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mredskins 04-28-2023 08:52 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
Should we get Levis?

skinsfaninok 04-28-2023 08:52 AM

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I'm happy with the pick! We need playmakers on Defense.

MR - If Levis is there at 47 i say yES

KI Skins Fan 04-28-2023 08:57 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=MTK;1341237]When was the last time we had a ball hawk corner? I’m really excited for this guy especially after hearing Smoot talk him up on the Kevin Sheehan podcast this week.

As for the weight thing, he’ll be fine once he’s in a NFL training program.[/quote]

FWIW John Keim wrote that Forbes has bulked up to 180 pounds in the off-season.

EdmundDorf 04-28-2023 09:02 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341237]
As for the weight thing, he’ll be fine once he’s in a NFL training program.[/quote]

He played for three years in the SEC and as far as I have heard had no serious injury issues over that time. So I don't think it is as big of an issue as some would make it out to be. Don't want him to put on too much muscle if it impacts the way he plays the game, there is a fine line there

EdmundDorf 04-28-2023 09:03 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1341240]Should we get Levis?[/quote]

No. OL , OL and OL

Chief X_Phackter 04-28-2023 09:05 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
I'm indifferent about the pick. I feel a little like I felt after we took J Davis. I knew it was a position we needed help at, but don't know much about him. The consensus seems to be that we took the wrong CB on the board (just like the consensus when we took J Davis), but time will tell. I like the idea of a ball hawk, but wonder if he won't get pushed around by NFL receivers.

We'll see... as we will with all these picks...

skinsfaninok 04-28-2023 09:09 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=EdmundDorf;1341246]No. OL , OL and OL[/quote]

We need OL for sure but most of the top guys are gone. I'm thinking BPA from here on out.

If that is Levis or Hooker I take one

MTK 04-28-2023 09:27 AM

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[quote=mredskins;1341240]Should we get Levis?[/quote]

Only if he drops to the 4th or 5th

mredskins 04-28-2023 09:29 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341251]Only if he drops to the 4th or 5th[/quote]

Round?

Ha, there is no way

Brissett howell and Levis let them fucking battle it out

MTK 04-28-2023 09:32 AM

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I’m not a fan of Levis at all

EdmundDorf 04-28-2023 09:36 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1341248]We need OL for sure but most of the top guys are gone. I'm thinking BPA from here on out.

If that is Levis or Hooker I take one[/quote]

Top interior guys are all still there (besides Skoronski obviously)

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-28-2023 09:38 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341254]I’m not a fan of Levis at all[/quote]

Me either, I think he is utter trash.

Meks 04-28-2023 10:01 AM

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The pick is just meh for now 🤷

nonniey 04-28-2023 10:07 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;1341248]We need OL for sure but most of the top guys are gone. I'm thinking BPA from here on out.

If that is Levis or Hooker I take one[/quote]

My prediction is Hooker won't go prior to round 4. But agree BPA outside of DL and WR.

nonniey 04-28-2023 10:09 AM

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[quote=MTK;1341254]I’m not a fan of Levis at all[/quote]
Can't say I am either, but he does have a first round grade (higher than any QB from last years draft). If he is still there at 47 they probably should take him. This is just playing the odds.

skinsfan69 04-28-2023 10:35 AM

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did they really pick a guy who is 165 pounds? lol

skinsfan69 04-28-2023 10:36 AM

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[quote=nonniey;1341265]Can't say I am either, but he does have a first round grade (higher than any QB from last years draft). If he is still there at 47 they probably should take him. This is just playing the odds.[/quote]

I would have no issue with them taking a QB but not in the 2nd round. I think you start looking 4th or 5th round. Max Duggan would be the perfect pick in that area.

DynamiteRave 04-28-2023 10:37 AM

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1341272]did they really pick a guy who is 165 pounds? lol[/QUOTE]


I heard he’s gained since his weigh in and is around 170-175


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SFREDSKIN 04-28-2023 10:43 AM

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If you were to compare Witherspoon vs Forbes, they are very similar, edge to Forbes for all his accomplishments. A little more weight and we got a stud.

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-28-2023 10:45 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1341274]I heard he’s gained since his weigh in and is around 170-175


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D Rave!!! Long time no talk, how you been???

DynamiteRave 04-28-2023 10:46 AM

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[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;1341277]D Rave!!! Long time no talk, how you been???[/QUOTE]


I’m good! You know I go into hibernation til the draft then hibernate again til pre-season lol


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mooby 04-28-2023 11:28 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1341278]I’m good! You know I go into hibernation til the draft then hibernate again til pre-season lol


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D-Rave and Quake in the same thread? What is this 2016?

Glad to hear you're doing good D-rave. Hope things are good with you too Quake.

skinsfaninok 04-28-2023 01:02 PM

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Frobes Coverage Stats in 2022

Targeted 51 times
Gave up 26 Receptions
3 Tds allowed

Cov Grade = 89.6

EARTHQUAKE2689 04-28-2023 01:43 PM

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[quote=mooby;1341279]D-Rave and Quake in the same thread? What is this 2016?

Glad to hear you're doing good D-rave. Hope things are good with you too Quake.[/quote]

A blast from the past for sure!!! I'm good man, just living life.

Chief X_Phackter 04-28-2023 01:58 PM

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I wonder if Forbes will be involved in the return game at all.

punch it in 04-28-2023 03:45 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1341278]I’m good! You know I go into hibernation til the draft then hibernate again til pre-season lol


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Seeing you on here is such a tease. I feel like I should be in a game thread. Its only April. [emoji22]

DynamiteRave 04-28-2023 03:53 PM

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[QUOTE=punch it in;1341291]Seeing you on here is such a tease. I feel like I should be in a game thread. Its only April. [emoji22][/QUOTE]


Soon! I miss you guys. I’ve been getting my news from Reddit most of the time and it’s a jungle in there lol


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skinsfaninok 04-28-2023 03:55 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1341292]Soon! I miss you guys. I’ve been getting my news from Reddit most of the time and it’s a jungle in there lol


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WHERE THE HELL U BEEN?????

KI Skins Fan 04-28-2023 04:23 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1341286]I wonder if Forbes will be involved in the return game at all.[/quote]

I don't know about returns but i do know that he has ST skills because I saw one of his highlights where he blocked a kick [U]and[/U] returned it for a score. He's a playmaker.

Chief X_Phackter 04-28-2023 04:41 PM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1341294]I don't know about returns but i do know that he has ST skills because I saw one of his highlights where he blocked a kick [U]and[/U] returned it for a score. He's a playmaker.[/quote]

Sounds like he has a couple return touchdowns too, but I don't know how often he did that. I did see that play you are talking about. He blocked the kick, but he did not return it for a touchdown. That was someone else.

He does seem to be a playmaker...

KI Skins Fan 04-28-2023 05:11 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=Chief X_Phackter;1341295]Sounds like he has a couple return touchdowns too, but I don't know how often he did that. I did see that play you are talking about. He blocked the kick, but he did not return it for a touchdown. That was someone else.

He does seem to be a playmaker...[/quote]

I must have gotten over-excited and let my mind imagine that he scored. Anyway, I'm warming up to the pick now that he's claiming to have gained 15 pounds.

CrazyCanuck 04-28-2023 05:23 PM

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Great pre-draft discussion about Forbes on Sheehan's Wednesday podcast with Smooty...

[URL="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-chase-option-smoot-on-draft/id1435515037?i=1000610774449"]Sheehan Podcast[/URL]

The Forbes discussion starts at the 1:03:55 mark.

Chief X_Phackter 04-28-2023 05:38 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=KI Skins Fan;1341298]I must have gotten over-excited and let my mind imagine that he scored. Anyway, I'm warming up to the pick now that he's claiming to have gained 15 pounds.[/quote]

He is the reason they scored - still a playmaker kinda play obviously.

I too am warming up to the pick. I have some reservations about his size, but it hasn't been an issue to this point, so maybe it won't be at the next level either...especially with the nutrition/strength & conditioning plan they will most assuredly begin very soon.

AnonEmouse 04-28-2023 06:18 PM

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The return game question is a good one. I don't know that using our#1 pick and likely starting corner as a returner is a good move. But I do wonder whether we could pick up a real return threat in later rounds. It's been way too long since we've had a true threat back there on kicks.

KI Skins Fan 04-29-2023 10:17 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1341302]The return game question is a good one. I don't know that using our#1 pick and likely starting corner as a returner is a good move. But I do wonder whether we could pick up a real return threat in later rounds. It's been way too long since we've had a true threat back there on kicks.[/quote]

So true. We've had some great return men over the years and I miss the excitement they provided.

SCRedskinsFan 04-29-2023 02:09 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=AnonEmouse;1341302]The return game question is a good one. I don't know that using our#1 pick and likely starting corner as a returner is a good move. But I do wonder whether we could pick up a real return threat in later rounds. It's been way too long since we've had a true threat back there on kicks.[/quote]

I'm old enough to remember us using Darrell Green as return man in a playoff game (remember those?) I think against Chicago. He scored but was injured on the play, ribs maybe. So the point of maybe not using a starting corner as return guy is a good one. Except maybe in the playoffs...

nonniey 04-29-2023 02:33 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1341459]I'm old enough to remember us using Darrell Green as return man in a playoff game (remember those?) I think against Chicago. He scored but was injured on the play, ribs maybe. So the point of maybe not using a starting corner as return guy is a good one. Except maybe in the playoffs...[/quote]

Yeah at only 166lbs it would be best to rarely use Forbes in the return game.

punch it in 04-29-2023 02:36 PM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;1341292]Soon! I miss you guys. I’ve been getting my news from Reddit most of the time and it’s a jungle in there lol


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LOL

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-05-2023 10:35 AM

Re: With the 16th Pick, Washington Selects…
 
[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1341459]I'm old enough to remember us using Darrell Green as return man in a playoff game (remember those?) I think against Chicago. He scored but was injured on the play, ribs maybe. So the point of maybe not using a starting corner as return guy is a good one. Except maybe in the playoffs...[/quote]

To be fair to Darrell, he was already hurt before that play, him hurdling a defender just reaggravated it


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