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Just got a text from Marjorie Taylor Greene asking for 15 bucks to get rid of Maxine Waters.

I'll pitch in 30 if you both leave lol.

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[quote=MTK;1282101]JFC what an idiot

[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rick-santorum-says-there-isn-t-much-native-american-culture-n1265407"]Rick Santorum says 'there isn't much Native American culture in American culture'[/URL]

Santorum, 62, a Republican from Pennsylvania who served in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 and is now a CNN commentator, said there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."[/quote]

This would set Native American-regular American relations back quite a bit if there was any room for them to get any worse. As it is we basically pretend like they don't exist.

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[quote=MTK;1282101]JFC what an idiot

[URL="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rick-santorum-says-there-isn-t-much-native-american-culture-n1265407"]Rick Santorum says 'there isn't much Native American culture in American culture'[/URL]

Santorum, 62, a Republican from Pennsylvania who served in the Senate from 1995 to 2007 and is now a CNN commentator, said there was "nothing here" before European settlers arrived.

"We came here and created a blank slate," Santorum said. "We birthed a nation from nothing. I mean, there was nothing here. I mean, yes we have Native Americans, but candidly there isn't much Native American culture in American culture."[/quote]

I like Rick Santorum.

But I don't understand why he made this comment. It's not necessarily racist, he didn't say Native Americans deserved to die. But at best, it's just fucking stupid.

I would say ignorant, but he's 62 and well aware of our country's history. So this comment isn't out of not knowing.

What would make anyone say something like that? You can love our country, while admitting our flaws, and honestly discussing our history. Not mutually exclusive.

Note - You can like people and not agree with all of their opinions. Also not mutually exclusive. Face to face, this is easier to know it's true. Little trickier online, because voice inflection and context are extremely important.

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[quote=mooby;1281961][url]https://www.huffpost.com/entry/larry-kudlow-plant-based-beer-joe-biden_n_6084b41ae4b0ccb91c24f815[/url]

Top Trump economic advisor Larry Kudlow says the Green New Deal is gonna make us drink plant-based beer, as opposed to our delicious meat-based beers we enjoy today.

Other than that one gaffe he does a great job of selling fear. No doubt the base will eat that shit up.[/quote]

Make burgers great again! You can't take away our red meat!

So much face palm here

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^^^^^

[IMG]https://i.imgflip.com/57ll0j.jpg[/IMG]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1282319]Make burgers great again! You can't take away our red meat!



So much face palm here[/QUOTE]



He hired only the best and smartest people! What a fuckin idiot. That goes for his ENTIRE base. Cus ya just gotta be to fall for this shit. Lock em all up and throw away the key.

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Larry kudrow with a funny, poor talking point about red meat, climate change plans, etc.

He got properly roasted...

But to act like the GOP is making this point up...no. Let’s review to articles coming and at stating the red meat industry must be regulated do to climate change:

[url]https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2021/4/26/22403599/biden-red-meat-ban-burger-kudlow[/url]

“At first blush, this is yet another instance of a fake outrage cycle in the right-wing echo chamber pegged to a lie. But there’s something more distressing here too — it’s the latest example of how efforts to curb the climate crisis and our reliance on meat are becoming just the latest flashpoints in our all-consuming culture wars.”

Washington post

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/04/26/biden-climate-beef-ban/[/url]

Scientists say red meat industry should be on chopping block.


Let’s talk the progressives green new deal a couple years ago:

[url]https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/07/green-new-deal-clean-meat-hamburger[/url]

[B]So I’m glad everyone here agrees we are 1000% not regulating the red meat industry in any shape form or fashions when it’s comes to bullshit climate policy.[/B]

Good to know

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I love how the media spin has gone from climate change to climate crisis. Why, because the media and left found it much easier to control people through a crisis then an innocuous change.

We are now in crisis, all hail Caesar.

Note this is exactly how Orwellian speak began.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1282350]I love how the media spin has gone from climate change to climate crisis. Why, because the media and left found it much easier to control people through a crisis then an innocuous change.

We are now in crisis, all hail Caesar.

Note this is exactly how Orwellian speak began.

Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk[/quote]

25 years ago it was consistently cold in northern VA from November-April and we got snow every winter.

Now? It's setting records for 90 degrees in May and 70 degree off-and-on days in January. And we're lucky if we see one good snowfall a year.

Don't tell me the climate is doing fine. Stick your mouth on a tailpipe and tell me the quality of the air coming out is good to go.

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Arguing about politics on draft day...

[IMG]http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rgJv_zxFlk4/Vgr8KcVoRoI/AAAAAAAAUIU/Jp4zY4Yat6I/s1600/putting-gun-to-head.gif[/IMG]

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No comments about Biden's or Scott's speeches??? It must be draft day.

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[quote=mooby;1282351]25 years ago it was consistently cold in northern VA from November-April and we got snow every winter.

Now? It's setting records for 90 degrees in May and 70 degree off-and-on days in January. And we're lucky if we see one good snowfall a year.

Don't tell me the climate is doing fine. Stick your mouth on a tailpipe and tell me the quality of the air coming out is good to go.[/quote]

:laughing-

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[quote=nonniey;1282361]No comments about Biden's or Scott's speeches??? It must be draft day.[/quote]

Racism by progressives on social media last night was amazing when Scott was speaking. Somehow that is perfectly a ok by Democrats and is never called out.

No stories in the media about it today

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[quote=Chico23231;1282443]Racism by progressives on social media last night was amazing when Scott was speaking. Somehow that is perfectly a ok by Democrats and is never called out.

No stories in the media about it today[/quote]

Tim Scott is proof you can pay somebody top dollar and they'll say anything you want.

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[quote=mooby;1282454]Tim Scott is proof you can pay somebody top dollar and they'll say anything you want.[/quote]

Man, this post is something.

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[quote=mooby;1282454]Tim Scott is proof you can pay somebody top dollar and they'll say anything you want.[/quote]

One of your worst takes Mooby.

Elected by the people

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[quote=Chico23231;1282464]One of your worst takes Mooby.

Elected by the people[/quote]

I said what I said.

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Every single time Tim Scott speaks he is met with racists backlash from the left. Being able to think and speak for yourself is what civil rights movement was all about.

When a black person gives an opinion that’s not inline with liberal thinking, a common trope is he is being paid to say these things. Democrats attacking blacks who don’t fall inline with their thinking is a commonly used to control the black vote.

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lol the right talking about democrats controlling the black vote... LOL

seriously that's hilarious

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[quote=MTK;1282716]lol the right talking about democrats controlling the black vote... LOL

seriously that's hilarious[/quote]

You can tell by the racist backlash from the left with Tim Scott just how threaten they are...combined with the minority voting base expansion under Trump its clear. Attack opposition with tropes like “these are paid people”

We saw it last year especially on msnbc when minority supporters of the trump campaign were asked while giving opinion..interrupted and asked are you receiving money or are you a paid surrogate. I imagine thats where Mooby gets it from.

Its really kinda sad and for folks to not understand it....just wow too me

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:laughing2

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[quote=Chico23231;1282726]You can tell by the racist backlash from the left with Tim Scott just how threaten they are...combined with the minority voting base expansion under Trump its clear. Attack opposition with tropes like “these are paid people”

We saw it last year especially on msnbc when minority supporters of the trump campaign were asked while giving opinion..interrupted and asked are you receiving money or are you a paid surrogate. I imagine thats where Mooby gets it from.

Its really kinda sad and for folks to not understand it....just wow too me[/quote]

Am I saying Republicans pay him directly so they can have a black GQP presence? No. Am I saying it's financially beneficial to be the leading minority voice of the GOP? Yes.

They didn't give the platform to Tim Scott because his opinions are gamechangers, they gave it to him because he's the leading minority of the GQP.

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[quote=mooby;1282454]Tim Scott is proof you can pay somebody top dollar and they'll say anything you want.[/quote]

You literally said he is first paid top dollar and he will then say anything you want.

We get the implication

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1282726]You can tell by the racist backlash from the left with Tim Scott just how threaten they are...combined with the minority voting base expansion under Trump its clear. Attack opposition with tropes like “these are paid people”



We saw it last year especially on msnbc when minority supporters of the trump campaign were asked while giving opinion..interrupted and asked are you receiving money or are you a paid surrogate. I imagine thats where Mooby gets it from.



Its really kinda sad and for folks to not understand it....just wow too me[/QUOTE]



This is hysterical. Sad and concerning. But hysterical. You are such a sheep for Trump and the white nationalist party.

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[quote=Chico23231;1282734]You literally said he is first paid top dollar and he will then say anything you want.

We get the implication[/quote]

You don't think he's making good money off being the leading minority voice of the GQP?

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Makes statements back with facts of expansion of voting base on 2020 results, receipts of msnbc saying minorities stating opposition of dems idea are paid actors, and Tim Scott racists backlash from progressives across social media platforms

Response: GQP, sheep, laughing, white nationalist

A very justified criticism of GOP has been lack giving larger platforms to its minority representatives. Something that has hurt the party. GOP does it and predictably this is the response. Tim Scott is a leader who I hope can reach across the aisle to get a police reform bill to the desk of Biden

Remember, Democrats used the Jim Crow filibuster tactic against him last year when proposing a police reform bill. But that was fine too

Got it

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lol two clowns

[URL="https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-gaetz-marjorie-taylor-greene-national-america-first-tour-together-2021-4"]Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene are hitting the road together on a national 'America First Tour'[/URL]

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[quote=punch it in;1282745]This is hysterical. Sad and concerning. But hysterical. You are such a sheep for Trump and the white nationalist party.[/quote].

The GOP is not a White Nationalist Party. It has significant elements that are, and yes I'd say all of those elements are Trumpsters (Note this is not the same as saying all Trumpsters are white nationalists - although none of them, imo, are conservatives anymore). Tim Scott, I hope is the future of the Republican party - he made a fine start on Wednesday (despite the nay-sayers and their racist attacks it probably was the best response to a Presidents speech since those began in 1966).

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[quote=nonniey;1282780].

The GOP is not a White Nationalist Party. It has significant elements that are, and yes I'd say all of those elements are Trumpster's (Note this is not the same as saying all Trumpster's are white nationalists - although none of them, imo, are conservatives anymore). Tim Scott, I hope is the future of the Republican party - he made a fine start on Wednesday (despite the nay-sayers and their racist attacks it probably was the best response to a Presidents speech since those began in 1966).[/quote]

I really don't know about responses I quit watching the state of the union a long time ago but I do think it is in the countries best interest to have diversity within the parties. I think Republicans have done a really good job reaching out to latinx voters and that can only benefit all of us. That is true on myriad issues. I cringe how the Republicans in control now turn a blind eye to environmental issues but as recently as 2008 John McCain and Barrack Obamas plans for dealing with climate change were nearly identical.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1282785]I really don't know about responses I quit watching the state of the union a long time ago but I do think it is in the countries best interest to have diversity within the parties. I think Republicans have done a really good job reaching out to latinx voters and that can only benefit all of us. That is true on myriad issues. I cringe how the Republicans in control now turn a blind eye to environmental issues but as recently as 2008 John McCain and Barrack Obamas plans for dealing with climate change were nearly identical.[/quote]

What if I told you 2 of the greatest conservative thinkers of the modern era are black, Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas. I find it interesting the choice of academia has made and continue to make the conscious decision to avoid both at all cost.

This has worked both ways.

People have asked me, Chico what’s the Conservative message to minorities in urban politics...they don’t reach out or offer solutions. I’d say start with Sowell and Thomas first and foremost, they are heavyweights in their respected fields and relatable backgrounds.

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Russia and China artificially boost divisive hashtags and tweets to spread our division.

I’d guess 90% of the uncle Tim stuff is from their click farms and bots.

They hype up anti left and anti right talking points.

But hey ...

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Lets stop pretending trumpers and conservatives are one in the same. Trump is for trump
And all his sheep think he is for them. He is the furthest thing from a conservative.
As for the GOP - they are simply being held hostage by his base and their votes. They cannot seem to win anything with those votes but it would be much worse without them. There is a greedy racist element that has its claws in the GOP. Until more of the true republicans/conservatives break away from Trump the stink will remain.

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[quote=punch it in;1282804]Lets stop pretending trumpers and conservatives are one in the same. Trump is for trump
And all his sheep think he is for them. He is the furthest thing from a conservative.
As for the GOP - they are simply being held hostage by his base and their votes. They cannot seem to win anything with those votes but it would be much worse without them. There is a greedy racist element that has its claws in the GOP. Until more of the true republicans/conservatives break away from Trump the stink will remain.[/quote]

Yup . They have embraced trumps lack of morals and personal responsibility ,it's the republican party downfall.

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[quote=punch it in;1282804]Lets stop pretending trumpers and conservatives are one in the same. Trump is for trump
And all his sheep think he is for them. He is the furthest thing from a conservative.
As for the GOP - they are simply being held hostage by his base and their votes. They cannot seem to win anything with those votes but it would be much worse without them. There is a greedy racist element that has its claws in the GOP. Until more of the true republicans/conservatives break away from Trump the stink will remain.[/quote]


Well to be fair there is a greedy racist element that has it's claws in the Democratic Party as well. The parties embracing of Critical Race Theory is the latest manifestation of that.

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[QUOTE=SunnySide;1282799]Russia and China artificially boost divisive hashtags and tweets to spread our division.



I’d guess 90% of the uncle Tim stuff is from their click farms and bots.



They hype up anti left and anti right talking points.



But hey ...[/QUOTE]



Exactly and the sheep gobble it up and spread it like the gospel. They do not even realize they are being fleeced.

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[QUOTE=nonniey;1282814]Well to be fair there is a greedy racist element that has it's claws in the Democratic Party as well. The parties embracing of Critical Race Theory is the latest manifestation of that.[/QUOTE]


Nah. Critical Race Theory scares the hell out of the good ole boys network. To say embracing it is racist is off base imo.
Trump and the rest of the lot are simply unable to face the fact that this country’s very foundation is racist - because how dare anyone fuck with Murica? It is unpatriotic to disparage our Country! There is nothing wrong with embracing it. It seeks to understand and repair the problem. Trump (and people like him - aka racists) will say it teaches people to hate our Country. Bullshit. There are things about this country that should be hated, fixed, repaired, forgotten. But lets just keep it tied up in a neat little box and plant a sign in our front lawn that says “America - love it or leave it”, or “if you dont like America ill help u pack”, etc etc.
In other words “leave well enough alone”. Bullshit.
The old rich white male likes his power. CRT challenges it. So they paint you as a commie, or unpatriotic, or some shit. It is so obvious.
What is really fucked up is all the poor white trash who obviously get shit on by the same old rich white males like Trump but they champion him and others just because they are more concerned about keeping people of color down than improving their own lives. It is a sick rotten ecosystem of hate and greed and it has completely infiltrated the right.
And i am in no way saying dems are saints or the right is all racist. Not even close. But the filthy race monster has made itself right at home in the right and is posing as a patriot. It is not. It is a vile greedy paranoid hateful creature.

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[url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/550653-trump-discussing-resumption-of-maga-rallies-report%3famp[/url]

Trump discussing resumption of MAGA rallies

Punch and G1...because u miss him, he’s coming back for yall

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[quote=nonniey;1282780].

The GOP is not a White Nationalist Party. It has significant elements that are, and yes I'd say all of those elements are Trumpsters (Note this is not the same as saying all Trumpsters are white nationalists - although none of them, imo, are conservatives anymore). Tim Scott, I hope is the future of the Republican party - he made a fine start on Wednesday (despite the nay-sayers and[B] their racist attacks[/B] it probably was the best response to a Presidents speech since those began in 1966).[/quote]

Just curious, do you include my statement as a "racist" attack?

Because I'm saying it's financially advantageous to be a minority in the GQP. He gives the party credibility as a "non-racist" entity despite the fact they continously stay silent about the white nationalist brothers who attend MAGA rallies with them and commit hate acts in support of Trump.

Tim Scott is the future of the GQP?

You guys must have not heard of this guy named "Trump." Because as long as Trump lives, he is the future of the GQP.

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[quote=Chico23231;1282820][url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/550653-trump-discussing-resumption-of-maga-rallies-report%3famp[/url]

Trump discussing resumption of MAGA rallies

Punch and G1...because u miss him, he’s coming back for yall[/quote]

This might be the smartest thing Trump's done since deciding to run for president. The rallies start up again and current policymakers realize who still runs this shit.

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1282820][url]https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/administration/550653-trump-discussing-resumption-of-maga-rallies-report%3famp[/url]



Trump discussing resumption of MAGA rallies



Punch and G1...because u miss him, he’s coming back for yall[/QUOTE]



Lol. He is in a shitload of trouble.