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[quote=Giantone;1275037]You mean like Flynn ?[/quote]

What part of my post does this apply to G1?

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1275038]What part of my post does this apply to G1?[/quote]

He( is a dickfuck) was given a job he did not deserve . I guess that could cover any appointee by trump ,almost.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1274934]Chico you are pissing in the wind at this point. The media will cover for Biden and the Dems to the nth degree. Pointing out the lies is useless. The policy of mass hysteria has won the day, so you need to just set aside the ideas you felt relevant and accept.

Resistance is futile.

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The media isn't covering for Biden , that's conservative BS .Whaaaaaaaaa the media , whaaaaa the media . The media is reporting what is being given out and republicans aren't use to having truthful and honest facts come from the WH . We get it , without trump you three amigos can't use the alternative facts playbook trump was using, sucks huh?

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[quote=mooby;1275016]Right, this is the true embarrassment, not the last 4+ years.

I see the Republican party platform of doom and gloom with Dems in charge is alive and well.

Hate to say it Chico but I'm gonna be tuning you out if you only post to remind us why Trump was the savior this country needed.[/quote]

No, you will have to talk policy as I’ll continue to bring up ACTUAL trump administration policies that were successful while pointing out the failures of the past Obama-Biden policies and watch these failures implemented again.

Sorry, simply crying about unproven Russian/taxes hoaxes and mean tweets wasn’t what happened the past 4 years.

I’m getting the record unemployment numbers together now especially [B]pointing out record Hispanic and black unemployment lows that the Trump administration achieved.[/B]

There is simply zero excuse Biden-Harris can’t do the same. Zero excuse, let’s see if Biden can beat those numbers.

In context April 2020 coronavirus unemployment rate 14.7...December 6.7%. That’s quite a swing...6.7 is not a crisis so many are talking about in the media that Biden’s been handed. In fact it’s eye rolling bs.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275051]No, you will have to talk policy as I’ll continue to bring up ACTUAL trump administration policies that were successful while pointing out the failures of the past Obama-Biden policies and watch these failures implemented again.

Sorry, simply crying about unproven Russian/taxes hoaxes and mean tweets wasn’t what happened the past 4 years.

I’m getting the record unemployment numbers together now especially [B]pointing record Hispanic and black unemployment lows that the Trump administration achieved.[/B]

There is simply zero excuse Biden-Harris can’t do the same. Zero excuse, let’s see if Biden can beat those numbers[/quote]
During a "[B]pandemic"[/B] ? If people expected that of trump you would be screaming .......... Fake media,fake media!!!

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[quote=Chico23231;1275051]

Sorry, simply crying about unproven Russian/taxes hoaxes and mean tweets wasn’t what happened the past 4 years.

[/quote]

This is where you're losing people and credibility chico, you need to stop.

It was proven , it's all been proven . Mueller's Investigation and the pending charges in New York attest to that.

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[quote=Giantone;1275053]During a "[B]pandemic"[/B] ? If people expected that of trump you would be screaming .......... Fake media,fake media!!![/quote]

Trump unemployment score card versus the pandemic:

Trump got 14.7 unemployment April 2020 to 6.7 December 2020 in 9 month. That’s straight up gangster.

9 months...dude

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[quote=Chico23231;1275051]No, you will have to talk policy as I’ll continue to bring up ACTUAL trump administration policies that were successful while pointing out the failures of the past Obama-Biden policies and watch these failures implemented again.

Sorry, simply crying about unproven Russian/taxes hoaxes and mean tweets wasn’t what happened the past 4 years.

I’m getting the record unemployment numbers together now especially [B]pointing out record Hispanic and black unemployment lows that the Trump administration achieved.[/B]

There is simply zero excuse Biden-Harris can’t do the same. Zero excuse, let’s see if Biden can beat those numbers.

In context April 2020 coronavirus unemployment rate 14.7...December 6.7%. That’s quite a swing...6.7 is not a crisis so many are talking about in the media that Biden’s been handed. In fact it’s eye rolling bs.[/quote]

Read it again g1

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[quote=Chico23231;1275055]Trump got 14.7 unemployment to 6.7 in 9 month. That’s straight up gangster.

9 months...dude[/quote]

Thank You Obama.:thumbsup:

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[quote=Giantone;1275054]This is where you're losing people and credibility chico, you need to stop.

It was proven , [B]it's all been proven[/B] . Mueller's Investigation and the pending charges in New York attest to that.[/quote]

Lol...I mean it’s easy to see

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[quote=Chico23231;1275056]Read it again g1[/quote]

LOL, he kicked the Hispanics out of the Country . Again thanks Obama.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275058]Lol...I mean it’s easy to see[/quote]

To real Americans ,yes , to the trump sheep not as much.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1274936]Calling in the national guard when it wasn’t needed and then treating them like homeless in parking garages. Typical



There were riots and demonstrations when trump was inaugurated...but that was fine somehow[/QUOTE]



Wasn’t necessary because they were there. Funny how that works. The extreme right is far more dangerous than the extreme left. Until you accept that reality you really need to stop making political posts.

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[quote=Giantone;1275039]He( is a dickfuck) was given a job he did not deserve . I guess that could cover any appointee by trump ,almost.[/quote]

Word.

So many people came and went during his administration, it's hard for me to keep track. You're probably right about him. He just blends in with the rest, it's hard for me to remember what people I legitimately didn't like.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275051]No, you will have to talk policy as I’ll continue to bring up ACTUAL trump administration policies that were successful while pointing out the failures of the past Obama-Biden policies and watch these failures implemented again.

Sorry, simply crying about unproven Russian/taxes hoaxes and mean tweets wasn’t what happened the past 4 years.

I’m getting the record unemployment numbers together now especially [B]pointing out record Hispanic and black unemployment lows that the Trump administration achieved.[/B]

There is simply zero excuse Biden-Harris can’t do the same. Zero excuse, let’s see if Biden can beat those numbers.

In context April 2020 coronavirus unemployment rate 14.7...December 6.7%. That’s quite a swing...6.7 is not a crisis so many are talking about in the media that Biden’s been handed. In fact it’s eye rolling bs.[/quote]

And here I thought we had a general consensus to move on from talking about Cheeto Mussolini once he was out of office, but you clearly are upset the only time we want to talk about Trump is when we're discussing how he literally pondered overturning the results of the election. If you can't concede the election was fair and his attempts to overthrow a democratically elected president are more important than anything he ever did in 4 years then we're done here. Good luck finding someone to engage in civil conversation with you.

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[quote=mooby;1275092]And here I thought we had a general consensus to move on from talking about Cheeto Mussolini once he was out of office, but you clearly are upset the only time we want to talk about Trump is when we're discussing how he literally pondered overturning the results of the election. If you can't concede the election was fair and his attempts to overthrow a democratically elected president are more important than anything he ever did in 4 years then we're done here. Good luck finding someone to engage in civil conversation with you.[/quote]

Ha! Mooby, you still think he colluded with Russia....:laughing2

😂

Are you willing to concede he won the 2016 election and it was fair?

Man this is too funny. Remember what Hillary said in October, under no circumstances should Biden concede? And every lib agreed.

Seriously tho, after the political theater and we get to results and accomplishments, if trump would have simply stayed on message and not acted insane (tough ask) he probably woulda won.

The most important thing is policy and strategy...if you look at the trump administration they actually did a lot of concrete, positive things. Not perfect and unfortunately Democrats filibustered some other positive legislation like a second covid package and police reform in which durbin called Tim Scott a token black...but you can be racist and anti Semitic when your a democrat, that’s acceptable.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275105]Ha! Mooby, you still think he colluded with Russia....:laughing2

😂

Are you willing to concede he won the 2016 election and it was fair?

Man this is too funny. Remember what Hillary said in October, under no circumstances should Biden concede? And every lib agreed.

Seriously tho, after the political theater and we get to results and accomplishments, if trump would have simply stayed on message and not acted insane (tough ask) he probably woulda won.

The most important thing is policy and strategy...if you look at the trump administration they actually did a lot of concrete, positive things. Not perfect and unfortunately Democrats filibustered some other positive legislation like a second covid package and police reform in which durbin called Tim Scott a token black...but you can be racist and anti Semitic when your a democrat, that’s acceptable.[/quote]

chico stop , you look foolish.

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[quote=mooby;1275092]And here I thought we had a general consensus to move on from talking about Cheeto Mussolini once he was out of office, but you clearly are upset the only time we want to talk about Trump is when we're discussing how he literally pondered overturning the results of the election. If you can't concede the election was fair and his attempts to overthrow a democratically elected president are more important than anything he ever did in 4 years then we're done here. Good luck finding someone to engage in civil conversation with you.[/quote]

he is as sick as trump . He's not smart enough to understand trump isn't president.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275105]Ha! Mooby, you still think he colluded with Russia....:laughing2

😂

[B]Are you willing to concede he won the 2016 election and it was fair[/B]?

Man this is too funny. Remember what Hillary said in October, under no circumstances should Biden concede? And every lib agreed.

Seriously tho, after the political theater and we get to results and accomplishments, if trump would have simply stayed on message and not acted insane (tough ask) he probably woulda won.

The most important thing is policy and strategy...if you look at the trump administration they actually did a lot of concrete, positive things. Not perfect and unfortunately Democrats filibustered some other positive legislation like a second covid package and police reform in which durbin called Tim Scott a token black...but you can be racist and anti Semitic when your a democrat, that’s acceptable.[/quote]

LOLOLOLOL

Alright you got me. Stop twisting my arm, I'll concede Trump won the 2016 election. I know, I know, I kept harping on for years after the fact that the only way he could've won is by fraud because there's literally no way 60 million Americans could vote for a turd sandwich. But I concede in the interest of unity.

^

See how easy that shit was Chico? Now your turn!

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[quote=mooby;1275140]LOLOLOLOL

Alright you got me. Stop twisting my arm, I'll concede Trump won the 2016 election. I know, I know, I kept harping on for years after the fact that the only way he could've won is by fraud because there's literally no way 60 million Americans could vote for a turd sandwich. But I concede in the interest of unity.

^

See how easy that shit was Chico? Now your turn![/quote]

See that's were chico can't differentiate. Collusion ,no, russian interference , yes. Thing is trump sheep don't realize he is now gone. Yes, you're the bigger person but that's wasted on chico.

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Talks between Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell and Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer are stalled over a power-sharing agreement on how the Senate will run with 50 senators in each caucus but Vice President Harris giving Democrats a slight edge.

Such an agreement is not unprecedented. There was a 50-50 Senate at the beginning of the George W. Bush administration, and the two parties put together a deal, which McConnell, R-Ky., and Schumer, D-N.Y., are using as a template for their current talks.

The deal would govern the number of senators from each party on committees, likely would allow bills to get to the Senate floor even on evenly-split votes in committee and may even give McConnell some rights on the Senate floor that he wouldn't otherwise have if Democrats had 51 senators.

But the hangup, apparent in public comments from the two senators, is a request from McConnell for assurances that Democrats will not get rid of the legislative filibuster -- the requirement that bills clear a 60-vote procedural hurdle before a final up-or-down vote -- during the upcoming Congress.
[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcconnell-schumer-spar-over-power-sharing-as-disagreement-over-filibuster-hamstrings-talks[/url]

roles reversed .... McConnell would never have his republicans sign a pledge bc democrats asked them to.

just change the law so it requires 60 votes instead of 50 to abolish the legislative filibuster and take the nuclear button away from both parties.

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One of former President Trump’s top supporters in the House of Representatives is targeting one of Trump’s biggest House GOP critics.

GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida is heading to House Republican Conference Chair Liz Cheney’s home state of Wyoming on Thursday, where he’ll hold an event outside the state capitol in Cheyenne.

[url]https://www.foxnews.com/politics/gaetz-traveling-to-wyoming-to-take-aim-at-cheney-amid-uproar-over-her-trump-impeachment-vote[/url]

There are some real fringe weird personalities in the House (both sides). In solid red or blue districts .. a kkk grand wizard could win a red district and louis farrakhan could win a blue district.

Why are you traveling to protest or campaign AGAINST a fellow house republican in her state of Wyoming when you represent a district in pan handle Florida? Any re-election against Cheney is a year or two at earliest.

Gaetz is volatile.

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Glad Biden is getting Trannys in the military. Seems important and completely normal

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[quote=Chico23231;1275474]Glad Biden is getting Trannys in the military. Seems important and completely normal[/quote]

Trannies were already in the military before 2017, way to make a big deal out of nothing. If military leaders don't have a problem with it neither do I.

Do you also have a problem with gay guys in the locker room? The same principle applies, who gives a shit as long as they can do the job.

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Tranny rights are just setting up the precedent for AI rights.

its coming.

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[quote=mooby;1275478]Trannies were already in the military before 2017, way to make a big deal out of nothing. If military leaders don't have a problem with it neither do I.

Do you also have a problem with gay guys in the locker room? The same principle applies, who gives a shit as long as they can do the job.[/quote]

Strawman...it’s not close to being the same

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Anyone that wants to serve should have the right.

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They were already serving we were just putting our heads in the sand thinking they are magically going to pop up now in 2021. Now they can just be themselves. No big deal.

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[quote=Chico23231;1275485]Strawman...it’s not close to being the same[/quote]

This low-effort shitpost is embarrassing Chico. Why even say anything if you can't come close to a real reason transgender troops shouldn't be allowed to serve?

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Republicans need to court all members of our society, and stop with the identity politics in the armed forces.

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Vote yes on everything, eventually you'll find they're coming for you next, by that time it's too late.

Always support limited government.

Big government has us 20+ TRILLION in debt.

Massive federal government screws all of us. And this was proven true before Trump, and Obama too.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1275519]Republicans need to court all members of our society, and stop with the identity politics in the armed forces.

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I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't!

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1275537]I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't![/quote]
LOL, the three of you are exactly what trump was looking for .

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1275537]I'd submit:

All Americans should have honest conversations about politics, identity politics, etc.

When do liberals ever have to uniformly admit that people might disagree with them on anything?

Conservatives get shamed into all of the apologizing. And if we don't, we should apologize for not understanding why we should apologize.

What happens if the people that lead our military members say that "x" group does in-fact effect the rest of the groups? Does anyone think that vote matters? It doesn't![/quote]

1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit. It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.

Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.

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[quote=Giantone;1275539]LOL, the three of you are exactly what trump was looking for .[/quote]

Say anything G1 doesn't like, G1 immediately Trump shames you. He isn't president anymore. I moved on in November. These type comments have zero meaning to me. You do you baby!

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[quote=SunnySide;1275549]1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

[B]Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit.[/B] It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

[B]You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.[/B]

[B]Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"[/B]

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.[/quote]

A lot to unpack here if I had all day to respond piece by piece.

Commenting on it is not the same as "whoaing" over it. Didn't say liberals weren't called names.

I literally said "we", as in including myself, when talking about conservatives, you even commented on it.

Then at the end of your post, you accuse me of saying that I use being a libertarian to pretend like I'm smarter than anyone and talking everyone about everyone from my glass house. Is SunnySide having cake and eating it too? I am not smarter than anyone here. I'm conservative 1st and libertarian 2nd.

I can't be? Lol. Yes sir. Thanks for clarifying for me what I can think. I'll re-register again asap. I'll have to register as independent or create my own party then, so I can think freely for myself.

I never said I'm against anyone being in the military. I merely referenced that even if 100% of all military leaders past and present were against any group being in the military, democrats would still force it anyways, if it was part of their voting block/strategy.

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[quote=mooby;1275517]This low-effort shitpost is embarrassing Chico. Why even say anything if you can't come close to a real reason transgender troops shouldn't be allowed to serve?[/quote]

Definitely a strawman, don’t get mad when I point it out.

As a separate issue, people who fight science and/or science deniers are clowns especially when it comes to biological sex. Conservatives didn’t create the only X and Y chromosomes to own libs...yet some see it that way.

This is the concern

To maintain a military force that is worldwide deployable and combat effective, the military must set high standards, and all military members must sacrifice to meet these standards. In fact, just over 70 percent of prime military-age Americans cannot meet the military's standards.

Anyone who meets military standards without special accommodations can and should be able to serve — this includes transgender persons.

Persons with a history of gender dysphoria — a serious medical condition — and who have undergone certain medical treatment for gender dysphoria, such as cross-sex hormone therapy or sex reassignment surgery, or are unwilling or unable to meet the standards associated with their biological sex, could adversely impact unit readiness and combat effectiveness.


It’s not about the person but team...like ball.

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"the smarter than everyone else" .. is probably weak projection from me and not about you, more reflective of my own views and issues of the libertarian party. I am a bitter ex libertarian. I apologize for that. Biggest reason was people picking and choosing when to wear the "libertarian" hat and the neo conservative take over followed by the libertarian party going from personal choice to "states rights" on abortion so they didnt turn away all the attention they were getting from neo conservatives bc libertarian party wants numbers more than anything.

I stand by the military report thing though. google the issue. you do accuse us of the exact thing you have apparently done. ignored reports that dont fit your predisposed view.

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[quote=SunnySide;1275549]1. The whoa is me conservative thing ... im going to be mean .. but get over yourself. Like democrats arent called China loving, socialist traitor racist baiters. Yet were called the snow flakes.

Everyone is called something. Conservatives need to drop the victim mentality, whoa is me shit. It makes you look weak. if I was a conservative I would stop worrying about what some whack job like Kathy Griffin might say about me. I certainly dont give two shits about what some dumb ass like Kid Rock thinks about me or democrats.

2. What would you say if military reports and top brass HAVE ALREADY SAID having LGBT in the military doesnt effect performance? Do you think if there was report after report done all coming to the same conclusion it doesnt .. would Trump and apparently you completely ignore the fact that study and reports have already be done on this?

You hypothetically accuse democrats that we would ignore reports if it said it would effect military performance ... but completely overlook the fact that YOU YOURSELF in the real world and not in some hypothetical have done what you would accuse us of.

Why do you care if gay or transgender people are in the military. Youre not in the military so how does it effect you?

Very "libertarian" of you by the way ... to impose your personal view points on others. Restricting other people that in no way infringe upon your own personal life. Conservatives have distorted the libertarian party by picking and choosing what libertarian policies they like while ignoring others. They think screaming "limited government!" doesnt mean no borders, no immigration laws, no rules keeping gays out of military, woman has right to choose. But yall hear "limited government" and come running over like a herd of cattle responding to a cattle call.

It means limited government and personal freedom in all things for all people .... not just the social policies you happen to agree with. Its not a salad bar you get to pick and choose from.

You cant be libertarian and be against open borders. FYI ... its like one of the foundational pillars of libertarian .. every person is a free person unto themselves. You cant be libertarian and be for rules restricting rights of any person including LGBT and immigrants etc .. bc libertarians see every person as a person with the same rights as you.

Yeah ... libertarian .. its harder than you think but so easy to say "hey im a libertarian, Im above the republican and democrat infighting because you all are the same people but not me, im smarter ... Im a libertarian!"

/asshole rant over .. sorry had to get that off my chest. i feel better.[/quote]

People who don’t recognize China as an evil, totalitarian government which is responsible for the coronavirus, a current genocide, imposing slavery and have active concentration camps are simply pieces of shit.

If Biden goes soft on China he is a piece of shit and a lying hypocrite. Own it.

Do you support a weak policy on China?

I’m blown away that supposed woke mfer’s would actually think current slavery is fine...it’s hypocrisy at its zenith.

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[quote=SunnySide;1275563]"the smarter than everyone else" .. is probably weak projection from me and not about you, more reflective of my own views and issues of the libertarian party. I am a bitter ex libertarian. I apologize for that. Biggest reason was people picking and choosing when to wear the "libertarian" hat and the neo conservative take over followed by the libertarian party going from personal choice to "states rights" on abortion so they didnt turn away all the attention they were getting from neo conservatives bc libertarian party wants numbers more than anything.

I stand by the military report thing though. google the issue. you do accuse us of the exact thing you have apparently done. ignored reports that dont fit your predisposed view.[/quote]

I get that. The libertarian party is not 100% in line with all of my beliefs, but it's closer than republican or democrat at this time. Definitely when it comes to military intervention. Never going to match up perfectly if you are registered under any party.

The whole country would probably be better if there were no parties and we were all "registered" as independents.

I didn't specifically name any group or say that anyone shouldn't be in the military. I made a blanket statement (not that that's better) about it, even if reports said the exact opposite, I don't believe it would matter. Anyone that serves in the military has more guts than me, and I salute them 100%.