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Few bright spots from today on Offense were Dotson who is proving to be a star, Terry who is just an animal and Wentz who came in and threw it very well all things considered.

On defense

The DL did solid and CY looks good. The secondary got eaten alive


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333707]Few bright spots from today on Offense were Dotson who is proving to be a star, Terry who is just an animal and Wentz who came in and threw it very well all things considered.

On defense

The DL did solid and CY looks good. The secondary got eaten alive


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All Wentz did is throw short passes that wasted a lot of time and no sense of urgency.

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We used to have The Hogs. Now we have The Jellyfish.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1333708]All Wentz did is throw short passes that wasted a lot of time and no sense of urgency.[/QUOTE]


The Td was a dime but overall he got it out quickly and on time. Heinicke can’t do that because his arm is so weak. Unfortunately for us, Wentz will go back to his bad play sooner or later and it’ll most likely be the WC game


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Is Cosmi still hurt? Why isn’t he starting at RT or RG? Instead they have Lucas a backup starting and Cosmi coming in relief of Turner.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1333711]The Td was a dime but overall he got it out quickly and on time. Heinicke can’t do that because his arm is so weak. Unfortunately for us, Wentz will go back to his bad play sooner or later and it’ll most likely be the WC game


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Divisional round. SF vs Dallas. Wentz vs Eagles.

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I know it's meaningless... But I [I][U]hated the call to go for it on 4th and goal[/U][/I] early in the game, 0-0 at the time, defense was doing well, take the 3 points (those 3 points would have changed A LOT throughout the game, you didn't have to go for 2 late in the game, you didn't have to attempt the onside kick etc...) AND I [I][U]hated the playcall on that play[/U][/I]: if you do go for it, it's a short one, put your QB under center and run it up the middle from the ace, tell em "we all know what's happening but we're going to get it this time", you're not fooling anybody with that weak ass shotgun, they're not thinking that you're going to put it into Heinicke's hand on a 4th and goal from the 1... Turner got cute again on that one.

Other than that, this [I]Oline is disappointing[/I], Trai Turner proved me wrong again, watching him early I thought he'd be very physical... And I thought [I]Robinson didn't have a very good game[/I], he looked hesitant at times and he left some (tough) yards on the field by not hitting hard enough.
IE, just before the 2min warning in the 1st half, the 3rd and 1 that Turner turned into a 3rd and 6 (eventually converted on a pass to Dotson IIRC), Robinson couldn't have gotten the 1st on the previous play if had just lowered it.

D wasn't as awful as the score suggests, and missing Curl didn't help.

On our last scoring drive, we were on the [I]good end of an awful mistakes by the refs[/I]: the pass called incomplete to Dotson, that Shanahan wanted to challenge, [I][U]was clearly an interception[/U][/I], and they changed the initial completed pass call to an impossible incomplete pass, since the ball never touched the ground. Crazy how no ref, even upstairs, picked up on that IMO.

I don't have a definitive opinion on what to do at QB for the rest of the season. Next season keep Howell and TH as a back up for sure... But for now we're still in the [I]mist of a playoff run[/I], I don't have an issue with this staff doing what they think gives them the best winning chance.

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Given the crazy money some are projecting for Heinicke in FA I don't see there is anyway we bring him back. Still need the money to find a starting QB next year, though I am still not totally convinced that they will cut Wentz while Ron is still in charge.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333660]If this team lays an egg against the shitty browns then they don’t deserve to make the playoffs. It’s that simple


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Isn’t that what we said against the last Giants game:D
I thought it to myself anyway

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[quote=EdmundDorf;1333716]Given the crazy money some are projecting for Heinicke in FA I don't see there is anyway we bring him back. Still need the money to find a starting QB next year, though I am still not totally convinced that they will cut Wentz while Ron is still in charge.[/quote]

I had to look up what you were talking about and 19-20 mill per year…I’m passing on that

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-commanders/taylor-heinicke-17249/market-value/[/url]

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[QUOTE=Chico23231;1333718]I had to look up what you were talking about and 19-20 mill per year…I’m passing on that

[url]https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/washington-commanders/taylor-heinicke-17249/market-value/[/url][/QUOTE]


LOL. He isn’t worth 20 mill for ten years.

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;1333717]Isn’t that what we said against the last Giants game:D
I thought it to myself anyway[/QUOTE]


Giants are a playoff team. Browns are not. We lose that game and there should be serious consequences in the way of people losing their jobs.

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Next week we root for us and Philly. We both win next week and we are getting in.

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[quote=punch it in;1333721]Next week we root for us and Philly. We both win next week and we are getting in.[/quote]

Go Minnesota too! We want the Vikings not the 49ers again.

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If we can just win our next 6 games, we will be super bowl champions baby!!!

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The Giants and Commanders are almost identical teams this yr..

Both -28 in Point differential

Both are 1-3-1 in the div and 4-6-1 in the NFC

Both have very average offenses and top 10 defenses

The only difference is they have the better QB which is why they beat us, Jones made plays and throws that TH didn't.

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[QUOTE=skinsfaninok;1333725]The Giants and Commanders are almost identical teams this yr..

Both -28 in Point differential

Both are 1-3-1 in the div and 4-6-1 in the NFC

Both have very average offenses and top 10 defenses

The only difference is they have the better QB which is why they beat us, Jones made plays and throws that TH didn't.[/QUOTE]


And a better HC and staff

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[QUOTE=sdskinsfan2001;1333723]If we can just win our next 6 games, we will be super bowl champions baby!!![/QUOTE]


[IMG]https://media0.giphy.com/media/LfGGW219qNzLP6IzTA/giphy.gif[/IMG]

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Last night proved once again…we need an Oline rebuild

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CY had a Grade of 87 overall. That’s amazing for his first game back. And he made some big plays.

I think he’ll be a monster next year.


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[quote=Chico23231;1333733]Last night proved once again…we need an Oline rebuild[/quote]

For sure. The Oline cannot handle great pass rushers - Parsons, Bosa, #5 from Giants and so on.

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The OL is bad but a great QB can help a bad line. Look at Rodgers with GB. OLine is bad and he has no legit WR1 and he’s still fine.


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333734]CY had a Grade of 87 overall. That’s amazing for his first game back. And he made some big plays.

I think he’ll be a monster next year.


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I thought you said we should trade him, he’s not living up to expectations? Patience grasshopper

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1333747]I thought you said we should trade him, he’s not living up to expectations? Patience grasshopper[/QUOTE]


That was just me being mad lol but yeah let’s hope he stays healthy


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333746]The OL is bad but a great QB can help a bad line. Look at Rodgers with GB. OLine is bad and he has no legit WR1 and he’s still fine.


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True, although I don't think it's realistic to expect a good rookie QB to solve our Oline issues next year especially when we are not in the position to draft a top rookie QB.

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[quote=GridIron26;1333756]True, although I don't think it's realistic to expect a good rookie QB to solve our Oline issues next year especially when we are not in the position to draft a top rookie QB.[/quote]

Yup. While a great QB can make the line look better…only a few QB can really put the team on his back and play thru OLine issues.

But great Oline and especially a run game more often prop up avg QB play. Like Dak, like any QB in San Fran, like Alex Smith in KC versus Alex Smith in DC.

I think it’s smart to build a strong Oline/running game while we look to improve the QB spot

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Commanders announce mascot choices down to two options: Hog and Dog - NBC Sports Washington

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/commanders-announce-mascot-choices-down-two-options-hog-and-dog?amp=[/url]

Probably going to be a Hog, but this current O-line is an embarrassing representation of what used to be...

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[QUOTE=Chief X_Phackter;1333762]Commanders announce mascot choices down to two options: Hog and Dog - NBC Sports Washington

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/commanders-announce-mascot-choices-down-two-options-hog-and-dog?amp=[/url]

Probably going to be a Hog, but this current O-line is an embarrassing representation of what used to be...[/QUOTE]


This solidifies any chance of a new name now. It’s not happening. Commanders is here to stay


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[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1333762]Commanders announce mascot choices down to two options: Hog and Dog - NBC Sports Washington

[url]https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/commanders/commanders-announce-mascot-choices-down-two-options-hog-and-dog?amp=[/url]

Probably going to be a Hog, but this current O-line is an embarrassing representation of what used to be...[/quote]

Gotta be Hogs

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[quote=GridIron26;1333756]True, although I don't think it's realistic to expect a good rookie QB to solve our Oline issues next year especially when we are not in the position to draft a top rookie QB.[/quote]

Simple, draft an OL and G on the first 3 rounds and start Howell. Hopefully Chris Paul will be ready next year, I’ve read good things about him.

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Does anybody here really think the fan vote will count for anything? Snyder will do whatever he, and he alone, decides unless he just doesn't give a dam anymore.

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[quote=GridIron26;1333756]True, although I don't think it's realistic to expect a good rookie QB to solve our Oline issues next year especially when we are not in the position to draft a top rookie QB.[/quote]

Sam Howell needs to be given an honest shot to win the starting job next season. And, yes, the OL needs to be addressed in the off-season, as well.

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[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;1333747]I thought you said we should trade him, he’s not living up to expectations? [B]Patience grasshopper[/[/B]QUOTE]

never heard that one before.. lol.

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Let’s say the Jets offer Z Wilson to us for a 5th… would you guys gamble on him?


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Nicki Jhabvala on Twitter

O-Line Entertainment LLC — formed by Joe Jacoby, Mark May, John Riggins, Fred Dean and Doc Walker — filed trademark applications for Hogs and Original Hogs on July 22. They're still under review.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333781]Let’s say the Jets offer Z Wilson to us for a 5th… would you guys gamble on him?


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No..

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333781]Let’s say the Jets offer Z Wilson to us for a 5th… would you guys gamble on him?


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Rather let Sam Howell play and see what he has

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333781]Let’s say the Jets offer Z Wilson to us for a 5th… would you guys gamble on him?


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Not with our shitty OL I wouldn't. That dude needs a strong run game and max protection.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1333781]Let’s say the Jets offer Z Wilson to us for a 5th… would you guys gamble on him?


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NO!!!!

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I’d rather play Howell too


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