags, but Id watch Miami as well.

In terms of this year draft QB, Lock scares me the most...he has a big arm and nothing else. BUT what scares me more than anything is the decision makers within our organization at that position. I really hope our new OC has a large role in determining who we pick.

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[quote=MTK;1219078]Mayfield was in the same offense and has had to learn how to play under center. Honestly the size thing isn't an issue to me. The NFL game is more QB friendly than ever with college concepts all over and the rules not allowing anyone to even breath on the QB anymore.[/quote]

I agree. The game rules have changed and it protects QB’s and helps the passing game . Murray will be fine.
The way Murray plays reminds me more of a shorter version of Mahomes. His baseball experience, the snap in his throwing motion, seeing the field well and his running through progressions. Athletic but short in stature.
He plays smart.
Those that want to write him off because he is a few inches shorter than ideal have every right to do so.
Darrel Green was doubted going into college because he was short. But he is now in the NFL HOF.

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It doesn't matter who we draft. We still going to be sorry.

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It's hard to believe this will be a playoff team this year. I say ride it out with Colt and JJ. At most, bring in a guy like Fitzpatrick, Taylor, or Siemian to compete.

Lock down your own, like Sherff and Ioannidis with long term deals.

Use the available cap space to bring in a couple top tier free agent O-linemen and a safety.

Draft BPA at 15, trade back once or twice to acquire more picks, and draft the BPA every pick. This team just needs an infusion of good young talent and depth.

Look at making the move for Tua, Herbert, or Fromm next year.

I'll be beside myself if they reach for Murray, or draft any of the top four being discussed this year.

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LOL at the people that think JJ is an NFL qb

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[quote=dmek25;1219159]LOL at the people that think JJ is an NFL qb[/quote]

What's wrong with him as a backup?

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JJ is about as good as Colt, and some here thought he was worthy of replacing Alex before injury....

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[quote=dmek25;1219159]LOL at the people that think JJ is an NFL qb[/quote]

As opposed to Mark Sanchez right?

I'd be fine if we went into the year with Colt as the starter and JJ as the backup. I'd rather do that than reach for one of the 'top' QBs in this year's draft, or waste what little cap space there is on one of the free agent QBs that would amount to no real upgrade. If they pick up a QB they like in the later rounds to develop - fine, but don't waste the top pick this year. There's too many other needs and it's not smart to pass up on a top-tier OL, ILB, Edge Rusher, TE, DB, etc.

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Kyler Murray numbers out of the combine according to PTI Tony Kornheiser:
"official height 5' 10" & 1/8" same height as Russell Wilson.
Hand size 9 1/2"
Bigger hands than Baker Mayfield."

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1219091]It's hard to believe this will be a playoff team this year. I say ride it out with Colt and JJ. At most, bring in a guy like Fitzpatrick, Taylor, or Siemian to compete.

Lock down your own, like Sherff and Ioannidis with long term deals.

Use the available cap space to bring in a couple top tier free agent O-linemen and a safety.

Draft BPA at 15, trade back once or twice to acquire more picks, and draft the BPA every pick. This team just needs an infusion of good young talent and depth.

Look at making the move for Tua, Herbert, or Fromm next year.

I'll be beside myself if they reach for Murray, or draft any of the top four being discussed this year.[/quote]

Agreed.
I'd stay with Colt and JJ. Don't sign anyone. Don't draft anyone unless BPA at 15 is a QB. Don't trade up.

[I][U]Cutting Alex Smith after next season will save 16M[/U][/I]. Then hopefully we're in position to bring in a [I][U]new HC[/U][/I] that will be more than happy to have a pretty high draft pick to use on [B]his[/B] QB of the future, a decent amount of cap space to spend in FA, and a young roster built through the draft the past few years.

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I'd do nothing and draft other contributors to build the team.

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Per espn

Coach Jay Gruden expressed confidence in Colt McCoy as the Redskins' possible starting quarterback.


Yikes. Alex Smith (leg) may never play again, and McCoy is the only other quarterback on the roster. "I could be really ignorant," Gruden said. "I've just seen him throw the ball for five years in the offseason, in training camp. ... I have total confidence. He's got a great knowledge of the system, he's comfortable with the guys we have, he's a great leader, he's a competitor." McCoy started two games after Smith's injury last year only to go out and break his own leg in Week 13. The Redskins aren't expected to be players for Nick Foles. Perhaps they'll draft a quarterback or bring in a Ryan Tannehill type to compete with McCoy for the job. [B]This team is going to stink.[/B]


Bruce Allen folks and Dan Snyder

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Jay has to say that right now, for 2 main reasons...

A. He doesn't want to seem desperate for a QB right before the draft even though the world knows.

2. He's the HC, He has to say these things

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[quote=dmek25;1219159]LOL at the people that think JJ is an NFL qb[/quote]

I would have no trouble letting JJ start this coming season. With Alex Smith's contract and all the holes that need filled a 2-3 win season with JJ at the helm and the first overall pick in 2020 would be just what the doctor ordered.

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[quote=Chico23231;1219225]Per espn

Coach Jay Gruden expressed confidence in Colt McCoy as the Redskins' possible starting quarterback.


Yikes. Alex Smith (leg) may never play again, and McCoy is the only other quarterback on the roster. "I could be really ignorant," Gruden said. "I've just seen him throw the ball for five years in the offseason, in training camp. ... I have total confidence. He's got a great knowledge of the system, he's comfortable with the guys we have, he's a great leader, he's a competitor." McCoy started two games after Smith's injury last year only to go out and break his own leg in Week 13. The Redskins aren't expected to be players for Nick Foles. Perhaps they'll draft a quarterback or bring in a Ryan Tannehill type to compete with McCoy for the job. [B]This team is going to stink.[/B]


Bruce Allen folks and Dan Snyder[/quote]

I know our front office is terrible, but what do you want him to say? Let other teams know exactly what we are going to do? Does any team go out there a be super honest about their plans for free agency or the draft? I'm genuinely curious about this, because fans seem to think we are the only team that gives vague political-like/coach-speak answers.

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[quote=MTK;1219163]What's wrong with him as a backup?[/quote]

Johnson started 2 games and was decent. Then in the third start he was kept in the pocket and was terrible.... 90 yds passing and one interception. The NFL teams will keep him in the pocket next year and totally neutralize him.

3 tds and 4 interceptions in 2018... I would rather have a rookie

[url]https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JohnJo05.htm[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;1219229][B]I know our front office is terrible, but what do you want him to say?[/B] Let other teams know exactly what we are going to do? Does any team go out there a be super honest about their plans for free agency or the draft? I'm genuinely curious about this, because fans seem to think we are the only team that gives vague political-like/coach-speak answers.[/quote]

Pre draft is the time head coaches and front office people lie more than politicians do.

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I wouldn't be opposed to trading our second for Rosen or our first for Rosen and a 2nd/3rd.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1219232]I wouldn't be opposed to trading our second for Rosen or our first for Rosen and a 2nd/3rd.[/quote]

First for Rosen and a second would be a lot more palatable.

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After watching what Jay had to say live on bookface I came away with this certainty: We're going to draft a QB. Highly probable in the first round, but if not in the first, still definitely at some point during the draft.

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[quote=Schneed10;1219234]After watching what Jay had to say live on bookface I came away with this certainty: We're going to draft a QB. Highly probable in the first round, but if not in the first, still definitely at some point during the draft.[/quote]

Doug said "QB is a top priority" for the franchise, last year he said DT/RB was and we took Payne/Guice early.

You can bet that a QB will be taken by this team in the 1st or 2nd rd

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1219235]Doug said "QB is a top priority" for the franchise, last year he said DT/RB was and we took Payne/Guice early.

You can bet that a QB will be taken by this team in the 1st or 2nd rd[/quote]

I can see why this FO and coaching staff would want to do that, but I'm not rooting for that to happen.

I'll still watch every single snap but I'm not hoping for a good season next year. I'm not saying tank it either, but I want the situation to be the best it can be for a new HC to want to come here in 2020. Fair amount of cap space, solid young defense, young talent on offense, all your 2020 draft picks...

Any case, if they draft a QB in the first round this year, he better play lights out because if we're stuck with a bust at QB that'll be just another reason for no good HC to want to come here...

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Todd McShay today said Daniel Jones is a 3rd round prospect. He has a lot of problems.

We betta hope we can get Rosen.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1219238]Todd McShay today said Daniel Jones is a 3rd round prospect. He has a lot of problems.



We betta hope we can get Rosen.[/QUOTE]Apke like reach 2.0.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1219238]Todd McShay today said Daniel Jones is a 3rd round prospect. He has a lot of problems.

We betta hope we can get Rosen.[/QUOTE]I'd b ok with Hollywood at 15, and Grier or Lock at 46. Ben Powers would be awesome too at LG.

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