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One look at that pic of his leg tells you he's not playing again.

His injury was similar to ones soldiers suffer in combat.

It's great that he's pushing hard to get back to as close to 100% as he can, but he's not playing again. Looking forward to the ESPN special on Friday.

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[quote=MTK;1251137]One look at that pic of his leg tells you he's not playing again.

His injury was similar to ones soldiers suffer in combat.

It's great that he's pushing hard to get back to as close to 100% as he can, but he's not playing again. Looking forward to the ESPN special on Friday.[/quote]

It looked like a picture of someone who was already dead and their leg was in decomposition state.

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I can't believe they didn't have to amputate. And definitely not surprised it got an infection.

Alex Smith is related to Chuck Norris. Has to be. Tough SOB.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1251140]I can't believe they didn't have to amputate. And definitely not surprised it got an infection.

Alex Smith is related to Chuck Norris. Has to be. Tough SOB.[/quote]

IIRC from the days / weeks following his initial injury and rounds of surgery, they did recommend to Alex that they amputate it as he began to start getting sick from the infection, etc... But they left it up to him, and he decided to go down the much more difficult road of all of the surgeries and work involved to try and save his leg. Alex chose to go the tough road. Respect to him for that.

Looking at that picture now, and especially what his leg looks like even today a year and a half after surgery, I now throw my hat in the ring of there is no way he ever plays again.

I watched the little clip from Jimmy Traina's twitter. Alex's leg is disfigured, not just from scars, the bones are no longer straight, they actually look wavy and he has a huge lump / mass of some kind above his ankle. I was taken aback by the color of the skin of his leg. I will warn all, the pictures and video should not be watched by anyone who is squeamish. This man has been through pure hell, as others have said, it looks like a recovered combat injury....

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There were pictures his family took last halloween...tou can google it...and you can clearly see that he will never play again. 1 minute after the injury you were able to see that he would never play again. Anyone involved with the skins or Smith will say that hes trying to come back...because of the contract money. We dont need the hardy boys to solve this one. Dudes done. Hes been done since the moment the injury took place.

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I hate to give clicks to a sheisty site like TMZ but there's another picture or two in there for anyone interested.

[url]https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/27/alex-smith-leg-injury-picture-washington-redskins/[/url]

Absolutely brutal.

But also amazing considering we're not even 2 years from the injury and there's months-old video of him dropping back and taking reps on the football field. Even if he never gets any further than that it's still an amazing accomplishment by itself.

A teaser video from ESPN with Alex talking about it.

[url]https://twitter.com/E60/status/1255152173886787584?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmz.com%2F2020%2F04%2F27%2Falex-smith-leg-injury-picture-washington-redskins%2F[/url]

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Yikes... That is brutal.

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Yikes.

Is that real? Part of his quad, to fix his shin?? That looks (and sounds) made up.

But if so, there's no WAY he can play NFL football.

What are the cap ramifications with his salary? We're sitting pretty at around $35 million now ...

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His leg looks like he was in Iraq and stepped on a bomb.

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Alex Smith has shown amazing true grit just trying to come back to where he was at before.


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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1251162]His leg looks like he was in Iraq and stepped on a bomb.[/QUOTE]


He’s been working with doctors that specialize in combat injuries


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Not clicking on those picts.

Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot. Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

Looking forward to the show.

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Poor Alex, got to hand it to him, he’s one badass persevering person. He’ll never play again and for having gone through what he has, he deserves every penny and It’s still not enough as his leg will never be the same.

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[QUOTE=FWD Skins;1251180]Not clicking on those picts.

Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot. Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

Looking forward to the show.[/QUOTE]


Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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So what is the most likely thing to happen with Alex Smith contract? Alex is never playing again first off.

I would think post June 1st, Alex Smith would be ruled out for season and then would retire do to injury. Then we would apply the approximately 10 million insurance policy on the 21 million dead cap hit for this year? And I think next year (2021) we have another 10 Million in dead cap hit again...And that’s it I believe

Something like this ?

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[quote=Warthog;1251292]Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. [B]He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING[/B], due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Seeing what he's gone through he deserves every penny he's been paid

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[quote=FWD Skins;1251180]Not clicking on those picts.

[B]Name him the week one starter. Time to shit or get off the pot.[/B] Either the docs won't clear him to play (and insurance will pay out), or he will decide to retire. This never-ending cap hit suckle is ridiculous.

Looking forward to the show.[/quote]

Gangsta.

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According to OTC, who are generally very good, if we cut him post June 1st we would not take any further hit to this years cap and would save an extra $19m next year, doesn't sound quite right but as I said OTC is a generally very accurate site, any thoughts Schneed10?

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[quote=Warthog;1251292]Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract.

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Me and my best friend talk about that 2018 season often. Alex Smith reminded us both a lot of Mark Brunell in 2006, dink and dunking his way down the field, not taking any big chances, but generally playing mistake-free football.

I said many times that despite being 6-3, we were the "worst" 6-3 team in the NFL that season due to having basically no offense.....We were starting to be figured out. Alex would have won a few more games if he had not gotten hurt, but i think we would have been around 8-8 or 9-7. Not great, but respectable. We weren't going deep in the playoffs, IMO.

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[quote=Warthog;1251292]Alex is persistent and courageous. But his wife and family will not let him risk his life to play again. [B]He gets paid FOR DOING NOTHING, due to Bruce Allen’s generous
“ guaranteed money “ part of his contract. [/B]

Many here doubt Dwayne Haskins. But I think Haskins can beat Alex Smith in a straight up contest as quarterback. Smith was briefly successful here playing a dink and dunk, no mistakes brand of football. But if the Redskins got behind, he couldn’t or wouldn’t take the chances to bring them back. And right about when he was hurt, other teams were starting to figure out how to beat his unusual brand of football. He may have got us 6 wins that season, but even if he wasn’t hurt, he wasn’t going to win many more.

Haskins was just starting to come into his own, last season, when HE was hurt. But if he plays that way this year, no one can beat him. Not even his mentor, Alex Smith. Whether he comes back physically or not, Alex Smith will continue to help Haskins as his mentor and instructor. He’s the reason Dwayne improved so much as the season went on. Alex will collect his $21 mill, thanks to Bruce, and then next season decide if he wants to become an NFL executive. Dan Snyder would love to have him on the team, in some desk job, if he wants that.


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Was not a fan of Bruce extending Smith. But to say he isn't doing anything is ridiculous. The guy almost LOST HIS LEG. Then get a septic infection and almost DIED. Every single dime that is coming to him is WELL DESERVED.

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[quote=MTK;1244610]The injury almost killed him. Would a doctor even sign off on him playing again?[/quote]


Well the injury kind of killed him it was the infection. An infection can also come from a small cut.

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[quote=Back2RFK;1251329]Well the injury kind of killed him it was the infection. An infection can also come from a small cut.[/quote]

lets not get into symantecs here

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What does antivirus software have to do with it?

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1251306]Gangsta.[/quote]

I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb, and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.

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[quote=mooby;1251334]I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. [B]He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb[/B], and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.[/quote]

I don't get people complaining about this as well, it's outright ridiculous in my opinion.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1251341]I don't get people complaining about this as well, it's outright ridiculous in my opinion.[/quote]

I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1251342]I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.[/quote]

A lot of people have been complaining about Alex's contract from the beginning, and use his injury as "validating" their point.

Honestly, re-negotiating a contract like this, is basically kicking the can down the road. I don't know if it would have been smart of the team to do so.

Also, it is my understanding that Alex has been with the team, when he didn't need to. He has also been tutoring Dwayne from what I've heard. I'm not saying that this validates his cap number, but he has been a team player during his rehab, and done things that he didn't need IMO.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;1251342]I think it stems from the fact that after it was known that Alex was going to be out indefinitely, possibly permanently, that [B]he didn't make any attempt to re-negotiate into a more team friendly deal[/B] for what was left his player contract. That led to all the ridiculous rumors and some saying that the skins were thinking of doing a Bobby Bonilla-esque contract with Alex.

I think he had no incentive to do so, and i'm not even sure if he was ever asked by the team to consider such a thing. Alex was/is not the first and won't be the last to get paid major money while being sidelined with a career-threatening injury.[/quote]

That would've been a classic Dan all-timer right there.

"Hey, buddy, I know you suffered a compound fracture, and you had to deal with[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29112995/alex-smith-comeback-fight-save-qb-leg-life"] flesh eating bacteria, almost dying[/URL], you're in the midst of 17 surgeries over 9 months and they gave you a choice between amputation or a super-risky muscle transfer to save your leg. Hell, at one point your tibia was completely exposed and you were missing everything from your knee to your ankle.

But you know what would be suuuuper helpful? How about renegotiating your contract so we can get some cap relief? We really appreciate you being a team player in the most trying time of your life. Thanks bud. Owe you one."

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[QUOTE=mooby;1251344]That would've been a classic Dan all-timer right there.

"Hey, buddy, I know you suffered a compound fracture, and you had to deal with[URL="https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29112995/alex-smith-comeback-fight-save-qb-leg-life"] flesh eating bacteria, almost dying[/URL], you're in the midst of 17 surgeries over 9 months and they gave you a choice between amputation or a super-risky muscle transfer to save your leg. Hell, at one point your tibia was completely exposed and you were missing everything from your knee to your ankle.

But you know what would be suuuuper helpful? How about renegotiating your contract so we can get some cap relief? We really appreciate you being a team player in the most trying time of your life. Thanks bud. Owe you one."[/QUOTE]


Just ridiculous man, Alex didn’t owe the team anything after the injury

Thankfully Snyder has done right by him


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[quote=MTK;1251345]Just ridiculous man, Alex didn’t owe the team anything after the injury

Thankfully Snyder has done right by him


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Snyder has done right by most players when they had personal or professional crises.

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That was a great show. Mad respect

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1251347]That was a great show. Mad respect

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Amen.


I know he wants to play again, but jeez .... there's no shame in retiring Alex. Seriously bro. Be freakin careful.


Does anyone else think he has a future in coaching?

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1251348]Amen.


I know he wants to play again, but jeez .... there's no shame in retiring Alex. Seriously bro. Be freakin careful.



Does anyone else think he has a future in coaching?[/quote]

I doubt he wants to coach. He is probably financially set and does not want the insecurity of a coach....moving around with a young family.

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Just watched the show, I can’t imagine what Alex and family went through. There is no way he’s playing again, nor will his wife will ever let him play again. After they cut all the infected muscle, his leg was so fucked up and deformed, the movement on his leg so limited. Dan has done what any moral, conscious man should do, pay him every penny and don’t even question it. Bravo Alex, family and Danny. Please retire next year and find him a coaching job.

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I was pumped when we got Smith. He was a winner, even we were winning with him, and everything since his injury proves he's a winner 10 fold.

I hope he stays with the franchise is some capacity for a long time.

Wanna talk about building a culture!!! Alex offers everything you want from someone you work with.

There is just no way he should play again though. Way easier for me to say, because it's not my life and career, but it just seems like a bad idea imo.

And I don't give a fuck about how much he's getting paid still, did you see his fucking leg?? This was out of everyone's control. This is an injury you see every 20 years or so. You can't plan for it and you sure as hell shouldn't hold it against the player.

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[quote=Irrefutable;1251350]I doubt he wants to coach. He is probably financially set and does not want the insecurity of a coach....moving around with a young family.[/quote]

Actually struck me as having the prime mentality to coach, and plenty of guys coach in the NFL with young families. But I also suspect he could go front office too. Very smart highly motivated guy.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1251365]Actually struck me as having the prime mentality to coach, and plenty of guys coach in the NFL with young families. But I also suspect he could go front office too. Very smart highly motivated guy.[/quote]

Agree!

Everything about this guy screams football junky. This crazy bastard still wants to play!! I don't believe for a second, that he is going through all of this just for the money (it doesn't hurt, but he already has a shit ton of money). He is not just fading off into the sunset. He will be involved with football, in some capacity or another, for the rest of his life (working age life for sure) imo.

And young family life is way easier when that family can afford to have a parent stay at home for their full time job. Even if you have to move, that makes the transition way way easier.

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[quote=mooby;1251334]I can just imagine Ron Rivera: "hey CRIPPLE, shit or get off the pot"

Also this nonsense about Bruce Allen overpaying him is stupid AF. He got paid the going market rate for a starting NFL qb, and then almost died from a freak injury. Even if he got overpaid (which he didn't) he's still earned that money.[/quote]

I think the issue was extending him when he was already under contract. That was a bad business move simply because there was no history w/ Gruden and Smith. Gruden didn't run the type of offense that would have gotten the best out of Smith. Probably should have waited to see how thinks worked out before extending him.

But to me it's water under the bridge. Smtih deserves every single penny that he's being paid and then some.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1251359]Just watched the show, I can’t imagine what Alex and family went through. There is no way he’s playing again, nor will his wife will ever let him play again. After they cut all the infected muscle, his leg was so fucked up and deformed, the movement on his leg so limited. Dan has done what any moral, conscious man should do, pay him every penny and don’t even question it. Bravo Alex, family and Danny. Please retire next year and find him a coaching job.[/quote]

After they got rid of all the bad flesh he had no fucking leg. Just nothing. I have no idea how they took muscle/tissue from his calf and quad and slapped it on a deformed shot leg and got him to the point where he is now. That is a medical miracle.

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Amazing story, it was scary to see how quickly the infection set it and how things went downhill for him so fast. Wish him nothing but the best.


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