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RB Austin Ekeler was not practicing during the open period. He was working off to the side with trainers. #Chargers

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Samuel has never even had a 1,000 season. You don't pay gadget guys 34 million over 3 years. Like someone mentioned I want to see this kid from NC anyway. Also the last time we saw Sims he was having a pretty damn good game against TB. Humhpries doesn't do much for me. He is a JAG of all JAGS.

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I thought it was a pretty solid and fair salary - on average - per year, with a potential out after two...

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1289162]Ben Standig
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RB Austin Ekeler was not practicing during the open period. He was working off to the side with trainers. #Chargers[/quote]



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Chargers RB Austin Ekeler officially did not participate in practice today due to a hamstring injury.

Wow…

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Samuel has been dealing with this groin issue for months. I'm just gonna assume he ain't playing this year. Dude has a groin made of string cheese.

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Did anyone catch tonya Snyder on Adam Schefty podcast?

I just don’t know folks…Day to day operations?

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[quote=Chico23231;1289199]Did anyone catch tonya Snyder on Adam Schefty podcast?

I just don’t know folks…Day to day operations?[/quote]

The thing that bothered me the most was she had the chance to take some accountability and she wasn't having it.

[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/instead-of-offering-sympathy-for-the-wft-victims-tanya-snyder-only-showed-it-for-herself-210136425.html"]Instead of offering sympathy for the WFT victims, Tanya Snyder showed it only for herself[/URL]

I really hate rooting for this franchise knowing the pieces of shit at the top.

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[quote=MTK;1289200]The thing that bothered me the most was she had the chance to take some accountability and she wasn't having it.

[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/instead-of-offering-sympathy-for-the-wft-victims-tanya-snyder-only-showed-it-for-herself-210136425.html"]Instead of offering sympathy for the WFT victims, Tanya Snyder showed it only for herself[/URL]

I really hate rooting for this franchise knowing the pieces of shit at the top.[/quote]

I was a little surprised to be honest. These elites think accountability are for others to answer to.

The comment,” we coulda just sailed away”…must be nice to have the privilege to get on a mega yacht and actually do that. But most fans would have just wanted that…for y’all to sell the team.

The whole thing was pathetic

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[quote=MTK;1289200]The thing that bothered me the most was she had the chance to take some accountability and she wasn't having it.

[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/instead-of-offering-sympathy-for-the-wft-victims-tanya-snyder-only-showed-it-for-herself-210136425.html"]Instead of offering sympathy for the WFT victims, Tanya Snyder showed it only for herself[/URL]

I really hate rooting for this franchise knowing the pieces of shit at the top.[/quote]

The Dan is contagious. You hang around him and you become similar to him. Wish I could say her behaving that way was a surprise.

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I was just holding out hope she was truly his better half. Guess not.

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Of course she did lol she doesn't give a shit, she's balls rich and can do whatever she wants.. I'm just glad the front office is legit finally

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[quote=Chico23231;1289199]Did anyone catch tonya Snyder on Adam Schefty podcast?

I just don’t know folks…Day to day operations?[/quote]

Yikes.

Just read Matty's article - how shit do you have to be to not even offer the standard boiler-plate apology most corporate types do after a scandal like this?

Sounds like Dan married the right woman.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1289222]Of course she did lol she doesn't give a shit, she's balls rich and can do whatever she wants.. I'm just glad the front office is legit finally[/quote]

But are we ever truly safe? Nope

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[quote=Chico23231;1289251]But are we ever truly safe? Nope[/quote]

Member feeling safe?

Member Chewbacca again?

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I think Dan and Tayna should just let Wright do the talking and both of them just shut up.

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[quote=Chico23231;1289199]Did anyone catch tonya Snyder on Adam Schefty podcast?

I just don’t know folks…Day to day operations?[/quote]

Loverro summed it up well... the interview was "shameful".

Schefter put it on a platter and gave her multiple opportunities to say the right thing and she still couldn't muster the empathy.

We shouldn't be surprised though. She is married to Dan Snyder after all.

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Letting Tonya Snyder do that interview without knowing how she would answer was akin to a defense lawyer letting their client take the stand without prep. That is a major flub under the new FO and media team.

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[quote=MTK;1289200]The thing that bothered me the most was she had the chance to take some accountability and she wasn't having it.

[URL="https://sports.yahoo.com/instead-of-offering-sympathy-for-the-wft-victims-tanya-snyder-only-showed-it-for-herself-210136425.html"]Instead of offering sympathy for the WFT victims, Tanya Snyder showed it only for herself[/URL]

I really hate rooting for this franchise knowing the[B] pieces of shit at the top[/B].[/quote]

I'm with you. However I'm sure a LOT of owners of teams are just as big of a Ahole as Dan, but they're smart enough to stay out of the lights with it.

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Welp - Curtis Samuel to IR. I am sure it's the right decision, and I don't think the team will be overly affected because the other WRs have gotten all the practice time, but it is discouraging. It's kinda like DeSean Jackson. You love what he does on the field WHEN he can get on the field.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289362]Welp - Curtis Samuel to IR. I am sure it's the right decision, and I don't think the team will be overly affected because the other WRs have gotten all the practice time, but it is discouraging. It's kinda like DeSean Jackson. You love what he does on the field WHEN he can get on the field.

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Curtis Samuel will be placed on IR with a groin injury and will miss at least the first three games of the season, per @AdamSchefter

Not a good start to things.

Our bottom 3 offense is basically the same except Fitz (which could be huge).

edit - dont want to discount the chance of a bounce back healthy year for Humphries or D Brown showing himself to be able to stretch the field.

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P Rich 2.0???

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[quote=SunnySide;1289365]PFF Fantasy Football
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Curtis Samuel will be placed on IR with a groin injury and will miss at least the first three games of the season, per @AdamSchefter

Not a good start to things.

Our bottom 3 offense is basically the same except Fitz (which could be huge).

edit - dont want to discount the chance of a bounce back healthy year for Humphries or D Brown showing himself to be able to stretch the field.[/quote]

It was a fear. Door open for Brown.

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I give the Chargers the W in a close one simply because they have the better QB. I think Herbert can and will make some plays out of the pocket where Fitz won't be able to do that.

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The dreaded cross country 1pm start curse will play a factor. Herbert didn't play at all in the preseason so there's no way he'll be ready, right? WFT wins 24-20 on a late defensive TD.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289365]PFF Fantasy Football
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Curtis Samuel will be placed on IR with a groin injury and will miss at least the first three games of the season, per @AdamSchefter

Not a good start to things.

Our bottom 3 offense is basically the same except Fitz (which could be huge).

edit - dont want to discount the chance of a bounce back healthy year for Humphries or D Brown showing himself to be able to stretch the field.[/quote]

Glad you edited. I think our offense is different on several levels. But Sunday will definitely help us re-set our expectations.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1289369]I give the Chargers the W in a close one simply because they have the better QB. I think Herbert can and will make some plays out of the pocket where Fitz won't be able to do that.[/quote]

I think I saw parts of 1 game of Herbert's last season.

Excited to see what the buzz is about.

I do anticipate teams game planning for Chase/Sweat by playing quick ball and avoiding 5 to 7 step drops/long developing plays.

Last year it seemed teams molded their play calling to minimize our pass rush.

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This offense has essentially been without Samuel since he signed. I really don't see how his absence will have any impact whatsoever.

The Chargers without Ekeler is a much worse scenario for them, than the absence of Samuel is for WFT.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289374]I think I saw parts of 1 game of Herbert's last season.

Excited to see what the buzz is about.

I do anticipate teams game planning for Chase/Sweat by playing quick ball and avoiding 5 to 7 step drops/long developing plays.

Last year it seemed [B]teams molded their play calling to minimize our pass rush[/B].[/quote]

They'd be dumb not to. That is why it is important for the back 7 to show some improvement this year, and I think they will. On paper they look to be much improved. Either way, I don't mind them giving up yards between the 20s, as long as the D shuts opposing offenses down in the Red Zone.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289373]Glad you edited. I think our offense is different on several levels. But Sunday will definitely help us re-set our expectations.[/quote]

yeah .. i kinda tunnel visioned on Samuel for a second and kinda forgot we made other, albeit smaller upgrades.

But the negative nancy in me feels like we'll get a handful of games with Humphries until his concussion concerns become a reality. Leno will give us below average play. Samuels being out.

Our run game was a big issue last year as it was non-existent and we were predictable on play calling.

We have done 0 to address our run game .. except to hope that by being a more vertical down field team, defenses have to defend the whole field and not just 20 yards from the LOS.

i dont know man ... Scott Turner has to earn his paycheck this year.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1289376]They'd be dumb not to. That is why it is important for the back 7 to show some improvement this year, and I think they will. On paper they look to be much improved. Either way, I don't mind them giving up yards between the 20s, as long as the D shuts opposing offenses down in the Red Zone.[/quote]

Yup our red zone D was great last year. Hope that continues.

Our D is just stacked. As long as we can mask our LBs and the underneath/intermediate stuff ... top 5 is realistic.

Im pumped up.

Healthy Chase coming off the edge ... Im bart Scott.

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It's hard to say that we have done 0 to address the run game. We brought back Scherff, brought in Leno, brought back Flowers, drafted Cosmi, and drafted a dynamic Jaret Patterson. Not to mention upgraded the WR / TE positions, not only with pass-catching threats, but with willing blockers which should help a ton too.

Honestly, there's no excuses for Scott Turner this year. If the offense doesn't get it done, it falls squarely on him.

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And don't forget we have an offense that should stretch the field and stop the heavy run D's we faced last year when they knew we were all dink and dunk. I mean look how we played better against TB than we did all year, because we were able to go more than 15y downfield. I'm quietly optimistic about this offense.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1289379]It's hard to say that we have done 0 to address the run game. We brought back Scherff, brought in Leno, brought back Flowers, drafted Cosmi, and drafted a dynamic Jaret Patterson. Not to mention upgraded the WR / TE positions, not only with pass-catching threats, but with willing blockers which should help a ton too.

Honestly, there's no excuses for Scott Turner this year. If the offense doesn't get it done, it falls squarely on him.[/quote]

Glass half empty take

LT = worse. Leno is subpar and Lucas played above his expected level last year. Last year we got kinda lucky with LT play. It wasnt great but it was better than it should have been, below avg. This year we dont get lucky and get what we paid for = below avg LT play.

LG = Flowers/Wes are decent, C type players. I guess this position upgrades bc we have 2 decent locked-in options and dont waste game trying Martin or Charles and other musicla chairs.

C = Roullier is going to Roullier, hopefully he stays healthy

RG = Scherff is going to Scherff, hopefully he stays healthy

RT = rookie Cosmi hopefully is comparable to Moses, perhaps Cosmi may even be a better run blocker. I do think Cosmi has more upside but hes a rookie and Moses gave like B- level play last year .. hopefully we get B- play this year.

Thomas is a willing blocker but is not nasty, woudlnt trust him to set the edge on a power run.

Patterson? We will see what he brings, he does seem more north south vs Gibson and seems to find a hole and fall forward though. I assume Patterson isnt on this team in a year or 2.

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Just having a full season under his belt should help Gibson be a better all around back this year.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289386]Glass half empty take

LT = worse. Leno is subpar and Lucas played above his expected level last year. Last year we got kinda lucky with LT play. It wasnt great but it was better than it should have been, below avg. This year we dont get lucky and get what we paid for = below avg LT play.

LG = Flowers/Wes are decent, C type players. I guess this position upgrades bc we have 2 decent locked-in options and dont waste game trying Martin or Charles and other musicla chairs.

C = Roullier is going to Roullier, hopefully he stays healthy

RG = Scherff is going to Scherff, hopefully he stays healthy

RT = rookie Cosmi hopefully is comparable to Moses, perhaps Cosmi may even be a better run blocker. I do think Cosmi has more upside but hes a rookie and Moses gave like B- level play last year .. hopefully we get B- play this year.

Thomas is a willing blocker but is not nasty, woudlnt trust him to set the edge on a power run.

Patterson? We will see what he brings, he does seem more north south vs Gibson and seems to find a hole and fall forward though. I assume Patterson isnt on this team in a year or 2.[/quote]

I think, and I know this is COMPLETELY unproven, that TE Reyes will be huge in run blocking. In this tweet by Nicki Jhabvala, he drove his guy across the field like the guy was a blocking sled.

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1426251108956131336[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1289393]I think, and I know this is COMPLETELY unproven, that TE Reyes will be huge in run blocking. In this tweet by Nicki Jhabvala, he drove his guy across the field like the guy was a blocking sled.

[url]https://twitter.com/NickiJhabvala/status/1426251108956131336[/url][/quote]

Hopefully he's improved in that area, I recall some clips of him from the first preseason game totally whiffing on blocks out there.

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[quote=MTK;1289392]Just having a full season under his belt should help Gibson be a better all around back this year.[/quote]

Debbie fucking Downer here ..

Gibson right now is at his ceiling. He can catch the ball, he can turn up field to maximize his "anticipated" or "expected" yards but doesnt have that make you miss or break tackle ability to make a 5 yard play a 20 yarder.

hes good on screens or leaking out of the backfield but he def cant run in between the tackles and makes defending the run easy in that regard. Our run game is predictable and unproductive.

Hes decent. If a play should get 5 yards, hell get you 5-6 yards. If you can get him out in space with blockers, hes good. But so is McKissic and a bunch of other guys.

We had this discussion last year and advanced stats and rankings had me wrong in saying he doesnt get a lot of extra yards above any given plays expected yardage .. but I stand by my opinion.

hes a good player, his skill set matches what Turner is looking for but he cant run in between tackles and if hes in on 3rd and long its not to pass pro but to be an outlet for a short pass short of the sticks.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289396]Debbie fucking Downer here ..

Gibson right now is at his ceiling. He can catch the ball, he can turn up field to maximize his "anticipated" or "expected" yards but doesnt have that make you miss or break tackle ability to make a 5 yard play a 20 yarder.

hes good on screens or leaking out of the backfield but he def cant run in between the tackles and defending easy in that regard.

Hes decent. If a play should get 5 yards, hell get you 5-6 yards. If you can get him out in space with blockers, hes good. But so is McKissic and a bunch of other guys.

We had this discussion last year and advanced stats and rankings had me wrong in saying he doesnt get a lot of extra yards above any given plays expected yardage .. but I stand by my opinion.

hes a good player, his skill set matches what Turner is looking for but he cant run in between tackles and if hes in on 3rd and long its not to pass pro but to be an outlet for a short pass short of the sticks.[/quote]

I know you're not a fan, but I think we could see big things from him this year.

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[quote=SunnySide;1289386]Glass half empty take

LT = worse. Leno is subpar and Lucas played above his expected level last year. Last year we got kinda lucky with LT play. It wasnt great but it was better than it should have been, below avg. This year we dont get lucky and get what we paid for = below avg LT play.

LG = Flowers/Wes are decent, C type players. I guess this position upgrades bc we have 2 decent locked-in options and dont waste game trying Martin or Charles and other musicla chairs.

C = Roullier is going to Roullier, hopefully he stays healthy

RG = Scherff is going to Scherff, hopefully he stays healthy

RT = rookie Cosmi hopefully is comparable to Moses, perhaps Cosmi may even be a better run blocker. I do think Cosmi has more upside but hes a rookie and Moses gave like B- level play last year .. hopefully we get B- play this year.

Thomas is a willing blocker but is not nasty, woudlnt trust him to set the edge on a power run.

Patterson? We will see what he brings, he does seem more north south vs Gibson and seems to find a hole and fall forward though. I assume Patterson isnt on this team in a year or 2.[/quote]

I prefer the glass half full approach :)

The running game will be fine, probably better than most expect.

LT [I]may be[/I] a wash, but I don't see how you can say it's worse. To me, the most important thing done this offseason was to improve the depth on the O-line. You can argue Cosmi isn't an upgrade, and Leno is worse than what we had last year. I don't agree, but what I do know is - someone, likely multiple players on the O-line, will get hurt. The difference this year, is there is a quality backup waiting to be the next man up.

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Honestly, I will be pretty surprised if Gibson doesn't have a "break out" year this year, if he stays healthy.