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Buffalo Bob 03-14-2020 03:54 PM

Re: Redskins General 2020 NFL Thread
 
Pulled from story on CBS Sports:

[I]The team originally announced that it had placed the exclusive tag on its star guard, but later clarified that Scherff has instead received the non-exclusively tag.

Using the non-exclusive version of the tag means that Scherff is free to negotiate a contract with other teams. If and when he agrees to terms, Washington will have the right to match that contract or else receive draft-pick compensation in exchange in the form of two first-round picks.[/I]

Why would someone offer Scheriff a contract and risk two 1st rounders? Another guy that has missed quite a few games the last couple years.

EdmundDorf 03-14-2020 04:14 PM

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They can negotiate a compromise trade, doesn't have to be 2 firsts....

EdmundDorf 03-14-2020 04:16 PM

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.... also the tender is less for the non-exclusive tag

EdmundDorf 03-14-2020 04:18 PM

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More likely that they are close to a deal and this is a place holder until the cba result becomes clear... the result, either way, alters the cap outlook

Buffalo Bob 03-14-2020 04:27 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1246750]They can negotiate a compromise trade, doesn't have to be 2 firsts....[/quote]

That seemed way high to me, didn't make sense, but I pretty much know next to nothing about how player contracts work, so I just believe what I read.

Buffalo Bob 03-14-2020 04:28 PM

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1246752]More likely that they are close to a deal and this is a place holder until the cba result becomes clear... the result, either way, alters the cap outlook[/quote]

Also they could be wanting a one year deal to see if he can be counted on health wise.

Chico23231 03-14-2020 07:17 PM

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Brandon Schreff...So the non exclusive franchise tag is interesting...gives the ability to truly define his market value as well as opening up for a trade.

I wonder if Ron’s experience with Andrew Norwell plays a part in the decision. Norwell went from UDA to All Pro in Carolina. They let him test the free agent market and he signed in Jacksonville where he has been a huge bust...like he’s been garbage.

I like the idea using this type of tag

Warthog 03-15-2020 10:50 PM

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1246757]Brandon Schreff...So the non exclusive franchise tag is interesting...gives the ability to truly define his market value as well as opening up for a trade.



I wonder if Ron’s experience with Andrew Norwell plays a part in the decision. Norwell went from UDA to All Pro in Carolina. They let him test the free agent market and he signed in Jacksonville where he has been a huge bust...like he’s been garbage.



I like the idea using this type of tag[/QUOTE]



Yes. Scherff had his worst season last year, with many penalties and mistakes. I think he was dragged down by Moses, who really had a terrible year. Was Scherff deteriorating or was it just an off year, followed by more Pro Bowl seasons? See how he does this season and go from there:

1. If he plays to his normal (excellent) season, then resign him to a long-term (and expensive) contract. He’ll be a Redskin for life.

2. If he continues to go downhill, then trade him and move Martin into his slot.


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SFREDSKIN 03-15-2020 11:57 PM

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[quote=Warthog;1246814]Yes. Scherff had his worst season last year, with many penalties and mistakes. I think he was dragged down by Moses, who really had a terrible year. Was Scherff deteriorating or was it just an off year, followed by more Pro Bowl seasons? See how he does this season and go from there:

1. If he plays to his normal (excellent) season, then resign him to a long-term (and expensive) contract. He’ll be a Redskin for life.

2. If he continues to go downhill, then trade him and move Martin into his slot.


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I blame Moses, I think Scherff was doing a 2 man job. Fuck Moses!!!

Warthog 03-16-2020 02:50 AM

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1246815]I blame Moses, I think Scherff was doing a 2 man job. Fuck Moses!!![/QUOTE]



Yeah, I agree! I want the Redskins to dump him and Trent and just get Kyle Smith to find OT starters from the draft and UDFA. Pick up a short-term, older OT in this scenario while we grow our OT rookies.


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sdskinsfan2001 03-24-2020 11:57 PM

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Less than 1 month until the draft.

2: R1P2 - EDGE CHASE YOUNG - OHIO STATE
66: R3P2 - S KYLE DUGGER - LENOIR-RHYNE
108: R4P2 - C CESAR RUIZ - MICHIGAN
142: R4P36 - TE DEVIN ASIASI - UCLA
162: R5P16 - CB LUQ BARCOO - SAN DIEGO STATE
216: R7P2 - OT VICTOR JOHNSON - APPALACHIAN STATE
229: R7P15 - OT TYRE PHILLIPS - MISSISSIPPI STATE

sdskinsfan2001 03-28-2020 03:51 PM

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Another Tua pick: Chad Reuter

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107680/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-six-trades-shake-up-round-1[/url]

mredskins 03-28-2020 05:55 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248331]Another Tua pick: Chad Reuter

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001107680/article/fourround-2020-nfl-mock-draft-six-trades-shake-up-round-1[/url][/quote]

And another game pass link, wtf is up with these links, it’s annoying

sdskinsfan2001 03-28-2020 06:44 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1248333]And another game pass link, wtf is up with these links, it’s annoying[/quote]

I guess I won't post articles from NFL.com. I have no idea why that happens. But I posted the right link. For some reason their site forwards it to the game pass link. Pretty stupid of them.

Edit: I just clicked on it again and it did go to the right link with the mock draft.

Who the hell knows??

mredskins 03-28-2020 07:20 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248334]I guess I won't post articles from NFL.com. I have no idea why that happens. But I posted the right link. For some reason their site forwards it to the game pass link. Pretty stupid of them.

Edit: I just clicked on it again and it did go to the right link with the mock draft.

Who the hell knows??[/quote]

I am not mad at you, I have post them too and get the same stupid thing. Frustrating

skinsfaninok 03-28-2020 08:13 PM

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[quote=mredskins;1248333]And another game pass link, wtf is up with these links, it’s annoying[/quote]

If u already have GP, This won't happen.

As for Tua, I just don't see it

Irrefutable 03-28-2020 08:22 PM

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1248046]Less than 1 month until the draft.

2: R1P2 - EDGE CHASE YOUNG - OHIO STATE
66: R3P2 - S KYLE DUGGER - LENOIR-RHYNE
108: R4P2 - C CESAR RUIZ - MICHIGAN
142: R4P36 - TE DEVIN ASIASI - UCLA
162: R5P16 - CB LUQ BARCOO - SAN DIEGO STATE
216: R7P2 - OT VICTOR JOHNSON - APPALACHIAN STATE
229: R7P15 - OT TYRE PHILLIPS - MISSISSIPPI STATE[/quote]

R3P2 has to be a Tackle or a TE
#108 Ruiz is in some mock drafts as a 1st round pick.... no chance he lasts until the 4th round

SkinzWin 03-28-2020 08:47 PM

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Lost out on Hooper and Cooper. Always the brides maid. Never the bride.

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/redskins/austin-hooper-free-agency-it-really-came-down-cleveland-and-washington[/url]

mooby 03-29-2020 10:16 AM

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Nobody wants to discuss Greg Manusky's next job?

He should be overqualified to be a [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-redskins-coach-greg-manusky-lands-college-job-as-quality-control-assistant/ar-BB11Qrfy?ocid=hplocalnews"]defensive quality control assistant at the University of Kentucky[/URL].

GridIron26 03-29-2020 10:57 AM

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Can't remember who asked about Reuben Foster's progress - apparently he is healing well and now Redskins thinks there's a chance they will see Foster in the training camp, assuming it's still on.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/3/28/21198282/reuben-foster-improving-redskins-feel-he-may-be-ready-for-training-camp-nfl[/url]

Chico23231 03-29-2020 11:26 AM

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[quote=mooby;1248341]Nobody wants to discuss Greg Manusky's next job?

He should be overqualified to be a [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-redskins-coach-greg-manusky-lands-college-job-as-quality-control-assistant/ar-BB11Qrfy?ocid=hplocalnews"]defensive quality control assistant at the University of Kentucky[/URL].[/quote]

Ouch

Chico23231 03-29-2020 11:28 AM

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[quote=GridIron26;1248343]Can't remember who asked about Reuben Foster's progress - apparently he is healing well and now Redskins thinks there's a chance they will see Foster in the training camp, assuming it's still on.

[url]https://www.hogshaven.com/2020/3/28/21198282/reuben-foster-improving-redskins-feel-he-may-be-ready-for-training-camp-nfl[/url][/quote]

Good news. Yeah the last update of evident nerve damage was concerning, glad he is working

Pervis_Griffith 03-29-2020 01:24 PM

Re: Redskins General 2020 NFL Thread
 
[quote=mooby;1248341]Nobody wants to discuss Greg Manusky's next job?

He should be overqualified to be a [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-redskins-coach-greg-manusky-lands-college-job-as-quality-control-assistant/ar-BB11Qrfy?ocid=hplocalnews"]defensive quality control assistant at the University of Kentucky[/URL].[/quote]


As a Louisville Cardinal season ticket holder (both football and basketball - and hence the name Pervis - Griffith (combo of the Cardinal hoop stars Pervis Ellison, and Darrell Griffith)) this is the best news of the day.

How the mighty have fallen.

Pervis_Griffith 03-29-2020 01:29 PM

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Looks like we found a CB ...

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/29/redskins-sign-cb-ronald-darby/[/url]

Brummie Brave 03-29-2020 01:53 PM

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1248358]Looks like we found a CB ...

[url]https://redskinswire.usatoday.com/2020/03/29/redskins-sign-cb-ronald-darby/[/url][/quote]

'one knock for Darby is his inability to stay healthy for long periods of time.'

He should fit right in then!

Meks 03-29-2020 02:36 PM

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[quote=mooby;1248341]Nobody wants to discuss Greg Manusky's next job?

He should be [b]overqualified[/b] to be a [URL="https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/former-redskins-coach-greg-manusky-lands-college-job-as-quality-control-assistant/ar-BB11Qrfy?ocid=hplocalnews"]defensive quality control assistant at the University of Kentucky[/URL].[/quote]

Yea well.... He's not.

Chico23231 03-29-2020 02:38 PM

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[quote=Brummie Brave;1248360]'one knock for Darby is his inability to stay healthy for long periods of time.'

He should fit right in then![/quote]

jeezz...yeah looked up the last 3 years

Half season
9 games
Last year he played 11 games , so trending up?

This signing is one where we are seeing he can bounce back after a difficult last year.

Chico23231 03-29-2020 02:40 PM

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[quote=Pervis_Griffith;1248356]As a Louisville Cardinal season ticket holder (both football and basketball - and hence the name Pervis - Griffith (combo of the Cardinal hoop stars Pervis Ellison, and Darrell Griffith)) this is the best news of the day.

How the mighty have fallen.[/quote]

Lol...nice!

Chico23231 03-29-2020 02:52 PM

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I would also think this probably does it for defense in free agency. Add Chase Young in the draft and draft offense side every pick there after. I think you look at Tackle with a high pick if possible and then go pass catcher/offensive weapons Mid-late in draft

AnonEmouse 03-29-2020 03:32 PM

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I still say go after Ryan and Randall. Darby is a 1 year prove it deal so no impact on cap in year 2 f he stinks so we have room for more signings.

WCommandersfan99 03-29-2020 10:04 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1248349]Good news. Yeah the last update of evident nerve damage was concerning, glad he is working[/quote]Yes. Would love to see what this kid could do. Him healthy and hungry learning from Thomas Davis excites me. A lot of talent at lb. Foster needs to be in the mix. Kid is fast and can be beastly.

WCommandersfan99 03-29-2020 10:05 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1248368]I would also think this probably does it for defense in free agency. Add Chase Young in the draft and draft offense side every pick there after. I think you look at Tackle with a high pick if possible and then go pass catcher/offensive weapons Mid-late in draft[/quote]That is exactly what I want to do. Take CY pick 1, then all offense after that. 2-3 new olinemen, a new tight end, and new receiver. Then call it a draft. Eager to see the team's strategy here soon.

NYCskinfan82 03-30-2020 12:21 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;1248368]I would also think this probably does it for defense in free agency. Add Chase Young in the draft and draft offense side every pick there after. I think you look at Tackle with a high pick if possible and then go pass catcher/offensive weapons Mid-late in draft[/quote]

This would be my draft also.

Warthog 03-31-2020 03:34 AM

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[QUOTE=The Skinsinator;1248383]That is exactly what I want to do. Take CY pick 1, then all offense after that. 2-3 new olinemen, a new tight end, and new receiver. Then call it a draft. Eager to see the team's strategy here soon.[/QUOTE]


After Chase I thought the Redskins would draft for TE. But with the Hooper gone to the Browns, the TE group looks very, very weak. Also, there is just not much left in TE by the third round. So the best available will be at OT and WR. My sense is that they’ll go for OT in the third. Fourth is either CB or WR. Kyle Smith was able to sniff good WR from the bottom of the draft and I bet they give him a chance to do it again.


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skinsfan69 03-31-2020 08:20 AM

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What do you think we could get for Jonathan Allen on draft day? I would possibly think about trading him. Payne and MI are my two starting tackles, Sweat and Young at the ends. Where does Allen fit in?

Not saying we do it, but I would think about it if we could get back a 1st rounder. Or if we could get back a quality starter.

skinsfaninok 03-31-2020 08:33 AM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1248484]What do you think we could get for Jonathan Allen on draft day? I would possibly think about trading him. Payne and MI are my two starting tackles, Sweat and Young at the ends. Where does Allen fit in?

Not saying we do it, but I would think about it if we could get back a 1st rounder. Or if we could get back a quality starter.[/quote]

No way a 1st, he hasn't done anything to warrant that.. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd and I like your idea, why not move him if we have a suitor?

NYCskinfan82 03-31-2020 08:59 AM

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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but NO NO NO to trading Allen, Payne and/or MI they will be BEASTS now we are taking the chains off of them. JMO.

KI Skins Fan 03-31-2020 08:59 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1248487]No way a 1st, he hasn't done anything to warrant that.. Maybe a 2nd or 3rd and I like your idea, [B]why not move him if we have a suitor?[/B][/quote]

Because he is a very good player, a team leader, and we need to rotate our DL to keep them fresh. When we get Chase Young, then we can rotate Kerrigan, Young, and Sweat at DE and rotate Ioannidis, Allen, Payne, and Settle at DT. Not to mention that injuries are a reality and need to be planned for.

Why is it when we finally are about to get to the point where we have excellent depth in a group, that some of you want to trade it away?

p.s. Also because the thought of our DL, as described above, is about to give me a chubby.

Chico23231 03-31-2020 09:27 AM

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no way trade a young defensive player especially installing a scheme which should play to his strengths.

NYCskinfan82 03-31-2020 09:56 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1248492]Because he is a very good player, a team leader, and we need to rotate our DL to keep them fresh. When we get Chase Young, then we can rotate Kerrigan, Young, and Sweat at DE and rotate Ioannidis, Allen, Payne, and Settle at DT. Not to mention that injuries are a reality and need to be planned for.

Why is it when we finally are about to get to the point where we have excellent depth in a group, that some of you want to trade it away?

p.s. Also because the thought of our DL, as described above, is about to give me a chubby.[/quote]

Facts.


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