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I confess, I have no idea who Sam Ehlinger is. I really hope we can get our pass rush going (no sacks of Rodgers yesterday, although he was getting the ball out fast).

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326778]Yep Sam Ehlinger season lol they are in tank mode now


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You could argue they were in tank mode with Ryan in there, he's been a turnover machine

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[quote=calia;1326780]I confess, I have no idea who Sam Ehlinger is. I really hope we can get our pass rush going (no sacks of Rodgers yesterday, although he was getting the ball out fast).[/quote]

Texas grown QB. Went to the same high school as Drew Brees and Nick Foles - broke most of their HS records. He was a solid QB for the Longhorns for four years. Reminds me of Baker Mayfield a little, but not as cocky. He was drafted last year, but hasn't played any meaningful snaps in the regular season. Similar to where we are with Heinicke and Wentz though, Ehlinger probably gives the Colts a better chance to win at this point than Matt Ryan does.

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The colts need a LOT especially on O. They have no QB, and really no WRs.

Taylor should be a trade target too if I was them. They need a complete rebuild

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326785]The colts need a LOT especially on O. They have no QB, and really no WRs.

Taylor should be a trade target too if I was them. They need a complete rebuild[/quote]

Then you trade Nelson for a bunch of picks.

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It's amazing that the Colts are 3-3-1 the way people are talking about them being in rebuild mode. I doubt that they see it that way.

BTW, I am not saying I disagree, but they somehow beat the Chiefs earlier in the season. Their other wins are against Jax and the Broncos -- not real achievements -- and they only managed a tie against the Texans. The two games they played v. Jax are crazy -- they lost the first game against them 24-0 and then won 34-27. How you get blanked and then put up 34 on the same team 3 weeks later is beyond me. So who the heck knows what this team is? They're probably thinking that they're decent QB (turnover free football) away from being relevant, just as some people thought might be the case for us now that the defense has started to play better.

The good news is that Irsay is nuts and he'll probably want to suit up himself to play on Sunday.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1326783]Texas grown QB. Went to the same high school as Drew Brees and Nick Foles - broke most of their HS records. He was a solid QB for the Longhorns for four years. Reminds me of Baker Mayfield a little, but not as cocky. He was drafted last year, but hasn't played any meaningful snaps in the regular season. Similar to where we are with Heinicke and Wentz though, Ehlinger probably gives the Colts a better chance to win at this point than Matt Ryan does.[/quote]

I'm thinking youre right,he probably gives them a spark,I'm sure he's gonna be a lot more mobile,not much game film on him,he probably whips our ass

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If Zappe can do it, why can't Howell? If TH screws up, put him in a short leash.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1326800]If Zappe can do it, why can't Howell? If TH screws up, put him in a short leash.[/quote]

Dude entered the game and immediately throws a td

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Justin Fields fucking garbage

Edit…fields acshuckly playing pretty well

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[quote=Chico23231;1326801]Dude entered the game and immediately throws a td[/quote]

Impressive indeed. That must be tough for Mac Jones. The guy has a solid rookie season, his team drafts a QB in the 4th round, he gets injured, the guy shines and just like that a couple of bad drives to start the game is enough to get him benched... The NFL is a tough business for sure.

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Colts aren't in rebuild mode.. Lol. Like most teams they have some strengths and some weaknesses. They're an average team. Pittman has really turned out to be a really good player.

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Belichick is a good coach, but he ain’t shit without TB.

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The Bears are taking the Patriots behind the woodshed.
Sports can be rather funny at times.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1326808]Belichick is a good coach, but he ain’t shit without TB.[/quote]

I think BB is really good. But best ever? Nah. I remember when he was DC of the Giants back in the 80's. We always had a tough time w/ their 3-4. He got the job at Clev and got them to the playoffs once, then Modell moved the team. But what is his record w/ out Brady? Seems like he is just a really good coach that lucked out w/ Brady. Even his 2001 SB team had numerous Parcells leftovers. Plus his drafts have been subpar at best.

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I guess our run D is pretty good after all. The Bears ran for 243 against the Pats. Sheesh.

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The Bears played an inspired game against the Pats. They are learning how to best use their talented young QB and they have some other top-notch talent on D. I think they are on their way to becoming a tough out the rest of the season. It was certainly a fun game to watch.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1326811]I think BB is really good. But best ever? Nah. I remember when he was DC of the Giants back in the 80's. We always had a tough time w/ their 3-4. He got the job at Clev and got them to the playoffs once, then Modell moved the team. But what is his record w/ out Brady? Seems like he is just a really good coach that lucked out w/ Brady. Even his 2001 SB team had numerous Parcells leftovers. Plus his drafts have been subpar at best.[/quote]

Who do you think is? I think he is very good too. You give any other current coach Mac Jones or Bailey Zappe and they are not nearly as successful. Only other coaches I think could take those two and squeeze some juice are Shanny and McVeigh

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1326814]The Bears played an inspired game against the Pats. They are learning how to best use their talented young QB and they have some other top-notch talent on D. I think they are on their way to becoming a tough out the rest of the season. It was certainly a fun game to watch.[/quote]

They are already a tough out. With the exception of the Packers game, their other three losses (NYG, MIN, WAS) have all been by one score.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1326825]They are already a tough out. With the exception of the Packers game, their other three losses (NYG, MIN, WAS) have all been by one score.[/quote]Wow. Makes me appreciate our victory and defense a bit more after seeing this. Our defense has been playing better than the beginning of the year. Would love to see Chase Young soon healthy.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1326808]Belichick is a good coach, but he ain’t shit without TB.[/quote]I am really surprised at the drop off honestly. Last night was a good example. Losing by double digits at home to Chicago on MNF. Realize the Bears are improved, but last night was one I though the Pats would get.

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It just goes to show you how critical it is to have a QB

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1326826]Wow. Makes me appreciate our victory and defense a bit more after seeing this. Our defense has been playing better than the beginning of the year. Would love to see Chase Young soon healthy.[/quote]

Our defense seems to be really playing well. Sitting William Jackson and having St Juste play in his more natural position at boundary corner is looking like the right move.

Also, Holcomb has stepped his game up as well as Davis.

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[quote=Chico23231;1326832]Our defense seems to be really playing well. Sitting William Jackson and having St Juste play in his more natural position at boundary corner is looking like the right move.

Also, Holcomb has stepped his game up as well as Davis.[/quote]Yes agree on all accounts. A healthy, dominant Chase Young could really take it to the next level.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1326834]Yes agree on all accounts. A healthy, dominant Chase Young could really take it to the next level.[/quote]

The one thing I'm nervous about is CY99 trying to do his own thing in the pass rush - that was a big thing with them last year and everyone trying to do their own thing.

This year they seem to have a better idea of what gaps to play to close the pocket - last year we saw CY99 leaving wide gaps for the qb to step up in while he rushed to the outside of the tackle. Hope when he comes back he has better cohesion with the rest of the unit.

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[quote=mooby;1326837]The one thing I'm nervous about is CY99 trying to do his own thing in the pass rush - that was a big thing with them last year and everyone trying to do their own thing.

This year they seem to have a better idea of what gaps to play to close the pocket - last year we saw CY99 leaving wide gaps for the qb to step up in while he rushed to the outside of the tackle. Hope when he comes back he has better cohesion with the rest of the unit.[/quote]

I have the same concern, although I'm hoping that since he had to watch games from the sideline, he would realize how the defense plays better when everyone do their job as assigned. We will see..

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1326823]Who do you think is? I think he is very good too. You give any other current coach Mac Jones or Bailey Zappe and they are not nearly as successful. Only other coaches I think could take those two and squeeze some juice are Shanny and McVeigh[/quote]

I think Belichick the GM hasn't been that good. Zappe and Mac Jones? The game has changed and you have to have an elite athlete at QB nowadays that can make plays w/ his legs. If you don't then you need an elite team around your QB. Justin Fields was the best player on the field. His passing is still a work in progress but he crushed NE w/ his runs. Never felt Mac Jones is going to take them anywhere. Good player but he is a JAG.

Belichick hasn't adjusted his offense for the league as it is today. On top of that he has his former DC and a special teams coach running his offense? And they also have a tough time developing wr's.

Hoody has to roll up his sleeves after getting his ass beat last night. Brady ain't there to bail him out.

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[quote=mooby;1326837]The one thing I'm nervous about is CY99 trying to do his own thing in the pass rush - that was a big thing with them last year and everyone trying to do their own thing.

This year they seem to have a better idea of what gaps to play to close the pocket - last year we saw CY99 leaving wide gaps for the qb to step up in while he rushed to the outside of the tackle. Hope when he comes back he has better cohesion with the rest of the unit.[/quote]

It's a valid concern. Is he going to come back with something to prove personally - and not be a complementary player, or is he going to come back and play within the system and just do his job? Hopefully they will ease him in and give him the opportunity to prove that he will not be a freelancing liability. I am not sure I want him to automatically be given the lion's share of reps at that position.

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NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326843]NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig[/quote]

I have mixed feelings about this. Payne has been playing pretty well this year so it would be a big loss if we trade him away. If the team has no plans to resign him then yes we definitely should trade him, but if we will attempt to sign then keep him and make efforts to resign him toward ending of the season.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1326840]It's a valid concern. Is he going to come back with something to prove personally - and not be a complementary player, or is he going to come back and play within the system and just do his job? Hopefully they will ease him in and give him the opportunity to prove that he will not be a freelancing liability. I am not sure I want him to automatically be given the lion's share of reps at that position.[/quote]If he's a liability against the run or anything for that matter, I imagine he'll play minimally. He needs to be effective in all components of the position. He should be aware of this, since he's not a rookie anymore.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1326843]NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig[/QUOTE]


No effin way id trade him for a second. No way.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326843]NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig[/quote]

If we aren’t going to sign him long term, jump on this immediately

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326843]NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig[/quote]

If this team were 0-7 maybe they would consider it, but they are still in it, and could be .500 by Sunday evening. I just don't see them trading him unless they are blown away with an offer. He's too important to this defense. I doubt they would be willing to roll with Allen, Wise, Ridgeway, Bada at DT.

WJ3 though, I could see them trading him since he's pretty much been benched, but I am not sure what you could get for him, or if he is actually hurt - which would complicate that idea.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1326848]If this team were 0-7 maybe they would consider it, but they are still in it, and could be .500 by Sunday evening. I just don't see them trading him unless they are blown away with an offer. He's too important to this defense. I doubt they would be willing to roll with Allen, Wise, Ridgeway, Bada at DT.

WJ3 though, I could see them trading him since he's pretty much been benched, but I am not sure what you could get for him, or if he is actually hurt - which would complicate that idea.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=Chico23231;1326847]If we aren’t going to sign him long term, jump on this immediately[/quote]

+1

A 2nd or a 3rd could be more than we'd get for him as a comp pick when he leaves in the offseason.

Hate to say it but we obviously aren't competing for a title this year, if they don't plan on resigning him time to sell to the highest bidder.

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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1326848]If this team were 0-7 maybe they would consider it, but they are still in it, and could be .500 by Sunday evening. I just don't see them trading him unless they are blown away with an offer. He's too important to this defense. I doubt they would be willing to roll with Allen, Wise, Ridgeway, Bada at DT.

WJ3 though, I could see them trading him since he's pretty much been benched, but I am not sure what you could get for him, or if he is actually hurt - which would complicate that idea.[/quote]

Agreed. Let's not forget we already lost Ioannidis and Settle. I feel like we keep having this notion that we're not going to be able to keep all the talent we have at Dline... but at some point we're still gonna have to pay some guys !
I'd feel more comfortable losing Sweat than Payne at this point. Not a knock on Sweat at all, just that I like our depth at DE more than DT. Even with Obada being a nice surprise.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1326843]NFL Teams have expressed interest in trading for #Commanders DT Daron Payne.

The 6'3, 320 pound former 1st round pick from Alabama has 18 career sacks and people with knowledge of the market believe he could net a 2023 2nd Day Draft pick, according to
@BenStandig[/quote]

The 49ers were one of those teams, I would resign him and Sweat, there should be $$$ money after they get rid of Wentz and Jackson. Throw in McCain too.

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Wentz and Jackson, smh.... Wentz is the highest paid player and Jackson is possibly #3? Neither will see the field the rest of the year and the team could possibly improve. At least McCain doesn't cost a lot.

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I guess former Patriot Asante Samuel agrees

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