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CRedskinsRule 01-05-2020 03:16 PM

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[QUOTE=MTK;1242085]Just think only 4 months of this second guessing to go


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Schneed10 01-05-2020 03:25 PM

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[quote=MTK;1242088][IMG]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/a43af5407e24557376c376e710c8232a.jpg[/IMG]

The one guarantee in the draft is there are no guarantees


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lol I’m a big fan of this running joke

MTK 01-05-2020 03:35 PM

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I love Booger memes


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jamf 01-05-2020 06:51 PM

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Draft is in Vegas this year. Warpath party?

punch it in 01-05-2020 07:21 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1242086]Pretty much this. It’s like when Jamf drafted Saquon at no 1 in fantasy football this year...you can’t argue it.[/QUOTE]



Ouch. Lol

punch it in 01-05-2020 07:24 PM

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[QUOTE=jamf;1242116]Draft is in Vegas this year. Warpath party?[/QUOTE]



Yeah sure just call it something else like “vera bradley give away at free spa weekend “ so that the boss is ok with it....

Ohioskins 01-06-2020 01:08 PM

Re: Chase young discussion
 
Seems to me Young is the obvious pick at No. 2. The greatest potential for embarrassment would be to take someone else at No. 2 and then have Young turn out to be the ROY.

Burgold 01-06-2020 01:33 PM

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Is Chase really THAT GOOD??? I haven't seen him so just asking,we can't afford to mess this up.

sdskinsfan2001 01-06-2020 01:50 PM

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Keep it simple stupid

That's how we need to approach the No. 2 overall pick.

sdskinsfan2001 01-06-2020 01:52 PM

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However, Tua entering the draft helps us in regards possibly trading down. Although I don't think we will.

Chase Young and Montez Sweat DE combo is nasty. They both play well against the run too.

Ohioskins 01-06-2020 01:58 PM

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Yes, Chase Young is THAT GOOD. He is probably the consensus pick as the best player in college football this season. Since Joe Burrow is a southern Ohio boy and the Bengals desperately need a quarterback, it is about 95% certain they will take Burrow. After that, I think every analyst unanimously agree that they would pick Young.

CRedskinsRule 01-06-2020 02:02 PM

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[quote=Ohioskins;1242188]Yes, Chase Young is THAT GOOD. He is probably the consensus pick as the best player in college football this season. Since Joe Burrow is a southern Ohio boy and the Bengals desperately need a quarterback, it is about 95% certain they will take Burrow. After that, I think every analyst unanimous would pick Young.[/quote]

With this point of view in mind, what type of trade would wow Chase Young supporters enough to be worth trading down, assuming we go no lower than 9 with Jacksonville.

Would you risk trading with Detroit one spot for a lesser haul, thinking they need a qb to replace Stafford and still get either Chase Young, Andrew Thomas or the CB out of Ohio State

edit: Matt Stafford would be an expensive cap hit this year so no trading with them and getting Young

skinsfaninok 01-06-2020 02:08 PM

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There are bust every yr yes but you can't pass up on Young's potential

OldSkinsGuy 01-06-2020 02:08 PM

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[quote=Burgold;1242181]Is Chase really THAT GOOD??? I haven't seen him so just asking,we can't afford to mess this up.[/quote]

IMO, I think he's that good. Not too many defensive players make it on the Heisman ballot. I am hoping we get him so can he help transform our defense.

Skinsfanatic 01-06-2020 02:14 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1242190]With this point of view in mind, what type of trade would wow Chase Young supporters enough to be worth trading down, assuming we go no lower than 9 with Jacksonville.

Would you risk trading with Detroit one spot for a lesser haul, thinking they need a qb to replace Stafford and still get either Chase Young, Andrew Thomas or the CB out of Ohio State

edit: Matt Stafford would be an expensive cap hit this year so no trading with them and getting Young[/quote]

I think you take Young UNLESS the Dolphins come offering three first-rounders (two this year and one next year) plus a second or third this year. IF they think the Lions will take Tua at 3 and aren't sold on Herbert, then maybe......

Ohioskins 01-06-2020 03:14 PM

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Lions would be crazy to take Tua at 3. The guy may never be able to effectively play football again and you take him at No. 3 ??????????. Plus both Trevor Lawrence adn Justin Fields will probably be available at the top of the draft next year.

Ohioskins 01-06-2020 03:14 PM

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But if we did trade down, Okudah is the CB take. He could be a starter from teh get go next year.

MTK 01-06-2020 07:00 PM

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Only way I’d consider trading down is if we got a RG3 type of haul.


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mooby 01-06-2020 07:24 PM

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[quote=MTK;1242229]Only way I’d consider trading down is if we got a RG3 type of haul.


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+1

I don't see that happening either. Chase Young it is.

SkinzWin 01-06-2020 11:32 PM

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Proof Chase Young is destined to be a Skin (click on the thumbnail, I’ll why it’s not showing up)

[IMG]https://ibb.co/HpQ9cH9[/IMG]

calia 01-08-2020 11:30 AM

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Man, watching those video clips makes me think we’d be crazy not to draft him. Crazy speed off the line. Wentz, Prescott, and Jones are not outrunning this dude.


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BigHairedAristocrat 01-08-2020 11:48 AM

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Young looks amazing. But so does Burrow. I know that Burrow almost seems like a no-brainer for Cincy, Young should make them think twice.

I wonder though, if we could help them have their cake and eat it, too: Haskins + the #2 pick + ___ for the #1 overall pick so we can take Burrow.

Aside from whether or not Cincy would be interested in something like that, would the Skins?

Number44 01-08-2020 11:59 AM

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242426]Young looks amazing. But so does Burrow. I know that Burrow almost seems like a no-brainer for Cincy, Young should make them think twice.

I wonder though, if we could help them have their cake and eat it, too: Haskins + the #2 pick + ___ for the #1 overall pick so we can take Burrow.

Aside from whether or not Cincy would be interested in something like that, [B]would the Skins?[/B][/quote]

No.

MTK 01-08-2020 12:03 PM

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Cincy won’t pass up the chance to take Burrow. Zero chance.

Just like we shouldn’t pass up Young.

I’m going to say it all offseason, barring something crazy happening like a catastrophic injury, those two picks are locks.


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skinsfaninok 01-08-2020 12:31 PM

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[quote=MTK;1242430]Cincy won’t pass up the chance to take Burrow. Zero chance.

Just like we shouldn’t pass up Young.

I’m going to say it all offseason, barring something crazy happening like a catastrophic injury, those two picks are locks.


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It makes for boring draft hype but I agree, no chance the 2 guys aren't #1 and #2 barring injury

SunnySide 01-08-2020 12:37 PM

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This convo made me look up if there is a vegas line on who is drafted #1. On Nov 7, 2019 (before Tuas injury), the betting line for who will be the No. 1 pick:

Tue -150
Burrow +200
Herbert + 600
Young +750
Fromm +800
[url]https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/chase-youngs-odds-first-overall-2020-nfl-draft-improve/[/url]
Im sure the current one has Burrow as the clear cut favorite now.

skinsfan69 01-08-2020 01:01 PM

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Hard not to get excited about Young and Sweat as 4-3 ends.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-08-2020 02:23 PM

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[quote=MTK;1242430]Cincy won’t pass up the chance to take Burrow. Zero chance.

Just like we shouldn’t pass up Young.

I’m going to say it all offseason, barring something crazy happening like a catastrophic injury, those two picks are locks.


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I agree those are the first two picks, but many analysts say Young is THE top prospect. This does not take away from Burrow, but Cincy could view a situation like that as their getting to have their cake and eat it too. I agree its unlikely, as there is a reason this league gives QBs a premium, but every pick has its price.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-08-2020 02:25 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1242440]It makes for boring draft hype but I agree, no chance the 2 guys aren't #1 and #2 barring injury[/quote]

Agree that the first two picks will be Burrow, then young. but whos to say Cincy wouldn't trade the pick to the skins - or another team - for a load. Or that the skins wouldn't trade the 2 for a load?

Schneed10 01-08-2020 03:00 PM

Re: Chase young discussion
 
[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1242459]Agree that the first two picks will be Burrow, then young. but whos to say Cincy wouldn't trade the pick to the skins - or another team - for a load. Or that the skins wouldn't trade the 2 for a load?[/quote]

I have to admit, depending on the size of the load, the Skins would have to think about it. But it would have to be a load size you couldn't refuse, because Young is dominant. I like the idea of having a superstar, which we just don't have right now. But it at least has to be thought about.

We also need to think of another word besides load, because gross.

los panda 01-08-2020 03:31 PM

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Is there any chance that we do not draft Chase Young at #2? What are the chances that the Bengals draft him or trade the #1 pick?

And if he's there at #2, is there any chance we don't draft him or trade the pick? It seems like a no brainer if he's there.

HTTR! Very excited about this offseason, especially the draft.

Schneed10 01-08-2020 04:35 PM

Re: Chase young discussion
 
[quote=los panda;1242468]Is there any chance that we do not draft Chase Young at #2? What are the chances that the Bengals draft him or trade the #1 pick?

And if he's there at #2, is there any chance we don't draft him or trade the pick? It seems like a no brainer if he's there.

HTTR! Very excited about this offseason, especially the draft.[/quote]

You should never completely rule out a trade because what if some team just blows the doors off with an offer.

But what are the chances? Small. I think it's a virtual lock the Bengals will take Burrow and we'll take Chase.

SunnySide 01-08-2020 04:56 PM

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LT needs worry me. I have no quantifiable evidence or stats or trends to point to ... but I do worry an old school coach may think solidifying LT is the No. 1 priority of a team and talk themselves into downplaying Chase to trump up a LT.

Id certainly bet we take Chase but I cant help that nagging concern that we somehow talk ourselves into thinking need at LT is greater than a Chase Young on the edge.

If we trade back, itd be a lot easier to swallow if its a big load vs a marginal 1st and 2nd.

Kope 01-08-2020 04:57 PM

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[quote=Schneed10;1242477]You should never completely rule out a trade because what if some team just blows the doors off with an offer.

But what are the chances? Small. I think it's a virtual lock the Bengals will take Burrow and we'll take Chase.[/quote]

I would take a Hershel Walker trade or Chase. Just want to see good draft like last three years.

Ohioskins 01-08-2020 06:27 PM

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Cincinnati is under a lot of pressure to do something to placate a very unhappy fan base. That "something" is adding a potential star quarterback from southeast Ohio. When Burrow used his Heisman speech to stump for Food Banks in SE Ohio he became close to a folk hero before even being drafted. I can't imagine the Bengals passing on him.

NYCskinfan82 01-11-2020 09:14 PM

Re: Chase young discussion
 
A dominant front 4 would definitely be a game changer just ask SF.

SFREDSKIN 01-11-2020 09:42 PM

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Chase is the missing link.

Giantone 01-11-2020 10:06 PM

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Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .

Chico23231 01-11-2020 10:12 PM

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Sure we will take burrow

CRedskinsRule 01-11-2020 10:13 PM

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[QUOTE=Giantone;1242745]Rumor mill has the Giants giving Bengals this year #1 and #5 and next years #1 . Bengals take Young and trade to the Giants for Burrow .[/QUOTE]That's a huge risk for Bengals because there is no guarantee that Bengals get Burrows, in fact i think its safe to say burrows wouldnt make it to the giants slot.

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