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Pfffff all these pre game analysis and excuses are loser mentality.

I like it more the Belichick way, only even more into the future :

"We're onto getting destroyed by the Bills".

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"Kirk Cousins can go fuck himself."

- said every man

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235118]Top 3 Draft pick[/quote]

We would get that with Haskins too

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1235122]- Not exposing Dwayne Haskins to an NFL defense when he clearly isn't ready
- [B]Showing the rest of the team that you'll start the best players every game
[/B]- Not showing the rest of the league how awful Haskins is (at this point) so you have a chance of trading him for some value when we draft a QB first overall in 2020.
- Teaching Haskins that he actually has to put the work in to EARN the job instead of just being an entitled a-hole. (reports were he was lazy, had a bad attitude, and felt entitled - we need to nip that in the bud so we don't have a repeat of the RG3 situation).

You know Snyder and Allen WANT to see Haskins on the field. They are they ones who disregarding the coaching staff and scouting departments advice to draft Haskins 15th overall when the team had a 2nd round grade on him (and half of the league had a 3rd round grade on him). The fact that Snyder and Allen aren't FORCING Haskins into the starting line-up is very telling. it indicates that they are now seeing what the coaching staff and scouts knew all along - Haskins isn't an NFL starter at this point. He's a project and he may take a year or two to develop.[/quote]

You can't with a straight face tell me that he is that much worse than Keenum and McCoy, who are about to be a combined 1-7. He is going to have to play. Also, I want to see where people had a 3rd round grade on him going into the draft. I don't recall seeing that at all

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Let’s say Haskins is an eventual bust. If we wait to play him for a season or a season and a half, we just delay knowing the truth. That’s what happened to Jason Campbell, a first round draft choice a decade ago. We waited to start him well into his second season and he was a bust theb was gone after playing as the starter for a couple seasons.

With a first round pick you have to give them 2-3 seasons as starter to prove they can win or not.

For every QB who waited a season or more before starting, I can give you a very good or great QB who started from game one.

If Haskins can’t beat or at least match Keenum or McCoy’s pitiful QB play, then doesn’t it make sense to find out sooner rather than later? Keenum handed off the ball mostly last game and had a pitiful 12 passes for a measly 77 yds.
Dwayne could do that? Case had a game where he had 5 turnovers ( plus two more fumbles recovered by us). Haskins couldn’t beat that?

Ppl here list QB like Brady, Young, Mulhomme who waited to play QB. That’s because they were playing AND LEARNING from very good or even great QB. What is Haskins learning by watching these two journeyman BACKUP QB??

I think Haskins can play as well or more truthfully, as Badly, as Case and Colt. Then he is learning in the crucible of the game, not riding pine.
If he plays even worse than these two crappy QB, then we are at least starting on the trial period of 2-3 seasons before we AGAIN draft a new QB.


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[quote=Warthog;1235129]Let’s say Haskins is an eventual bust. If we wait to play him for a season or a season and a half, we just delay knowing the truth. That’s what happened to Jason Campbell, a first round draft choice a decade ago. We waited to start him well into his second season and he was a bust theb was gone after playing as the starter for a couple seasons.

With a first round pick you have to give them 2-3 seasons as starter to prove they can win or not.

For every QB who waited a season or more before starting, I can give you a very good or great QB who started from game one.

If Haskins can’t beat or at least match Keenum or McCoy’s pitiful QB play, then doesn’t it make sense to find out sooner rather than later? Keenum handed off the ball mostly last game and had a pitiful 12 passes for a measly 77 yds.
Dwayne could do that? Case had a game where he had 5 turnovers ( plus two more fumbles recovered by us). Haskins couldn’t beat that?

Ppl here list QB like Brady, Young, Mulhomme who waited to play QB. That’s because they were playing AND LEARNING from very good or even great QB. What is Haskins learning by watching these two journeyman BACKUP QB??

I think Haskins can play as well or more truthfully, as Badly, as Case and Colt. Then he is learning in the crucible of the game, not riding pine.
If he plays even worse than these two crappy QB, then we are at least starting on the trial period of 2-3 seasons before we AGAIN draft a new QB.


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Remind me again, who did "Mulhomme" learn from?

You guys are right, we should start our rookie qb who came in in relief 4 weeks ago and promptly threw 3 picks, on a short week against a tough team whose one weakness (qb) turned into a strength the last 3 weeks since he got pissed off his own teammates were calling him out for being garbage.

I concede my argument. Now when Haskins fails because he's not ready, we can just sell him for the cheap and add qb to the laundry list of problems this team has.

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[quote=mooby;1235130][B]Remind me again, who did "Mulhomme" learn from[/B]?

You guys are right, we should start our rookie qb who came in in relief 4 weeks ago and promptly threw 3 picks, on a short week against a tough team whose one weakness (qb) turned into a strength the last 3 weeks since he got pissed off his own teammates were calling him out for being garbage.

I concede my argument. Now when Haskins fails because he's not ready, we can just sell him for the cheap and add qb to the laundry list of problems this team has.[/quote]

This error makes me look like Warpath spell test champ

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[quote=mooby;1235130]Remind me again, who did "Mulhomme" learn from?

You guys are right, we should start our rookie qb who came in in relief 4 weeks ago and promptly threw 3 picks, on a short week against a tough team whose one weakness (qb) turned into a strength the last 3 weeks since he got pissed off his own teammates were calling him out for being garbage.

I concede my argument. Now when Haskins fails because he's not ready, we can just sell him for the cheap and add qb to the laundry list of problems this team has.[/quote]

If you don't want to start him on a short week fine (although I was of the mindset he should have been prepped to start vs. Miami) but the week after? You have 10 days to get him ready to play. Either he has it or he doesn't at this point I'd like to see him get these last 8 games to show what he has.

Peyton threw 3 ints his first game, not saying he is Peyton but rookies are gonna struggle, although that 3rd int was on Vernon more so than Dwayne

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Haskins will start against the Bills. If not then, then he has to start after the bye against the Jets. He wasnt ready week 1 and he might not be ready week 9 but he has to get in there in so we start the process of evaluating him. To not start Haskins at least for 5 plus games is so illogical .. that it makes sense for the Skins.

Craig Hoffman said yesterday on the radio that Haskins is coming along. In practice he is mostly checking out of bad run plays into good run plays etc so that is encouraging if hes to the point of being able to change protections, slides, direction of run plays etc.

Week 1 is too soon.
Week 17 is too late.
Week 9 is just right.

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Hope he starts v Buffalo because I'll be at that game

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[quote=Chico23231;1235131]This error makes me look like Warpath spell test champ[/quote]

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I am not endorsing starting Haskins (which should be obvious by now) but if there was any week to start, I'd say coming off the bye against the Jets looks good. That aside, we haven't seen any indication from anyone inside the organization that he's even close to being ready, so I am perfectly fine with him riding pine as long as he's not ready.

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Mahomey

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Vikes 48 skins 17

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Narrative : the Redskins know Cousins backwards and forewords. Keenum performed a miracle there.
29-13 skins

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Kirk Cousins, last 3 weeks:

976 yards
10 TD
1 INT

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I think the Skins are very lucky that game 3 of the World Series did not coincide with their game. That means people in Washington will actually watch the game.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235175]Kirk Cousins, last 3 weeks:

976 yards
10 TD
1 INT[/quote]

Kirk does this every single year. Starts a little slow, gets red hot, then when the pressure is at it's highest, when you really need him to play his best, he folds. Kirk isn't and may never be a big game, playoff type of QB. But he is most certainly better than anyone we have.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1235176]I think the Skins are very lucky that game 3 of the World Series did not coincide with their game. That means people in Washington will actually watch the game.[/quote]

I wonder how many people would pick the Redskins over the Nationals if they were on the same night? Maybe the families of the players and coaches and that is it.

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Eh most of the country would watch the NFL over the WS, they do every year which is probably why the MLB scheduled it this way.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235180]Eh most of the country would watch the NFL over the WS, they do every year which is probably why the MLB scheduled it this way.[/quote]

I meant the locals having to chose.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1235179]I wonder how many people would pick the Redskins over the Nationals if they were on the same night? Maybe the families of the players and coaches and that is it.[/quote]

I would be watching both. I’ve tortured myself and watch every single game till the end whether the Redskins are winning or losing. My stupid loyalty to the team that I love is like an addiction.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235180]Eh most of the country would watch the NFL over the WS, they do every year which is probably why the MLB scheduled it this way.[/quote]

It will interfere with Sunday night football which is let's face it always the better prime time game the NFL has now. In the past it has also matched up with MNF. I know MLB used to avoid conflict but they seemed to have not worried about it as much as in the past.

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[quote=Buffalo Bob;1235179]I wonder how many people would pick the Redskins over the Nationals if they were on the same night? Maybe the families of the players and coaches and that is it.[/quote]

I'm not even a Nats or Lastros fan but would only watch the NFL in between innings if the game interfered with the WS.

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I hope Dunbar gets 5 picks but i am guessing Zimmer wont rely on KC

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235180]Eh most of the country would watch the NFL over the WS, they do every year which is probably why the MLB scheduled it this way.[/quote]

This season? I'd rather watch the World Series if I am being honest. Even with football being my favorite sport

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1235192]I hope Dunbar gets 5 picks but i am guessing Zimmer wont rely on KC

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He is quickly becoming one of the better corners in the league, still bugs me we had him, Breeland (when he was playing well) and Fuller on the same team

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1235192]I hope Dunbar gets 5 picks but i am guessing Zimmer wont rely on KC

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I agree healthy diet of Cook to open up the pass later.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1235194]He is quickly becoming one of the better corners in the league, still bugs me we had him, Breeland (when he was playing well) and Fuller on the same team[/quote]

Fuller was good for the system but hes not anything special in KC. In fact that trade was basically a wash

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No way would I watch Case Keenum over this epic Nats run. No way.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235196]Fuller was good for the system but hes not anything special in KC. In fact that trade was basically a wash[/quote]

Bring him back here for the system then. I don't like that kind of wash. He was really showing something here at the time. That whole KC defense is utter garbage water, I am not holding that too hard against him

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[quote=skinsfan69;1235197]No way would I watch Case Keenum over this epic Nats run. No way.[/quote]

I'd rather watch a lifetime movie marathon than watch Case Keenum do anything

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On the plus side I'm looking forward to getting a normal nights sleep on Thursday.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;1235207]I'd rather watch a lifetime movie marathon than watch Case Keenum do anything[/quote]

You'll be in for a surprise, tomorrow Captain Case not Kirk! Will throw for 400 yards and 4 tds , Terry will haul in 2 of those and the skins win 35-17!

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So is tomorrow when our magical run begins to coincide with year 100 of the NFL? I think the numbers are aligned in our favor.

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[quote=MTK;1235213]So is tomorrow when our magical run begins to coincide with year 100 of the NFL? I think the numbers are aligned in our favor.[/quote]

By Magical run, i hope you mean moving on towards 1-15 and the first overall pick in the draft. With Snyders team being stomped in back to back weeks by winning teams lead by the coach and QB he foolishly got rid of, Snyder finally decides to fire bruce allen.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1235175]Kirk Cousins, last 3 weeks:

976 yards
10 TD
1 INT[/quote]

He's annually inconsistent and sucks in primetime.
Darnold was player of the week before the Pats game.
Week to week unexplainable extremes are a nfl specialty.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1235188]It will interfere with Sunday night football which is let's face it always the better prime time game the NFL has now. In the past it has also matched up with MNF. I know MLB used to avoid conflict but they seemed to have not worried about it as much as in the past.[/quote]

It would only match up against MNF if the Friday, Saturday, or Sunday WS game gets rained out. Monday and Thursday are always the scheduled travel days in the WS.

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I wasn’t sad to see CZousins go, but he is a class act appreciating the team that gave him an opportunity , unlike the shannans
.

Much respect for him

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Thielen ruled out Thursday