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DynamiteRave 09-15-2019 04:20 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1230213]213 yards rushed against us folks...at home.[/QUOTE]



It wasn’t really home. Reports from fans there says it was about 60% Boys fans.


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skinsfaninok 09-15-2019 04:20 PM

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i dont even care anymore haven't in a couple years. Until this regime is gone

Ruhskins 09-15-2019 04:21 PM

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[quote=PorkSkins;1230215]We've yet to have a turnover but we're 0-2.[/quote]

Offense has scored 48 points in two games. Defense has allowed 63 points in two games. Again, #FireManusky.

sdskinsfan2001 09-15-2019 04:24 PM

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Look forward to football season and within 2 weeks I already don't give a fuck anymore. Not gonna go spend money to watch this team play anymore. Today is probably only like 1 of 3 games that will be on TV at my place this season. 90ish% of games I have to go out for and spend money. So I'm going to save myself probably around a 1000 bucks.

SFREDSKIN 09-15-2019 04:29 PM

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Players I want to see gone next year (possibly this year)

Norman
Moses
I hate to say it, Kerrigan
AP
DRC

Players that have disappointed so far:

Ionnadis
Collins
Sweat

EARTHQUAKE2689 09-15-2019 04:33 PM

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Said it before, will say it again, we all knew that we werent gonna be great or even good, what good does it do for Haskins to not be starting??

Ruhskins 09-15-2019 04:34 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1230225]Players I want to see gone next year (possibly this year)

Norman
Moses
I hate to say it, Kerrigan
AP
DRC
[B]Trent[/B]

Players that have disappointed so far:

Ionnadis
Collins
Sweat[/quote]

Fixed it for you.

PorkSkins 09-15-2019 04:37 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1230225]Players I want to see gone next year (possibly this year)

Norman
Moses
I hate to say it, Kerrigan
AP
DRC

Players that have disappointed so far:

Ionnadis
Collins
Sweat[/quote]

I agree with your first group of players.

The second list--I agree as well with the exception of Collins. I just sense Collins hasn't been put in position to do anything yet.

The defensive line is getting gashed on the ground or the QB can calmly scratch his gonads, smell his finger and then toss a pass. The defensive backfield has been left hung out to dry. But I will say Norman looked like a clown out there today for the most part.

punch it in 09-15-2019 04:38 PM

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I keep saying u can fire whoever u want, but it will not matter, Because the same jack asses are in charge of replacing them.....

Tedskins 09-15-2019 04:39 PM

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5superbowls3wins 09-15-2019 04:43 PM

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Turned it off at halftime. I have better things to do with a Sunday afternoon. I also got tired of a looking at Redskins stadium with more Cowboys fans in it then the home team. We’ve completely lost home field advantage folks..


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skinsfaninok 09-15-2019 04:53 PM

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Sweat looks like another P SMith, slow off the edge and just avg in run defense

Chief X_Phackter 09-15-2019 05:08 PM

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Refs were pretty bad. Defense was abysmal. Offense was adequate, although Case missed some easy, crucial throws.. Unlike most teams, this team MUST be completely healthy to compete...and that will never be the case.

OnceWeWereKings 09-15-2019 05:11 PM

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Such a terribly coached team. I dont even know how much talent we have because the coaching and game planning is piss poor. I'm not even that upset anymore.

Chico23231 09-15-2019 05:11 PM

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Fuck talking about the coaches...how in gods name does Bruce Allen have a fucking job? His handling of the roster has put us in this position.

DYoungJelly 09-15-2019 05:12 PM

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Keenum and Flowers were the BEST FA signings this year!

They are actually a silver lining.

Cannot believe it though.

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Ruhskins 09-15-2019 05:15 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1230236]Keenum and Flowers were the BEST FA signings this year!

They are actually a silver lining.

Cannot believe it though.

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In 2 games Keenum has 601 passing yards 5TDs 0INTs at 69% completion rate.

SFREDSKIN 09-15-2019 05:18 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1230236]Keenum and Flowers were the BEST FA signings this year!

They are actually a silver lining.

Cannot believe it though.

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I said last year we should have signed Keenum instead of trading for Smith and got a bunch of shit.

SFREDSKIN 09-15-2019 05:19 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1230227]Fixed it for you.[/quote]

Yep, forgot that asshole!! Fuck Trent!!

Warthog 09-15-2019 05:26 PM

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Case Keenum is mediocre and has missed two wide open TD passes in 2 games. Much of offensive is garbage time points and yardage. Case has been in 6 NFL teams. He’s a backup. Make him one.

It’s time to start thinking about next year. Bring in rookies and backups to replace guys who will be 100% gone next year.

Trade guys like TW, van Norman, Moses and others while we can still get something for them.

Greg Manusky needs to be fired immediately. Bring in one of the ass’t defensive coaches and see if he can do better. How many teams have to score over 30 points before he is fired. Do we even have a sack yet? Manusky will be sacrificed within 1-2 games.

Where are the posters who said we’d go to the playoffs or win 11 games? Neither offensive nor defense is good enough to win more 5 games. If we lose to the Giants this team will implode. Already spirit is disappearing. We’ll get it back if we play the young guys.

Gruden will be an offensive coordinator for someone else next year. Piss poor HC, if I was coaching for my job this year, I’d go for it every fourth down.

I’m only watching to see rookies like McLaurin develop. Bring in Haskins, playing Case proves nothing.


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calia 09-15-2019 05:28 PM

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I have a feeling if we get spanked by the Bears, Gruden may get canned. But it would have to be the kind of loss that suggests that the team has given up on him. I’d never imagine thinking that possible on week 3, but....


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Ruhskins 09-15-2019 05:29 PM

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[quote=calia;1230241]I have a feeling if we get spanked by the Bears, Gruden may get canned. But it would have to be the kind of loss that suggests that the team has given up on him. I’d never imagine thinking that possible on week 3, but....


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The problem is that the offense hasn't given up. Defense is playing like shit.

Warthog 09-15-2019 05:41 PM

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1230242]The problem is that the offense hasn't given up. Defense is playing like shit.[/QUOTE]



Offensive stats are full of “garbage time” yards and TD’s. Take away the garbage time points and we aren’t very good offensively. Bring in HASKINS!!


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htownskinfan 09-15-2019 05:42 PM

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I took my RZR off-roading,didn’t watch the game,I’m in such a much better mood,glad I didn’t sit through another shit show

sdskinsfan2001 09-15-2019 05:55 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1230236]Keenum and Flowers were the BEST FA signings this year!

They are actually a silver lining.

Cannot believe it though.

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The left side or our line has been better than the left side.

mooby 09-15-2019 05:59 PM

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Haven't seen it mentioned by god damn what's up with all the holding penalties this year? Are the coaches that bad at teaching technique or the refs being overzealous?

DYoungJelly 09-15-2019 06:07 PM

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[QUOTE=Warthog;1230245]Offensive stats are full of “garbage time” yards and TD’s. Take away the garbage time points and we aren’t very good offensively. Bring in HASKINS!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Stop.

The offense has surprised everyone who has been paying attention for the last 8 months.

Nobody is saying they are good, but they have exceeded every expectation against two good defenses.



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Chief X_Phackter 09-15-2019 06:13 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1230248]The left side or our line has been better than the left side.[/quote]

Wow, that's pretty damn good.

Chico23231 09-15-2019 06:23 PM

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1230253]Wow, that's pretty damn good.[/quote]

Progress

sdskinsfan2001 09-15-2019 06:57 PM

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Oh shit. How did I not notice that lol?

*right side

PorkSkins 09-15-2019 07:38 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1230252]Stop.

The offense has surprised everyone who has been paying attention for the last 8 months.

Nobody is saying they are good, but they have exceeded every expectation against two good defenses.



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The offense hasn't been great (except the first half of last week's game), but it has played well enough to win ball games. Particularly, if we can cut down on the penalties.

IMO, the defense has been the main culprit in these losses. In the second half of last week's game and from the second quarter of today's game, the defense has been stir fried s**t.

I mean the way Dallas was marching up and down the field today in the second half was reminiscent of a flag football game. Horrible!

mooby 09-15-2019 07:48 PM

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1230252]Stop.

The offense has surprised everyone who has been paying attention for the last 8 months.

Nobody is saying they are good, but they have exceeded every expectation against two good defenses.



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I agree with this. They've pleasantly surprised with the ability to put points up (the penalties I have a major problem with though) but at the same time they have scored 2 garbage time stat-padding td's that literally had no outcome on the game.

Also kudos to McLaurin, because he's had a 2 game stretch where he's looked better than Doctson has at any point in his career.

SFREDSKIN 09-15-2019 08:12 PM

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Fuck Norman!! He was making locker bulletin board comments and got his ass burned over and over. Lesson learned, STFU!!

[url]https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/dak-prescott-gets-revenge-after-josh-normans-trash-talk/t7tpc9stsv6d1iuv76qhglax5[/url]

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/redskins-rocked-home-opener-vs-cowboys[/url]

metalskins 09-15-2019 08:52 PM

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The defense was supposed to be our strength this year. I envisioned scenarios where the defense is killing it, the offense is struggling, but the score is like 6-3. Maybe losing Allen and Dunbar WAS that big of a deal? Hard to believe that one player can make that big of a difference.

But let's not kid ourselves, even though the offense is scoring over 20 points (some of those points are garbage time points), the offense is completely unbalanced. You have a future hall of famer in the backfield and you're not using him. You stick with the running game even when it's tough, but you know with AP in the back field, he can break one at any given minute. I think Gruden is digging his own grave by going away from the running game.

Maybe Manusky's defense is more successful if the offense can become a little more ball controlled. But Gruden wants to throw it all over the place. Yes, we have some talent at wide receiver (finally), but you have Adrian Peterson in the backfield for Pete's sake. He's the type of player to take a team on his back. Use him. Establish a ball controlled offense that keeps the other team's offense off the field. And when the time is right, hit Terry M for a huge gainer.

Gruden is going to have to make some changes now. This team is heading toward 1-4.

mooby 09-15-2019 09:23 PM

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All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?

HTTR 09-15-2019 09:29 PM

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[QUOTE=mooby;1230268]All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?[/QUOTE]



I thought that was bizarre, especially coming right after (or before) AP busted a 5 yarder around the left side. It may just be a polite way of saying that our FO has their heads up their asses.

jamf 09-15-2019 09:33 PM

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[quote=mooby;1230268]All that talk from Pam Oliver about Jay Gruden not liking AP because he's a north-south guy, wtf was up with that? If a guy is not a good scheme fit for you, why is he here?[/quote]

What’s really odd is AP has been the only good back(statistically) under Gruden.

punch it in 09-15-2019 09:35 PM

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This is the most terrible start to a football season ever.
Skins 0-2
Canes 1-2 (beat bethune cookman but i think u actually lose style points for playing them)
Suicide pool - Took Browns first week
Fantasy- 0-2
Fuck You football. Fuck you.

punch it in 09-15-2019 09:35 PM

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[QUOTE=Ruhskins;1230222]Offense has scored 48 points in two games. Defense has allowed 63 points in two games. Again, #FireManusky.[/QUOTE]



14 of those points were garbage time. Offense has its problems too. Yay us.

Hail to the Redskins 09-15-2019 09:42 PM

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Just to add... maybe it's too early to judge Sweat or Collins (although after watching him rush for the 6 games, I'm predicting Sweat will be a massive bust), as they are having to play under the direction of the worst DC this side of Joe Barry.

A new DC and these guys may flourish, who knows? They just never will under Manusky.

Want more proof?

Preston Smith: 1.5 sacks last week, INT this week in GB
B. Breeland: INT today for Chiefs
K. Fuller: INT today for Chiefs

Guys leave here, perform ust as well, or better...guys come to this defense... and you get what you've seen from Z. Brown, J. Norman, L. Collins, etc.

...and if I remember correctly, Brown was Pro-Bowl production before keys to D were given to Manusky, right?


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