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[quote=SkinzWin;1279300]What do you do when Mac Jones is there at 19 starring you in the face?![/quote]

Stick to your board. I suspect most teams will have him graded 2nd round or later due to arm strength issues, but you only need one team grading him higher. I would rather be patient. I'm drafting a QB 1st round I want Jones character and IQ, but also better arm strength, and I really like Jones. Heinecke is in essence a poor man's Jones anyway, checks boxes except size arm strength. REALLY limits you long term when QB has to have clean pocket and perfect mechanics to deliver long balls because of arm strength limitations.

In a draft deep at CB and LT, you could find a long-term CB1 or franchise LT and fill one of 5 high leverage positions for the long term. We now have gaping hole at CB. I generally favor building trenches first so would go LT with pick if a franchise PASS BLOCKING LT is sitting there.

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A franchise pass blocking LT generally is gone by 10. That said, if one is there yes take him, or franchise level LB if JDR/RR thinks their guy is sitting there.

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Looking ahead: Washington still wants to sign a receiver and two names need to be watched -- Curtis Samuel and Marvin Jones. Washington tried to trade for Samuel last season. Both offer speed. Also, Washington wants to be mindful of Terry McLaurin's next contract when signing another receiver. If it breaks the bank on a receiver now, it could make it harder to retain McLaurin in the future. It also will look at tight ends. Gerald Everett is available; he fits what they desire (vertical threat).

KEIM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1279347]Looking ahead: Washington still wants to sign a receiver and two names need to be watched -- Curtis Samuel and Marvin Jones. Washington tried to trade for Samuel last season. Both offer speed. Also, Washington wants to be mindful of Terry McLaurin's next contract when signing another receiver. If it breaks the bank on a receiver now, it could make it harder to retain McLaurin in the future. It also will look at tight ends. Gerald Everett is available; he fits what they desire (vertical threat).

KEIM[/quote]

Sounds very logical.. I didn't realize we tried to trade for Samuel last year. If we sign Marvin Jones then we probably would need to find a replacement next year or 2 years later so I'm not fan of this part but wouldn't complain if we signed him.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1279313]A franchise pass blocking LT generally is gone by 10. That said, if one is there yes take him, or franchise level LB if JDR/RR thinks their guy is sitting there.

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Generally, yes. But it is a very deep draft at QB and LT. With 4-5 QBs possibly going before we pick, and plenty of quality LTs, we could get at 19 what we might not other years, a franchise LT. Do you take a good LB over a LT? I would say no, all else being equal build trenches first, but I think we have two holes now at LB and RR really wants thumper in middle.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1279347]Looking ahead: Washington still wants to sign a receiver and two names need to be watched -- Curtis Samuel and Marvin Jones. [B]Washington tried to trade for Samuel last season[/B]. Both offer speed. Also, Washington wants to be mindful of Terry McLaurin's next contract when signing another receiver. If it breaks the bank on a receiver now, it could make it harder to retain McLaurin in the future. It also will look at tight ends. Gerald Everett is available; he fits what they desire (vertical threat).

KEIM[/quote]

What’s that?


Everett and one of these two...or both would big an ideal haul to improve playmaking ability on offense.

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[quote=Chico23231;1279352]What’s that?


Everett and one of these two...or both would big an ideal haul to improve playmaking ability on offense.[/quote]

You give Fitz the following:

Terry
AG24
J.D M
Samuel
Thomas
Everett

That's a damn good offense

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Agreed, but as long as we can draft OL starters to give him time to find those weapons. And LB (and CB?) starters to stop the D backsliding. I'd now be looking to what we could get in FA to bolster LB and CB, at least for depth so we can draft 1-2 potential D starters.

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[quote=SkinzWin;1279300]What do you do when Mac Jones is there at 19 starring you in the face?![/quote]

1. Sell to the highest bidder.

2. Draft. Will need a QB next season.

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If Mac Jones is there at 19 I'd let him slip another 19 spots and then pass over him again

If a supposed top QB makes it out of the top 10 he's probably not a real top QB

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[quote=MTK;1279378]If Mac Jones is there at 19 I'd let him slip another 19 spots and then pass over him again

If a supposed top QB makes it out of the top 10 he's probably not a real top QB[/quote]

Aaron Rodgers and Watson will disagree lol but I see what u are saying.

I don't think they will draft a QB in the 1st now.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1279365]You give Fitz the following:



Terry

AG24

J.D M

Samuel

Thomas

Everett



That's a damn good offense[/QUOTE]



Maybe compared to last years offense. Lol. I am completely not sold on Gibson being our main back. Our o line still needs help too.

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[quote=punch it in;1279398]Maybe compared to last years offense. Lol. I am completely [B]not sold on Gibson being our main back[/B]. Our o line still needs help too.[/quote]

How come?

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[quote=MTK;1279378]If Mac Jones is there at 19 I'd let him slip another 19 spots and then pass over him again

If a supposed top QB makes it out of the top 10 he's probably not a real top QB[/quote]

like Aaron Rodgers?

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[quote=MTK;1279378]If Mac Jones is there at 19 I'd let him slip another 19 spots and then pass over him again

If a supposed top QB makes it out of the top 10 he's probably not a real top QB[/quote]

I don't follow the draft or college much so this post could be completely factually wrong and fake news. But I first saw Jones in a December game, and thought he might be good at 19. At that time it seemed like that was his positioning on draft boards, and then in short order he started creeping up into the top 10 in front of 1 or 2 other guys (Lance for 1). I think his natural spot is New England at 15ish though.

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[quote=SkinsGuru;1279412]like Aaron Rodgers?[/quote]

Of course there are always exceptions but Mac Jones isn't Rodgers lol

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[quote=punch it in;1279398]Maybe compared to last years offense. Lol. I am completely not sold on Gibson being our main back. Our o line still needs help too.[/quote]

OK, Draft Najee Harris from Alabama and move Gibson back to WR. :D

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[QUOTE=GridIron26;1279405]How come?[/QUOTE]



Simply haven’t seen enough. Showed flashes. Maybe durability.

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[quote=punch it in;1279434]Simply haven’t seen enough. Showed flashes. Maybe durability.[/quote]

First full year playing RB, I think he did pretty well and will only get better

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[quote=MTK;1279437]First full year playing RB, I think he did pretty well and will only get better[/quote]

I also think he did well given how much teams focused on our running game and were not at all concerned about our passing game.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1279438]I also think he did well given how much teams focused on our running game and were not at all concerned about our passing game.[/quote]

He showed more than enough to give him another go this year

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[quote=punch it in;1279398]Maybe compared to last years offense. Lol. I am completely not sold on Gibson being our main back. Our o line still needs help too.[/quote]

10 starts
1000+ yards from scrimmage (795 rushing)
11 TDs

For someone who was basically a receiver in college, that's not too shabby.

I think we're in good hands at RB, but it's never a bad idea to add a complementary piece or two.

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One thing about the Oline...I’m always down to give it attention. But center to right tackle is locked down in stone. Solid there.

The front office did well in attaining both Lucas and Schweitzer in Free agency who contributed on the left side and did better than expected. Add in Ismel and Charles in draft, young prospects who got some experience. Christian is a swing tackle...

We aren’t in bad shape, but obtaining another Tackle in the draft wouldn’t be a bad thing...but I’m not worried with Schreff locked in.

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[quote=Chico23231;1279447]One thing about the Oline...I’m always down to give it attention. But center to right tackle is locked down in stone. Solid there.

The front office did well in attaining both Lucas and Schweitzer in Free agency who contributed on the left side and did better than expected. Add in Ismel and Charles in draft, young prospects who got some experience. Christian is a swing tackle...

We aren’t in bad shape, [B]but obtaining another Tackle in the draft wouldn’t be a bad thing[B]...but I’m not worried with Schreff locked in.[/quote]

I agree. LT is our weak link on the O-Line. I’d prioritize adding a Tackle at 19 or Day 2. Sign a WR, then draft BPA at #19 (OT, CB, LB)

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[url]https://nfltraderumors.co/washington-has-inquired-with-lb-nicholas-morrow/[/url]

Might be a very nice under the radar pickup.

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1279440]10 starts

1000+ yards from scrimmage (795 rushing)

11 TDs



For someone who was basically a receiver in college, that's not too shabby.



I think we're in good hands at RB, but it's never a bad idea to add a complementary piece or two.[/QUOTE]



I really like AG no doubt but we never had a true consistent run game that moved the sticks or at the very least set us up for third and shorts. Gibson isn’t the problem but there is a problem there. Scheme? Oline? Another back to pair with AG? All three? Needs to be addressed. It will help the pass game. Teams just didn’t respect our run game at all last year.
AG could be an incredible weapon but we need to help him. Need some thunder with that lightning.

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[quote=punch it in;1279468]I really like AG no doubt but we never had a true consistent run game that moved the sticks or at the very least set us up for third and shorts. Gibson isn’t the problem but there is a problem there. Scheme? Oline? Another back to pair with AG? All three? Needs to be addressed. It will help the pass game. Teams just didn’t respect our run game at all last year.
AG could be an incredible weapon but we need to help him. Need some thunder with that lightning.[/quote]


Could it be a very inconsistent passing game made it easier to play the run?

Consistency with the running game would be nice. I hope with a bolstered WR corp, and another TE to go with Thomas, we may suddenly find it easier to find running lanes.

Time will tell, I suppose.

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CB William Jackson

WFT giving William Jackson a three-year, $42 million deal, per source.

Schefty

I’ll take him over Shaquille Griffin and Darby

Corner taken care of, next

Looking for a WR, Tre Boston FS and a TE. LB and RB will work too

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I like it too

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[quote=Chico23231;1279503]CB William Jackson

WFT giving William Jackson a three-year, $42 million deal, per source.

Schefty

I’ll take him over Shaquille Griffin and Darby

Corner taken care of next[/quote]

Quite possibly the best CB on the market this offseason.

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Solid signing. An upgrade over Darby

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1279505]Quite possibly the best CB on the market this offseason.[/quote]

Solid Corner who is more a #1 than Fuller. We have 2 good tackling, physical corners...plus Moreland who is a good tackler especially round los in the slot.

Sound pick up

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Hole created, hole filled. Besides missing his rookie year, he has been very durable. Always good to see.

Not too familiar with him. I remembered him from Houston after looking him up.

He's got good size.

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Jackson is our CB1 for sure. Had a dominant 2017 where he had a 90 overall grade. He’s been consistent every year

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1279508]Hole created, hole filled. Besides missing his rookie year, he has been very durable. Always good to see.

Not too familiar with him. I remembered him from Houston after looking him up.

He's got good size.[/quote]

Love filling holes

Our new CB1 gonna feast...he never played with a dline in front of him like this

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[quote=Chico23231;1279513]Love filling holes

Our new CB1 gonna feast...he never played with a dline in front of him like this[/quote]

Jelly or creme filling preference?

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Jackson Signing
 

B grade. First, not signing Darby was the right choice. I wouldn't have paid him $8M a year, much less $10M+. He is still a massive injury risk and he got toasted WAYYYYYYYYY too much last year against better teams. Remember all those receivers sprinting open through our secondary like it was a combine passing drill? Yes, LB and safety part of problem, but so was CB. FO got it right not bidding high for Darby. That being said, his departure leaves a gaping hole at CB, and honestly we could draft one first three rounds after this signing in a deep CB draft and still not be drowning in talent at position. Fuller is best as a slot CB. Hopefully we draft a 3rd starting caliber CB in draft and let Fuller play slot. Also, given that we now have $24M spent at CB, we really can't afford any more big signings so need to look to draft for one more solid CB.

I have always preferred true cover corners to press corners, ala Darrell Green. If you're going to rely on slower press corners, you need an Earl Thomas at FS (FS is still only position on roster we have NOTHING), and even then, such players often get beat in critical man situations (see Richard Sherman). Jackson was one of better CBs in FA, in what was admittedly an uninspiring CB class. He is a pure man cover corner with decent size and good speed. Most knowledgeable observers would say he is one of top-10 man cover corners in NFL. He is a guy you can put on #1 receivers. He probably signed here for short deal because teams not paying huge money in FA this year as much, especially given deep draft at CB, and figures he'll put up mind blowing stats behind our DL opposite Fuller and get one more big payday at 30 or 31. He is very slight of build as man corners often are, is not a thumper when tackling, is not durable, nor is he truly elite (though our DL should make him look much better), and price paid is fair. Not signing him to longer deal when he will be 30 and because of injury risk is smart. He is a pure cover guy who can stay with receivers step for step and has good instincts when ball in air. Some see Jackson as one of better CBs in FA and call this a great deal because we got one of better CBs available, but it is just a good deal because not many good CBs were/are available in FA. Top corners make $20M or so, and Jackson is now one of top-ten paid corners in NFL approximate, on lower end. This was a fair deal, neither an egregious overpay, nor a bargain. I like signing a better pure man corner for a few million a year more rather than signing a lesser player cheaper. We needed a true #1 CB and signed one. We now have 2 CBs making top-20 money at the position, they'd better perform like it. Better teams fill high-leverage positions with drafted players, you can't sign high-priced FAs at CB,LT,QB,WR,DE, etc. As of now, we have a drafted WR and DE, and big-money FAs at QB and CB. Hopefully we draft a CB, LT, etc. in draft. Overall, we paid a corner which is usually ranked top 15-25 in CBs in NFL, top-10 money at the position. That's free agency, you always overpay for better players, but we couldn't leave gaping hole at CB1. A solid B signing.

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[quote=Chico23231;1279447]One thing about the Oline...I’m always down to give it attention. But center to right tackle is locked down in stone. Solid there.

The front office did well in attaining both Lucas and Schweitzer in Free agency who contributed on the left side and did better than expected. Add in Ismel and Charles in draft, young prospects who got some experience. Christian is a swing tackle...

We aren’t in bad shape, but obtaining another Tackle in the draft wouldn’t be a bad thing...but I’m not worried with Schreff locked in.[/quote]

Christian is a grocery bagger. Charles is hopefully a swing tackle. Yes, obtaining a true franchise LT would be sensible. Lucas is great value, but not elite, you would like an elite player at LT guarding blindside. Moses is rolling up on 30. . .